Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:15 PM
I was still trying to figure out this fucking perpetual wheel, that don't want to fucking work, and BANG, these guys show up with this thing :(


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:16 PM
Beverly Berta Braakschmack, get in here ! :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:16 PM
I am sure this is a conspiracy :P


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:17 PM
I wonder how those, who are TENDERING some laws, will react to this :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:18 PM
I have sent an email to these guys... "I hope you guys will accept crypto-currencies as PAYMENT" :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:20 PM
Scott, do something, please ! :/


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Scott Duncan

Nov 07, 2014 10:37 PM
Hmmmm.... Fishy...


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:38 PM
:-D


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Icbeonne Senama

Nov 07, 2014 10:39 PM
I asked Scott about this already. This company is in Oshawa. There are some sites claiming this is a hoax and others saying not. I think Scott said his BS meter started humming.


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Ken Hatt

Nov 07, 2014 10:39 PM
Seems vague.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:40 PM
Call them !!


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:40 PM
They answered my email...


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Ken Hatt

Nov 07, 2014 10:49 PM
Do you know how it works, Pete?


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:52 PM
Yes :-\


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:53 PM
You push the start button :-\


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Ken Hatt

Nov 07, 2014 10:54 PM
.....and little lightning bolts come out.


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Ken Hatt

Nov 07, 2014 10:55 PM
Awesome.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:57 PM
But it dosen't make ANY sense to me, no way they will be able to market this... :-D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 10:59 PM
Unless a MEGA PERSON gets involved :-D


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Ken Hatt

Nov 07, 2014 11:00 PM
Then Mega Personify yourself.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 07, 2014 11:04 PM
If I would come out with a product like that, I would only accept crypto-currency as payment :-P


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Gerry Odonothing

Nov 07, 2014 11:11 PM
I'd say the Admiral has it in one, "Fishy" Fish and water go together like eggs and bacon. It would be no good to me anyways as my water is piped... :)


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Pete Daoust

Nov 08, 2014 12:22 AM
Seriously, do you see what I see ? :D Ethereum Contract, forming a corporation This HUGE marketable product everyone will want to BUY Accepting crypto-currency ONLY Make Mr. FIAT tremble in impotent fury ! :D Paying ALL employees in crypto-currency Having enough buying power to buy components with crypto-currency EXCLUSIVELY.... What a mess !!!..... Scott Duncan, you should seize this company, and make me the General Manager of it :P :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 08, 2014 12:24 AM
:D


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Gerry Odonothing

Nov 08, 2014 12:28 AM
From Captain to General is like from a Jack to a King and I wouldn't mind at all so long as the power didn't go to your head.


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Gerry Odonothing

Nov 08, 2014 12:29 AM
Is that a sheuses?


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Pete Daoust

Nov 08, 2014 12:29 AM
Spreading the power is the way to go, electricity is a solid proof of this....


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Gerry Odonothing

Nov 08, 2014 12:32 AM
Sorry I'm in the wave camp on this. I know his son proved it was a particle but I just don't want to believe that yet; maybe before i die.


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Icbeonne Senama

Nov 08, 2014 2:47 AM
My idea is powering electric motors and charging batteries on a 70 plus foot steel hulled tri deck expedition vessel. Unlimited cruising! Rossinavi Poseidon would be TITS!


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Dean Deaner

Nov 09, 2014 12:04 AM
i called them, he said the 5000w model will be coming out in spring. More info coming late november, and also they are starting to have meetings soon with people interested.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 09, 2014 12:08 AM
How the fuck can someone would not be INTERESTED ? I will call them on monday, to ask a few questions :D


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Chris Evan

Nov 09, 2014 12:38 AM
Pete, let me know, I would like one as well...


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Pete Daoust

Nov 09, 2014 12:40 AM
One ? :-o .....ARE YOU CRAZY ???


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Pete Daoust

Nov 09, 2014 12:40 AM
You want 100 of them, TRUST me on this :D


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Chris Evan

Nov 09, 2014 12:40 AM
Ok....I trust you....let me know


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Rick Hiltz

Nov 09, 2014 1:32 AM
this is not the first time we have seen this where engines run on water ..................http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a74uarqap2E


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Rick Hiltz

Nov 09, 2014 1:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li5a6iuPkNc


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Icbeonne Senama

Nov 09, 2014 6:59 AM
Another water power guy I read about in the past was Paul Pantone and the GEET. There are some youtube videos showing water as fuel in normal IC engines but still could be all BS.


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David Johansen

Nov 09, 2014 7:28 AM
takes more energy to extract and convert water into, than it can create.


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Ken Hatt

Nov 09, 2014 4:35 PM
I hear what you are saying Pete If this system is bonafide and Crypto was the only currency accepted, it could springboard Crypto.


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Rick Carne

Nov 10, 2014 2:27 AM
http://youtu.be/K9jXc8dzE-s


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Rick Carne

Nov 10, 2014 2:38 AM
its not B.S....i made a water hydrogen fuel cell and installed it in a 92' toyota tercell...it worked great it got 45 mi. to the gallon with the A/C on in the summer going up the mountain both ways to El Centro and back to San Diego 135+ mi.......till after extended use, the heat weakened the plastic caps on the jars and it exploded under the hood..hahahaa..plastic caps were used to avoid grounding..should have replaced the caps after a while..derka derka...all the parts were obtained from the pet store and home depot..for under a 100 frn's


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Gerry Odonothing

Nov 10, 2014 2:39 AM
See, there should be a pet store in every town.


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Scott Duncan

Nov 10, 2014 2:41 AM
Now look at what it ACTUALLY TAKES to make a hydrogen fuel cell. ...see how "efficient" you are. :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 10, 2014 2:43 AM
A 1992 Tercel with A/C ? :/


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Rick Carne

Nov 10, 2014 2:46 AM
took some paper to obtain the parts from the store and my time... it took the car from about 32 mpg to 45 mpg is still a gain?..is there something in my chimp brain that i am not comprehending?.... yes it had A/C,... who travels thru the desert w/o a/c?


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Icbeonne Senama

Nov 10, 2014 2:46 AM
It looks like Rick is describing a "joe cell" or something similar where electricity is used to break water into the elemental gases which are then fed into the intake of the motor. Not technically a fuel cell. Fuel cells use the gas to produce electricity.


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Rick Carne

Nov 10, 2014 2:47 AM
yes thru electrolysis


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Rick Carne

Nov 10, 2014 2:48 AM
my bad..wrong terminology....****goes to the back of the class


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Rick Carne

Nov 10, 2014 2:50 AM
http://www.watertogas.com/


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Dean Deaner

Nov 10, 2014 3:03 AM
I've got a 92 tercel also except the c got ripped off so I call it the Terel now. I made the DIY A/C thing from a cooler. Thing runs like a beast


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Dean Deaner

Nov 10, 2014 3:04 AM
Cooler just sits in my back seat


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Pete Daoust

Nov 10, 2014 3:12 AM
I never had a 1992 Tercel :(


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David Johansen

Nov 10, 2014 3:38 AM
i was going to say you couldn't produce enough hydrogen to replace the gasoline, (not without a vac/pump, compressor, coolant & storage tank. so how did you lean the fuel (gas) to compensate for the added hydrogen? what is the voltage required to sepparate the molecules in your fuel cell? did you use somonelses design plans?


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Pete Daoust

Nov 10, 2014 3:42 AM
All posts you make are creating huge doubts on my English comprehension, David Johansen :(


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Scott Duncan

Nov 10, 2014 3:44 AM
No. MAKING a fuel cell is toxic in the extreme. Have you ever wondered what happens to the waste? Look at Sudbury on google maps. Most of the world's nickel came from there. Notice it's just this dead circle surrounded by woodland? Why is it all dead? What happens when MILLIONS use these things?


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Scott Duncan

Nov 10, 2014 3:49 AM
" you couldn't produce enough hydrogen to replace the gasoline "... What? OK, here in REALITY, hydrogen is the second most abundant element in the universe and is also the SIMPLEST. Gasoline is an extremely complex solvent, and exists only here on earth. So, if you were "going to say", "you couldn't produce enough hydrogen to replace the gasoline", you were going to reveal just how profoundly ignorant you are, about even the most basic facts about the world around you.


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Scott Duncan

Nov 10, 2014 4:08 AM
"Models run from $5,360 Canadian to $14,885 Canadian, and will be available to the public �soon.� According to the company�s Alibaba site, GDS Technologies is currently capable of producing 400 portable water generators per month." - This alone sounds fishy. The GDS Generator seems to be FRAUD at worst, or exaggerated claims, at best.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 10, 2014 4:09 AM
Yes.


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Scott Duncan

Nov 10, 2014 4:09 AM
http://beforeitsnews.com/business/2014/10/portable-water-generator-a-scam-2664642.html


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Pete Daoust

Nov 10, 2014 4:35 AM
I'll keep working on the perpetual wheel that keeps stopping turning all the time :-D


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David Johansen

Nov 10, 2014 4:43 AM
well yes ofcourse without further complicating the matter, ignorance would seem to be a party, however i chose to leave out pages of math and details MOST wouldnt begin to comprehend. much like the tender for law. the difference between gas and hydrogen in thermal energy is ~1000:1 add to that one molecule of any gas occupies 24L in volume, so only fabricated as used such as Deans setup would produce (add some pressure release valves), similarly to using solar cells, it is the energy required to put the 'fuel' into storage which would consume much of the available energy, which I accounted for, that you did not. it takes half an Amper of energy to store one Amper in a battery. if you can use it while you make it, the difference is quite large. putting it into storage is quite costly, which is the difference I was accounting for.


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David Johansen

Nov 10, 2014 4:50 AM
likewise one does not produce hydrogen. it is simply just there waiting to be used. yes the lightest and most abundant molecule in existance. what i would say to correct what i said's presumption is that to produce and store as a viable source of fuel for an engine takes more energy than it produces. it also has little use for anything else. while alcohol distillation can be consumed aswell as used as a disinfectant.


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Scott Duncan

Nov 10, 2014 8:29 AM
"while alcohol distillation can be consumed aswell as used as a disinfectant." - Where do you plan on getting this alcohol? Plants? Which plants? Brazil is trying that now, and they are clearing out the rain-forests to keep up. Alcohol is NOT the answer. OIL can be turned into gas for pennies a gallon, the rest is all profit. Gas is STILL too cheap for ANY other form of energy to be viable.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Nov 10, 2014 9:18 AM
using water as fuel, it then returns to water no lose of any mater or resources


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John Gessas

Nov 10, 2014 7:07 PM
I have plant material that can be used to make bio fuel! Problem is every time I go to try making a batch of fuel, my lighter sets it on fire and I lose interest in ...what was I saying ?


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Gerry Odonothing

Nov 10, 2014 10:40 PM
You were saying something about a batch of dodgy lighters that you grew out of some plant material I think?


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David Johansen

Nov 11, 2014 4:15 AM
a simple backyard redneck distillation can produce 98% pure alcohol from fermented grain/seed which contains 75% of the volumetric energy as gasoline produces. it can be made ahead, stored, used as needed. disinfects the kitchen, and liquid refreshments. a steam engine can crank a generator. there is tonns of free harvestable fallen wood to use as fuel. its simply a matter of incorporating a steam pressure boiler to both heat the house, power a generator, and a still. use the alcohol to run the dirtbikes and snowmobiles, lawnmower, tractor etc.. maybe home made alcohol hydrogen hybrid fuel, and hemp seed oil lubricant is just the thing waiting to perfected.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Nov 11, 2014 9:10 AM
I don't know it seems like there's a whole lot of ocean to use as a source of fuel David


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Nov 12, 2014 8:10 PM
http://patriotaction.net/forum/topics/list-of-fake-hoax-news-sites-1


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Nov 12, 2014 8:11 PM
"PS Learn the truth about the soon return of Jesus for the Wise Virgins and the Wedding Guests�." �beforeitsnews.com :/


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Sirwade Firsbey

Nov 12, 2014 8:24 PM
oh just stop listing to those non government run news cites dont you know it is not good to think lol


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Pete Daoust

Nov 12, 2014 8:54 PM
What ? :/ ....


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Sirwade Firsbey

Nov 12, 2014 8:55 PM
it was a joke pete


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Nov 12, 2014 8:55 PM
Its put together like a hottub... even sounds like one...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Nov 12, 2014 8:56 PM
There are 2 inverters and a water pump...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Nov 13, 2014 7:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqKuYesiUJ4


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Nov 13, 2014 8:26 PM
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Michael Atkins

Nov 13, 2014 10:17 PM
Holy Fuck. Seriously. The way we use energy as a so called "society" none of the things Dave mentioned will work. I've been making my own bio diesel for 5 seasons now and it's getting harder and harder to do on the cheap. Sorry David I'm with Scott let's kill 2/3 of the morons and then worry about energy needs. Everyone is too stupid to hear anything but buy gas. Everyone I tell about biodiesel thinks I'm a liar or an idiot. With the same lame advice don't wreck your truck. Lame.


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Gerry Odonothing

Nov 13, 2014 11:58 PM
And Alibaba was/is the leader of a notorious gang of thieves numbering 40. It's all numbers isn't it? :)


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Rick Hiltz

Nov 14, 2014 10:32 PM
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Nov 14, 2014 10:32 PM
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Nov 14, 2014 10:34 PM
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T?lis B?auns

Nov 15, 2014 2:37 PM
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