Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 6:39 PM
Collection Agency? Do you have a contract with this agency?


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 6:46 PM
LAVG* This is the collecting agency - and nope they just bought the debt from the gov/health insurance company (anderzorg) who have been having a rough time charging a bank account that's empty ... oops


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 6:47 PM
So why is it going to court? They just don't have jurisdiction.


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T?lis B?auns

Nov 24, 2014 8:22 PM
Chris Have you signed any legal documents you may have received, in this matter, have you filed any documents with the court,? What jurisdictions are chris ping and CHRIS PING in, in THIS matter?


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Isaiah Whitney

Nov 24, 2014 8:36 PM
So the collection agency is taking you to court? If so ask to see the contract because you don't know who they are or remember any business/contact with them that would substantiate such a claim. Collection agencies are really easy to shut down.


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 8:45 PM
They came to collect - i wasn't at home - the second time they summoned me to court to try get some money ... Holland is fast?


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Isaiah Whitney

Nov 24, 2014 8:48 PM
You don't have a contract with these clowns so you don't owe shit.


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 8:55 PM
If the debt collectors invited me, should charge them? for court time? or would i have to warn them ahead of time to do that! Thanks guys i think it's a pretty simple case


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Isaiah Whitney

Nov 24, 2014 8:56 PM
They're hoping you don't show so they get a default judgement. Basically one just needs to demand they prove it. I would go in and say hey I'm willing to pay just please show me the contract first because I don't know you or recall any business with you.


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Isaiah Whitney

Nov 24, 2014 8:57 PM
I wouldn't bother with billing them at this point. This will be the end of it when you demand proof.


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 9:00 PM
Yeah you're right ... i think i'll wear my tracksuit ... just pop in with a coffee! haha - i hope this gets them off my back - first time in court - it's good for my study ;)


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:05 PM
OK, Quick tips. I bounced this one off The Fender, because he sees the whole Legal Matrix at a detailed level I dread having. 1: You have no contract with a COLLECTION AGENCY. The Collection AGENCY, IS the AGENT for that DEBT, though. IT'S THEIR RIGHT. 2: DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE DEBT, THIS ALLOWS THEM TO CLAIM THEIR RIGHTS (which is why you reserve ALL rights in any communication), and you walk in LOSING. Pete Daoust always says he has a PERSON in his pocket, but what KIND of "Person"? There are MANY kinds of PERSONS! Pete Daoust would be better saying "I HAVE A LEGAL ENTITY in my pocket"! ...an entity for which HE is not the principal. The TRUSTEE on your Birth Certificate is the principal. In MY case, it would be the GOVERNMENT OF ONTARIO, which is an AGENT for the GOVERNMENT OF CANADA. Pete Daoust has a LEGAL ENTITY (Fiction) in his pocket. He is the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for that LEGAL ENTITY. When he SIGNS, he is BINDING THE PRINCIPAL, who is THE GOVERNMENT OF QUEBEC, an AGENT of the GOVERNMENT OF CANADA. None of you got my AGENCY article, did you?


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T?lis B?auns

Nov 24, 2014 9:05 PM
Chris Ping have you signed ANYTHING , in this matter??? Has JOINDER ocurred?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:06 PM
https://www.facebook.com/notes/scott-duncan/the-tender-for-law-agency-artificial-persons-for-idiots-draft-c-2014-roguesuppor/986073134792492


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:07 PM
This is why it's still in "Draft" state; I'm pretty sure most of you missed the point.


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:08 PM
DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE DEBT!


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:09 PM
They:"Did you sign a contract with Government Hydro"? We: "None of your fucking business".


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:14 PM
T?lis B?auns: Joinder did NOT occur with the Collection AGENCY. No joinder is required. If you acknowledge ANY debt, it's their RIGHT. Joinder is NOT an issue.


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 9:16 PM
Debt who! so if they ask - are you aware of how much debt you are in? I say - 1. nothing? or 2. no or 3. i have no idea what you're talking about. 4. none of your fucking business


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:17 PM
If you have no contract with them, the ONLY answer is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Why are you so nice to these people?


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 9:21 PM
that's why i want to learn how to invoice them for my time - it would be a fair educational exchange - or maybe because im' british?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:26 PM
The same way you invoice anyone else. Send them an invoice. (Duh!) ...but that puts you in THEIR jurisdiction. If you don't want to take the time to do the Administrator's job, pass it to the Principal. Inform the court that you must notify the principal that they have been charged :D


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:31 PM
...and tell them Scott Duncan says hi. :D


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 9:32 PM
That sounds nice of me - so while i'm in court i ask them to inform the third party of the charges? do i need to print something and just tell them! sounds too easy ...


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:33 PM
Your questions reveal that you missed my point.


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:33 PM
You didn't answer the question: WHY IS THIS IN COURT?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:35 PM
Everyone using the Lou Manotti account has heard me say this: FOCUS ON THE MECHANISM, NOT THE DATA!


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 9:36 PM
He's in court because he haven't administrate the shit, so a STRANGER took on the administration for him, since he dosen't take care of stuff.... :P


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 9:37 PM
What Pete said ....


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 9:37 PM
actually i tried but they ignored my letter


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 9:38 PM
Have you asked for an INVOICE ?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:38 PM
Ask what evidence they have that you have surety in this matter?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:39 PM
...since it's all accounting and surety?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:39 PM
...just a thought?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:39 PM
...hellos?


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 9:39 PM
:D


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 9:41 PM
The letter asked for how to discharge the debt?! but i didn't ask for invoice ...


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 9:43 PM
Have you bought something from them ?, a product, and/or a service ? :/


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 9:44 PM
health insurance is an obligation - the 3rd party bought the debt - i asked them how to discharge and who is surety ... dutch people maybe didn't get it


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 9:46 PM
health insurance is an obligation....that's funny !!! :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 9:47 PM
Tell them Jesus is taking care of your health :D


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 9:47 PM
I'm a health coach! thats funny too ;) i dont' want fucking 20% of drugs - i don't do drugs


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 9:48 PM
that would be Vitamin D then ... Yes Jesus the SON


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 9:48 PM
SIGNED Invoice.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 9:52 PM
They can't even produce an invoice, forget about a signed one :D


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 9:56 PM
sounds like several things i can ask for and they can't give it. contract invoice signature a victim? none of the above can be produced ... then they'll say get outta here ?


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 9:58 PM
No, they will say GET IN THERE...


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 9:59 PM
:D


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Chris Evan

Nov 24, 2014 10:03 PM
A victim?


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 10:07 PM
apparently there needs to be a victim if you are going to court! through which they'll probably try to say - the state, or something


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:09 PM
Chris Ping, are you a Piece-of-Shit Christian? You do know that we purge those on sight, right?


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 10:11 PM
hahaha no problems there then ... i'm a scientist/administrator


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:24 PM
...just checking. Piece-of-Shit Christians lurk here all the time, because deep inside they know that they are just delusional adults with imaginary friends. They hang out here (the only source of ACTUAL truth) because they discovered a LONG time ago, that their imaginary friend can't actually TEACH them anything, and that Jesus gets the credit if anything NEW seeps in. ...so they lurk here, and look for truth that doesn't upset their imaginary friend, all the while thinking "That Scott Duncan is gonna burn in hell! Truth is blasphemy so he will suffer, and I will take his truth and credit jesus"! (Yes, they REALLY THINK this way!) That is why I endorse violence against adults with imaginary friends; They exist to harm others.


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:26 PM
ANY PIECE OF SHIT CHRISTIANS HAVE THE BALLS TO SPEAK UP? No? I know you are here!


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 10:27 PM
sounds like there some christians you like - the - non piece of shit ones? hahaha ;) i'm joking of course - i like this room - i studied physics and found out even that is a piece of shit - i like Eric Dollard and sometimes Santos Bonacci ... he makes sense to me


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:30 PM
It boils down to simple numbers! Think about it! If a Piece-of-Shit Christian thinks he's going to be dragged out the back and have every bone in his body broken, every time he/she/it tries to teach bullshit to your children and call it "science", they will think twice about imposing Piece-of-Shit Christian "values" on others!


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 10:31 PM
So why you don't ask Santos, about your fuck up ? :/


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 10:32 PM
this room has more swear words


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:32 PM
" Santos Bonacci"? The "Astrotheology" guy? You call yourself a scientist? You'd best put quotes around that word, lest you piss off the ACTUAL scientists that lurk here.


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Chris Ping

Nov 24, 2014 10:34 PM
i wouldn't call myself one of those either ... haha. Those loosers can't even explain what gravity is - real scientists like eric Dollard i like


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:36 PM
In that case you have no idea what science is. Go hang out with the pretend scientists then.


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:36 PM
Pete Daoust, please escort this "scientist" from the group. :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 10:37 PM
Escorted :D


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:37 PM
Thank you. :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 10:38 PM
You're more than welcome :P


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:39 PM
ANYONE ELSE WANT TO TELL ME THAT ACTUAL SCIENTISTS ARE "LOOSERS"? (Seriously? The illiterate calling scientists LOSERS, and spelling it "LOOSERS" has what I call "annoying irony".)


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:40 PM
...anyone? ...no?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:41 PM
What about Piece-of-Shit Christians, then? You don't want to explain why jesus won't heal amputees?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:43 PM
Why is Rape and Slavery endorsed by Jesus, but "graven images" is REALLY BAD?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:45 PM
You people come here for TRUTH and KNOWLEDGE! WHY DO YOU ALL INSIST ON MIXING IT WITH BULLSHIT?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:45 PM
WHY DO YOU PEOPLE LOVE YOUR BULLSHIT SO MUCH?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:48 PM
SERIOUSLY! Help me understand. What do you GET out of it? Do people pay you through banking channels that someone of my stature does not have access to? Is it blackmail? Is someone forcing you to love bullshit? WHAT DO YOU GET OUT OF LOVING BULLSHIT?


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 10:50 PM
Speaking of BULLSHIT, this tard wants me to be surety because his mom and dad spewed bullshit on his brain. And all the tards in Quebec thinks he is right :/ I am fucking fed up :( http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/yohanan-lowen-former-hasidic-jew-suing-government-recounts-painful-childhood-1.2844962


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:51 PM
Anyone?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:52 PM
I will defer to the expertise a Piece-of-Shit Christian has, as regards bullshit;for obvious reasons. :D


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:55 PM
Why is it that you people will happily belch bullshit as fact, at exactly the wrong time, but you won't do it WHEN I FUCKING ASK?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 10:56 PM
PLEASE LURKING PIECE-OF-SHIT CHRISTIANS! TELL ME WHY YOU LOVE BULLSHIT SO MUCH! TELL ME!


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Steph Boucher

Nov 24, 2014 11:07 PM
He said the S word ;( Or he pulled a Santos


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 11:08 PM
Scott?


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Steph Boucher

Nov 24, 2014 11:11 PM
That is 2 lives ago on a post higher. Do you mind if I just don't speak instead.


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Scott Duncan

Nov 24, 2014 11:12 PM
I'm still no closer to finding out why you people LOVE bullshit so much. :(


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 11:18 PM
Ok, let me explain Scott Duncan.... THEY ARE FUCKING SCARE TO DEATH !!!! :D They need something to SECURE them, because it's fucking SCARY out there.........


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 11:20 PM
Try to visualize a bunch of kids, running around, and not knowing what's going on, and being aggressed by some crazy psychopath :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 11:23 PM
When they get a short moment of calm, they fucking get on their knees and PRAY as hard as they can, so that short moment last longer......


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Pete Daoust

Nov 24, 2014 11:24 PM
Just in case a God of some sort would listen to them, and make this calm appear in their life, a little longer....


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Gerry Odonothing

Nov 24, 2014 11:27 PM
Dear Holy fucking God please come and save me from this crazy psychopath... and they all died beside the cycle path.


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Scott Duncan

Nov 25, 2014 1:10 AM
Pete Daoust... that was profound.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 25, 2014 1:11 AM
Yes.


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Scott Duncan

Nov 25, 2014 1:18 AM
That's only cute when I do it :P


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Pete Daoust

Nov 25, 2014 1:21 AM
Yes.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 25, 2014 1:21 AM
:D


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Scott Duncan

Nov 25, 2014 1:22 AM
...um. ...`K, nevermind :/


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Pete Daoust

Nov 25, 2014 1:24 AM
Oh please, no woman bullshit, come on, shoot :P


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Steph Boucher

Nov 25, 2014 1:31 AM
Lol


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Sino General

Nov 25, 2014 2:01 AM
Dude ...you should just stay out of court all together ... you don't like your even ready at all ...you might just make more case law to be used against others who actually know how to work the court room. Practise with friends and role play b4 any real life stuff man ...geesh


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Nov 25, 2014 2:48 AM
He already got banned. Read the thread. I have a FAR lower stupidity tolerance than you, Sino! :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 25, 2014 2:49 AM
Oh yes. :D


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Scott Duncan

Nov 25, 2014 2:52 AM
ChiefRock Sino General possesses mental powers that I don't. He's almost completely immune to `Tard.


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Sino General

Nov 25, 2014 2:56 AM
Yeah I'm tard proof ... I just hate guys like that .. ugh so annoying ...going to go to court and don't know shit like wtf ....


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Scott Duncan

Nov 25, 2014 2:59 AM
He should buy Clifford, The Free-Dumb Teddy-Bear, and take it to court with him :D


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Sino General

Nov 25, 2014 3:02 AM
Omg yeah . Yeh bear totally makes the win ... almost forgot


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Scott Duncan

Nov 25, 2014 3:04 AM
The classics. I slay me :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 25, 2014 3:08 AM
Going to court :D https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=542932915824796&set=vb.416333425151413&type=2&theater


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