Pete Daoust

Oct 18, 2014 4:15 PM
1). I have to learn more about the blockchain 2). "Why" am I doing this specific thing... :)


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Pete Daoust

Oct 18, 2014 4:25 PM
Sorry, number 1 should have read: I have to learn about the blockchain :/


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Scott Duncan

Oct 18, 2014 4:28 PM
Close enough :D


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T?lis B?auns

Oct 18, 2014 4:32 PM
Diamonds are a waste product SOLD to the 'majority' as a rare investment..


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 4:37 PM
I've been posting my take aways on my page....the latest has been infiltrated by theists that I've been fending off.... https://www.facebook.com/chris.schulte.56/posts/10203641156123251?notif_t=like


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 4:39 PM
1.) I am scared of my ignorance. 2.) Plan for SUCCESS in the future. 3.) Know where you are going and why. This exercise in learning the 'law' has turned into a "who the fuck am I" exercise.


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Rodrigo Dan Darius

Oct 18, 2014 4:39 PM
1) It's ALL FICTION. 2) "Derek Moran-types" are worse than "average dumb ass" because they sound smart and appeal to our love of "magic words".. clubhouse rules.. 3) Blockchain is the future. 4) Masons are NEVER free. They're expensive. 5) Rothchilds, Russell Brands, folks in black dresses... They're ALL strangers. These strangers take up precious space in one's mind. Stop paying them mind.


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Janick Paquette

Oct 18, 2014 4:51 PM
- To do list: 1) Know what money is 2) Creat a TRUST 3) Resign from Gouvernment Services 4) Learn all you can about the Blockchain Questions to ask yourself: What is the concept of aging? How would the Blockchain profit you? What happens if YOU succeed? What is YOUR Plan? What is Money? Why isn't Scott a FREEDUMBER? ... not necessarily in that order! :D


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Pete Daoust

Oct 18, 2014 4:53 PM
Maybe you put too much potatoes in the blinder, Janick Paquette :D


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Janick Paquette

Oct 18, 2014 4:54 PM
I'm hungry! :D


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Janick Paquette

Oct 18, 2014 4:59 PM
Which ones are too much for YOUR tast Pete Daoust? :)


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Pete Daoust

Oct 18, 2014 5:02 PM
See ? ....not only I have learned English language in The Tender for Law, but I also learned Woman Language !! :D


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Janick Paquette

Oct 18, 2014 5:10 PM
:D Imagine how it is on my end! There's a majority of Men and I have to addapt to YOUR Language ALL the time! :D ... it's still a semi-chimp usage of a language! :P


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Janick Paquette

Oct 18, 2014 5:12 PM
Fuck! Missed it! Blender... woman... :P


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Pete Daoust

Oct 18, 2014 5:20 PM
Potatoes too, very important in your case :-D


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Will Jefferson

Oct 18, 2014 6:00 PM
Wait so there was a call last night? I tried calling in a few minutes before 8, but it said I needed skype credit but that didn't work? How can I make sure I don't miss the next one?


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Howard Posehn

Oct 18, 2014 7:00 PM
Follow what Scott says, Dean's FUCKED, blockchain rules, deposite only, Scott is better than us! There,15 words! There's more though...


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 7:50 PM
Janicks vagina is under her eye?


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 8:10 PM
Mental Note....ask Scott next week about performing the IRS accounting of a Trust Holding Company. :-D


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Cara Small

Oct 18, 2014 8:19 PM
Learn as much as possible about the blockchain.


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Cara Small

Oct 18, 2014 8:32 PM
Adapt or die.


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Will Bed

Oct 18, 2014 8:35 PM
"Deposit is not income" I'm missing something there.... : /


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 9:25 PM
It has to do with trust corpus' Will Bed.


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Will Bed

Oct 18, 2014 9:43 PM
Makes sense, money deposited in trust is not income... But that sparked something in my brain... That whole writing "for deposit only" on checks being deposited in a checking account thing is only freedumb theories, right ?


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 9:44 PM
NO! Its not!


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 9:46 PM
Scott also said before that ACCOUNTING only happens on land. Therefore, I see this as DEPOSITS aren't accounting until the vessel DOCKS on LAND! I think that will happen when I die, and hopefully, when I die, I still have vessels that are transferring CARGO at sea.


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Will Bed

Oct 18, 2014 10:02 PM
I'm confused. INCOME : The return in money from one's business, labor, or capital invested; gains, profits, salary, wages, etc. How could a sum of money (check) DEPOSITED in a checking ACCOUNT not be INCOME ?


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 10:05 PM
Because when you DEPOSIT an instrument, you are no longer the holder in due course. Its a naked bailment....


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 10:08 PM
DEPOSIT, contracts. Usually defined to be a naked bailment of goods to be kept for the bailor, without reward, and to be returned when he shall require it.


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 10:09 PM
Its all surety and accounting......


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Will Bed

Oct 18, 2014 10:10 PM
So a sum of money (CHECK) DEPOSITED in a CHECKING ACCOUNT should only be considered INCOME when the money is actually being DEBITED from the ACCOUNT ? *edited an Adam Thomas typo


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 10:12 PM
yeah....if you know who the party with surety of the DEBIT is.....


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Will Bed

Oct 18, 2014 10:15 PM
Which would have to be whichever person authorises the debit...


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Chris Evan

Oct 18, 2014 10:16 PM
I think Scott said you can withdraw funds from an ATM on the way out of the bank..


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Xrisjuice Xris

Oct 18, 2014 10:22 PM
It has been suggested to Stop using the word Employed, you get income from employment, whereas contracting is a private undertaking. the jurisdiction is narrower than you think. Government only has claim to income. Income is pay from employment, or gains through money of account. Deposits are NOT part of government jurisdiction. It is recommended to put For Deposit Only in the memo section of any cheque being deposited. Deposits are not income. It is all accounting and the name is an account. I recall these words in one of the articles.


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Will Bed

Oct 18, 2014 10:31 PM
I'm still missing something...


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Icbeonne Senama

Oct 19, 2014 12:15 AM
I tried to call in as well. I think I need to be added back from last week's removal. Aquilae Lab did not come "online" in my skype. Forgive my mistakes and add me please.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Oct 19, 2014 12:29 AM
Will Bed, there are no synonyms, nor homonyms in LAW. I think your confusion lies in the definitions of the words. The definition of the words INCOME, and DEPOSIT cannot be the same. You have not heard of the "DEPOSIT Tax Act," but perhaps the "INCOME Tax Act." Having said that, in LEGAL world, INCOME is TAXABLE, DEPOSITS are NOT taxable. DEPOSITS are HELD in TRUST. But you may still withdraw funds AFTER being DEPOSITED, by way of ATM, as Chris has mentioned. Scott has mentioned one may write "FOR DEPOSIT ONLY" in the instruments. NOT only for tax purposes, but also that way you avoid acting as SURETY for that INSTRUMENT, by NOT placing your signature.


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Chris Evan

Oct 19, 2014 12:31 AM
Mackximus, that also has to be taken one step further too...the signature card needs to also have a restrictive endorsement as well....


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Anibal Jose Baez

Oct 19, 2014 12:35 AM
The signature card that you sign to open the account, Chris? If so, I never heard Scott say anything about that here, but it makes sense that if necessary to give a signature, one must show INTENT of reservation of rights.


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August le Blanc

Oct 19, 2014 12:36 AM
1) Vitalek Buterin and Gavin Wood are innovators and very smart, learn from them. 2) Think from another vantage point, beyond commerce. 3) Move from consumer mentality to provider mentality; For example, Provide a 3D printing service that only excepts its own currency for services provided.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Oct 19, 2014 12:37 AM
Bobis Youruncle, good to see you here.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Oct 19, 2014 12:40 AM
Did anyone recorded the call, and may share it, by any chance?


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Will Bed

Oct 19, 2014 12:42 AM
I'll have to look into that... Because a DEPOSIT, which comes from a check in exchange for an INVOICE for service provided, still seems to fit the definition of INCOME : /


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Anibal Jose Baez

Oct 19, 2014 12:43 AM
Just apply the #1 rule of the universe, and just try to find out why this is right. :D


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Will Bed

Oct 19, 2014 12:46 AM
Exactly !


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Anibal Jose Baez

Oct 19, 2014 12:47 AM
<<... a DEPOSIT, which comes from a check in exchange for an INVOICE for service provided, still seems to fit the definition of INCOME>> There are NO SYNONYMS in law. Is this is true, and it is, how can you insist a DEPOSIT "still seems to fit the definition of INCOME? :/


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Will Bed

Oct 19, 2014 12:53 AM
Alright, It seems the piece of paper - which is the check - does fit the definition of income as a "return in money from one's labor". If you claim otherwise, please provide proof to support your statements. The only possibility would then seem to be that writing FOR DEPOSIT ONLY is what makes it NOT INCOME... I just try to figure out why he's right... Sorry if I dont blindly believe ;)


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Anibal Jose Baez

Oct 19, 2014 1:04 AM
Well, I tried helping. :/


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August le Blanc

Oct 19, 2014 1:07 AM
I do know the why of all of the actions taken in the past 18 months by a trusted person, it all stemmed my initial goal to learn the truth. To hold to account the person responsible for harms caused wrongfully. To find out it is all MAKE BELIEVE. Agent in commerce, has raised some moral and ethical programming issues, Which began when I questioned everything growing up However, due to the insurance of things, its either be bought out or die it seems. The agent in commerce was to fine the wrong doer and then hold the funds in trust and exchange as needed and spending it on tools to provide a IT based service in multiple locations, utlizing crypto currency as the medium...


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Janick Paquette

Oct 19, 2014 1:07 AM
Girl Brain Will Bed? :P


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Will Bed

Oct 19, 2014 1:11 AM
Can you provide proof to support that statement Janick :p Can you explain what it is I seem to have such a problem understanding ?


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Pete Daoust

Oct 19, 2014 1:22 AM
For deposit ONLY, = these funds are ONLY for deposit, not for income, not to spend, not to wipe my ass with, but ONLY for deposit... :D


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Pete Daoust

Oct 19, 2014 1:23 AM
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/only


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Pete Daoust

Oct 19, 2014 1:26 AM
Now, once this is done.....these funds were MONEY OF ACCOUNT for DEPOSIT ONLY, right ? Then, you can run to this ATM, and this fucking machine will give you MONEY OF EXCHANGE.....and you can do what the fuck you want with it.... So, NO INCOME appears in the equation....


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Chris Evan

Oct 19, 2014 1:26 AM
I also write FOR DEPOSIT ONLY on the DEPOSIT SLIP....but that may be overkill....


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Pete Daoust

Oct 19, 2014 1:40 AM
So you also deposit the deposit slip ? :D


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Pete Daoust

Oct 19, 2014 1:40 AM
HAHAHAHA!!!! :D


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Pete Daoust

Oct 19, 2014 1:43 AM
Seriously, this is easy for me to grasp only (No more than), adjective bare, mere, plain, simple :D


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Chris Evan

Oct 19, 2014 1:43 AM
no, but it itemizes the instruments transferred....


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Will Bed

Oct 19, 2014 2:21 AM
Thanks for that Pete. For some reason the money of account vs exchange didnt come to mind :( Now, if a check is for deposit only, does that mean the bank has to keep it, making it impossible for the corp which wrote it to claim back ? As in non negotiable anymore ? I guess youd keep copies of those checks...


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Pete Daoust

Oct 19, 2014 2:24 AM
What's a bank, Will Bed ? :)


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Pete Daoust

Oct 19, 2014 2:27 AM
That info was useful for those who receives paychecks.....EMPLOYEES.... If they would follow this process, no fucking "income" would exist, so ZERO would be the amount to write on that INCOME tax return.... :D


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Pete Daoust

Oct 19, 2014 2:28 AM
If I remember correctly, thats was some time ago, in here, and I am NOT employable, so that stuff isn't for me.....


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Pete Daoust

Oct 19, 2014 2:47 AM
Ok, lets start learning the block chain :/ Block Chain. 1. (Mach.) A chain in which the alternate links are broad blocks connected by thin side links pivoted to the ends of the blocks, used with sprocket wheels to transmit power, as in a bicycle.


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Chris Evan

Oct 20, 2014 2:30 AM
Will Bed, when you deposit the instrument "for deposit only", you are registering money on account...who is the party with surety at that point?


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Will Bed

Oct 20, 2014 2:53 AM
The bank is.


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Chris Evan

Oct 20, 2014 3:26 AM
No...WILL BED. You only have beneficial use


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Will Bed

Oct 20, 2014 3:30 AM
Isnt the bank surety for what was deposited in an account there ?


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Chris Evan

Oct 20, 2014 3:34 AM
We are talking about income vs deposit right? And the tax on the income? WILL BED is the surety.


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Will Bed

Oct 20, 2014 3:40 AM
WILL BED is indeed surety for that accounting.


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Chris Evan

Oct 20, 2014 3:44 AM
Right...so then you go to the ATM an collect what you have beneficial usage to. No income happened for you


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Janick Paquette

Oct 20, 2014 1:42 PM
aaaaaahhh! :D


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