The Tender For Law

Volume 6

Jun 19, 2014 5:05 PM

Will Bed

OK folks, Because we all wanna understand the Maritime lingo and get a clue what Chris Evan's talking about, let's play BATTLESHIP shall we ;)

SO LET'S START "The PROPER MARITIME thread" !

I tried to figure it all out, asked Chris for a few hints, and figured out we�d all learn more by letting this write itself in good ol� TT4L fashion !

So we need a board, we need ships, and we need players ! The SEA of COMMERCE will be our board, the PERSONS will be our VESSELS and we need MEN and WOMEN willing to play !

Let's play !

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Will Bed

FIRST OFF, we know there's this great SEA of COMMERCE out there which you need a PERSON (PROXY) to act through in COMMERCE, else you can't conduct COMMERCE.

NOW LUCKY YOU ! The government created a VESSEL for you when you were born and your parents �sold you out� by REGISTERING the NAME� But that VESSEL is THEIRS, it is part of THEIR FLEET and operates under THEIR LAWS.

As Chris said, COMMERCE is TRANSPORTATION� Look up the LEGAL DEFINITION of the word TRANSPORTATION > It�s a form of PUNISHMENT ! I think we should try to figure out WHY it's a form of PUNISHMENT.

Now let�s dumb that shit down as much as we can, from the start�

Will Bed

We know the government wouldn�t exist without us. It would be worth nothing and would be INSOLVENT. Chris pointed out they are in RECEIVERSHIP : they are PRESERVING the CARGO / NAME and TRANSPORTING it back to the men and women who DEPOSITED it�

�Receivership n. the process of appointment by a court of a receiver to take custody of the property, business, rents and profits of a party to a lawsuit pending a final decision on disbursement or an agreement that a receiver control the financial receipts of a person who is deeply in debt (insolvent) for the benefit of creditors. Thus, the term "the business is in receivership." (See: receiver)�

The VESSELS they are using to do that are the PERSONS. You, the man or woman, are in CONTROL of a VESSEL which is THEIRS. You, the man or woman, are PRESUMED SURETY for their VESSEL. - if you respond to the NAME before it reaches PORT

ALL they care about is the CARGO and their LAWS are in effect until the CORGO reaches the place where it�s being sent� A WHARF It would make sense to me that we want a PRIVATE TRUST to be that WHARF ?

And like any good shipper, they have INSURED the CARGO on that VESSEL they gave you. Should you, one day, fuck that CARGO up, they will try to make you pay, but since you are not their SLAVE and you never asked or consented to SAILING THEIR SHIP for FREE, you have the right to that INSURANCE / SURETY�

But it seems they wanna avoid claiming to that INSURANCE and instead they want you, by believing you are that VESSEL, to pay for it� So when they educated you so that you could be set free on the great SEA of COMMERCE, they omitted to INFORM you about that INSURANCE.

Are we all sailing in the right direction ?

Pete Daoust

What do you think of this ? :D

Hi Mr. Mackay, Attorney General of Canada.

Is it true that I can use the SURETY of the PERSON I happen to have, to settle ANY public debts sent to the person I happen to have ?

I�ve been administrating public debts that way, for a while, and NO ONE IS ANSWERING the question.

I haven�t acted as surety, for the Hydro-Quebec bill, these guys are sending to the person I happen to have, for 23 months now, and I still have electricity in the house, and NO ONE IS TOUCHING this, at Hydro-Quebec�

I beg them, to say I am wrong, and if I am wrong, I WILL PAY, no one is answering.

I have administrated several different public debt so far, and SAME CRAP, no one seems to want to talk about it�.

I have no choice other than to go PUBLIC with all this, unless someone from the Government says I AM WRONG�but so far, I AM RIGHT, because no one says otherwise

I just need a YES, or a NO from you, Mr. Mackay, I am just seeking for the TRUTH�.and the truth seems to be that I am NOT obliged to BUY back these public debts�.

I have good reasons to believe that this matter brings up a question on either I am a slave, or NOT a slave�.

I am NOT associated with any stupid ideologies like these stupid free-man-on-the-land, Illuminatis, reptilians, religions, or ANY other bullshit like that�

I just realized that I am a MAN, and I have a PERSON, and it�s NOT MY FAULT. Quebec Revenue Agency pushed me to learn all this stuff, you should find a way to shut down that place, they are creating lots of damages :D

I was a COMPLETE �IGNORANT� 4 years ago�.now I KNOW stuff that not even 1% of Men and Women knows, AND IT�S NOT MY FAULT :D

Thanks Pierre Sole AUTHORIZED Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST, the person.

p.s. If I was DEEMED to �be� the person, that was a mistake, and please forgive me.

Chris Evan

OK....the VESSEL is REGISTERED to a FOREIGN BANKRUPT ADMIRALTY that is providing TRANSPORTATION for the CARGO (also REGISTERED) back to the original DEPOSITOR. Until the CARGO is RECEIVED on a WHARF or by a PARTY, it is subject to the rules of the FOREIGN ADMIRALTY.

Anibal Jose Baez

So, by the age of 16, we were supposed to acknowledge being in RECEIPT of the BC, by notifying the REGISTER' that it had successfully been DELIVERED, and that we are now either acting as SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATORS, or pulling the VESSEL out of commerce into a private TRUST?

Will Bed

So for 16 years, they determine the meaning of their bullshit --------------- into our heads through education and social brainwashing ? is that they figured it would take 16 years to install all those shitty programs inside our heads and make sure they work as intended before the whole thing is CONSTRUCTED ? ---------------- before they finally let us take that VESSEL out at SEA, with (concealed) DEBT as CARGO on board (headed back to the DEPOSITORS, but we don't even know that) so we're just sailing around being PRESUMED SURETY (and ignorantly acting as such) for that DEBT CARGO...

If that's it, then HERE we turn 16 RIGHT NOW and we're off !

Will Bed

Now when you have at least ONE VESSEL and it's reached a WHARF (PRIVATE TRUST) and is subject to that JURISDICTION, you are now an ADMIRAL ? And you can build a NAVY by creating multiple VESSELS or having other VESSELS join your WHARF to better serve the interests of your WHARF ?

Anibal Jose Baez

admiralty n. concerning activities which occur at sea, including on small boats and ships innavigable bays. Admiralty law (maritime law) includes accidents and injuries at sea, maritime contracts and commerce, alleged violations of rules of the sea over shipping lanes and rights-of-way, and mutiny and other crimes on shipboard. Jurisdiction over all these matters rests in the Federal Courts, which do not use juries in admiralty cases. There are other special rules in processing maritime cases, which are often handled by admiralty law specialists. Lawyers appearing in admiralty cases are called "proctors." (See: maritime law)

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Admiralty

Scott Duncan

Dean Clifford was ratified into AQUILAE almost 3 years ago. He was secured and freed. The police had NO standing to enforce ANY POLICY on him. All Dean had to do was alert AQUILAE. He didn't.

ALL of you watched THAT play out.

He was SUPPOSED to establish a STONE FRIGATE in Manitoba, and then turn command over to Erick Kirov (AV TYSON NX-16) and HE would be trained as a CAPTAIN on the TYSON. When he was ready, he'd be GIVEN command of AV COPERNICUS (NX-1) which would be finished construction by then.

Now it looks like Daniel J Wentz will be commanding COPERNICUS AND chairing NX2000; Which, speaking as ADMIRAL, I REALLY dislike. BOTH jobs chew up a BIG chunk of life. I chaired NX2000 for 10 years, so I know what's involved. I was CAPTAIN of the AUST-MARU (NX-7) for 2 years, and I know what's involved there too!

Dean Clifford cost us more than Menard did.

Will Bed

"Dean Clifford was ratified into AQUILAE" how does that work and what are the implications ?

If you have your own VESSEL / PRIVATE CORP and have established the WHARF / TRUST and SEIZED THE CARGO / LIEN THE NAME... What is the extent of the JURISDICTION when you are on LAND ??

I said it many times, that TRUST / MARITIME stuff really fucks me up so sorry if I'm tackling this from the dumbest level :(

David-Paul Sip

Thanks for the definition of RECEIVORSHIP Will Bed "Chris pointed out they are in RECEIVERSHIP" Sooooooo TRUE. This triggered something for me. I had read many times that CANADA was bankrupt. Unlike 'Murika and HJR 192 I could not confirm or find any reference to this. After watching a FREE-DUMB movie (Consent of the Governed as I recall) I remembered that Canada was created by the British North America Act...yes the BNA is taught in school :) . Therefore any Bankruptcy would likely only be found in British Acts and Statutes since CANADA is a BRITISH VESSEL. Now there's a PERSPECTIVE that isn't given through any PUBLIC programming lol!

I then turned to reading another FREE-DUMBER book by Robert Menard and discovered the only evidence of Canada's bankruptcy I know of currently. It is a strange title I had known about for years but did not understand nor appreciate...Tell me if you recognize it? The RECEIVER GENERAL of CANADA. From reading another thread today I just made another connection from the word GENERAL...Generals command armies. Armies are restricted to land. Is this the connection to Pete's "land stuff"?

David-Paul Sip

I said it then and I'll say it again....un-FUCKING-believable! ...RECEIVER GENERAL? I remember when I first saw this term (15-20 years ago) thinking what kind of gay FUCKING name is that? Little did I know :D

David-Paul Sip

Wow! FUCK you have RECEIVER GENERALs in 'Murika too Chris lol! Ahhh the SEA of COMMERCE is as wide as it is deep hahahahahha! It is a RECEIVER GENERAL and a General COMMANDS armies. Armies are restricted to LAND.

Will Bed

Scott Duncan can you give us more info on this :

"Dean Clifford was ratified into AQUILAE" how does that work and what are the implications ?

If you have your own VESSEL / PRIVATE CORP and have established the WHARF / TRUST and SEIZED THE CARGO / LIEN THE NAME... What is the extent of the JURISDICTION when you are on LAND ??

Will Bed

Yeah my question is more like, we know how QUEBEC applies their JURISDICTION and how everyone walking around BEING a PERSON is subject to that...

But let's say you come up with YOUR OWN JURISDICTION, YOUR OWN LAWS... And let's say Dean is under AQUILEA, and some government agent kidnaps him, how does AQUILAE go about that, or any other fucker trying to fuck around with AQUILEA's business... How do you enforce (edit) your JURISDICTION ?

Scott Duncan

To answer Shabnam's question:

"spic" is to people of Spanish origin, what "nigger" is to African origin.

We have "Fake racism" in this group, because the stereotypes are so ridiculous, we use the term to attach REALLY SILLY stereotypes, and attach them to history.

Will Bed

Pete Daoust I dont know, it just cant be so hard to understand !? I have a feeling this only covers part of why you want a TRUST... Like theres something missing in my head - I cant figure out what - for it all to work out...

Scott Duncan

This is of course a lie. There is NO TRUST SET UP FOR YOU.

You can CREATE money IN trust using the Government, but since all of you:

a) have no clue what money is

and

b) have no clue what your GIVEN NAME means.

and

c) HAVE NO REAL VALUE

Any "trust" involving the Government will MAKE YOU A VICTIM.

Chip Douglas

So for instance Scott, this section of the Financial Administration Act:

Not bound to execute trusts

59. Her Majesty and a fiscal agent or registrar acting as such are not bound to see to the execution of any express or implied trust to which any securities are subject.

What are they effectively saying to us here: "Sorry- but its up to you guys to create your own private-express-trust, we here with the Government cant help you guys out with that...this has to be of your own INTENT" ?

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11/page-29.html#docCont

Chris Evan

They are called surnames, because originally they were written over the name in judicial writings and contracts. They were and are still used for the purpose of distinguishing persons of the same name. They were taken from something attached to the persons assuming them, as John Carpenter, Joseph Black, Samuel Little, &c. See Name.

David-Paul Sip

Okay, lost me on this GIVEN versus TAKEN name shit. I thought I knew Pete but now not so sure. That's a lot of fucking names you were GIVEN brother. I'm not one to talk though. I thought the names we were GIVEN is what ended up on the REGISTRATION and ultimately the BC. In your case it's just PIERRE DAOUST without the rest of your name train. Am I to understand that the GIVEN name has nothing to do with the REGISTERED NAME that created the PERSON? My Name was REGISTERED as DAVID PAUL. This is my PERSON on the BC. My GIVEN names are David-Paul Patrick.So if I use David or David-Paul then are these the names I have TAKEN?

Chip Douglas

Chris Evan "Collect your DEPOSIT and they go away.....that is providing TRANSPORTATION for the CARGO (also REGISTERED) back to the original DEPOSITOR"

Chris- for the sake of clarity; what exactly did YOU deposit...you were pretty young when the BC was issued

Age Thomson

"Chris Evan OK....the VESSEL is REGISTERED to a FOREIGN BANKRUPT ADMIRALTY that is providing TRANSPORTATION for the CARGO (also REGISTERED) back to the original DEPOSITOR. Until the CARGO is RECEIVED on a WHARF or by a PARTY, it is subject to the rules of the FOREIGN ADMIRALTY.

Yesterday at 2:44pm � Like � 8 ..

Scott Duncan That's it in a nutshell." So.... Is it not possible then for another ADMIRALTY to simply receive it?

Sue Rakestraw

The "surname" would be what you consider your "last name". If your mommy & daddy GIVE you this first and middle name, what do they call you? I have a GIVEN name and I have a TAKEN name and no one denies these names to me. I TOOK them and I USE them.

I don't allow the use of the MIDDLE INITIAL either. Think on that....

Scott Duncan

Um... No.

SUR a prefix meaning �over, above,� �in addition,� occurring mainly in loanwords from French and partial calques of French words: surcharge; surname; surrender; survive.

NAME, this shit you think you "took"

David-Paul Sip

Scott Duncan <<FIRST NAME = GIVEN NAME

MIDDLE NAME = TAKEN NAME

SURNAME = ABOVE YOUR NAME>> Now this is something folks do not hear in FREE-DUMB land. First time I have seen this and it is SIMPLE. It makes sense. Fucking government...CLAIM my family's name? Oh it's so on now motherfuckers

David-Paul Sip

<<Nobody can legally attach a name ABOVE that "last" name.>> Scott Duncan My understanding Jason is this is the how the government CLAIMS its jurisdiction <<The government CLAIMS it (with proof) and says it's the LAST NAME that can be attached.>> Scott Duncan