Oct 15, 2014 8:37 PM

If they are OFFENDED, ask forgiveness! :D

Why is the REFERENCE number redacted?

I did that... Info pertaining to this particular case... Prob makes no difference...

So they acknowledged receipt of the notice of mistake. They didn't rebut my position. I authorised the discharge and now they've issued a summons.

Are they playing dumb as regards to not presenting it to central bank?

Should I get an affidavit together along with the other documents? Either way the court date is set so I think filing with the clerk wouldn't hurt...

Bill them...

Bill the applicant/plaintiff?

"My position as administrator and a party without surety has already been established regarding this matter. If you require further assistance you will be liable for bill."

Something like that?

And send the price list..

So send a fee schedule along with the affidavit to the court file?

Just tell them the matter has been setrled, and you charge $3000 per hour if they want you to go to a business meeting over a settled matter, and you need to get paid in advance because you've heard that they usually don't pay their bills.....

It's solely the court Im dealing with now yes?

They are all in the same gang.... :-D

That's not a fucking court, that's a BUSINESS office :-P

Ill get to work on my affidavit. Exhibits included...

Why a fucking affidavit ? :-\

To guarantee they look at it... Isn't that what we've been taught? Affidavit with exhibits...

Eamonn O Brien, WHY an affidavit ?

Is there criminals charges involved ?

No injured party...

Is there criminals charges involved ?

No

Ok, so it's BUSINESS, right ?

Yes, always... All accounting...

Have you settled that debt ?

As far as I'm aware...

Good, so tell them, add all the paperwork you've done so far, with an invoice for four hours minimum at $3000 per hour, to be paid in advance, and as soon as you receive the cheque, it will be a pleasure for you to attempt any business meeting..

Do you have a corp. set up so far ?

Nope. Cash is still king for me at the moment... So mail the clerk with all the paperwork and notice of liability for a bill rather than an invoice as they haven't been notified before...

A fee schedule rather than an invoice no?

Both...

And the cheque needs to be made for EAMONN O BRIEN, the person...

Why am I invoicing the court when all they've done is send an invite?

Because you presume they will accept your terms. and pay

And you are not invoicing a court, you are invoicing a PERSON...

This Guarda thing...

The applicant/plaintiff is a different Guard now. The one who clocked the car, not Pat Costello in the office. I'll scan the summons tomorrow Pete... It's 2 am here so going to get some sleep. Cheers for your time...

Invoice Pat for incompetency and this new Guarda for fraud or breach of trust. Share the excitement, Eamonn O Brien. Make sure you have the items you charge for on your schedule of fees.

And, get some sleep, man.

Right, here's the summons... It's text is a bit weak but is eligible.

1. MICHAEL P GIBLIN clocked the car and sent the details to PAT COSTELLO in the penalty processing office.

2. He issued the notice to EAMONN O BRIEN.

3. I responded with a Notice of Mistake.

4. PAT replied wishing to acknowledge receipt of my notice and did not answer any of the questions put to him therein.

5. I acknowledged his acceptance of my position as a party without surety and completed the bill of exchange and returned it.

Sometime afterwards Pat has failed to present it to THE CENTRAL BANK for discharge and the books therefore remain unbalanced. MICHAEL P GIBLIN therefore has sought to summon EAMONN O BRIEN to settle the matter.

So, my thoughts are that, MICHAEL P GIBLIN needs to be notified that payment was offered to a PAT COSTELLO and that there seems to be a discrepancy in their accounting.

I'll forward all the paperwork to GIBLIN showing him that I have attempted to settle this matter in good faith and that the matter is considered closed.

If he wishes for me to attend any administrative hearings then he will be billed for my time...

How does that all sound? :D

That sounds complicated :D

JUST BILL THEM, you are WAISTING your time over a settled matter......BILL THEM....

IT,s BUSINESS, so bill them !!!!! :D

I was just laying it out to clear it up for myself there... Ill keep it short and simple.

This matter is considered closed. See Pat Costello for details. Please find a fee schedule and bill for my time enclosed.

:D

Terms are pay upon receipt :P

I've no doubt the court case will still go ahead though. Is the point to dispute the outstanding bill before the court then?

Here's an exeample, Eamonn O Brien

You can also send the ACCOUNT STATEMENT at the same time

It's the same as the invoice, instead it says ACCOUNT STATEMENT at the top

And you just write

Invoice number: 123434 $15000.00

If they STILL want to make a business meeting on it, well, what can you do ? :/

You can go if you want, but the first question that should get out of your mouth is:

WHO WILL PAY ? ....because there's a unpaid BILL

SO, yes I want to participate to this business meeting, as the Sole Authorized Administrator for EAMONN, but WHO THE FUCK WILL PAY...I need to get paid in ADVANCE.....

in gold, at/on spot.

Pete, Scott

First draft of my response...

It's NOT a "court appearence" :-D

Should I just keep it broad like "Administrative Duties"

It's a businees meeting

Administrative Duties covers pretty much anything they would need me for... Attendance, speaking etc...

My time basically

Which is what's valuable and therefore I can charge for it...

I'll show you how to make an invoice later on. because you definitly suck at it :-D

I thought it would serve its purpose! :-P

How should I edit the invoice Pete? I've never issued one before... I want to get my response posted off this week... I'm away from the computer for a couple of hours now so I'll check back then...

I have posted an example in here, a few post up.... :/

I think its a bit blurred. Ill have another go...

*Administration fees for 1 hour ? :/

Be specific... :)

*Amount shown is per hour or any part thereof

Cheque should be made out to EAMONN O'BRIEN:IN TRUST and marked FOR DEPOSIT ONLY (make THEM write it :D ).

I'll be honest, the fear of being railroaded and made an example of is quite prominent... The meeting is set for a Friday morning and I can foresee the Justice ordering the ignorant cronies to take me away for the weekend...

Or, they might see that I'm a bit more educated than the average freeman, under god, claiming constitutional rights etc and throw the whole thing out...

Ok here are some tips to remember:

1: NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER ANSWER A QUESTION. EVER.

2: ASK QUESTIONS. The only STATEMENT you should make is "I'm here on that matter".

I have plenty of questions... Genuinely...

3: YOU ARE THERE ON SPECIAL APPEARANCE. MAKE THAT CLEAR BY ASKING IF ALL PRESENT UNDERSTAND that you are there on that matter, by special appearance.

When you SIGN IN, sign it *signature* : By Special Appearance.

I've been to court before, I've never had to sign in. Though the summons states in capital letters at the bottom

"PLEASE BRING YOUR LICENSE WITH YOU ON THE DAY AND A COPY FOR COURT RECORDS"

YOUR license... Come to our court and commit fraud before we get started...

Just approach the clerk and say you "wish to sign in". If he/she/it says you do not need to, repeat that you WISH to.

"Eamonn O Brien: I'll be honest, the fear of being railroaded and made an example of is quite prominent... The meeting is set for a Friday morning and I can foresee the Justice ordering the ignorant cronies to take me away for the weekend..." That is the only thing they have going for them Eamonn. Instilling that thought into you is prominent for them. Most will give in knowing that they will be able to go home if they pay. Eamonn wrote, "Or, they might see that I'm a bit more educated than the average freeman, under god, claiming constitutional rights etc and throw the whole thing out..." I'm sure that they will see an educated man looking for the surety. If it was me, Eamonn, I would not carry any identification on me. "PLEASE BRING YOUR LICENSE WITH YOU ON THE DAY AND A COPY FOR THE COURT RECORDS" Auuh, excuse me, but fuck you and the surety you rode in on! Again, this is me, I can defend this action in my way with my temper and attitude. "Who the fuck are you and where is the surety?" "Who the fuck has a claim against me?"

What is the relevance in signing in? Also, why do I need to tell them to make the cheque out "IN TRUST"?

Do not bring the license. State for and on the record that the license is NOT YOURS, and is in fact the PROPERTY OF THE GOVERNMENT, and it is merely IN YOUR CUSTODY. If they feel you should not have CUSTODY of THEIR LICENSE, then they are welcome to ask that it be returned to their custody, and you'll thank them for not attempting to induce/compel you to commit fraud, henceforth :D

Oh I definitely won't be bringing any license... That was never an issue...

Excerpt from the summons... Scandalous!

So I'll send my letter and invoice to the applicant, MICHAEL GIBLIN.

My guess is I won't hear anything back from that.

So is it in my interest to file copies of the relevant documents with the court also?

Just coming back to this lads... I'll send the invoice and letter to the Guard. Is there any need to send anything to the court yet or should I wait to see if the Guard replies?

So this is the final draft of the letter I'm going to send along with the invoice...

It's my first time dealing with a summons since joining the group so I want to make sure I've done everything correctly as it could serve as a means for teaching others here in Ireland...

I'll also send paperwork to the court file notifying them of the current situation...

Scott, Pete, Ceit... Cheers for your time...

Letter, Invoice and a copy of the summons posted today... I'll wait and see if there's any response and if not I'll send documents to the case file also...

Here's my first draft affidavit for the court file. I wanna make sure I'm as prepared as possible. I'll attach the relevant documents as the exhibits and have the affidavit witnessed by a commissioner of oaths.

I understand everyone has busy lives and my small problem here is next to irrelevant but if anyone can find the time to point out where I might be going wrong, if at all :p, so I'm not showing up on the day with my dick in my hand that'd be a great help.

If I am successful with having the case dismissed it could cement what I've been trying to teach people here in Ireland and could really get them listening...

Cheers guys. Hope people don't mind me tagging them...

Scott, Ceit, Pete, Chris, anyone who's been to court! :p

They need a trustee....that is why EAMONN is being summoned. They will do whatever necessary to get you to be the trustee. Remember....Scott said you have the right to demand all parties be present. That is how I will handle it next time.

It's not YOUR NAME. It's THEIRS. Legally YOU are the only PARTY AUTHORIZED to use it, but you are NOT the principal. You are merely AGENT.

I understand that. As you have said, I plan to state that I am there by special appearance and that I wish to sign in as such.

Should I stand my ground regarding the outstanding bill before the court or start asking questions?

I know there's a thousand ways it could go so it's difficult to plan but as I said it'll be me against ignorance in flashy jackets...

Would it not be conditional appearance in Ireland?

You will come to a point where you'll need to say:

Give me back this bill of exchange, if they are refused to settle this debt.

I bet you they will refuse to give them back, and then some very stupid discussion will start :D

You will face a WALL of stupid :D

Ask them this...

Are you SAVING them for some reasons ? :D

You can also ask this:

WHY do you SUSPEND THE FUCKING RUNNING AND/OR OPERATION OF this BILL OF EXCHANGE ?

You can also ask:

Do I have the right to INVOICE you for doing this ? :D

I'll definitely be asking about the whereabouts of the bill of exchange and why the debt wasn't discharged. By what authority has PAT COSTELLO not followed my instruction?

1). Give me back this bill of exchange, if they are refused to settle this debt.

2). Are you SAVING it for some reasons ?

3). WHY do you SUSPEND THE FUCKING RUNNING AND/OR OPERATION OF this BILL OF EXCHANGE ?

4). Do I have the right to INVOICE you for doing this ?

:D

If they give it back to you, and REFUSE it, there is no more debt, check out your bill of exchange act on this.

I understand that. payment refused is discharged debt

I might be able ta make it on the morning Eamonn O Brien. Would ye mind me being there?

If they keep saying they want to SAVE it, well prepare an invoice for the face value of this bill of exchange, plus fees (I still have no idea how much these fees would be) and give them that invoice, and ask for a check :D

Public building Lee...

I'll just have my questions ready and try to think on my feet as best I can... I know where I stand. I'll just be met with "Wha are you talking about?!" etc... I'll bring a BC for dispositioning also. See if it gets that far...

It,s not an easy game, Eamonn O Brien, Ice Hockey is way easier !! :)

I'll remain calm and try not to shit on their floor... :p

Be prepared...the second I got "I am here on that matter" out of my mouth, I was cuffed by three of their bouncers....

I'll make sure I have my Nikes on Chris :p

They will make you take your shoelaces out of them.... :-P

So maybe, instead of saying: "I am here on that matter" , the best thing to say is: "Is it a good idea if I reserve ALL rights in here? " :D

And until you get a YES or a NO, you keep repeating that shit ? :D

That's what I would do now, after my little experiment...

After my experiment, I would only go in there if I was dragged, but before that, I would administrate the Bill running its DUE COURSE

It seems these trustees are SUSPENDING THE FUCKING RUNNING AND/OR OPERATION OF this BILL OF EXCHANGE when they only have an undertaking of NOT doing that.

Notice of questions for the court shall be sent also...

What day is the case up again Eamonn?

Summons was posted there somewhere Bart

Yes, I'll find it, thanks. It looks like you are in good shape. I ll hopefully be in attendance, cant wait to see the look on there faces!

Got it Eamonn, thanks. I'm in london around then but will hopefully be back. ?

Where are you from Bart?

From a small town in sligo, lived in galway for 4/5 years, Australia for a year and now living in dublin the last 10 years or so. Are you from louth?

What look do you think will be on THEIR faces?

Anger and Confusion

Haha, I knew someone would bring up my misspelling.

I d say suprise Eamonn and they will get you out of court as quickly as possible

Or else lock you up ?

From my limited experience, dealing with the gardai and passport office officials on the renewal of the passport of the person I happen to have, I am of the opinion that your diligence shown in this thread and your paperwork submitted they will be quick to dismiss the charges against YOU