Pete Daoust

Aug 25, 2014 2:46 AM
A corporation of some sort.... :-D


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Will Bed

Aug 25, 2014 2:55 AM
The crown in right of = the government... Their district must be whatever area covered by the jurisdiction they work for... What's the area a district attorney claims authority over ?? Full state or smaller parts ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 25, 2014 2:59 AM
The CROWN corporation.... That thing https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0000230098&owner=exclude&count=40&hidefilings=0


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Pete Daoust

Aug 25, 2014 3:01 AM
CANADA CIK#: 0000230098 (see all company filings) "see all COMPANY filings" :D


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David Vilaca

Aug 25, 2014 5:27 AM
I think it's District of Columbia, but I have no clue really


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Anibal Jose Baez

Aug 25, 2014 10:31 AM
The goverment claims jurisdiction over the NAME, but the law society (via the ATTORNEYS) claims, magically, jurisdiction over the BODY, the HUMAN.


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T?lis B?auns

Aug 25, 2014 12:09 PM
1993 In Canada the BAR association changed their oath from aiding ANYONE in Canada to aiding PERSONS. Because of NAFTA.


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Chris Evan

Aug 25, 2014 12:25 PM
NAFTA, eh? That was also about the time time that Bush Sr signed an EO putting up infrastructure held by the united States for sale.


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T?lis B?auns

Aug 25, 2014 12:34 PM
EO? Executive offer? ;) The European Union had a "constitution" that got rammed down the participants/citizens throats.


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Chris Evan

Aug 25, 2014 12:34 PM
Sorry...Executive Order


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Chris Evan

Aug 25, 2014 12:35 PM
One of those things that dictators write for their subjects.


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Chris � S�illeabh�in

Aug 25, 2014 12:46 PM
Great thread, Chris Evan. Why can't you just fill out a form or make one, notifying the government that you are power of attorney of the name ?


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Chris Evan

Aug 25, 2014 12:56 PM
I think that can only be done by pledging fealty to a different jurisdiction. I think that here, CHRIS is domiciled in the DISTRICT, but RESides in Massachusetts. I think the only way to correct that is with a new pledge. Their clubhouse rules says something to the effect that one is considered a citizen or national of the DISTRICT until one pledges allegiance to another jurisdiction. Scott seems to have pledged to Aquillae and Aquillae seems to have a connection to the sovereign. I am not sure how that works up there, but here, folks pledge to the de jure States of the Republic. I am thinking of how to do that through a trust....


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David Vilaca

Aug 25, 2014 1:07 PM
Grant every thing to the Trust. Hire a Trustee under oath and contract to protect the trust. As first Director for your trust holding company, you and the (temporary) Trustee pledge to uphold the charter and by laws of said trust holding company. Whom ever you hire to be trustee can fall back on "it's not my fault I'm just following the rules of an Organization.


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Chris � S�illeabh�in

Aug 25, 2014 1:32 PM
Well I know for sure, we have a private central bank for the country. That the country is registered as a business in the District of Columbia. UNITED STATES. As for pledging to a trust. I don't think we have one here in relation to the sovereign. I know a few people tried to use the Cesti Que trust. I didn't bother with that.


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Chris Evan

Aug 25, 2014 1:35 PM
Here, the PEOPLE are sovereign...of course the people means the State. The collective State of the Republic is sovereign and the holder of that is the Congress....ALLEGEDLY. I am not sure how it works elsewhere...


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Chris Evan

Aug 25, 2014 1:39 PM
Here, the Republican States have been empty since 1868....


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T?lis B?auns

Aug 25, 2014 1:39 PM
Multi dimentional loyalties and how many are members of the BAR, or other secret societies. who are the people they represent?


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David Vilaca

Aug 25, 2014 1:42 PM
Chris, you are still focused on the club house rules, why not write your own laws?


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David Vilaca

Aug 25, 2014 1:44 PM
BY-LAWS a. The Director/Trustee, Agents and employees of ESC CTRL are mandated by pledge to protect the rights, privacy and integrity of FAR ARDEN TRUST, its BENEFICIARY/S and interests. b. All offices/officers/agents are prescribed at the discretion of the Beneficiary and shall be hired by the Beneficiary at the Beneficiaries discretion. c. The rights, privacy and integrity of the Beneficiary, security of the person and all other interests in, for or on behalf of, DAVID FERNANDES VILACA and/or FAR ARDEN TRUST shall be administered by, ESC CTRL.


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Chris � S�illeabh�in

Aug 25, 2014 1:46 PM
Chris Evan have you read the Usury doc Scott shared. Great read.


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Chris Evan

Aug 25, 2014 1:47 PM
Not sure...post it here


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Chris Evan

Aug 25, 2014 1:47 PM
David, I can not get my head around that. Where is the enforcement?


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T?lis B?auns

Aug 25, 2014 1:53 PM
Regarding NAFTA and The FEDERAL Court located next to the Prime Minister's Office,Ottawa (Nota Bene. -. The Corporation of the City of Ottawa is located on unceded Algonquin native land) "The Dicey doctrine is the foundation in case law of how authority made their/ your own citizens into enemy combatants. This started by oppressing those Irish because they were disloyal subjects and it was applied onto the rest of England in order to oppress union rights [for example] In Canada the atrocities of our Native Residential schools were modeled on basically the same premises as Dicey's Irish Residential School system at that time.This case law of creating a contract court to execute official policy of the governor in power became the foundation of what Hitler did to handle his undesirables AND frankly the Harper Regime (current Canadian Prime Minister) is repeating the same tactic by giving the FEDERAL COURT jurisdiction to rule over 'those classes of persons' under s-55 of the CDSA [aka - Harper's undesirables] This Dicey doctrine was applied across England as 'quasi-legal' in order to uphold contracts that the government entered into with banksters who [for example then bankrupted England with WW1 debts which instituted those quasi-legal MARITIME COURTS-[S 15 CC Obedience to defacto law} This uncodified case law was used in in order to impose this quasi-legal court system onto Canada under the Colonial Act AND then in 1933 when the IRS bankrupted the USA which converted the citizens into enemy combatants and this was fully codified as a North American "POLICE STATE with NAFTA 1993. After 25 years of entrenching this POLICY under the Charter [UK Canada Constitution Act] has resulted in a situation where all Public officials are expected in law to be in direct violation of their oaths in order to do their job. So their solution was to make all oaths meaningless in the 1988 POLICE ACT AND it's all made possible by "we the people" accepting that this is the way it always was.We've become automatons of misery and it's all caused by fraudulent public debt [Jefferson]" http://www.scribd.com/doc/225921602/Dicey-Doctrine


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David Vilaca

Aug 26, 2014 1:40 AM
Chris, "Where is the enforcement?" through the courts, where else are LEGAL FICTIONS recognized? only your legal fiction (the trust) can be recognized as having standing as the man cannot be a LEGAL FICTION. The Courts only deal in LEGAL FICTIONS.


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