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There is a TENDER for LAW (Legal Jurisdiction) attached to the money. You can trade beads, coupons, notes, stc. None of that has a TENDER FOR LAW attached to its use. Fiat currency and the accounting behind it DOES. It's that simple.

Solution: Make new money.

What about the tender for law that money provides in terms of public debts? Why do you choose to buy public debts based on this tender, even though we know that we aren't the party with surety for public debts?

For the benefit of the "law". That's what separates me from the Free-Dumbers; I PAID FOR THAT LAW, AND I DID NOT GET WHAT I PAID FOR. They don't follow the rules anymore. The Tender For Law, which Fiat Currency provides, is in fact, FRAUD. If you rip ME off, I destroy you. The rules are simple. I was ripped off, so I am going to LEGALLY and LAWFULLY collapse the banking system and start a war. I'm not saying anything NEW here. Where did I lose you?

I wouldn't say I'm lost inasmuch as I have an entire car infront of me in pieces and I lack the skill to put it together...if you will...

The tender for law which fiat currency provides is surety and accounting. Correct?

Yes.

I KNOW the Acts, Codes and statutes better than anyone else. It's why I "invested" in them. It is like a race-car driver buying a fast car. He has the skill to get the MOST out of what he bought. Imagine how pissed off he'd be if 4th gear threw the car into reverse and the engine flew out of the hood? Imagine how much WORSE it would be if the dealer started saying it was the drivers fault for not knowing 4th gear sometimes shifted into reverse! Well the same thing happend with me and "law". That's why you even know I exist.

So... in response, I intend to torture the dealer inside a shipping container out at sea, and drop his naked broken tortured body somewhere in West Africa. He can then become a victim of THEIR "system". I will then repair one of the cars for my own use, and melt the rest down for scrap. The proceeds of which, I shall happily pocket as remuneration for my trouble.

In other news: I truly think that Auto-Suggest intentionally tries to make me look retarded.

inside a shipping container = on a vessel inside CARGO?

It's one of my favourite methods. :D

ahhhh......

For my clarity - When we use legal tender it's a BENEFIT and the use of this BENEFIT implies that we have requested it and this imports a promise to PAY for this benefit. Therefore we gave up our consideration for this benefit back to Bank of Canada and this is why we have no ability to create credit. Due to our own ignorance we screwed ourselves over in exchange for a Benefit based on Debt. This means we have all given up our ability to create CREDIT to BANK of Canada and that was our exchange for the use of debt notes...is this correct? and would the valuable consideration we rendered for this be found in section 57.1 of the BIlls of Exchange Act?

That's pretty much it, in a nutshell.

HOWEVER, if everyone was following the rules, the GOVERNMENT would BORROW FROM YOU, not the banks.

YOU control the money supply in a debt-based economy when your FEDERAL RESERVE is owned by THE MEN AND WOMEN of that nation.

This makes the demand I make for lawful money all the more appealling!!!!

...which is what CANADA is SUPPOSED to be.

...which our grandparents fought and died for.

...Which ignorant Christians shit on.

...which brings us here.

ok....but the banks don't have anything, only promises. WE have actual commercial value, both present and future. What consideration did the banks offer?

Nothing. Currency exchange. That's it.

Bank of Canada is owned by the persons (shareholders) and i have one of those Persons. I am the SOLE authorized Administrator for this person. So I can decide to NOT buy back public debts, the choice is mine. Or, I can accept ALL public debts sent to that person, since I have the right to its SURETY. Holy smokes Batman this makes sense!

This makes not one bit of sense

sorry, I was thinking when faced with a presentment from CRA etc.

i wasn't referencing your comment...I was looking at this whole thread.

oh... cool!

Where did I lose you?

here: HOWEVER, if everyone was following the rules, the GOVERNMENT would BORROW FROM YOU, not the banks.

If it is a RULE, how could they BREAK it, and if they did, they would need to leave recourse....

and here: Nothing. Currency exchange. That's it.

OK. Here in REALITY, most of you dumb chimps are too stupid to even know what MONEY is, muchless what the BANK OF CANADA is. The government KNOWS this, and therefore borrows from PRIVATE/CHARTERED Banks. The banks must lend ACTUAL money that they don't have, so they BORROW it OVERNIGHT, from the Bank of Canada, and pay it BACK with all the "loans" they made, the day before. CITIZENS are left holding the bag. In the United States, the banks are more efficient. They simply TOOK OVER the Federal Reserve. Americans were too ignorant to notice.

Now the judiciary is replaced with wannabe "judges" who claim "authority".

I see....that makes a lot of sense. And in this grand scheme, all the players just go along with it knowing the harm they are causing? Is this correct?

And this: CITIZENS are left holding the bag. That would be before one resigns, them, and after, the surety...correct? Of course, accepting that each individual balances their own accounting and fulfills their own contracts....

About MONEY....I understand money to be Bills, Drafts, Promisorry Notes...errr..and a few other terms that aren't coming to mind. Here, its defined at 13 Stat 99, the National Banking Act of 1864. When we are sent a BILL (for example), drawn from a contract with an Electricity provider, is there any value in claiming the BILL?

Completing it and depositing it into OUR BANK!

http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html

That's all I've EVER been saying.

I didn't get what I paid for. ...so there remains a DEBT. I'll collect it in corpses, if necessary.

Actually, I know! I've just gotten this recently, but the mechanics of it aren't clear.

The other night on the Skype call, this is what I was asking...of course without getting into Aquilae's accounting too much. Buying the debt = keeping the BILL and depositing into our bank.

Thereby creating book value.

But its a fraud.... :-/

Here in Canada we have a small boys club.. Galen Weston Jr(Billionaire) his wife Alexandra Schmidt - Deputy REG General office

:)

on Galen payroll is Norman INkster.. sits on Treasury board.. ex interpol president.. founder of Inkster Group, also on payroll is Navigant Consulting, filled with ex police, RCMP etc. Galen MOm was the ex Lieutenant governor, all friends with our Chief of Police here in Ontario.. with many more connections.

In image !!! :D

Last Friday night? He he. Found the little guy in the boat? Your wife was that mad? She just likes to make you pay for your mistakes? Help???

Scott, lets say that PBIDDY, a person I trust, has on deposit $10,000 in Bills of Exchange. Does an Agent of PBIDDY walk over to the local bank and deposit them? Has anyone here tried this?

I also remember reading somewhere in the clubhouse rules that a BoE is only redeemable for 90 days from the Date it was created. :-/

Well, is it not the "education" we received ? Put "money" in the bank ? :-D

A bill of exchange IS "money". I have red that somewhere... :-D

Have you done this?

Do I walk up to the window with Completed Bills? Or do I do it privately?

No, not yet..

Use the ATM, that is what I would do...

Not me....I've already schooled the bank on 12 USC 411...I am not about to back down now with BoEs. I just want to know the best course to take.....

Ok...

Its true....they don't want to accept my deposits, but they have to! They told me! :-D

And WHY they don't want ?

Its a restrictive endorsement....sucks for them

Why does it sucks for them ?

Because 12 USC 411 demands an inelastic currency. Since the Instrument is money, it becomes inelastic...which means no fractional reserve banking. It also means that I am bypassing the Federal Reserve System....It will be accounted as a liability on their books, then transferred to the Treasury as an asset

It doesn't really affect you though....but it it is the right way to interface with a bank down here

Here there is different kinds of a medium that we can demand...there are these 12 USC 411 notes, or there is 31 USC 5115 notes. They aren't printing anymore of these, but 411 notes are the substitute upon demand....It says so here: http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Currency/Pages/legal-tender.aspx

hmmm....now that I think of this, once these BoEs are deposited into trust, wouldn't that create BOOK VALUE for the corp? Then, wouldn't the BOOK VALUE be leveraged for fiat? Also, who measures BOOK VALUE? a Chartered Accountant?

Here I'm coming back again with the "FOR DEPOSIT ONLY" thing... Sorry if I sound really dumb :( Why do I have the impression that a DEPOSIT seems to be something that cannot be withdrawn / has to be kept on account ? That once you withdraw the funds, it could no longer be considered a DEPOSIT ?? When you write those words on a cheque, does that mean the bank MUST KEEP the original instrument ??? If so, then it seems, indeed, that any money of exchange available would be something totally independent from the DEPOSITED instrument and wouldn't be REVENUE... In such a case, it seems it wouldnt be REVENUE for as long as the INSTRUMENT is DEPOSITED. There's no synonyms in law... So if I'm right thinking withdrawn DEPOSITED funds no longer are a DEPOSIT, and we know invoices can be SECURITIZED (right ?), and SECURITIES can be DEPOSITED... Is it possible that you could withdraw a DEPOSIT and replace the funds withdrawn with SECURITIZED RECEIPTS, or BIlls of Exchange or any other SECURITY, DEPOSITED, keeping the accounting even ???

I get it now! Fuck that was painful!

It's worse for me, I assure you.

a ha, new private banks, storing deposits, the depositor redems a crypto exchange. keep it local...

i got it. pbdy coin exchange. you hold there gold in exchange for pbdy crypto coin that only you mine/create, with a trust/promis to redeem gold/silver and/or other valuable exchange. you become a private banker.

Thank you Scott! Truly! Thank you!!!!

Scott, you said before to get any Chartered Accountant...of course here, its a CPA to do the books. What exactly is their function? Do they certify a Balance sheet?

^^ that is a good question, I've talked to a few Chartered Accountants who didn't even know what bills of exchange were :/

Ahhhh.....the tender for law that money provides. :-D

Were they CHARTERED accountants, Gail? If so, they lied to you. I'll tell them to their face. Give me their names, I'll call them right now. I'll record the call! :D

:D

There seems to be a SECURITY issue, in Ottawa, as we speak .....

Seriously? A Chartered accountant who doesn't know what a bill of exchange is? That's like an auto mechanic having no clue what GAS is.

they said they were...it was a short conversation after that and my knowledge at the time was limited....I'm going to meet with one early next week

Be sure to call me in that meeting. :D

Will Bed...EVERYTHING is a fucking trust...For Deposit Only confirms that! and makes the bank trustee and holder in due course...now, what do they do with it? Do they create money on account? Isn't that the definition of INCOME? But do they want YOU on the hook for it? Remember a deposit is REGISTERING Money on Account. Before that, it was Money for Exchange.

Why you say: " Before that, it was Money for Exchange." Chris Evan ? :/

Because it was until it was registered

Didn't Scott just say on Friday that a deposit is registering money for exchange as money of account?

A cheque isn't Money of Exchange ? Here's how I get it.... You deposit a cheque, which is money of account, and write "for deposit only" on it. That money of account can ONLY be deposit, there's nothing else to do with it. And it.s still money of account, it never been money of exchange. Then you go to the ATM, and get Money-of-Exchange from that thing. So the money of account that was for deposit ONLY, just has been exchange into "money of exchange". But that "money of account" that has been deposited for deposit ONLY, can't be view as INCOME, because it was meant to be DEPOSIT only. I wish I could show you the image of all this, that I have in my brain :D

A Travellers Check is Money for Exchange, a Postal Money Order is Money for Exchange....why would a personal or business check be Money on account? :-/

It's "money OF exchange" and "money OF account" :P

A travellers check and a postal money order has been BOUGHT......not a personal or company check....

Would you consider a company/personal check as CA$H ?

I can trade it at the bank its drawn on for its face value in cash, so yeah....

You can EXCHANGE, not trade, fuck... :(

Money of Exchange (ready for exchange against stuff) CA$H Postal Money Order BILL OF EXCHANGE :D Money of account (invisible thing :D ) Company check (with a signature as surety) Personal check (with a signature as surety) CREDIT CARD :D (with a NIP or Signature as surety) Electronic Transfer (with a IP address as surety :D )

Investopedia says this: DEFINITION OF 'MEDIUM OF EXCHANGE' An intermediary instrument used to facilitate the sale, purchase or trade of goods between parties. In modern economies the medium of exchange is currency.

Do you think Medium of Exchange and Money of Exchange is the same thing ? :/

right...my bad, please forgive me...it was a bad google click

I think you are mistaken....a check made out to you or whomever, is debt in transit. is it not?

Why would it be ? :/

I see it more as a transfer of money of account from an account, to another account :D

Exactly...debt in transit

Why a DEBT ?

Money of "ACCOUNT", it says it.....it's money that is ALWAYS in an ACCOUNT, it jumps from accounts to accounts......boum boum.... :D

Money is DEBT! YOu are transporting it... :-/

money of account n. A monetary unit in which accounts are kept and that may or may not correspond to actual current denominations.

Shit, they just said on tv that Canada is at war, and the enemy are some mentally ill terrorist of some sort !! :-o

sooooo.......anyone know the answer?

All lies; I'm at home having a nice cuppa before bed and I have no intention of terrorising Canaduh tonight.

Not enough time Chris Evan, there's a WAR here.... :P

A check isnt MONEY. It has no value. It's an order to perform a transfer of funds from account a to account b... But if you lose the check, no money is lost...

Ah....got it!!! Its also the tender for law that money provides. :-D fuck I'm a dumb chimp!

I agree...

On the second part of your comment :-D

Yeah....I know

Can and/or will someone here please explain how money of account and money of exchange competes with each other..? I am sure inquiring minds want to know... and yes this was a great thread Chris Evan thank you.

maybe this will help Chris Thornton copied from a thread months ago You have been pre-programmed to accept this subjugation, this ridiculous, FRAUDULENT, morally-bankrupt subjugation is a LEGAL necessity, and all of it deals with MONEY OF ACCOUNT. MONEY OF EXCHANGE never touches the equation. For those of you who are too lazy and/or stupid to learn the difference between MONEY OR ACCOUNT and MONEY OF EXCHANGE, one dollar in MONEY OF ACCOUNT is only capable of buying and/or cancelling another dollar in MONEY OF ACCOUNT. 90% of all money in the world is this type of money. It's pretend. It's not real. It only applies to the clubhouse rules, and it competes directly with the money in your pocket. This is the dynamic that everyone misses. If it exists in the real world, it has VALUE. Any currency used to track that VALUE, when exchanging goods, is MONEY OF EXCHANGE.

Aaaaand : http://rt.com/op-edge/198060-denmark-electronic-money-cash-banks/

Ahhhh.... The tender for law that money of account provides.

1: A cheque IS money. If I bang a hot chick, and she pays to be serviced with a cheque... It's fucking MONEY OF EXCHANGE. 2: Money of account is not physical. It's accounting. (Money of account). NOTHING IS EXCHANGED.

Pays to be serviced! Ha!!

:D

What?

:D

I am pretty sure you'd bang a hot chick for free....but point taken.

Women don't pay you for sex? ...what must that be like?

Anyway....cool...I have a bank now and I know what to do with it. :-D

Fuck...Since I figured this out I can't even read Facebook for fun anymore. Ignorance is a choice. :-/ Go to my page and see these idiots with beliefs argue about strangers that had gold. Uggghhhh

Know my pain, Chris. Know my pain.

Trim your "friends", Chris. You do not need 95% of those. I had 400 and something "friends"' before joining The Tender for Law, now I am down to 31, and my learning experience is MUCH, MUCH better. It SUCKED to see all those "conspiracy" fake news all over the wall, ignorance posing as knowledge, and much other distractions.

tell me about it...I had over 400 I have 200 something now. Most are Peabody people now. Very few of those whacko conspiracy nuts left....There are some, but they all show signs of "getting it".

Wow....do you guys see what we can do with this???

Yup....and bring the money from that jurisdiction to another!

This thread has been extremely helpful to me. Thanks Scott, and Chris.

The trust holding corporation needs as many shares as persons it creates. Those are the valuable consideration for the Bills. And that is what the BC is. But its fraud. Fuck Scott....you told me this over a year ago, I finally get it!! That's why there needs to be a reorganization every time there is a new person created/added, right?

The notice of mistake means they already have rights to the instrument! Ha...now I see what they did to me. Fuck....

I also see why I have to buy that public debt...what a shitty situation. :-/

Ahhhh.....the tender for law that money is supposed to provide.

Wow....what a fucking racket. :-/

Fuck...I need more persons and quickly.

:-D does this make any sense to anyone? :-D

"They" keep the real VALUE, and we agree just buy back the debt.

Nope....you didnt buy anything. You paid for it, and they get it!

Wow....what a scam....

Ahh!

:o

That gives slavery an extra pinch of spice. :/

Errr....bonded servitude.

But it sure does.

A bondservant IS a slave. www.thefreedictionary.com/bondservant

Well there it is!! Ha!!!

Gonna be an interesting call tonight ! ;)

I can't make it. I'm going away. :-/ anyone going to record it?

Oh fuck....this group is called THE tender for law, not A tender for law. I get it! Painful....very painful. That shouldn't have taken so long. :-D

Chris you seem to be on another one of your enlightenment spree ;) I wanna hear you on this !!

Public Notice PBIDDY is accepting citizens now....get in early for great benefits!!! Apply in pm here! Bahahaha!!!!!!

http://www.rpfightingblindness.org.uk/imagelibrary/recruit.JPG

Yes Chris Evan, spill the shit please :-D

Its all over here....I spilled it!!

Can PIERRE DAOUST be one of Pibiddy AUTHORIZED AGENT now ? :-P

Yes! Does Pierre want to be a citizen??? :-D

No, but PIERRE DAOUST is already one... :D

A Canadian one though....

Chris, ever seen our first skype call, you seem to have figured something out and I need to literally draw the picture to understand everything correctly... I'm still missing something and it drives me fuckin nuts :(

He has to resign then talk to me

No applications for citizenship yet?? Damn...you guys are literally missing the boat!!! Hahaha....its docked at a wharf, now.

I gotta reorganize SGMI, and PBIDDY on Monday. After that, citizenship is expensive. :-D

Oh fuck.....I just can't stop this! Hahaha

Scott...is this a stainshit?? :-D

Maybe I should overstock on citizens....like this guy: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6GznhT__PXs

Where is everyone? This shit is gold...

I am BUSY, Chris Evan.....I will be back later... :)

Going to have to read this thread repeatedly... :/

Fuck that Eamonn....Just apply to PBIDDY for citizenship. We have very low criteria for approval! HA!

I need to understand first!

Feel like summarising as concisely and dumbed down as possible? :p

nahhh....I'll explain it all to you, just sign here _________ here___________ intial here _____________ thumbprint here _______________ and I will take care of you!

"just sign here, and i'll explain it all later". Signing without understanding the contract first... How is that different from the current deal? :p

EXACTLY....it was a joke in reference to that!! HAHAAH!!!! :-D

And you chose to go with that, rather than answering someone's request for more information so that he can understand?

If I refused to answer someones question, that was a mistake! I thought I have been very forthcoming on this thread...

Are there any questions anyone has that haven't been answered?

Ah it's ok.... I now have a car in a thousand pieces infront of me...

same here :/

Righto, from the top...

You want me to spill it again...fuck! I just did this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etBRqzt7OqY

Chris Thornton "Therefore we gave up our consideration for this benefit back to Bank of Canada and this is why we have no ability to create credit" Not fully understanding that....

ohhhh....thats not a question I left unanswered!

Also, for the record, I have spent hours on the phone, in pms, and on skype answering individual questions on this topic....

Anyone willing to attest to that statement???

You're going through pms?

:)

When you say "our bank" you lose me...

Yes I can attest to that Chris Evan

Is that a question Eamonn?

What do you mean when you refer to "our bank"?

:-D very simple...a bank is a trust holding corporation that is holding a trust. I am a shareholder of one of those!

The fact that I haven't set up any corp or "killed the person" yet probably stifles my understanding... I still just use cash for everything... I have no accounts etc...

well stop doing that and get a bunch of Bills!

Just a surety dodger for now...

Why do I need a bunch of bills?

Then you deposit the bills into your bank! Then you get a CPA to certify the value! Then you go to a bank to loan yourself your own credit...if you want to

Or, you hold all of these INSTRUMENTS as value

Or, PBIDDY can do all of this for you! :-P

Define bill... Do you mean a utility bill for instance?

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/bill

BTW....with the whole citizen thing....I'm joking, its not a tender....

How does one deposit a bill into a company? (I think very literally, as in picturing a man doing these things...)

Well...if it was me, i would write "Pay to the order of PBIDDY" on the back of it.

Then, if I was PBIDDY, I would probably Account for that. Then, I would definitely put it in the file cabinet

They have this really cool thing called the Generally Accepted Fraud Principles...no wait, thats not it...hang on....its called the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. I am sure a CPA knows them....

Pay to the order means? Who the payee is?

hang on...scratch that....FOR DEPOSIT ONLY! Thats right...on the back

Pay to the order of is how you complete the front of the thing

I have a FOR DEPOSIT ONLY STAMP ; )

Great...so you are one step forward! Did you read this post or just jump in?

Are we talking about a bill from a utility company for instance? I don't even know what we're talking about! :/ Fuck I hate the frustration this can cause...

I don't know of a different kind of bill, do you?

Right so "power company" sends a bill to CHRIS EVAN and are looking to get paid...

Are you sure they aren't asking you to buy some debt?

Power company sends a bill to CHRIS EVAN and are looking for that debt to be bought...

(For all I know I already understand this and that's why it's wrecking my head)

yup....its the tender for law that money provides!

So you take that bill and mark it for deposit only?

ENDORSE

When you take your check to the Bank are they NOT buying your debt and issuing you CREDIT money of account?

So by endorsing you transfer the value (which is the amount of the debt) to your company?

I don't know, but I don't see what that has to do with this thread....

The debt is then transferred to the Bank to hold as an asset which it can leverage as loans..

No...I didn't say transfer...I said DEPOSIT...fuck, its a bank.

Vincent, this isn't a thread for random popcorning...actually, it is, but for me, so fuck off!

:-D

No, I'm actually trying to see what you are getting at..

If I had the ban button, I would ban Jason, Charles, Simon, Vincent Ferrer. I would!

So you sign it and mark it for deposit only and an accountant deposits it into your company via it's accounts?

Well, you aren't even close, read it again

Got it..

Scott and Pete told this guy to shut up under various alias'

Does an accountant deposit your instruments now?

Eamonn, ITS YOUR BANK!

What bank?!?!!?!?

Central Bank in ireland?

I DON"T KNOW! Fuck

:)

Is your bank the Central Bank in Ireland?

Whats your bank?

Its YOURS!!!!

Call it EamonnBank, I don't know

PBIDDY

Treasury actually....

Where does that exist?

So your bank is the US Treasury?

It was incorporated in Delaware, it holds a Registed Agent there, but its offices are in Peabody, Massachusetts

PBIDDY sounds like a rapper to me...

Fuck....where did I say that

Its not...its a trust holding corporation. Its serious business....

Its legal name is PBIDDY INC

Ok, I don't have a company. I have no experience with running one or with doing accounts for one... That could be a reason for my difficulty understanding here...

It holds Bills, a trust indenture, and lawful money of the United States...as of Monday, it will issue shares to its subsidiaries.

I know!!! I am trying to help!

ok.....start a trust, start a company, grant the rights to the trust, lien the name, fuck bitches....

Here's a question and it could be a dumb one, I don't even know... If there's a lien on the name can I still use it?

If you want...but the lien is supposed to be the resignation....this is probably a better question for Scott....

Scott...all this correct? :-D

Ok, so you get a bill and you endorse and deposit it into your company's accounts... What next?

no...the company buys that debt for a valuable consideration...a SHARE

Lost me again

The holding corporation issues one share per person...for each person it adds, it reorganizes. Scott told us this....

The Share is a BC...or similar in nature as far as function

The Share is the consideration for the corp to buy all the bills

Am I supposed to be comparing the function of PBIDDY to Government here?

I think so...but I really don't know the government there. I know the government here though!

Sorry Chris I know this must be excruciating for you but once I get on the same page I can go forth and share the knowledge...

ITs not excruciating at all....a very wise man took the time with me, its the least I can do!

Consideration for the corp to buy all the bills... Not understanding that

But honestly, I have no idea how in the fuck he put up with us chimps

Ok...its about attornment, and the entire thing is about them stealing your value. Your value comes in the mail everyday and since you were operating through their registered security, they have a claim to it

This way, you choose where your value goes

The SHARE is similar in function to the BC that they issued

So the holding corp issues a share, with a certificate, for each PERSON (each time a bill is received). The holding corp's VALUE increases as bills are DEPOSITED and REGISTERED/ACCOUNTED...

no, not each time a bill is received...perhaps upon deposit of a lien though. :-D

yes to the second part...book value...money on account!

Actually, it issues a BUNCH of shares, which will be used as bills are received ?

no it doesn't!