The Tender For Law

Volume 8

Oct 31, 2014 1:52 AM

Scott Duncan

Here's what it feels like trying to teach you idiots.

RE:"explaining that the man and the person cannot be separated"

THEY CAN"T!

It has been stated to me, by a trusted source, (as a direct result of this post) that you idiots are missing some key points.

1: "The Man" is:

a) a "Natural Person

AND

b) HER MAJESTY

2: "The Legal Person = A CROWN ORGANIZATION

HER MAJESTY AND AN ORGANIZATION ARE TWO PARTIES IN A TRUST FOR WHICH YOU ARE AGENT AND TRUSTEE. NOT AGENT OR TRUSTEE. AGENT AND TRUSTEE (And the trustee MUST perform) for THE PRINCIPAL

BOTH ARE LEGAL FICTIONS.

HER MAJESTY AND AN ORGANIZATION CANNOT BE SEPARATED, and YOU are surety FOR MAJESTY under the CROWN AGENCY ACT.

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David-Paul Sip

Yes this post is the result of a comment I made in another thread (Ex-Citizenship Judge Jailed) about JUSTICE Tom McKeogh referring to "Meads vs Meads" and explaining that the man and the person cannot be separated. Then Tom had the court clerk page the PERSON before deeming the PERSON to have not appeared. :/

John Smith

There is no Nobility in the US. Article 1 Section 10 http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei

Who? Me? I'm not A "YOU" and I am a "me". I am not a THING either. Now.. [Civil: Where is the contract that compels "me" to perform? or Criminal: Who has been harmed? ] HERE IS A COPY OF THE NOTICE OF MISTAKE published on: xx/xx/xxxx leave "me" alone.

John Smith

Section 10.

No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.

David-Paul Sip

This is very hard to get my head around after reading in other posts there is a distinction between the man and the PERSON, they are not one in the same, like John Gessas comment in this thread on August 17th, 2014 (I loved this contribution John) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204413544518686&set=gm.707988202570448&type=1 John's experience with the D/L seems to contradict ""explaining that the man and the person cannot be separated"...THEY CAN'T!" Can you clear this up Admiral?

John Smith

I just administrate the matter. Where's the contract or who has been harmed? [Unless they kidnap you and put you in chains by force which really sucks. So always make sure someone knows that you are going and what to do if they do kidnap you..] Just my 2 sense..

Harry Wombat

Crown Agency Act

R.S.O. 1990, CHAPTER C.48

Consolidation Period: From April 1, 1999 to the e-Laws currency date.

Last amendment: 1998, c.15, Sched. E, s.8.

Definition

1. In this Act,

�Crown agency� means a board, commission, railway, public utility, university, manufactory, company or agency, owned, controlled or operated by Her Majesty in right of Ontario, or by the Government of Ontario, or under the authority of the Legislature or the Lieutenant Governor in Council. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.48, s. 1.

Status of Crown agency

2. A Crown agency is for all its purposes an agent of Her Majesty and its powers may be exercised only as an agent of Her Majesty. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.48, s. 2.

3. Repealed: 1998, c. 15, Sched. E, s. 8.

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Maximus Legis

Comprehending the Legal (fictitious) Person and the fact that it is not yours, deflecting joinder / surety etc is TTFL 101! I revert to that gold nugget regularly to remind me how simple it all is. All else stems from it.

Chris Evan

If someone actually understands this, would you please help me? Here is where I am at:

1: "The Man" is: a) a "Natural Person (agreed) AND b) THE STATE (agreed) 2: "The Legal Person = A CROWN ORGANIZATION (who cares? why is this worth their time? Who is the CROWN? When did I ask them and why are they involved in my life?)

Scott Duncan

YOU DO NOT OWN IT, AND IT IS NOT GIVEN TO YOU!

I am the SUPREME AUTHORITY on board the Copernicus, but it is NOT MINE and is NOT GIVEN TO ME.

YOU are the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR of the BIRTH CERTIFICATE bearing your NAME, but you DO NOT OWN IT. It is NOT YOURS and is NOT GIVEN TO YOU. ONLY THE NAME is given to you.

NAME+CERTIFICATE OF AN ORGANIZATION BEING ORGANIZED=ORGANIZATION.

Anibal Jose Baez

Chris, in the States the principal would be "The Commonwealth of Massachussetts, or which ever State issues the Birth Certificate. That is why Scott suggests to get the principal to attend. And we know it never will.

Here, when a PERSON gets a SUMMONS, it reads "THE COMMONWEALTH OF PUERTO RICO AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" The PRINCIPAL(or equal to THE CROWN) is THE COMMONWEALTH OF PUERTO RICO, if the organization/person was created in this jurisdiction.

Bart Foley

The President is the Head of State. S/he acts on the advice and authority of the Government but performs a limited number of functions after consultation with an advisory Council of State. S/he receives and accredits Ambassadors. Every law made by Parliament is promulgated by him/her. Bills passed by both Houses of Parliament require his/her signature for their enactment into law. S/he may, before signing a Bill, seek a Supreme Court ruling on whether it is repugnant to the Constitution .

On the nomination of the D�il the President appoints the Taoiseach (Head of Government). On the advice of the Taoiseach and with prior approval of the D�il, S/he appoints the other members of the Government. On the advice of the Taoiseach she accepts the resignation or terminates the appointment of members of Government and summons and dissolves the D�il, but S/he has discretionary power to refuse to dissolve the D�il on the advice of a Taoiseach who has ceased to retain the support of the majority in the D�il. This power, which has not so far been exercised, would force the Taoiseach to resign and give the D�il the opportunity to nominate a successor.

The supreme command of the Defence Forces is vested in the President. S/he is not answerable to either House of Parliament or to any court for the exercise and performance of the powers and functions of her office. S/he may, however, be impeached for stated misbehaviour.

Eamonn O Brien

Ok... I learned the other day that Ireland is LEGALLY a republic. And earlier that the President of that republic is the principal... So I'd probably apply that template. Ignore the mention of Obama then...

Bart Foley

Powers and Functions of El Presidente

The formal powers and functions of the President are prescribed in the Constitution. The President, who does not have an executive or policy role, exercises them on the advice of the Government.

There are some specific instances where the President has an absolute discretion, such as in referring a Bill to the Supreme Court for a judgment on its constitutionality or in refusing to dissolve D�il �ireann (lower house of parliament) on the advice of a Taoiseach (Prime Minister) who has ceased to retain a majority. Additional functions can be conferred on the President by law. A special (Presidential) Commission acts whenever the President is absent. This is on a website called www.President.ie

Eamonn O Brien

You're confusing Chris more Bart...

"WHO THE FUCK IS THE CROWN? AND WHY ARE THEY INVOLVED IN MY BUSINESS?"

Except in the US, they took the ball, and all of you are still planning to play soccer, as if you still had it... SD

Scott Duncan

Therein lies the problem. What is the alternative?

Trust me, we're working on/building the answer as we speak. We have at our disposal, things that we, as a species have NEVER had. You take it for granted, that you can communicate INSTANTLY with someone on the other side of the planet. I didn't have that as a youth... so I built it.

...so did hundreds of others. We formed FIDO-NET... I could send a message to the other side of the world in 3 days, through an anarchy of BBS's. Even with 3 days' delay, I found I was more aware of current events, worldwide, than those around me. I learned that NEWS is mostly lies, and half-truths, that way. I learned that we have the shittiest form of government on the planet..,. with the exception of...all of the other ones.

Chris Evan

OMG...those fucking cocksuckers scumbags....how in the hell didn't I see this until just now...UGGGHHHH

Twenty-third, "Person'' or "whoever'' shall include corporations, societies, associations and partnerships.

The last part is missing a fucking COMMA. It says AND. There is the GRAM-MAR. wow....the lengths to which they go....

Steph Boucher

Which lead me to ask, how can you lawfully without breaking trust, resign from one? As previously mentioned, by creating a Trust of our own, and liening the person to it (unsure of grammar here)

Sounds incomplete in my understanding. Or is this possible to do BECAUSE the Trust in which we are is breached by it originators/creator?

David-Paul Sip

The person can't be separate from the Man, of course it can't, what would be the use of it, without a Man "backing" it

Ha ha ha Capitaine Pete. Well Justice Tom Mckeough had the PERSON paged and deemed the PERSON to have not appeared with me standing right in front of him. So it seems the PERSON can be separate from the man :D Judge me by my actions not by my words.

David-Paul Sip

And remember this was after I affirmed that I was a MAN and had the PERSON which I was Sole Authorized Administrator for, and that I use the PERSON to sustain and maintain my life :D If they can't be separated then why not call me MR. SIP or DAVID instead of obeying my wishes to be called Sir or Administrator only?

Steph Boucher

I understand the the person that Pete administrate is not in a Trust but the person that Admiral has, JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN is in one. They are 2 different person and obviously administrated by different man. Is it the only difference or am I missing something. I thought we were all in one, and that we wouldn't ''make it and/or survive'' without one.

Captain Pete is working hard at creating is own money so that he can too create his trust or the other way around? Obviously you can have a trust without currency that is a silly question, I retract it... but I still don't understand quite the mechanics here.

Steph Boucher

im telling you, that tread + my sillness + few comments above really messed the little understanding I had.

Okay so being the BENEFICIARY of what the PERSON provide. The man is the SECURITY/SURETY of the PERSON.

Steph Boucher

Public (Government) Trust is broken. The one Person are into... 8.2 millions of them in QC. My person is also one of them, it is beneficiary of that trust but the man I am is the Administrator of the person. I do not want to be the SURETY of that PERSON. I do not want to be SURETY of any PUBLIC DEBT.

Just so I understand. Pete, that means you gave notice that your person is resigned form the Trust, correct? Do you happen to have a few minutes on Skype, just to beat the shit outta my none sense?

Sirwade Firsbey

Art. 37.

The United States acknowledge and protect, in hostile countries occupied by them, religion and morality; strictly private property; the persons of the inhabitants, especially those of women: and the sacredness of domestic relations. Offenses to the contrary shall be rigorously punished.

This rule does not interfere with the right of the victorious invader to tax the people or their property, to levy forced loans, to billet soldiers, or to appropriate property, especially houses, lands, boats or ships, and churches, for temporary and military uses

Sirwade Firsbey

Art. 38.

Private property, unless forfeited by crimes or by offenses of the owner, can be seized only by way of military necessity, for the support or other benefit of the army or of the United States.

If the owner has not fled, the commanding officer will cause receipts to be given, which may serve the spoliated owner to obtain indemnity.

Sirwade Firsbey

Art. 43.

Therefore, in a war between the United States and a belligerent which admits of slavery, if a person held in bondage by that belligerent be captured by or come as a fugitive under the protection of the military forces of the United States, such person is immediately entitled to the rights and privileges of a freeman To return such person into slavery would amount to enslaving a free person, and neither the United States nor any officer under their authority can enslave any human being. Moreover, a person so made free by the law of war is under the shield of the law of nations, and the former owner or State can have, by the law of postliminy, no belligerent lien or claim of service.

Chris Evan

Just to clear up all confusion... :-D

I am a MAN and I have that person...actually, I am the only MAN authorized to use it, but I am not surety for that person.

Regardless of what happened on this thread, that is the answer!

Further, I require all parties be present, is the party with surety here?

Daniel J Wentz

If the principal is CHARGED, then the principal can ANSWER the charge. YOU are merely an AGENT.

Please note that I used ALL CAPS in some of the words that are important, because you kids have a total nerd-gasm when the Admiral does it. :D

Rodrigo Dan Darius

If I remember correctly, that same guy, in one of his videos, was trying to pass off the idea that the "includes" that follows the definition of "Canada", was merely inclusive rather than also exclusive.

T?lis B?auns

Steve Bates answers questions and letters. example: What is the solution?? 1 - Avoid contracting with the government as much as possible. 2 - If you have contracted with the government, HONOR that contract - do not go into DIS-HONOR !!! 3 - If you have contracted with the government, READ and understand the RULES of the contract (statutes). 4 - Always remain an honorable MAN in law, and an honorable PERSON in legality. 5 - Avoid contracting with the government as much as possible !!! /www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHGPezwFoIY

David-Paul Sip

The major issue I see in the video from Steve BATES is the he equates the LEGAL PERSON with a NATURAL PERSON which is disappointing because he seems to have gotten a few things like not using the LEGAL NAME and entering into private contract instead is prefered to using the SIN.

Chris Evan

Speaking of teaching YOU idiots, can someone help me with this?

I have some fiat that I need to exchange to BitCoin, but its larger than most exchangers can do. And if I break it down into smaller transactions, the services such as Money Gram take a very large portion. Can you recommend an exchange that might be suitable for this type of transaction? OR should I simply nickle and dime this to death?

Janick Paquette

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:/

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