Jul 11, 2015 1:28 PM

Yes, having a mortgage is where you PROMISE TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES, and gives municipalities authority.

RENTING actually gives you more rights, ironically.

Hmmm...Now I'm wondering, if someone buys a property cash and does not obtain a mortgage does this mean that the municipality has no authority and property taxes can't be assessed and/or do not need to be paid?

That is correct David-Paul

If there is NO DEBT on the property, GET THE LAND PATENT!

:o Really? WTF! And yet folks that "own" the property free and clear continue to pay property taxes. My parents in-law are just one example. Another example of why the "majority is always wrong"?

Get the land patent? WHO has it?

Don't you just love how Admiral Scott is able to MIND FUCK us with the truth lol! :/

"A land patent is an exclusive land grant made by a sovereign entity with respect to a particular tract of land. To make such a grant �patent�, a sovereign (proprietary landowner) must document the land grant, securely sign and seal the document (patent), and openly publish the documents for the public to see. An official land patent is the highest evidence of right, title, and interest to a defined area. It is usually granted by a central, federal, or state government to an individual or to a private company. "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_patent

Ha ha ha ha! :D NUGGET ALERT! Oh fuck the gears are turning now.

"It is usually granted by a central, federal, or state government to an individual or to a private company." Does this answer your question Chris?

Kind of. It means there are lots of questions to ask folks when the time comes

I'm thinking it must be granted by the Province/State as any county, region, municipality derives it's authority from the Acts/Statutes that govern them. Am I on the right track?

It's granted by a sovereign entity. :/

From what I can tell so far here in the states it's the Bureau of Land Management that handles them. I'm going to keep looking into this. It's definitely something I want to do.

Eli, where you live, yes. It's the BLM for sure. Here, it's s little grey...I can't tell if it has to do with the former Virginia Company administrated by Washington DC or if it's something to do with Massachusetts. I looked into this before Scott.

Slaveachussets strikes again. Why don't you get the hell out of there man?

I'm working on it. But this point has something to do with the original 13 colonies. I just never found out what. :/

I think it was also the legal reason for the Civil War.

You know 'Massachuseets' is actually spelled, Massachusetts, right?

I'm not familiar with all your American wildlife. Could Massachuseets actually be a small woodland creature? If so, I withdraw my rebuke.

Typonese...my apologies.

It's a state is it not, Chres? Your apology is granted :D

Yes it is.

That was for Chres. Totally different person, if you get my drift :D

I see what you did there :P

I am fairly fluent in typonese, so yes, I got it!

I almost never make typos. I have a spell-checker.

http://www.davidpbrown.co.uk/poetry/martha-snow.html

Yes, that's the one!

...just read that. Too funny!

Don't try this at home. There can be no NOTICE OF MISS STEAK!

MISS STEAK! :D

I'm surprised they didn't use that.

So, let's say I buy a piece of land for cash. The first thing to do after that transaction is get the land patent. Interesting. :D

It IS interesting. It's also true, and discouraged for obvious reasons.

The U.S. deposited all these land patents into the Treasury who spun off a sub entity called the Bureau of Land Management. Sounds like I should do the same thing. :D

THIS >>> "It is usually granted by a central, federal, or state government to an individual or to a private company"...bothers me. I smell an application here. If it is discouraged and the state no longer follows it's own rules then I have to wonder if there is a better approach that doesn't involve plreading to your rapist? :/

It's a CLAIM. You have to prove it.

THEY are the lawful holder in due course. YOU are the one who is ENTITLED to it.

Would you resurvey the land in question and use that survey slip along with the Certificate of Title as the foundation of the claim?

I claim that there is no mortgage on the property and I have <insert evidence here, most likely Exhibits, including, but not limited to public notice, bill of sale, a paid off mortgage, etc.> to support my claim. No one has an interest in this property, therefore, I wish to receive the Land Patent that you seem to be holding.

Lol! "If it's hard you're doing it wrong" :)