CPA is the closest you have there. There ARE Chartered Accountants, but they work almost exclusively for banks or government. That's what the GAO is for, and it's FULL of CA's.

The man always has an answer.

magical too....

It's like he's telling it as it is because that is exactly what it is.

Not that I'd know, don't get me wrong. I'll just carry on reading and learning now as I don't want to spoil what looks like the beginnings of a decent thread.

Holy shit!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comptroller_General_of_the_United_States Paragraph 2 here claims that this guy who heads the GAO won't sign the governments books!

The thing has refused since 1996? "For every fiscal year since 1996, when consolidated financial statements began, the Comptroller General has refused to endorse the accuracy of the consolidated figures for the federal budget, citing "(1) serious financial management problems at the Department of Defense, (2) the federal government�s inability to adequately account for and reconcile intragovernmental activity and balances between federal agencies, and (3) the federal government�s ineffective process for preparing the consolidated financial statements."[5]" Wiki.

If it's all about surety and accounting and the accounting can't be endorsed then where does that leave the surety?

Citizens, of course!

hmmm...so after looking at the function of the GAO within the government, I see the mechanism employed. Scott, so are you suggesting that in the States, if we can't find a CA who is doing contract work to use a CPA? It's been my experience that the PUBLIC side of accounting brainwashes them... :-/

It does. You are fucked in the US. You're in receivership, remember?

yes....does that mean I can't create my own ball to play with? :-/

SORT of.

It's not your money, remember?

yes.....

Ok...lets say I make my own ball to play with, but their field is shitty...so I offer up front security to cover the maintenance of the field I want to play on. Would that not work? :-/

No.

IT'S

NOT

YOUR

MONEY

How many times must I say it?

Now I am back at confused....what is the purpose of starting a bank, claiming the value I've added to the person, depositing bills, notes, etc into the bank then?

Is that pointless here?

This is why MAKING YOUR OWN BANK/MONEY is the ONLY answer.

The problem is that when people DO that, they discover they have no VALUE, and they starve :D

You must remember that you have spent most of your lives living as a programmed drone. You won't be programmed with anything that gives VALUE to anyone except government. Remember Roman Numerals? Numbers that can ONLY do accounting. YOU are "Roman Numerals"; You only have the appearance of value.

Oh ffs....this is where the Friday call was going, right? When some Quebecois fucktard ruined it...

Something like that.

re. Tally sticks using numerals as a low-tech accounting system. One hypothesis is that Etrusco-Roman numerals actually derive from notches on tally sticks, which continued to be used by Italian and Dalmatian shepherds into the 19th century. Every fifth notch was double cut i.e. ?, ?, ?, ?, etc.), and every tenth was cross cut (X), IIII?IIIIXIIII?IIIIXII..., much like European tally marks today. The tenth V or X along the stick received an extra stroke. Thus 50 was written variously as N, ?, K, ?, ?, etc., but perhaps most often as a chicken-track shape like a superimposed V and I: ?. This had flattened to ? (an inverted T) by the time of Augustus, and soon thereafter became identified with the graphically similar letter L..

Interesting DATA, but you are not looking at the INTENT. You think wrong and value the wrong things. Not once were you focused on INTENT. You prefer the endorphin response of an interesting factoid and hypothesis, rather than focus on what is important; THE INTENT, which in this case is TO HIDE ALL OF FUCKING MATH SO YOU DON'T LEARN HOW TO THINK!

...it turns out it was unnecessary. None of you can think anyway. :P

"The problem is that when people DO that, they discover they have no VALUE, and they starve" HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :D

"We see that money is the mathematics of value exchanged based on mutual agreement. The monetary instrument is but the evidence of the consummated trade. It is a mistake to attribute purchasing power to the instrument, for it has none. It is merely the conduit through which purchasing power flows; such purchasing power lying in the commodities or values exchanged. From this analysis we can deduce that commercial banks do not "lend" money. They, in fact, permit the "borrower" to issue money. Once given permission, the borrower now has the legal authorization to write cheques to the extent of the loan and tender them in trade. UPON THEIR ACCEPTANCE BY A SELLER, WHO IN FACT PROVIDES VALUE, new money has come into existence. This money remains in circulation until such time as the borrower, through becoming a seller, recaptures money with which to liquidate the loan." excerpt from.... MONETARY THEORY OF E.C. RIEGEL by Christopher M. Quigley, B.Sc., M.M.I.I., M.A. March 6, 2007 So in Making your own BANK/MONEY, it is critical that you can sell your value back out.... Otherwise, as Scott points out, you starve, because the money that you create becomes worthless.

http://www.financialsensearchive.com/fsu/editorials/2007/0306.html

Thanks Adrian.

A partner at a seemingly large Canadian firm doesn't know how to account for Bills of Exchange. This guy is a CA and CPA "cross boarder tax specialist".

I must be speaking in fucking Japanese or something...fuck!

Michael Atkins, your father is a CA?

Yes but he is very careful of what he will discuss.

Why? Is he under a contract?

Probably, if he is not starving

Not that its my business...I am just curious as to why he is so cautious for sometthing that is not illegal... :-/

"Yes but he is very careful of what he will discuss." Sounds like a Hell's Angel or something :D

It would seem if they are 'chartered'... you follow the terms of the Charter.... if you want to know. js Seems to me, if you're floating your own boat, you have your own charter. I would think self sufficiency in ability to fund ...'insert contract'... in good performance and fair dealing would be mandatory to avoid conflict with war ships. But I'm a dumbass, correct any error of thought accordingly.

You've essentially got it.

"he is very careful of what he will discuss" i once asked a club member about the charter (my area is not HA territory!). i thought a corporate charter had to be made available through some means of requesting it. is there some way one can acquire a corporate's charter data without becoming a member?

No.

Oh. I see. :-D

Admiral is there anything you don't Know?

then how would one be able to declare a corporation to be violating its charter if such a thing were not capable of being reviewed? even for the charter of a public corporation?

Re:"Admiral is there anything you don't Know" - Far too much. I'm enraged at the injustice of having such a short time to be alive, because it means I can NEVER know as much as I want to. ...and there is SO much I don't know. So I study reality. I learn what is TRUE, so I can change the conditions of the test. I don't want to be immortal through my works. I want to become immortal through NOT DYING! I have supercomputers that have never existed in all of history. I have a map of my OWN GENOME! I CAN READ IT! I actually stand a fighting chance of making death an OPTION. ...and these things have NEVER existed before. These things were NOT POSSIBLE before. What is possible NOW, strains my mind to its limits! What is yet to come? I cannot know MOST of all there is to know, but I can fight to be sure of what I do. That's what allows me to leverage what is to come. I know NOTHING, in the grand scheme of things. I simply know more than YOU. :P

It was a bit of a tongue in cheek question really Admiral but if anyone ever asks me who that bloke Scott Duncan is then I'll just say 'have a read off of that.'

He is Admiral, not a bloke :-D

I stand corrected Captain, no offence was meant.

Do you need to understand where the messages start in the genome Scott, and where they end to be able to read it? I came across this as I was looking for "how to read a genome", and it raised more questions than answers. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-11/cshl-rht110714.php

I am taking a wild guess that somehow the answer IS Computer Science. ;)

GOOD GUESS!

:D

If you start now, you can read it in about 4 years.

"There is no mechanical substitute for the intuition and intelligence of an experienced finisher, so finishing is currently a bottleneck in the process of DNA sequencing."-GNN

I'm good at it NOW :P ...no bottleneck here :D

" There WAS no mechanical substitute for the intuition and intelligence of an experienced finisher " - FIXED The blockchain. :P

http://thestack.com/bitcoin-dna-genecoin-12114

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So let me see if I got this... THE BLOCKCHAIN IS NOT BITCOIN BITCOIN IS A BLOCKCHAIN APPLICATION :D

Now write it out 100 times.

I never liked detention but I can copy a pasta 100X :p

http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/swan20141124

So, I could somehow "solve" my DNA using blockchain technology? It could BE my money?

Solve? What's the question?

The questionS are, "What is MY DNA sequence/map?" "How do I use the blockchain to write/read it?"

Your DNA sequence is in YOU. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaaRrR-ZHP4 The problem is that this "string" is actually several kilometers long and it branches at the nanometre level.

I put my DNA on the blockchain to see WHAT HAPPENS when I make changes. If i did it to myself instead of a "virtual" DNA lab, I'd likely kill humanity with a lethal virus that is a waste byproduct.

To date, only 2 of my 30 modifications so far, are viable. The rest would produce genetic waste that would be lethal to the species. There are THOUSANDS OF OTHERS doing this in actual labs with containment, as I write this. Let that sink in. If ANY of them make a mistake, they could potentially wipe us all out.

On the BRIGHT side, if you know what you are doing, it's pretty fucking hard to make a mistake.