Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 1:40 PM
http://globalnews.ca/news/1519628/want-to-shed-u-s-citizenship-get-in-line/


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John Smith

Aug 31, 2014 1:49 PM
PUBLIC NOTICE


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 2:34 PM
...so why am I the only one noticing?


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John Smith

Aug 31, 2014 2:37 PM
Interesting that the Treasury is required to file a report on those who renounce citizenship..


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Vicky Logozar

Aug 31, 2014 2:54 PM
is the debt extinguished upon successful renunciation?


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 2:55 PM
No... you have to pay the bill they give you, first.


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Vicky Logozar

Aug 31, 2014 2:56 PM
and those are the fees they're asking for?


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 2:59 PM
No, that's ON TOP of the fee. They will bill you for ALL ASSETS first, AS IF YOU HAD SOLD THEM.


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John Smith

Aug 31, 2014 2:59 PM
As if you had Owned them anyway.


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Eamonn O Brien

Aug 31, 2014 3:04 PM
Assets as in property registered to the name?


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Maximus Legis

Aug 31, 2014 3:09 PM
Understatement of great magnitude I know but WHAT A FUCKED UP CUNTRY !


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Vicky Logozar

Aug 31, 2014 3:14 PM
if a significant # of people renounce their citizenship and the assets are sold...the underlying assets backing the debt decrease...the value of the debt must go down...isn't that deflationary?..the FEDs worst nightmare.


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 3:16 PM
I don't think you grasp the scale of the debt.


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Vicky Logozar

Aug 31, 2014 3:17 PM
for sure I don't...can't wrap my head around it


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 3:19 PM
There won't be deflation until about $300,000 is squeezed out of every American. In 2009, that number was $35,000


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Vicky Logozar

Aug 31, 2014 3:23 PM
for how much longer can they keep that type of debt expansion going?


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 3:26 PM
For as long as other nations buy the debt! http://youtu.be/EPdHq9CdqtI?t=1h14m4s


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Maximus Legis

Aug 31, 2014 3:30 PM
When you create a note for a credit facility be it a loan, mortgage or credit card you are making a promise to pay (promissory note) in the future backed by yourself. Nothing else, therein lays the FRAUD .


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 3:32 PM
Vicky... watch Money as Debt 3! Your questions reveal that you don't grasp money yet! :P


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Maximus Legis

Aug 31, 2014 3:33 PM
^^^ Seeing as I have a fucked up memory , shit stain above to be removed Scott Duncan?


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 3:33 PM
http://youtu.be/_dwL9lqVBxY?list=PLBC9892E126590682


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Maximus Legis

Aug 31, 2014 3:43 PM
When a "debtor" makes a claim against one, how about serving notice saying " Bring the original debt instrument which I allegedly completed to my home so that I may settle the alleged obligation and destroy the debt instrument in your presence or fuck off?. Stupid suggestion ?


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 3:50 PM
Yes...very stupid.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 31, 2014 3:51 PM
"There won't be deflation until about $300,000 is squeezed out of every American. In 2009, that number was $35,000" That's crazy shit, almost science fiction shit... :D


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Maximus Legis

Aug 31, 2014 3:52 PM
Scott Duncan because it's been sold on or just plain stupid ?


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 3:54 PM
Debt in 2009 was 10 TRILLION. There are LESS THAN 1 trillion STARS IN OUR GALAXY. ...let that sink in. The numbers just get more retarded. The thing about playing "musical chairs" is that there is no loser, as long as the music is playing. THAT is current monetary policy these days, in a nutshell.


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Maximus Legis

Aug 31, 2014 3:54 PM
^^^ FFS, I need to share that :-) Is that U.S debt in case I misquote you Scott Duncan ?


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 4:18 PM
Yes. US only...and that was 2009.


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 4:18 PM
Watch IOUSA. This is the GAO saying this.


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Scott Duncan

Aug 31, 2014 4:22 PM
What?


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David Vilaca

Aug 31, 2014 5:26 PM
Made me LOL, "Someone wanting to renounce U.S. citizenship must go to an embassy or consulate outside the United States, meet with a consular officer and swear that they �absolutely and entirely renounce [their] United States nationality together with all rights and privileges and all duties and allegiance and fidelity thereunto pertaining.�


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David Vilaca

Aug 31, 2014 5:36 PM
There is no FREE LUNCH, Murica


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Eamonn O Brien

Aug 31, 2014 5:42 PM
I watched IOUSA. The part about the country borrowing money by selling bonds/securities helped my understanding of money... Without people a country is just a geographical location. With people it's a geographical location that can produce value so Governments had to monetise people in order to have something that represented value to sell... The security known as the person and the value contributed to it... Thus explaining why it's bad to contribute value to the person as it provides fuel for a corrupt government.... If it's hard you're doing it wrong... ;)


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Pete Daoust

Aug 31, 2014 5:44 PM
The person is a slave, and it needs to be treated as such.... :-P


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Eamonn O Brien

Aug 31, 2014 5:47 PM
This is why crypto currencies are such a serious threat and the continuing police state is becoming more apparent...


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Pete Daoust

Aug 31, 2014 5:48 PM
Crypto currencies is a treat to SLAVERY.....


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Eamonn O Brien

Aug 31, 2014 5:49 PM
^Edit


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David Johansen

Sep 01, 2014 6:00 AM
how can i renounce something that to the best of my knowledge I never accepted in the first place?


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Mike Lamb

Sep 01, 2014 2:51 PM
How can you renounce something that does not truly exist?


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Rodrigo Dan Darius

Sep 02, 2014 2:44 AM
You accepted it by your actions. An implied contract... That's what they'll argue I presume... (Just thinking out loud) ... they railroad you anyway. Damage a security or two. :D


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Rodrigo Dan Darius

Sep 02, 2014 2:51 AM
And Pete would say: "The person is a slave, and it needs to be treated as such.... :P "


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Sep 02, 2014 4:43 AM
Why would they care if YOU renounced citizenship? The PERSON is still theirs and they will still benefit from it. JUST STOP USING IT, period.


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