If it were me, I'd go for the second option...

Will this be the ORIGINAL ? :D

From what the director said, ORIGINAL it will be !!

I would use the mail myself.

Whoah! Good for you Will Bed :) Option 2 brother.

Option 1 :P

So would you be going as the PERSON Capitaine Pete? :P Would make for good sport though. I wonder how these fucktars would respond when NOTICED them that you "have" the PERSON lol! I bet you'll end up at Option 2 :D

What will you do with the note once you have it in your hand?

Honestly, meeting them face to face to tell them the TRUTH has been growing on me these past few weeks... I think I'd gladly walk in there as the MAN who has THE PERSON WB, and ask them LIVE to send it to the PERSON, registered mail... Steve McCall that will be where the fun begins. That note is worth 20 000$ and I'm gonna find the best way to benefit from it and teach others.

SCHEDULING A SKYPE GROUP CALL with Scott tonight to discuss this topic, Who's in ?

I would like to, when will it be?

Depends who wants in and when they'd be ready... Me, i'd need an hour or so...

I'm not ready for about 3 hours

I am trying to fix the skype account....fuck...

Feeler : 10pm eastern time ?

Who's the "host" and what's the number?

I knew you would complicate this, Beverly :P

I've only used skype to phone.

Ok, I think I am all set, Call me someone, I want to make sure this thing works....

Will Bed, if you get those legal tenders, I suggest you collapse them. PayPal accepts bitcoin now, its the end of legal tender for peonage and centralized institutions. The Boatswains call can barerly be heard over the cannon fire, it's time to board the private side.

Would like to here this. My skype is howard579

That's more like it Aladdin!

I found 5 Pete Daoust

Captain.Daoust :P

k, added u

beverly.braaksma �when the call is on, add me

adrian.thomson4 is my Skype id :)

me ChrisEvan12

Me : willbed

wise.approach is mine

Are we going to do this?

sharpcanadian

I set up my account. How do I join?

michaelatkins947

Contact AQUILAE.LAB we're chatting now

Add me... steviemccall

steve add AQUILAE.LAB as a contact in skype

I cannut make dhe feken skype work!

Thanks so much for your time Scott.

oh man stupid time zones :(. i hope someone recorded the call.

I did not... It was a 6hrs+ call... We discussed quite a few different topics... VERY INTERESTING call !! In regards to this topic, Scott explained that they should be instructed to send the note back registered mail, and that ME walking in there would be accepting their jurisdiction... We discussed that if they INDEED return the original note, that would mean they most certainly had to absorb a loss for the 32 fold fractionally reserved amount that'd now be backed by the note... And they'd be pissed, and they'll most certainly be on the lookout for that note to hit back the financial markets or see whatever happens with it... Let's see how things go from here ! I'll obviously keep you guys updated on this :)

Keep pushing Will! We're all watching.

Fuck....I fell asleep and missed it. :-/

Too bad this call wasn't recorded. So much value and grateful to see the TTFL come together for this :D I think it was my first time hearing your voice Admiral Scott and yet for some fucking reason last nights call was some sort of deja vu and I can't figure out why :/

It started earlier than Will's "feeler time" of 10Eastern

But, I'd love to do that again! :)

David-Paul Sip, this call was CERTAINLY recorded :D

Well then Capitaine Pete I would love to access the recording because I have a notepad to fill with value :D

Ask AQUILAE :P

There's not much to retain.... Will Bed's going to get his valuable instrument back. He have found a buyer. That instrument will show up in some singapour's market. Some fucktards will go nuts. Will will receive some unwanted visitors. They will ask some funny questions. Will will say, I AM NOT AUTHORIZED TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. Then Will will teach others.... :D

Oh, and a certain corp in Ontario by the name of ESC CTRL, has NO board of Directors :D

And Adrian Thomson looks like a Taliban :P

And Gilles Daoust, and/or Joseph Daoust, and/or Pierre Daoust, offered ECS CTRL to be on their board of Directors :D

I spoke with Gilles, this morning, and he LOVES being on Boards of Director.... :D

Thanks Pete... Taliban, lol.... I've not had anyone make that remark to me before. I usually get the "dirty construction worker" kind of comment... :D

So according to the Equifax website, there are 6 notes I should get returned, for a combined total of 350,000.00.... So that would mean that the banks would have to collapse over 11 million in fiat to return them....

The exponential function was covered last night too.

And you just pointed out, with this 350k / 11 millions :-D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZCm2QQZVYk

Oh man. That is exciting Adrian.

Yes the exponential fuction and collapsing debt at 32X the note value excites me greatly :D

:-O I can't believe I missed this!

Good for you Will. A real victory!

Will Bed do you have a copy of the letter you sent requesting that promissory note back? I recently sold my house, paying my mortgage back in full and i would like to pursue this. Just not sure the best way to word my letter.... any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Greg, I actually sent them 6 or 7 communications over a 6 months period... This case, I started it all by requesting a simple account statement PROVING a loan contract ever existed, created XX/XX/2007 which was fully honored by the PERSON on XX/XX/2009. They provided that account statement. I then asked if they still had the original PROMISSORY NOTE which I signed as CREDITOR, which they received, and was used as a SECURITY for the amount created. They accepted to provide a CONFORM COPY of said document. At this point, I had PROOF that - at some point in time - they did have that document in their possession. I played stupid and told them I might need the ORIGINAL document they just photocopied and stamped, so dont lose it... Then they said they COULD NOT provide to me the ORIGINAL document from which they made the CONFORM COPY they sent to the PERSON. A lady called, bullshitted me random crap like they never received a PROMISSORY NOTE, then that they did NOT have to return THEIR original, then they had to send it to a special place, crap like that... I insisted again... I told reminded them that the document was not THEIRS, that they HAD to RETURN it, and since it seemed they may be interested in making it THEIR ASSET, I conditionally offered to sell it to them and I included an invoice for full amount, which they had to settle... At this point, they sent what seemed like a notary deliver a communication threatening to CHARGE the PERSON for all their expenses related to this case... All that kinda was the easy part. As I was telling Scott, I ALWAYS make sure I remind them of all the FACTS, rebut all their bullshit CLAIMS with FACTS, and remind them of every LEGAL obligation they have to honor and WHY I'm doing what I'm doing... I found that asking questions they are required to answer, tight questions, like Blablabla ? This (A) or This (B) answer ? Because if (A), then blablabla, and Because if (B), then blablabla, and In both cases, you must blablabla... Always cover all angles... These suckers will try to hide under every rock you may leave unturned... Now, I'm not here to give you the answers, but all the tools you need are in : Bank act Bills of exchange act Financial administration act Criminal code of Canada They also cited the "Loi sur la protection du consommateur" which we have here in Quebec, but even by that law, they were fucked by article 101... As long as you understand that they illegally kept a NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT which is NOT THEIRS and which is worth WHATEVER AMOUNT IT WAS SIGNED FOR, you should be able to word your letter properly. Write it up and post it here... Oh, and Keep It Simple Stupid ! Dont be afraid to sound like an ignorant guy asking questions. Remember whoever gonna read that first letter is most certainly more ignorant than you are ! You dont wanna scare them too bad right off the bat ;)

From what I'm reading about mortgages and car loans, once it's paid off sometimes the "lender" will write "paid in full" or "cancelled" on the promissory note and return it to the "borrower", and it's a good idea to demand this, as you seem to have done. http://www.washingtonpost.com/realestate/paid-off-your-mortgage-congratulations-but-there-are-still-some-things-you-need-to-do/2012/07/26/gJQA3KZp9W_story.html http://people.opposingviews.com/proof-pay-off-mortgage-5106.html I wonder if you should do the same when you close a credit card account to prevent them monetizing it as an asset indefinitely...

:)

I am so happy, I have met Will Bed, at one point..... :D HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!....wwweeeeee!!!!!!! :D

OK Pete Doust, I am confused about these board of directors, I thought (not well apparently) the holding company (trustee) was to be a sole propritorship. Perhaps a thread on this specific topic would help me and the others confused on this point. I know I am making mistakes and I need to fix this shit so I don't mislead others.

The holding company is a PERSON. A PERSON needs to be ADMINISTRATED...

I think my mistake is setting up ESC CTRL inc (Trustee) as a sole proprietary, holding company. I mistakenly thought I could hire an administrator as required to Administrate the Trust and/or the affairs of the person to which it would hold power of attorney. I mistakenly thought I could be the Director for ESC CTRL inc, hire a Trustee and accountant as required. My understanding is that Far Arden Trust is just a piece of paper and no one's business. Being the beneficiary of Far Arden Trust, I am not authorized to answer any questions. Should any questions arise ESC CTRL would take the helm as power of attorney and/or Trustee and or administrator. Other than that "it's just a fucking piece of paper" What the fuck am I missing?

It is my understanding that as Director For ESC CTRL I could hire any Derek Moran to ACT as Trustee to address any matters.

Or a Pierre Daoust !! :D

I am sure I could Trust this Pierre Daoust :P , that trust does not correct the mistakes in my thinking. Why does ESC CTRL need a board of Directors when I can hire this Pierre Daoust guy to Administrate the trust when required?

Fuck.... :(

9111-1111 Quebec Inc Board of DIRECTORS�. :D Gail Blackman Will Bed Scott Duncan Gilles Daoust Joseph Daoust David Vilacia Chris Evan Kent Barrett Dean Clifford :D Lou ILLUMINATI John Smith All AUTHORIZED Agents :P Any Objections ??? :D

well fuck me

Ok... :D

The phone rings at ECS CTRL .... The AGENT answering the phone goes like this.... Gilles Daoust good afternoon !!! WHO THE FUCK WILL CARE ???? :D

what a brain fuck, best ever Pete Daoust

Do you think that WHEN I call these fucking agencies, the agents answering their fucking phone has to SHOW ME THEIR FUCKING ID's ? FUCK OFF... :D

Call me David Vilaca, I'll show you :-D

no answer

skype?

No....9111-1111 Quebec Inc has no skype :P

oh fuck, Dean Clifford, LMFAO

:D

on the Board

and I get the point, it does not matter, its a piece of paper

Can this be done with a student loan? Or are those loans different in any way?

I guess that's a stupid question. I just thought about it. It is still royal bank who is acting as g the currency exchange. Or RBC rather.

make sure its the original not a copy

So... I stopped by the bank today, and asked the lady at the front desk if she could ask the General Manager "There's a man who has a Person here and he wants to know why you havent been returning his calls"... His secretary showed up with the documents, saying it's been waiting to be picked up since late september...

They found it?

credit unions are different than banks....I suspect that is why they still have it

I spoke with a manager at a credit union yesterday, they do not loan unless they have the deposits to enable them to do so...according to her

you know what to do with that now Will ;)

That's awesome.

I finished off paying a car loan this year and I should follow your lead Will, it might help me understand more, well done you.

it appears that they did not sell it down the road

Desjardins is a credit union, they work differently than banks I think

If I'm not mistaken, receiving the promissory note back is more valuable than the replacement value for the note. The promissory note is lawful money vs the replacement value would be fiat

Take a look Admiral Scott since this is what started our weekly TTFL chats :D

What would you have done if they told you they destroyed it after you were finished paying the debt?

Destroying a promissory note is a CRIME. Plus they'd have been under the obligation to pay the amount invoiced or I might have had to learn how to lien a bank...

I've been trying to locate some more information about this...... I need to send an invoice, but want to do it right the first time.

Criminal code 340. b)

340. Every one who, for a fraudulent purpose, destroys, cancels, conceals or obliterates (a) a document of title to goods or lands, (b) a valuable security or testamentary instrument, or (c) a judicial or official document, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years.

In my case, they tell me it's their policy to destroy the original promissory note after it has been paid off.

BANK of MONTREAL

Ask them if it's their policy to destroy a document that must LEGALLY be returned to the PERSON who signed it once that PERSON honored all of its LEGAL obligations, and ask them for any proof they may have to support any pretention they may have that the Criminal Code might not apply to them ??

Ask for a copy of that policy signed by an agent.

Or I guess that's silly. Fuck I was about to pull a Derek Moran

Good thread Will Bed. I had a car loan with Anglo Irish Bank (Defunct Irish Bank now called IBRC - Due to be wound up in March 2015) which I applied for and received in 2005 and repaid in full in 2010 with interest. I will start the same process that Will has excellently demonstrated in this thread. The amount of the loan is �5,000. I have a question of Admiral Scott Duncan on how the same process could be implemented on a commercial loan with the company I work had and fully repaid. Could the same process with the same bank be initiated on behalf of the company by an AUTHORISED ADMINISTRATOR? The loan was transferred from IBRC (IRISH BANKING RESOLUTION CORPORATION) to NAMA, (National Asset Management Agency) and fully repaid. If the promissory note can be successfully retrieved the impact on Irish and European Banking system may be substantial and also for the potential of the issuance of a large amount of Lapdancecoins :P