OK, as I ALWAYS say, if you are EVER compelled to a courtroom then the first thing you do is SECURE COSTS.

You are pleading to your rapist.

Lien the court file.

how

You are in Ontario? http://ppsa.ca

yes... no credit card

Lien the ATTORNEY GENERAL with the court file as the ACCOUNT.

http://www.ppsa.ca/ppsacaV3//registration/index.jsp

It's 2016. My NAME is liened for a quarter of a billion dollars, and I have a credit card! Pre-paid cards are EVERYWHERE

Paypal issues them!

I don't tend to make online purchases

Then walk into a Service Ontario office and pay in cash

that I can do

the attorney general is the business debtor?

Yes.

You do not need to invoice, or default, as the case is before the courts.

and the amount goes under collateral principal amount?

Yes. Lien for whatever amount you see fit, but be prepared to ACCOUNT for it.

I don't know what would be reasonable.. I assume just the $1200 they intend to lean on me would suffice, would it not?

I cannot advise you on that. EVER. I will NEVER tell you a dollar amount. EVER.

would I need a lean greater than the lean they intend to lean on me

I will tell you facts. I will tell you the truth and mechanics of the LEGAL MATRIX, but I will NEVER tell you to accept or how to use a TENDER FOR LAW

I do not give LEGAL ADVICE.

how do I account for a lean amount

What is your time worth and can you prove it?

I say my time is worth $360 per hour, because I've been paid that in the past. I can PROVE my time is worth that.

That's what I means by that.

Find previous evidence of an amout, in cases of police fraud and abuse. Look for cases where punitive awards were made, and cite the case number when asked why that was deemed "reasonable".

I've made $15 hourly... last year on commission, I made $70000 in 6 mos...

I think you want to use that second figure ;)

I went bankrupt after I was charged with obstruct, and am currently on disability

Then you are screwed. You consented to ALL of this when you applied.

Disability=Government..with PROVEN consent.

so because I found out I have degenerative disk disease, and opted to take advantage of second career funding to take culinary management, I can't show the police lied? oh...

Showing your rapist that they are a rapist, doesn't actually do anything.

police police the police, justices cover their asses, and crowns can stay charges against public servants...and I just have to accept it because I thought I was catching a break getting my basic needs and shelter cost covered

You can "show" them... but what do you hope to accomplish?

That is the reality nobody wants to accept.

discrediting the officers

They don't CARE if you can "prove" it. You signed away that recourse in 1982 (or your parents did.)

Have you seen REASONS we need a NATIONAL KICK-A-COP-IN-THE-FACE DAY!? Over ONE MILLION "discredited" (whatever that means) officers, COMPLETELY exposed.

What good does it do?

My whole point here in THE TENDER FOR LAW is to SHOW you that these things are true, and the ONLY answer is to remove them by force.

I also show you how to build your own bank.

holding the officers accountable for their actions, and manipulation of facts, is all I hope to accomplish.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-department-raided-law-enforcement-agencies/

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/18/judge-bias-corrupts-court-cases

Why do you think pleading to your rapist will do that? That's the United States. You are just citing an example of snakes eating their own tails. That SAME FBI that got rid of those cops, has been jailing and executing people based on their imaginary "hair matching science", and they KNEW they were lying. NOBODY IS EVER CALLED TO ACCOUNT. EVER.

https://www.ombudsman.on.ca/Investigations/SORT-Investigations/Completed/Oversight-of-police--Oversight-Undermined.aspx

You get these articles from the very media you KNOW LIES to you.BOTH of those used local news footage. That should alert you right there. WHY are they telling you this?

The fact that you think the Ombudsman has EVER done ANYTHING is just adorable :D

sorry, I can't afford proper advice, and have to resort to groups like this. If you want to insult me, stand before me. Otherwise, I'm done here

They will become more and more blatant over the next year. You can try all you like, but even if you "win", and "expose" them, they will just say "what are yuh gonna do about it" while they pat their guns. It's happening EVERYWHERE.

I'm trying to show that if shit goes far enough, something gets done in relation to the situation it arose from. It doesn't change the system or the way it operates, but I don't intend to quit

this happened in 2012... I was given a conditional discharge for obstruct. The more I dig, the more corruption I have proof of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1xzYC5T4Ro

https://www.change.org/p/3469697/u/10893493?utm_source=petition_update&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=fb_comment&fb_comment_id=856063234487648_856947347732570#f2ccb6a8e3db276

FUN FACT: No "online petition" has EVER been accepted as "valid" by ANY "legal body". This is "busy work" you are "allowed" to do so you will waste a lot of time and resources.

I DO love saying "I told you so". Just letting you know now.

so it seems you're part of the corruption then... congrats on getting a pretty penny for your soul

OK, first, there is no such thing as a "soul". Grow up. Second, I have already said on MANY occasions that I was kicked out of the "club". You are not making any stunning revelations here either. I don't care. A lot. You'd be amazed at how much I don't give a fuck. None of your whining about me changes what I say, or the fact that what I say is true.

And i'm STILL BETTER THAN YOU!

I would like to hear you say that to my face, you arrogant piece of shit.

you can use your artificial revenues to pay for your hospital bills

Yes. Yes I can!

I did last week. In fact, because I actually understand my own body, I can get commercial diagnostic services for a song!

keep boasting keyboard warrior ... you've got a bunch of support

We have one of the BEST health care systems on the planet when you exclude the government. And if "keyboard warrior" is all you think I am, you can leave.

Idiot.

Now he gets nothing. Banned and blocked.

Just wtf..

"I would like to hear you say that to my face, you arrogant piece of shit." :/ So the truth makes you respond with violence Greg Thornton. How does that make you better than the Waterloo Regional Police Service? Would you rather Scott lie to you? Would that make you feel better? By responding to the truth with violence makes me think you got what you deserved. Just saying.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing! :D

So if he has no right to claim value in that case because he recieves disability, would opting out of disability free him to lien the case? It's not like you have to pay back disability you've been awarded.. no promises were made.. right? obviously if he's still in school he's puppy fucked depending on what he wants in life..

Lol! :D Ironic that Greg Thornton threatens violence because of his hurt feelings after being told the truth. "Tell me what I want to hear or I'll kick your face in". This is typically how a Policy Imposing Goon would respond. Funny that :/

Look at those applications. He literally WAIVES THE RIGHT.

One thing people who use government "services" don't seem to grasp, is that the "services" you APPLY to are slipping in a bunch of OTHER clauses you don't notice. HUGE numbers of rights are surrendered. READ a "disability" application one day. Prepare to be creeped out.

Wtf. Why is this fucking guy asking random ass retard questions? Thx for being patient and answering Scott. Because this had been answered only 100 times before. I just know this is going to ruin it for the actual simu drones. One day I'm going to need to ask Scott a real question and pony boy here will have ruined the chance cause he was too lazy too read the group. Everything that was covered here has been done so.

He apparently has mental issues, bi polar he was diagnosed with. That does not excuse the attitude and anger directed at Scott Duncan. This is the first time i have actually commented on any post as i am still reading all the posts and looking up the all CAPS words so i can comprehend the legal meaning of each word. That way when i do have questions to ask i hopefully will not have any of you going '"read the rules of the group", or "go read all Scotts Notes and articles 3 times." I was actually surprised when reading this thread that he lasted so long. I have pissed myself laughing so many times watching people get booted for way less. I think if people actually read this group, especially the gold in the comments, for a minimum of 6weeks before starting a thread or jumping in with their beLIEfs, it would be very beneficial for their longevity as a member. The truth is the truth, and feeling bad or upset because of the way it is delivered, doesn't change the fact that SCOTT IS ALWAYS RIGHT. Too many people are expecting a quick fix with no investment on their own part (time to study and learn). They expect answers to be given to them that they feel good about, and for some reason think those answers will lead them to being able to go to COURT and beat the CHARGE using the club rules of which they are not apart of. What i have seen here is even though Scott can be (IS) very blunt, straight forward and obviously knows a lot more than anyone about the law and the club we are not apart of, if you have taken it upon yourself to at least try, he will assist leading YOU to the answers you need. As long as YOU have no INTENT of harming this group and/or Scott and Tara, and are trying to break your programming and are just STUPID and FRUSTRATING, i have noticed he at least tries to dumb it down to our level. The other thing i have noticed is how the ones who have been members for quite a while and actually have a grasp of all this, are starting to emulate Scott with his attitude towards the newbies ( frustrated, bewildered and have little patients for stupidity). I only stated that last bit about the long term members to validate the point Scott mentions of "you can't unlearn this shit!" I think the long term members are actually doing a great job trying to educate us, and are paying their debt back by at least trying to get as many people as possible (and who are capable of understanding) to be great administrators and/or to LIEN YOUR NAME. So even if you don't see me commenting on things, i would like to let you all know that i am learning and grasping the basics. I appreciate the VALUE of all who contribute to this group and one day hope to be able to pay it back. I will be silent again now and continue to learn and have a good laugh while doing so. Soon i will start posting my questions (for feedback from you all) i intend to send out to the government of Australia about my PERSONS right to security and other issues. After that i will be way more active as i REALLY will need to get assistance in the COMPUTER SCIENCE side of things especially the BLOCKCHAIN courses i could take, and how to make crypto currencies. I fried my brain trying to learn ALL at once. So i decided to get my head around the GOVERNMENT side of things like AGENCY and having a PERSON before attempting to learn the COMPUTER side of things, which i know i will struggle with more than knowing who I am. At least i am in the best place to learn [crossing fingers i don't get banned] Maybe it is a good thing i am silent at the moment as this piece has rambled on a bit. The point i wanted to get across was that the work you all are doing is very much appreciated, and sometimes even the smallest bit of recognition can show you that you aren't wasting your time (VALUE). I want to be able to take what i need and give the rest away, and play a small or big (depending on how fast i can learn) part in the war on WRONG.

Thanks Mark Whellum for saying this out loud. I think you articulated well the sentiments of many of us that are new to TTFL.

Wrong is fighting back, as you can see. I gave the guy as much leeway as I could, because I know his story, but "victim" only carries you so far.