They really have no fucking Idea.... :-D
I've been asking question to the health care, to avoid create joinder with that insurance card with pictures, they NEVER answered the one question posed....I have asked 4 times via registered mail....
Ok.....here is the story....
Dec. 2013: I receive a letter from the Health Care departement, asking to renew the insurance health care card, and to renew the picture of my face on it. On this renewal form, there is a section where they ask DATE OF BIRTH.
Dec.2013: I send them a letter, asking to confirm to me in writing, which date of birth they want, mine which is feb. the 19th ? ....or the person I happen to have, which is March the 6th.
The reason I asked that question is because, it seems to me, that it's the PERSON who is insured, and not me the man.....I literally explained that to them, in writing......I also told them that I will NOT argue what they will put in WRITING, I am just going to do EXACTLY what they are telling me to do...
So guess what ?.....no answer, so I sent a second, a third and a fourth letter......explaining them that until they respond, I have NO insurance card, and it's THEIR FAULT, and they are fully liable for any prejudices that might cause....
So I go to the hospital, showing that EXPIRED card, and they've managed to get an extension on it, I don't really know how, and booked me for an operation TODAY, july the 31st
So I say to the girl at the body repair counter, fuck them, I WILL PAY, I explain to her that I have no problem PAYING for cars repairs, so I really have no problem PAYING for my body repair... :D
Magic! You fucking see how important this card is. You don't even need a valid card because they can just extend it to INSURE (misspelt with intent) they get paid. LOL!
Ask her to look it up in the fucking fee schedule....yes they have one. It's what they use to charge the province. The fees they charge are set by the province. Then ask her what are the fees they charge for privately :D
An hour later, she say, we had to cancel your operation, we will call you to re schedule a date, and in the mean time, fix your insurance card issue.....I said....WHY.....I WANT TO PAY, and I will pay you in ADVANCE !!!!!!!!!
When my wife went in to a private clinic for an ultrasound she was asked for her health card. Being a little shit I asked if they had a fee schedule if I did not have a health card. "Yes we do" and they told me they charge the same fee that they charge to the province. This seems to me to suggest they could charge a different fee if they choose.
Chris Evan, they want JOINDER from me......tI offer, AGAIN, TO PAY FOR MY FUCKING STUFF......they just don't want me to be INDEPENDENT, they want me to NEED them..... :D
Now, I am NOT sure if my life is in peril, but according to the doctor, I really need these two hernia to get fixed, because if they explode inside of me, that could be messy :D
So if they are refusing me to pay to fix them, what's the fuck up !!??
2. Every human being whose life is in peril has a right to assistance.
Every person must come to the aid of anyone whose life is in peril, either personally or calling for aid, by giving him the necessary and immediate physical assistance, unless it involves danger to himself or a third person, or he has another valid reason.
Janick, the counter where I was, was literally IN the bloc operatoire, and I was going there to get an operation....I was really sure to get operate this morning, I was NOT prepaired for that fuck up..... :(
Well, I tried very hard this morning, I had a friend ready to come at the hospital, with a hockey bag, filled with debt notes, to PAY IN ADVANCE for this fucking reparation....I also had a credit card ready, in my hand.....I was in full COOPERATION mode :D
Ey, Captain this isn't the time to be a martyr now. The drones won't answer a lot of my questions here either. They either look dumbfounded or repeat some variation of the script they were programmed with.
But woulnt they be Liable for any damages cause to you they did Refused to treat you even tho you are Willing to pay and the pretext that they dont know how much it cost is complete bullshit i went 7 years whithout a medicare card and i got injured to my arm i had to pay a small fee to each of my visits like the doctor rate and the plastre to go around my arm total cost 80$ and it was in cowanville quebec when i was fix up so whats make you any different than me while i had no medicare card
I would say that playing on their game pad means you gotta comply to the rules or find systemic loopholes like paying with the SURETY of your PERSON, please note that I mean loophole have not something negative but something they didn't want you to find out.
Or find a place where they take cash. For exemple, Ontario. They have 2 speed systems there, unsure if you need to be resident tho.
Focus on getting better the rest will come. My boy broke his arm, needed emergency surgery and hospital stay ambulance rides and follow up visits. I planned to be responsible for all expenses even though I had no I idea where I could get the money to pay it off. I stayed positive and know the universe will never give me more then I can handle. With that being said, a week later we got a letter in the mail, apparently from some company bc I hadn't been able to add my boy to my company insurence. They ended up waiving all bills. I paid out 500$ on a 40k+ bill. Trust and believe
Yes, they are suppose to call me, to book another date, so I will settle the MONEY issue on the phone with them... :)
I am writing a letter, as we speak, to the health care department.... :D
Kevin Stephens allow me to be the first in this group to call you an idiot. :D
"I stayed positive and know the universe will never give me more then I can handle." - REALLY? It's idiotic things like that, which allow criminals to rule your life.
Dump that belief NOW.
You aren't "special".
You know what bullshit phrases like "I stayed positive and know the universe will never give me more then I can handle" are good for?
Captioning photos ironically.
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So Pete, WHO will account for the damages and the fraud being perpetrated? Did you get a name or will you go to the Deputy Rapist. There must be an AGENCY that provide assurance for that hospital.
David Vilaca, I am writing to the health care office, as we speak, my goal is NOT to hit them with some shit, my goal and INTENT is for them to say to me IN WRITING, that me, the man, I am the BENEFICIARY of that insured person, and that is WHY "my" date of birth should be written on this renewal thing, and the picture they need, is to identity the BENEFICIARY of the insured person. :D
If they persist on NOT responding, I will have 9111-1111 Quebec Inc PAY for this operation, and then 9111-1111 Quebec Inc will send a BILL to PIERRE DAOUST for cost plus FEES :D
And then I will create a Bill of Exchange for PIERRE DAOUST, and then 9111-1111 Quebec Inc will deposit that thing in its bank account :D
HAHAHAHA!!!!
Oh and it's "THAN I can handle".
I suppose you don't know the proper use of your and you're, either...
Seriously, why doesn't natural selection take all your kind out? It should, you know.
These "Feel Good" types are people who mean you harm by even existing. The feed the programming you already have and mean you harm by their very nature.
This is the result of NO critical thinking abilities. Truth is lost with these people, and they protect their bullshit violently. It takes a special kind of stupid to embrace such a mindset. If nothing else, you will learn that these people cannot be fixed, and WHY they cannot be fixed.
I once believed the "positive universe" crap......just sayin'. Not that I think anyone can be "fixed". I feel like an ex-smoker around these people. Until they ACTUALLY think (which means accepting that they don't) there is NOTHING that can be done. I just like slapping them with reality, because it worked for me.
Scott Duncan I'm so sry I'm am idiot, I guess ill just leave this group full of wisdom and bitching, sometime u have to roll with the punches unlike anyone else I'm offering advise and no differ then others saying there is a way to lower payment. Well he'll yea there is.. But anyway I guess the other side is do nothing and suffer. FML sry or smart one.. This is my last post I'm
Done with negative ppl in my life. Hope u work the situation out by bitching. That will get u far
Note that the piece of shit talks like he's ENTITLED to be an idiot. He ignores the fact that I did not invite him. He ignored the mandate of the group, and claims he was "giving advice" (which they always do), even though HE'S clearly UNQUALIFIED TO BE GIVING ANY!
...THEN he gets all butt-hurt when he's called out on his stupidity.
Everyone saw that right? The admiral was right on cue too...you can't plan that shit. It's like the Admiral's bullshit alarm sounded and he ran to the bridge when this guy began spreading his diarrhea everywhere, lol!
I do not need "luck", and I do not COUNT on luck.....I am just doing what needs to be done......
I "know" chances aren't on my side, as far as ANSWERS, I am not stupid, but the FILE I am creating, is somehow filled with proof of BREACH OF TRUST, I will need these proof at one point, or maybe not....but if I need them, I will have them....
I think giving them the opportunity on telling the truth is a good thing to do, I gave them dozens of these opportunities, so far, and NOPE, they just won't, when I'll have a hundred of these done, I will have to KNOW, at 100%, that I am NOT "believing", but FACTS will be established....
Some say I am waisting time, I don't see it as such.... :)
Before The Tender for Law, I was watching the Soprano's and lots of hockey games on tv, now I ask questions, just a time management change, no big deal :-D
The reason I put "luck" in quotations is I see this word similar to "wish", "hope", "pray", "worry"... having no relevance other than in a fictional sense, intangible, moreover to convey a sentiment of emotion.
I resist using words as these but am at a loss for the ideal salutation.
I have want for Pete Daoust to be well.
For some reason, that doesn't flow as well. :)
Dino Quiring, have you asked CRA if you could use the security of the person to discharge debts CRA sends to the person you happen to be the sole authorized admin for ?
A 100 opportunities seems a little overboard but there must be no mistake as to the integrity. As expensive as it is, staying in honour is principle. You must be close to that number by now. That's a lot of value to port over to the MEGA-PERSON ;p
What she should have been told is:
You don't "HAVE" a legal person, so our legal world can't do anything for you, go get a legal person, and we will keep you "IN SECURITY" :D
Pete Daoust :
What she should have been told is:
You don't "HAVE" a legal person, so our legal world can't do anything for you, got get a legal person, and we will keep you "IN SECURITY"
Janick:
Well said Captain!
Pete, I'm genuinely interested in how your current situation develops. Considering that you're willing to pay, what alternatives do you have to the particular hospital and medical staff you've been dealing with so far? Surely paying for treatment is normal at private hospitals, do you have access to any of those? Is medical tourism an option for you?
Re: your earlier comment -
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2. Every human being whose life is in peril has a right to assistance.
Every person must come to the aid of anyone whose life is in peril, either personally or calling for aid, by giving him the necessary and immediate physical assistance, unless it involves danger to himself or a third person, or he has another valid reason.
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Where is the right and the assistance for that child in the pictures Scott linked to? What you wrote about 'Every person must come to the aid ... ' has one heck of a collectivist ring to it. What's with that?
In Quebec, hospitals are PUBLIC, and if you are NOT part of the "Quebec People" :D , you gotta pay, and that's exactly what I wanted to do this morning, PAY.
Pete Daoust I look at the remittances I've received...each one has the same last 3 digits, but the 5 before it are different........for example XXXXX-900...this makes me think finding what the 900 represents may be important?
But if I get to create Bill of Exchange, these routing codes might be helpful.....I am looking at this because I will have to create bill of exchange very soon, for account statement sent by 9111-1111 Quebec Inc to PIERRE DAOUST...
Since 9111-1111 Quebec inc will be deposit these Bills of exchange in its bank account, I want to cover every possible angles.... :D
No, the corp may send an ACCOUNT STATEMENT, with a detachable portion at the bottom, called a remittance, and you can transform this remittance into a negotiable instrument called a Bill of Exchange.....
I just wonder about the corp's bank......I can't see why they wouldn't cash this BoE at Bank of Canada, I can't see WHY they would refuse that kind of cheques .... :/
maybe it relates to the canada payments association and their mandate...or the idea that the corp bank isn't a registered bank? I don't know just throwing out ideas
I was thinking about this while falling asleep yesterday... if the clerk at the bloc op�ratoire didn't know what to do regarding payment maybe someone within the administration, for instance accounts receivable or maybe the head of accounting, could write PIERRE DAOUST a bill which you could then complete?
I went to see the administration department, they were ready to give me an invoice of $1160.00, for hospital and their staff, but they could NOT put the charges for the doctor, and the anestesist, because these two are CONTRACTORS......so I tried to have the cost from these two missing items on the invoice, and they simply REFUSED.....they didn't came to tell me this in my face, they used the little girl at the counter....
But if one of these hernia explode inside of me, and I arrive there in a ambulance, that would be considered as an URGENCY, and they will do there job....... :D
I have sent a letter, yesterday to the health care services, telling them that all this is their fault, because since december 2013 I am trying to have a simple answer to a simple question, four times I have asked, and they just don't answer, so I can't fill that renewal thing, because I am waiting on them to give me an answer.....
I copied the Minister of Health Care Service, Gaetan Barrette, and this morning, I received a letter from his attach� politique, saying that : Rest assure that we have red your concern with interest, and they have reached our PROFOUND consideration, and they will follow up on it :D
Fuck, I HAVE ONE SINGLE FUCKING QUESTION :-o
I thought doctors here in Quebec were public servants working for the hospital. Since they're CONTRACTORS couldn't you demand an invoice directly from them? Although I suppose getting in touch with them directly could be complicated...
But that dosen't change anything, I am still pushing them to answer my question...
Do I put March the 6th on that renewal form, which is the person's birth date, or do I put feb. the 19th, which is MY birth date :D
And I need a WRITTEN answer, and they know WHY I am asking this question......so lets wait for an answer :D
Their mandate is to serve us, by helping us UNDERSTAND stuff we don't understand, and since they are the ones who sent this renewal form, they are the ones to answer questions about these forms.....
They LOVE it, when the question falls outside their mandate, they literally answer you at speed of light....
Sorry Mister, but this is outside our mandate :D
Because that would PROVE that you and the PERSON are 2 different entities, you only being the beneficiary as creditor, and their scam would go kaput...
And the important thing in what Pete said is "WHATEVER THE ANSWER"...
As ANY answer - whatsoever - to that question - other than "sorry we do not understand what are you talking about sir?" - would imply UNDERSTANDING that there are INDEED 2 different entities, a MAN and a PERSON...
Once one of those stupid public trustee / AGENT steps outta line and CONFIRMS this fact in a way that it can be RECORDED, you can go ballistic, as the AGENCY/Government now ACCOUNTS for it...
BENEFICIARY: One for whose benefit a trust is created; a cestui que trust.
CREDITOR: A person to whom a debt Is owing by another person, called the �debtor.�
I should have mentionned, LEGAL definitions. LEGAL is SURETY and ACCOUNTING.
Beneficiary
A broad definition for any person or entity (like a charity) who is to receive assets or profits from an estate, a trust, an insurance policy or any instrument in which there is distribution.
Creditor
An individual to whom an obligation is owed because he or she has given something of value in exchange.
So...
Who's creditor of value in all of this, Cedar Pine, and who's to benefit ?
"Do I put March the 6th on that renewal form, which is the person's birth date, or do I put feb. the 19th, which is MY birth date" Capitain Pete
Omg, I'm turning into a terminology Nazi! :o The PERSON is a VESSEL and has a birth date or DATE OF BIRTH. The man has a birthday. BIRTH DATE is the ADMIRALTY term akin to passPORTs, BIRTH certificates etc. Am I wrong?
I can't help but laugh wondering if the Minister of Health Care Service would NOTICE the difference if asked "Do I put March the 6th on that renewal form, which is the person's date of birth, or do I put feb. the 19th, which is MY birthday"
David-Paul Sip, the PERSON is a PERSON, why changing words ?
And what I do in French, is freaking GREAT, in fact it's so great that they can't respond to it :-D
I love what you do in Frenglish...I wonder if that would work here in Ontario ;)
I don't nderstand what you mean by "changing words". Are you talking about VESSEL? That's Admiralty. There was a thread started by Will Bed where the PERSON = VESSEL. Or am I mistaken? If so forgive me.