The Tender For Law

Volume 8

Nov 19, 2014 12:08 PM

Pete Daoust

The " Rick Hiltz no one knows WHY he deleted that precious thread" thread :/

Rick Hiltz 5 hrs today the lovely folks at Revenue Canada sent along an invoice to the estate of my recently deceased father for the amount of $102.25 for 2 checks issued under the Ontario Trilium Benefit program . I am currently in possession of both checks . I have had conversations where i was told i would be issued an invoice if i did not return the checks . ME will you be requiring the return of the checks You sent to my deceased dad Fucktard: yes please return them ASAP or you will be invoiced for the amount issued Me; Why would you invoice the estate for something they never exchanged for legal tender?Do you have any reason to believe that your books do not balance? Fucktard it doesn`t matter you need to return the checks Me ok are you going to forward me the postage and pay the invoice for my time and effort to perform for revenue Canada Fucktard No if you don`t return them you will be billed for them ME how can you bill me for something still in revenue Canada`s possession the money is still in your possession the checks have not been cashed and since you refuse to pay for my services then the checks shall remain here in such times as a Revenue Canada employee shows up at the door showing valid ID and picks them up and issues a receipt for doing so Fucktard that will not happen Me ok so I will just shred them i don`t give a fuck about your books balancing have a nice day LikeLike � Aladdin Sane and 2 others like this.

Pete Daoust You think WRONG 4 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust They are doing with you, the EXACT same thing I am doing with them....

These BILLS OF EXCHANGE you have in your possession, is the actual VALUE, this is CASH......and you HOLDING this CASH and you have no rights to do so.......See More 4 hrs � Like � 2

Pete Daoust Fuck....you have the PROOF, and you don't even notice it 4 hrs � Like � 1

Pete Daoust Chris Evan, Gail Marie, look at this 4 hrs � Like � 1

Pete Daoust Rick Hiltz, tell me you have this recorded, and/or in writing !! 4 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust Beverly Berta Braakschmack, do you see it ? 3 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust For FUCK SAKES !!!....where's everyone ? 3 hrs � Like � 1

Chris Evan I see it 3 hrs � Like � 2

Aladdin Sane I see it too! 3 hrs � Like � 2

Rick Hiltz yes i have the money according to the financial administration Act Pete a check is money. But unless the check is endorsed its just a pc of paper the physical money is still on their books until it gets cashed . Their books have showed they paid it out in order for their books to balance they need the check returned even though its never been cashed . they need it yet I don`t work for free go to gov`t and try to get them to do something for you and it usually ends up costing you money they don`t want to pay me for returning them so they can pick it up. 3 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust Ok, I don<t give a fuck about your tantrum, I just want to know if you have this shit in WRITING, and#or recorded 3 hrs � Like

Rick Hiltz its recorded some where in my vault i never talk to them unless it is 3 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust Ok, can you share ? 3 hrs � Like

Rick Hiltz fuck now i have to search will try to find it 3 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust Every time I receive a call from them, I listen to the audio at least 20 times.....in fact, I am shocked sometimes, on one word they might have used....I thought everyone were doing that :# 3 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust Here<s an example...

I spent 18 minutes with a tard from the city of Montreal, trying to get this bill of exchange back......fo about 10 times during the conversation, he repeated @ WE HAVE TO SAVE EVERYTHING YOU'VE SENT TO US......at least 10 times h...See More 3 hrs � Like � 1

Pete Daoust SUSPEND THE FUCKING RUNNING OR OPERATION OF 2 hrs � Edited � Like

Rick Hiltz going to take a while to sort thru the folder and find I`ll post it when i find it Pete 3 hrs � Like � 1

Pete Daoust Do you get it, Rick ...you are SUSPENDING THE FUCKING RUNNING OR OPERATION OF THIS THING, and you<ll get INVOICED by doing so

In other words, the City of Montreal are waiting for the invoice 2 hrs � Like � 3

Pete Daoust They rather get INVOICED, than to RUN this bill of exchange 2 hrs � Like � 1

Pete Daoust Right, Scott Duncan 2 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust TRUST me, but verify with Scott 2 hrs � Like � 1

Aladdin Sane Are you an executor of the estate, Rick? 2 hrs � Like

Aladdin Sane You can have fun with them, but if you are executor, you have duties. 2 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust No, tell them...

I<ll rather SUSPEND THE FUCKING RUNNING OR OPERATION OF this BILL OF EXCHANGE, and get invoiced.... 2 hrs � Like � 1

Aladdin Sane I like what Scott said a while back. "I'm sorry, I'm not authorized to answer any questions." I can't wait to use this. 2 hrs � Like � 2

Pete Daoust And follow with...

I<ll do the same to you, when you<ll choose to SUSPEND THE FUCKING RUNNING OR OPERATION OF those bills of exchange I send you ...See More 2 hrs � Like � 2

Pete Daoust This thread is AWESOME 2 hrs � Like � 2

Pete Daoust In French, it<s fucking SEXY

De suspendre le cours OU LE FONCTIONNEMENT DE CETTE LETTRE DE CHANGE ...See More 2 hrs � Like � 1

Pete Daoust Dear Fucktard,

Since you have chosen to SUSPEND THE FUCKING RUNNING OR OPERATION OF this bill of exchange, here<s the INVOICE 2 hrs � Like � 2

Pete Daoust Needs to give NOTICE first, I guess, and penalty and administration fees, I guess :# 2 hrs � Like � 1

Pete Daoust Holy mother of Jesus Christ crying out loud !!!!! 2 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust Hellos !!! 2 hrs � Like � 1

Pete Daoust Fuck me, thanks for this thread, Rick Hiltz 2 hrs � Like � 3

Pete Daoust Shit, I have 32k of invoice to send 2 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust wait....35k 2 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust plus fees and penalties, I have no idea how much these two things could be 2 hrs � Like

Aladdin Sane The most detailed part of the invoice should be the penalties and fees section. 2 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust Eamonn O Brien, Mackximus Minimus, Maximus Legis.....check this out 2 hrs � Like � 1

Aladdin Sane That's where you can cash in big time. Or, I should have said, coin in big time. You are busy and this is costing you time. How much is yours worth for frivolous matters? 2 hrs � Like � 1

Pete Daoust Rick Hiltz, I hope you are not going against any oaths by revealing this kind of shit 2 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust I don<t know Aladdin Sane, that part is complete mystery to me 2 hrs � Like

Rick Hiltz i don`t take oaths and any duties i have are to my dad not Gov`t 2 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust Anyway, 2 hrs � Like

Pete Daoust This is priceless, I am going to pee in the fucking corner 2 hrs � Like � 1

Pete Daoust Question Rick Hiltz, is it an obligation to PAY the debt before doing this, or I can invoice before the debt is paid ? 2 hrs � Like

Rick Hiltz if they want the checks back then all they have to do is pay me for time materials gas wear and tear on the vehicle and services rendered as the executor of his estate i can charge an administration fee to the estate so if the gov`t wants me to assist them then they pay me for it i return the checks ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so far they say no not going to happen ..............I say ok no problem your checks will be here waiting ........then he tells me they will bill me for the checks that have not been cashed .............so I`m saying the debt doe not exist period and they need to come and get their property before its considered abandoned 1 hr � Like

Rick Hiltz and any amount they bill me i will bill them the same for storage 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust !!! ...you are worse than them 1 hr � Like � 1

Rick Hiltz Pete i tell them u[p front I`m a fucking asshole so they know 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust Yes, and you will have to GIVE these thing back, or PAY for them 1 hr � Like

Rick Hiltz itrs just a number on a page thats all Pete and they want it lets see if they want to charge interest first 1 hr � Edited � Like

Pete Daoust But please keep precious care of the audio, and/or all communication you have on this matter, I will NEED it, so I can do the exact same thing to them, that they will do to you !! 1 hr � Like � 1

Pete Daoust Thanks Rick Hiltz for dancing for little pPete 1 hr � Like

Rick Hiltz will do i need to do a better job labeling these recordings 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust Will Bed, keep this in file somewhere

"De suspendre le cours OU LE FONCTIONNEMENT DE CETTE LETTRE DE CHANGE" 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust This NOTICE will be so short and sweet, unbelievable !! 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust Oh, they might LIEN some shit, that could be fun.... 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust Tell them that you have to SAVE everything they send you 1 hr � Like � 1

Pete Daoust In French Will Bed, it's:

Nous devons CONSERVER tout ce que vous nous envoyez 1 hr � Like � 1

Pete Daoust CONSERVER 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust suspendre le cours OU LE FONCTIONNEMENT DE 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust SACRAMENT !!!! 1 hr � Like � 2

Rick Hiltz what can they lein for a hundred bucks the toilet 1 hr � Like � 2

Pete Daoust They'll find something, no worry 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust They don't give a shit about this part, Will Bed, they can COUNT on YOU, for surety 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust There's 35 millions "surety" out there to COUNT on 1 hr � Like

Rick Hiltz when they show up to take the property they leined i just hand them the checks 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust Well, it won't be the same amount then, Rick Hiltz 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust You think WRONG 1 hr � Like

Rick Hiltz no physical cash has changed hands Pete they still have all the money in their accounts it only looks like its been paid out on paper ......the actual money is still in their account waiting to be reassigned from debit to a credit 1 hr � Like

Chris Evan Pete...please refresh my memory. Was $35k the amount they have that you sent them back in 2012? 1 hr � Like

Will Bed A cheque Ais a bill of exchange Rick Hiltz, it IS money. 1 hr � Like

Rick Hiltz its only money after it has been endorsed the individual it was made out to is deceased 1 hr � Like

Rick Hiltz so they are offering it as having value and the other party has not signed accepting it as having value 1 hr � Like

Will Bed Last week I think, I posted somewhere here that a cheque is just a promise to pay, if you lose it or burn it, no money is lost... So it's NOT cash... WRONG. Let me track down what Scott Duncan said... 1 hr � Like

Rick Hiltz there is case law that has been ruled on where if a bill of exchange or promissory note has been destroyed in a fire the courts will alow the bank/institution to create another one 1 hr � Like

Rick Hiltz this party doesn`t see it as having any value unless he gets paid to return it 1 hr � Like

Pete Daoust Same with these bills of exchange they are saving, they have value for me, not them, that's the effect SAVING them does.... 1 hr � Like � 1

Pete Daoust Ok, you fucking miss the point, Rick Hiltz....so fuck off, I am out... 1 hr � Like � 1

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Eamonn O Brien

(I re-typed the original post's conversation with revenue. I was a bit hard to follow originally if any admin wants to edit the op and insert the following...)

The "Rick Hiltz no one knows WHY he deleted that precious thread" thread...

Rick Hiltz : Today the lovely folks at Revenue Canada sent along an invoice to the estate of my recently deceased father for the amount of $102.25 for 2 checks issued under the Ontario Trilium Benefit program . I am currently in possession of both checks . I have had conversations where i was told i would be issued an invoice if i did not return the checks...

*CONVERSATION WITH REVENUE*

Rick : "Will you be requiring the return of the checks you sent to my deceased dad?"

Revenue : "Yes. Please return them ASAP or you will be invoiced for the amount issued"

Rick : "Why would you invoice the estate for something they never exchanged for legal tender? Do you have any reason to believe that your books do not balance?"

Revenue: "It doesn`t matter you need to return the checks"

Rick: "Ok are you going to forward me the postage and pay the invoice for my time and effort to perform for revenue Canada?"

Revenue: "No if you don`t return them you will be billed for them"

Rick : "How can you bill me for something still in revenue Canada`s possession? The money is still in your possession, the checks have not been cashed and since you refuse to pay for my services then the checks shall remain here in such times as a Revenue Canada employee shows up at the door showing valid ID and picks them up and issues a receipt for doing so."

Revenue : "That will not happen"

Rick : "Ok so I will just shred them. I don`t give a fuck about your books balancing, have a nice day" *END CONVERSATION*

Beverly Berta Braakschmack

If they created the "money", it should be returned to them. Cheques are SECURITIES which is also why they don't return them to you when you create them. They are the BANKS SECURITIES. Remember, LEGAL TENDER has duties and obligations attached to it by you HOLDING it.

Rick, send it back, duh.

Harry Wombat

Banks used to send my cheques back to me. They were part of a monthly statement/accounting service.

My credit union sent them back as well. They did so until I realized I was paying fees for that service and cancelled it.

If I remember correctly, there were holes punched in them (or was I dreaming) and of course they had stamps from different companies on the private side.