So they acknowledged receipt of the notice of mistake. They didn't rebut my position. I authorised the discharge and now they've issued a summons.
Are they playing dumb as regards to not presenting it to central bank?
Should I get an affidavit together along with the other documents? Either way the court date is set so I think filing with the clerk wouldn't hurt...
Bill the applicant/plaintiff?
"My position as administrator and a party without surety has already been established regarding this matter. If you require further assistance you will be liable for bill."
Something like that?
Just tell them the matter has been setrled, and you charge $3000 per hour if they want you to go to a business meeting over a settled matter, and you need to get paid in advance because you've heard that they usually don't pay their bills.....
Good, so tell them, add all the paperwork you've done so far, with an invoice for four hours minimum at $3000 per hour, to be paid in advance, and as soon as you receive the cheque, it will be a pleasure for you to attempt any business meeting..
Nope. Cash is still king for me at the moment... So mail the clerk with all the paperwork and notice of liability for a bill rather than an invoice as they haven't been notified before...
The applicant/plaintiff is a different Guard now. The one who clocked the car, not Pat Costello in the office. I'll scan the summons tomorrow Pete... It's 2 am here so going to get some sleep. Cheers for your time...
Invoice Pat for incompetency and this new Guarda for fraud or breach of trust. Share the excitement, Eamonn O Brien. Make sure you have the items you charge for on your schedule of fees.
Right, here's the summons... It's text is a bit weak but is eligible.
1. MICHAEL P GIBLIN clocked the car and sent the details to PAT COSTELLO in the penalty processing office.
2. He issued the notice to EAMONN O BRIEN.
3. I responded with a Notice of Mistake.
4. PAT replied wishing to acknowledge receipt of my notice and did not answer any of the questions put to him therein.
5. I acknowledged his acceptance of my position as a party without surety and completed the bill of exchange and returned it.
Sometime afterwards Pat has failed to present it to THE CENTRAL BANK for discharge and the books therefore remain unbalanced. MICHAEL P GIBLIN therefore has sought to summon EAMONN O BRIEN to settle the matter.
So, my thoughts are that, MICHAEL P GIBLIN needs to be notified that payment was offered to a PAT COSTELLO and that there seems to be a discrepancy in their accounting.
I'll forward all the paperwork to GIBLIN showing him that I have attempted to settle this matter in good faith and that the matter is considered closed.
If he wishes for me to attend any administrative hearings then he will be billed for my time...
How does that all sound? :D
I was just laying it out to clear it up for myself there... Ill keep it short and simple.
This matter is considered closed. See Pat Costello for details. Please find a fee schedule and bill for my time enclosed.
You can also send the ACCOUNT STATEMENT at the same time
It's the same as the invoice, instead it says ACCOUNT STATEMENT at the top
And you just write
Invoice number: 123434 $15000.00
You can go if you want, but the first question that should get out of your mouth is:
WHO WILL PAY ? ....because there's a unpaid BILL
SO, yes I want to participate to this business meeting, as the Sole Authorized Administrator for EAMONN, but WHO THE FUCK WILL PAY...I need to get paid in ADVANCE.....
How should I edit the invoice Pete? I've never issued one before... I want to get my response posted off this week... I'm away from the computer for a couple of hours now so I'll check back then...
I'll be honest, the fear of being railroaded and made an example of is quite prominent... The meeting is set for a Friday morning and I can foresee the Justice ordering the ignorant cronies to take me away for the weekend...
Or, they might see that I'm a bit more educated than the average freeman, under god, claiming constitutional rights etc and throw the whole thing out...
3: YOU ARE THERE ON SPECIAL APPEARANCE. MAKE THAT CLEAR BY ASKING IF ALL PRESENT UNDERSTAND that you are there on that matter, by special appearance.
When you SIGN IN, sign it *signature* : By Special Appearance.
I've been to court before, I've never had to sign in. Though the summons states in capital letters at the bottom
"PLEASE BRING YOUR LICENSE WITH YOU ON THE DAY AND A COPY FOR COURT RECORDS"
"Eamonn O Brien: I'll be honest, the fear of being railroaded and made an example of is quite prominent... The meeting is set for a Friday morning and I can foresee the Justice ordering the ignorant cronies to take me away for the weekend..."
That is the only thing they have going for them Eamonn. Instilling that thought into you is prominent for them. Most will give in knowing that they will be able to go home if they pay.
Eamonn wrote, "Or, they might see that I'm a bit more educated than the average freeman, under god, claiming constitutional rights etc and throw the whole thing out..."
I'm sure that they will see an educated man looking for the surety.
If it was me, Eamonn, I would not carry any identification on me.
"PLEASE BRING YOUR LICENSE WITH YOU ON THE DAY AND A COPY FOR THE COURT RECORDS"
Auuh, excuse me, but fuck you and the surety you rode in on!
Again, this is me, I can defend this action in my way with my temper and attitude.
"Who the fuck are you and where is the surety?"
"Who the fuck has a claim against me?"
Do not bring the license. State for and on the record that the license is NOT YOURS, and is in fact the PROPERTY OF THE GOVERNMENT, and it is merely IN YOUR CUSTODY. If they feel you should not have CUSTODY of THEIR LICENSE, then they are welcome to ask that it be returned to their custody, and you'll thank them for not attempting to induce/compel you to commit fraud, henceforth :D
So I'll send my letter and invoice to the applicant, MICHAEL GIBLIN.
My guess is I won't hear anything back from that.
So is it in my interest to file copies of the relevant documents with the court also?
Just coming back to this lads... I'll send the invoice and letter to the Guard. Is there any need to send anything to the court yet or should I wait to see if the Guard replies?
So this is the final draft of the letter I'm going to send along with the invoice...
It's my first time dealing with a summons since joining the group so I want to make sure I've done everything correctly as it could serve as a means for teaching others here in Ireland...
I'll also send paperwork to the court file notifying them of the current situation...
Scott, Pete, Ceit... Cheers for your time...
Letter, Invoice and a copy of the summons posted today... I'll wait and see if there's any response and if not I'll send documents to the case file also...
Here's my first draft affidavit for the court file. I wanna make sure I'm as prepared as possible. I'll attach the relevant documents as the exhibits and have the affidavit witnessed by a commissioner of oaths.
I understand everyone has busy lives and my small problem here is next to irrelevant but if anyone can find the time to point out where I might be going wrong, if at all :p, so I'm not showing up on the day with my dick in my hand that'd be a great help.
If I am successful with having the case dismissed it could cement what I've been trying to teach people here in Ireland and could really get them listening...
Cheers guys. Hope people don't mind me tagging them...
Scott, Ceit, Pete, Chris, anyone who's been to court! :p
They need a trustee....that is why EAMONN is being summoned. They will do whatever necessary to get you to be the trustee. Remember....Scott said you have the right to demand all parties be present. That is how I will handle it next time.
I understand that. As you have said, I plan to state that I am there by special appearance and that I wish to sign in as such.
Should I stand my ground regarding the outstanding bill before the court or start asking questions?
I'll definitely be asking about the whereabouts of the bill of exchange and why the debt wasn't discharged. By what authority has PAT COSTELLO not followed my instruction?
1). Give me back this bill of exchange, if they are refused to settle this debt.
2). Are you SAVING it for some reasons ?
3). WHY do you SUSPEND THE FUCKING RUNNING AND/OR OPERATION OF this BILL OF EXCHANGE ?
4). Do I have the right to INVOICE you for doing this ?
:D
If they keep saying they want to SAVE it, well prepare an invoice for the face value of this bill of exchange, plus fees (I still have no idea how much these fees would be) and give them that invoice, and ask for a check :D
I'll just have my questions ready and try to think on my feet as best I can... I know where I stand. I'll just be met with "Wha are you talking about?!" etc... I'll bring a BC for dispositioning also. See if it gets that far...
It seems these trustees are SUSPENDING THE FUCKING RUNNING AND/OR OPERATION OF this BILL OF EXCHANGE when they only have an undertaking of NOT doing that.
From my limited experience, dealing with the gardai and passport office officials on the renewal of the passport of the person I happen to have, I am of the opinion that your diligence shown in this thread and your paperwork submitted they will be quick to dismiss the charges against YOU