Other than my signature, what could LEGALLY bind "me" as being surety for anything ?
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Anibal Jose Baez
Your actions.
Pete Daoust
Like what ? :-\
Age Thomson
a handshake perhaps?
Age Thomson
or an oath?
Pete Daoust
I said LEGALLY bind...
Anibal Jose Baez
Ohhh! Then, the answer is the use and/or possesion of Legal Tender! :D
Age Thomson
a reciept perhaps
Anibal Jose Baez
LEGAL=MONEY=SURETY & ACCOUNTING
Age Thomson
For there to be surety, there would have to be some sort of contract wouldn't there? And a contract needs an acceptance....
Anibal Jose Baez
I learned this from a "mentally ill computer operator" in the Internet. Go figure.
Anibal Jose Baez
Yes, Adrian Thomson, the acceptance is the use and/or possession of Legal Tender. If you use it and/or have it in your possession, you are BOUND.
Age Thomson
But it is not restricted to ONLY legal tender
Anibal Jose Baez
What do you mean, Adrian?
Age Thomson
Any valid contract is legally binding. If the transaction does not involve legal tender, the injured parties simply substitute a legal tender amount when they take it to the courts. So, in that way, a contract that is accepted by a handshake or an oath for example is then legally binding.
Pete Daoust
Anibal Jose Baez, would it be fair to say PRESUMED instead of BOUND ?
Age Thomson
Am I way off on this?
Anibal Jose Baez
I was just going to say that, Pete Daoust. It could be a presumption, and/or a mistake that needs correction.
Age Thomson
3. The words to bind or binding, are also used to signify that a thing is subject to an obligation, engagement or liability; as, the judgment binds such an estate. Vide Lien.
Anibal Jose Baez
I think I did not understand your question Adrian. Sorry. If you could elaborate, I would appreciate that.
Having the Law of Agency in mind, I think if you use and/or posses Legal Tender, you are accepting an unconditional offer to contract. The use of it, for nobody is forcing you to use it, is acceptance to the terms, and conditions attached.
Harry Wombat
I remember Scott mentioned that if you sit down and play chess you can't claim you want to quit the game later on and expect not to lose. This reminds me of ChiefRock who says that joinder can also be created through our actions.
Great question Pete!
Anibal Jose Baez
<< I remember Scott mentioned that if you sit down and play chess you can't claim you want to quit the game later on and expect not to lose. >>
Ehh, no. I have never read/heard Scott say that Harry Wombat. :/ I think you are misquoting.
Harry Wombat
I didn't quote and yes I could be wrong. :/
Pete Daoust
Legally binding "me" as being surety.....think about it...
Age Thomson
From my contract law textbook....
"Acceptance is the offeree's manifestation of assent to the offer. It is the event that brings the contract into existance because the offer necessarily contemplates that the parties will become bound immediately upon the offeree's exercise of the power of acceptance."
Anibal Jose Baez
Harry Wombat, here you go: <<Think very carefully about this. If you are a novice at chess, and did not know about castling
and its rules, you might raise the obvious question, �Why do you get to move two pieces?� If I refuse to explain that rule to you, and even deny you the chance to present your understanding of the rules, would you continue playing chess with me?
If you attempt to stop the game for this reason, that's when you're going to �understand� that this was a chess game for money; and that I have big, burly thugs to enforce this game. You claimed to know the rules for the engagement, even if you later disclaimed being an expert.
Novice drivers and expert drivers all have to follow the same rules. You don't get to ignore rules because you suck at them. Just as my chess board is not a chess school, the court will not allow the presumption that you being a novice is a lawful excuse. The only method to extract yourself �with honour� is to accept responsibility for the mistake in presumption. They are presuming something wrong...and you are acknowledging it's your fault. The court must accept this MISTAKE, and your entreaty for forgiveness for the unintended debt created. The court MUST do this. - Scott Duncan>>
Pete Daoust
I think no one can AFFIRM that I am surety without my signature, but how can I be sure at 100% ?
Anibal Jose Baez
Ehh... a gun?
Pete Daoust
:-D
Harry Wombat
Trafficking in anything?
Anibal Jose Baez
Adrian Thomson. If it is not simple, you are doing doing it wrong. For the purpose of the question asked by Captain Pete:
LEGAL=MONEY=SURETY & ACCOUNTING. End of story.
Harry Wombat
A blockchain?
Anibal Jose Baez
A "blockchain"? What are you talking about, Harry Wombat? :/
Harry Wombat
I imagine that one day, perhaps today even, we will all be able to contract and to be surety if we want and and we'll be able to do that via a blockchain. The fact we have contracted to be surety can be confirmed 100% in a blockchain electronically and by way of computer science which is the answer to everything.
Harry Wombat
There is likely a "digital signature" involved though. Hmmm
Harry Wombat
Responding to the name in your pocket. :)
Scott Duncan
it's not a misquote. it's in Joinder For Idiots.
Scott Duncan
The Original Post is a redundant question. Joinder is PRESUMED the second there is A RESPONSE, legally.
Every time you go to a merchant, and purchase something there is joinder; Most do not involve a signature.
Sino General
Carrying... using... conducting yourself in a manner that shows your in a contract with Canada .. use of their property and benefitting from it.
Maximus Legis
Your mouth or your silence.
Scott Duncan
Notice that the core of what I teach REMOVES PRESUMPTION.
Damaging the security of the Birth Certificate removes that presumption PERMANENTLY. That's why that "Dan Wilson" twit is so desperate to stop you from doing it.
If you are worried about your "credit" because your name is secured, then you are too stupid to be securing your name.
Scott Duncan
Putting it simply: If you are on one of MY vessels, where I have SUPREME authority... make no mistake; There's fucking joinder.
My "enforcers" are trained to kill or maim, not babysit assholes in the brig, so chances are joinder won't be foremost on one's mind, in that circumstance.
Pete Daoust
I am not worried AT ALL about this credit rating thing :D
I am just reading and re-reading and re-re-reading everything, I am almost at the "blowing a fucking fuse" stage :D
Pete Daoust
Another thing.....on the ppsa website, when you choose Ontario, you guys have this section you can fill.
Pete Daoust
This section has been removed for the Quebec tab.
It's like we, in Quebec, can ONLY register lien on cars... :/
Go check it out !!
Scott Duncan
ACCOUNTS! It's a FUCKING SECURITY!
It's all surety an ACCOUNTING!
ACCOUNTS!
Scott Duncan
Joelle Spirit, you should know that to ONLY time it's safe for a woman to open her mouth around here is:
1: If you KNOW you are right.
2: If you are on your knees in front of me.
:P
Pete Daoust
Click in Quebec instead of Ontario. You'll see what I mean.
Scott Duncan
So Quebec has no ACCOUNTS?
Scott Duncan
OH! Well THAT'S easy!
ANY AND ALL PUBLIC DOCUMENTS BEARING AND/OR CONTAINING ANY AND/OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING:
***Insert ALL Birth Certificate information here***
INCLUDING the public security commonly KNOWN AS the "BIRTH CERTIFICATE".
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