Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:12 PM
FIRST OFF, we know there's this great SEA of COMMERCE out there which you need a PERSON (PROXY) to act through in COMMERCE, else you can't conduct COMMERCE. NOW LUCKY YOU ! The government created a VESSEL for you when you were born and your parents �sold you out� by REGISTERING the NAME� But that VESSEL is THEIRS, it is part of THEIR FLEET and operates under THEIR LAWS. As Chris said, COMMERCE is TRANSPORTATION� Look up the LEGAL DEFINITION of the word TRANSPORTATION > It�s a form of PUNISHMENT ! I think we should try to figure out WHY it's a form of PUNISHMENT. Now let�s dumb that shit down as much as we can, from the start�


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 5:17 PM
I don't know anything about the sea, other than going to the beach. So I'll be reading, and learning for now.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:17 PM
Let me go and get my speedo, be back later :P


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:19 PM
We know the government wouldn�t exist without us. It would be worth nothing and would be INSOLVENT. Chris pointed out they are in RECEIVERSHIP : they are PRESERVING the CARGO / NAME and TRANSPORTING it back to the men and women who DEPOSITED it� �Receivership n. the process of appointment by a court of a receiver to take custody of the property, business, rents and profits of a party to a lawsuit pending a final decision on disbursement or an agreement that a receiver control the financial receipts of a person who is deeply in debt (insolvent) for the benefit of creditors. Thus, the term "the business is in receivership." (See: receiver)� The VESSELS they are using to do that are the PERSONS. You, the man or woman, are in CONTROL of a VESSEL which is THEIRS. You, the man or woman, are PRESUMED SURETY for their VESSEL. - if you respond to the NAME before it reaches PORT ALL they care about is the CARGO and their LAWS are in effect until the CORGO reaches the place where it�s being sent� A WHARF It would make sense to me that we want a PRIVATE TRUST to be that WHARF ? And like any good shipper, they have INSURED the CARGO on that VESSEL they gave you. Should you, one day, fuck that CARGO up, they will try to make you pay, but since you are not their SLAVE and you never asked or consented to SAILING THEIR SHIP for FREE, you have the right to that INSURANCE / SURETY� But it seems they wanna avoid claiming to that INSURANCE and instead they want you, by believing you are that VESSEL, to pay for it� So when they educated you so that you could be set free on the great SEA of COMMERCE, they omitted to INFORM you about that INSURANCE. Are we all sailing in the right direction ?


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:22 PM
So who's being PUNISHED by TRANSPORTING the CARGO back to us ?? What could that CARGO be other than DEBT, since they are INSOLVENT and are worth NOTHING without us ?


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 5:23 PM
That makes sense to me, so far, given that the information is correct.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 5:25 PM
So the ignorant man punishes himself, by buying back the public debt, BELIEVING he is the VESSEL?


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:28 PM
So that VESSEL they created and gave us, how long has it been docked/dry before they would let us take control of it ? 16 years ? Why wait so long ??


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:29 PM
Fuck, this is EXACTLY what I say, but with different words :/


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 5:29 PM
You fucking read my mind!


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:29 PM
:D


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:30 PM
Right, but I wanna understand that lingo !


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:30 PM
Me and Mackximus Minimus, have spent 48 hours together :D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 5:30 PM
Disease free!


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:31 PM
The way I explain it, is ON LAND's way Now, this is on WATER's way :D


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:32 PM
Hahaha Alright so let's answer those first questions before we go further... and match your land stuff to the maritime stuff ! I hear it's safer out on the SEA !


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:36 PM
I am BUSY right now, emailing QUESTIONS :P


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:40 PM
What do you think of this ? :D Hi Mr. Mackay, Attorney General of Canada. Is it true that I can use the SURETY of the PERSON I happen to have, to settle ANY public debts sent to the person I happen to have ? I�ve been administrating public debts that way, for a while, and NO ONE IS ANSWERING the question. I haven�t acted as surety, for the Hydro-Quebec bill, these guys are sending to the person I happen to have, for 23 months now, and I still have electricity in the house, and NO ONE IS TOUCHING this, at Hydro-Quebec� I beg them, to say I am wrong, and if I am wrong, I WILL PAY, no one is answering. I have administrated several different public debt so far, and SAME CRAP, no one seems to want to talk about it�. I have no choice other than to go PUBLIC with all this, unless someone from the Government says I AM WRONG�but so far, I AM RIGHT, because no one says otherwise I just need a YES, or a NO from you, Mr. Mackay, I am just seeking for the TRUTH�.and the truth seems to be that I am NOT obliged to BUY back these public debts�. I have good reasons to believe that this matter brings up a question on either I am a slave, or NOT a slave�. I am NOT associated with any stupid ideologies like these stupid free-man-on-the-land, Illuminatis, reptilians, religions, or ANY other bullshit like that� I just realized that I am a MAN, and I have a PERSON, and it�s NOT MY FAULT. Quebec Revenue Agency pushed me to learn all this stuff, you should find a way to shut down that place, they are creating lots of damages :D I was a COMPLETE �IGNORANT� 4 years ago�.now I KNOW stuff that not even 1% of Men and Women knows, AND IT�S NOT MY FAULT :D Thanks Pierre Sole AUTHORIZED Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST, the person. p.s. If I was DEEMED to �be� the person, that was a mistake, and please forgive me.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:41 PM
Scott Duncan, WHO should I send QUESTIONS to ? :/ Fuck, there is so many of them :(


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 5:44 PM
OK....the VESSEL is REGISTERED to a FOREIGN BANKRUPT ADMIRALTY that is providing TRANSPORTATION for the CARGO (also REGISTERED) back to the original DEPOSITOR. Until the CARGO is RECEIVED on a WHARF or by a PARTY, it is subject to the rules of the FOREIGN ADMIRALTY.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 5:45 PM
That's it in a nutshell.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 5:45 PM
Ooh! :D I get that.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 5:46 PM
It's is more liberating to be at sea, but it is NOT safer.


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 5:46 PM
:-D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 5:46 PM
You are FAR safer on land.


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 5:47 PM
On a WHARF!!! OR ISLAND


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:48 PM
So the WHARF, that's the private TRUST ?


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 5:48 PM
Yes, it seems that if you are not in a WHARF/TRUST, you are subject to plunder form PRIVATEERS. The VESSELS will be subject to attacks. Is this correct?


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 5:49 PM
Pretty much.


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 5:49 PM
Yes it is....because they are protecting the cargo for the insurer


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:49 PM
Alright, now why is TRANSPORTATION = PUNISHMENT ?


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 5:50 PM
Ooh! I get that. :D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 5:50 PM
TRANSPORTATION=SURETY


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 5:50 PM
I don't know....I didn't write the language. But I bet it has something to do with Australlia


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:52 PM
And why does it take all those years before they let the ship off to sea ?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:53 PM
no fuel...


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:53 PM
before 16 :D


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:54 PM
Why no fuel before 16 ? I was just as capable to do stuff before 16 than I was at or after 16 ?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:55 PM
LEGAL fuel :P


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:55 PM
I know, but ... Why did they decide it was 16 ?


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 5:55 PM
Legal CONSTRUCT


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 5:56 PM
The VESSEL is not CONSTRUCTED.


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 5:57 PM
I must be fuckin dumb, but why is it more CONSTRUCTED once you flip 15 > 16 at midnight ? Whats the point for it being 16 ?


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 5:58 PM
So is just some administrative policy decision, right? I know there is no magic behind it.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 5:59 PM
Construction The process by which the meaning of an ambiguous provision of a statute, written document, or oral agreement is determined.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 6:00 PM
I could not find a legal definition for CONSTRUCT.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 6:01 PM
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/construction


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 6:04 PM
Construct is derived from CONSTRUE


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 6:10 PM
Hahaha....Pete Pete Daoust is not the CARGO, he is the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR of the CARGO. Which just so happens to be BONDED.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 6:10 PM
So, by the age of 16, we were supposed to acknowledge being in RECEIPT of the BC, by notifying the REGISTER' that it had successfully been DELIVERED, and that we are now either acting as SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATORS, or pulling the VESSEL out of commerce into a private TRUST?


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:11 PM
So for 16 years, they determine the meaning of their bullshit --------------- into our heads through education and social brainwashing ? is that they figured it would take 16 years to install all those shitty programs inside our heads and make sure they work as intended before the whole thing is CONSTRUCTED ? ---------------- before they finally let us take that VESSEL out at SEA, with (concealed) DEBT as CARGO on board (headed back to the DEPOSITORS, but we don't even know that) so we're just sailing around being PRESUMED SURETY (and ignorantly acting as such) for that DEBT CARGO... If that's it, then HERE we turn 16 RIGHT NOW and we're off !


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:12 PM
Actually, you create your OWN VESSEL (CORP) and leave THEIRS to rott...


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 6:13 PM
Yes, I see. The new corporate person will be the new VESSEL to use for COMMERCE.


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:15 PM
Now when you have at least ONE VESSEL and it's reached a WHARF (PRIVATE TRUST) and is subject to that JURISDICTION, you are now an ADMIRAL ? And you can build a NAVY by creating multiple VESSELS or having other VESSELS join your WHARF to better serve the interests of your WHARF ?


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 6:17 PM
There's safety in numbers. Join an Admiralty. :D


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Isaiah Whitney

Jun 19, 2014 6:17 PM
A TRUST?


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 6:18 PM
Pick-a-Pirate kind of thing?


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Daniel J Wentz

Jun 19, 2014 6:19 PM
OH GOD, NO! I was a human being once. :( Then, AQUILAE. :(


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 6:19 PM
admiralty n. concerning activities which occur at sea, including on small boats and ships innavigable bays. Admiralty law (maritime law) includes accidents and injuries at sea, maritime contracts and commerce, alleged violations of rules of the sea over shipping lanes and rights-of-way, and mutiny and other crimes on shipboard. Jurisdiction over all these matters rests in the Federal Courts, which do not use juries in admiralty cases. There are other special rules in processing maritime cases, which are often handled by admiralty law specialists. Lawyers appearing in admiralty cases are called "proctors." (See: maritime law) http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Admiralty


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 6:21 PM
Daniel J Wentz tells jokes few can grasp. :D I wonder how many got it? :D


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:23 PM
Daniel J Wentz joined AQUILAE ? And is now a slave / property of AQUILAE ?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 6:24 PM
No, he is a MONSTER :D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 6:24 PM
The VESSEL/SLAVE has a new MASTER!


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 6:25 PM
Will Bed...you SEIZE it. You don't leave it to rot


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:26 PM
You seize it and don't use it anymore, right ? You let it collect rust ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 6:26 PM
I would let it coolect dust....


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:29 PM
Alright, you have that VESSEL sitting there, just in case... And if someone comes claiming it, they have to go through THE WHARF's JURISDICTION.


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 6:30 PM
How can they get onto a WHARF??


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:31 PM
I guess if you had one of my VESSELS, I may wanna come and get it ! Just like any good ol' pirate would do ?


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:32 PM
You seized the VESSEL and its CARGO under a TRUST. It has its own LAWS. Now the CARGO is the government's property... They should be pissed ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 6:32 PM
No!!!! It is SUPPOSED to be RECEIVED. Hence the RECEIVERSHIP


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:32 PM
FUCK you're right !


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:32 PM
I drifted off on this one ! :(


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 6:33 PM
Collect your DEPOSIT and they go away


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Jun 19, 2014 6:34 PM
AQUILAE OWNS Daniel J Wentz and all of DANIEL J WENTZ'S PROPERTY. In exchange Daniel J, WENTZ is CAPTAIN of an AQUILAE VESSEL.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 6:35 PM
Oh, I am totally getting this shit. :D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 6:36 PM
Let me explain what Dean Clifford flushed down the crapper :D


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:36 PM
So if ever the government wanted anything to do with Daniel J Wentz's they'd have to go through AQUILAE... And I guess you don't wanna fuck around with AQUILAE ;)


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 6:38 PM
:D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 6:49 PM
Dean Clifford was ratified into AQUILAE almost 3 years ago. He was secured and freed. The police had NO standing to enforce ANY POLICY on him. All Dean had to do was alert AQUILAE. He didn't. ALL of you watched THAT play out. He was SUPPOSED to establish a STONE FRIGATE in Manitoba, and then turn command over to Erick Kirov (AV TYSON NX-16) and HE would be trained as a CAPTAIN on the TYSON. When he was ready, he'd be GIVEN command of AV COPERNICUS (NX-1) which would be finished construction by then. Now it looks like Daniel J Wentz will be commanding COPERNICUS AND chairing NX2000; Which, speaking as ADMIRAL, I REALLY dislike. BOTH jobs chew up a BIG chunk of life. I chaired NX2000 for 10 years, so I know what's involved. I was CAPTAIN of the AUST-MARU (NX-7) for 2 years, and I know what's involved there too! Dean Clifford cost us more than Menard did.


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 6:53 PM
And those VESSELS are not actual BOATS are they ? For some reason I have a feeling this has something to do with COMPUTERS ? BIG ASS COMPUTERS...


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 7:14 PM
"Dean Clifford was ratified into AQUILAE" how does that work and what are the implications ? If you have your own VESSEL / PRIVATE CORP and have established the WHARF / TRUST and SEIZED THE CARGO / LIEN THE NAME... What is the extent of the JURISDICTION when you are on LAND ?? I said it many times, that TRUST / MARITIME stuff really fucks me up so sorry if I'm tackling this from the dumbest level :(


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Jun 19, 2014 7:17 PM
Thanks for the definition of RECEIVORSHIP Will Bed "Chris pointed out they are in RECEIVERSHIP" Sooooooo TRUE. This triggered something for me. I had read many times that CANADA was bankrupt. Unlike 'Murika and HJR 192 I could not confirm or find any reference to this. After watching a FREE-DUMB movie (Consent of the Governed as I recall) I remembered that Canada was created by the British North America Act...yes the BNA is taught in school :) . Therefore any Bankruptcy would likely only be found in British Acts and Statutes since CANADA is a BRITISH VESSEL. Now there's a PERSPECTIVE that isn't given through any PUBLIC programming lol! I then turned to reading another FREE-DUMBER book by Robert Menard and discovered the only evidence of Canada's bankruptcy I know of currently. It is a strange title I had known about for years but did not understand nor appreciate...Tell me if you recognize it? The RECEIVER GENERAL of CANADA. From reading another thread today I just made another connection from the word GENERAL...Generals command armies. Armies are restricted to land. Is this the connection to Pete's "land stuff"?


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Jun 19, 2014 7:19 PM
YES! Give David-Paul Sip a cookie! :D


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Jun 19, 2014 7:20 PM
:D


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Jun 19, 2014 7:21 PM
RECEIVERS only exist as BANKRUPTCY TRUSTEES. The EVIDENCE in IN THE FUCKING NAME! RECEIVER GENERAL!


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Jun 19, 2014 7:27 PM
I said it then and I'll say it again....un-FUCKING-believable! ...RECEIVER GENERAL? I remember when I first saw this term (15-20 years ago) thinking what kind of gay FUCKING name is that? Little did I know :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 7:35 PM
What Pete's land stuff ? :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 7:39 PM
Here in Slaveachusetts, the Treasurer is also the Receiver General. And it says so on his letter head


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 7:45 PM
Scott Duncan....what is that RECEIVER doing on LAND?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 7:46 PM
David-Paul Sip just covered this, no ? :/


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David-Paul Sip

Jun 19, 2014 7:50 PM
Wow! FUCK you have RECEIVER GENERALs in 'Murika too Chris lol! Ahhh the SEA of COMMERCE is as wide as it is deep hahahahahha! It is a RECEIVER GENERAL and a General COMMANDS armies. Armies are restricted to LAND.


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 7:51 PM
No....but I got it. The Lieber Code


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 7:52 PM
Ok, fuck, do I need a boat or a jeep, for fuck sakes ?


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 7:57 PM
Scott Duncan can you give us more info on this : "Dean Clifford was ratified into AQUILAE" how does that work and what are the implications ? If you have your own VESSEL / PRIVATE CORP and have established the WHARF / TRUST and SEIZED THE CARGO / LIEN THE NAME... What is the extent of the JURISDICTION when you are on LAND ??


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 8:21 PM
It's like PIERRE DAOUST was RATIFIED into QUEBEC, I think. :/


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 8:28 PM
With PROPER PUBLIC NOTICE, the PERSON could be ratified anywhere


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 8:29 PM
If I have a bunch of CARGO and I show up at some WHARF, then I make an ANNOUNCEMENT about the TRANSFER, and no one has a claim to the CARGO, is it not ratified?


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 8:30 PM
Yeah my question is more like, we know how QUEBEC applies their JURISDICTION and how everyone walking around BEING a PERSON is subject to that... But let's say you come up with YOUR OWN JURISDICTION, YOUR OWN LAWS... And let's say Dean is under AQUILEA, and some government agent kidnaps him, how does AQUILAE go about that, or any other fucker trying to fuck around with AQUILEA's business... How do you enforce (edit) your JURISDICTION ?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 8:32 PM
I guess AQUILAE will right away call the SURETY ? :/


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 8:33 PM
And say : HEY....cost for SECURITY please... :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 8:34 PM
I think its like in that movie 12 years a Slave....very good lesson about SLAVEMASTERS


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:01 PM
Will Bed, no they are ACTUAL BOATS


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:02 PM
Copernicus


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Shabnam Hamedanchi

Jun 19, 2014 9:04 PM
Oops


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:04 PM
Tycho-Brahe


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Shabnam Hamedanchi

Jun 19, 2014 9:04 PM
I like it :)


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Shabnam Hamedanchi

Jun 19, 2014 9:05 PM
It's a first time i see your boat from this view, it's nice :)


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 9:06 PM
That Tycho-Brahe is a beautiful boat!!


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 9:06 PM
Copernicus !! :-o


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:06 PM
She's a rusting hulk with make-up. You've seen her in person :D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:07 PM
Copernicus isn't finished.


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 9:07 PM
m.youtube.com/watch?v=FloeB_fhFSE


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 9:08 PM
I didn't see any rust!!


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 9:09 PM
Copernicus is not small, Copernicus looks like she will have lots of space.... :D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:10 PM
That's because we ground it off and hammered the dents out. Well The Fender (Sometimes acting as Lou Manotti) did all of the pounding-of-dents.


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Jason Lerato

Jun 19, 2014 9:10 PM
Pete I liked what was written to Mackey. Did u find out where to send it


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 9:10 PM
Of course, fuck... :/


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 9:10 PM
Do I really look that dumb ? :(


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Jason Lerato

Jun 19, 2014 9:11 PM
It was just a question. lol


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 9:11 PM
And the answer was for YOU :D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:12 PM
I'll rattle Erich's cage, and see if he'll send me pics of the Tyson. It's in Scotland at the moment.


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Jason Lerato

Jun 19, 2014 9:12 PM
Thank u captain


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 9:12 PM
*you


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 9:13 PM
You write ONE more word in textard, Jason Lerato, and you are gone, forever :P


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Jason Lerato

Jun 19, 2014 9:15 PM
Understood


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Shabnam Hamedanchi

Jun 19, 2014 9:17 PM
Scott Duncan I really would like to travel with your boats :p


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 9:18 PM
And make a video....


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 9:18 PM
I ALMOST went in the Tycho-Brahe :(


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 9:19 PM
I am sure I coudl't go, because I had a spic with me, filled with disease :P


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 9:19 PM
Ohhh??? Pay with your.....


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:20 PM
Pete: The Copernicus is AQUILAE's largest vessel. It's something retarded like 150 feet long. She was salvaged and towed to her current location, and Daniel J Wentz has a crew fixing her up.


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Shabnam Hamedanchi

Jun 19, 2014 9:20 PM
spic??


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Jun 19, 2014 9:20 PM
I went on the Tycho-Brahe with a GREASY SPIC


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 9:20 PM
Leave her alone Chris Evan...


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 9:20 PM
spanish fly :D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:20 PM
Shabnam Hamedanchi is HANDS OFF.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 9:21 PM
It was Admiral's Sleepy Time fault! And please do not say greasy spic. That is offensive. It is DIRTY spic.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:21 PM
You don't speak to her or OF her unless she speaks to you.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:22 PM
You can consider that a PEREMPTORY ORDER.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:25 PM
To answer Shabnam's question: "spic" is to people of Spanish origin, what "nigger" is to African origin. We have "Fake racism" in this group, because the stereotypes are so ridiculous, we use the term to attach REALLY SILLY stereotypes, and attach them to history.


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Shabnam Hamedanchi

Jun 19, 2014 9:26 PM
Thank you my love :D


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Jun 19, 2014 9:26 PM
But Pete really hates Haitians


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:27 PM
If I try hard enough, people will blame Puerto-Ricans for the death of the natives :D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 9:28 PM
Why can I see that happening? :/


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:29 PM
Muslims and Jews keep trying to be a "race", and people are buying it, but the second I try to postulate that QUEBECOIS are a "race", so we can REALLY get our "Hate" on ...well people get upset. Go figure!


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:30 PM
...it's like those fuckers have a different word for EVERYTHING!


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 9:30 PM
Hellos!!


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:31 PM
You see, dear readers, RACE, like your "God", is just shit you made up. I reserve the right to make fun of you for it.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 9:43 PM
I just realized... ...I AM REALLY QUALIFIED to speak in this thread! :D


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 10:25 PM
So... I must be fuckin dumb... But lets say a govt agent gets Dean Clifford, and AQUILAE is informed of what just happened to its property, what does AQUILAE do in order to get this stolen property back ?


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 19, 2014 10:30 PM
Maybe, since AQULAE is first in line, AQULAE hits the UNDERWRITER/SURETY BOND, settles the accounting with the guv'ment, and if there is anything left, is profit?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 10:44 PM
STOP SAYING YOU ARE DUMB Will Bed, ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 10:45 PM
Will Bed...the answer is in 12 Years a Slave. Good movie!!


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 10:49 PM
Pete Daoust I dont know, it just cant be so hard to understand !? I have a feeling this only covers part of why you want a TRUST... Like theres something missing in my head - I cant figure out what - for it all to work out...


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 10:50 PM
If you want a trust, EXPRESS one, no big deal :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 10:51 PM
Its not that something is missing....its that there is too much programs running


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 10:51 PM
:D


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Chip Douglas

Jun 19, 2014 10:58 PM
Mackximus- did you say something recently to the effect that, Dean Clifford at a seminar of his you attended said something like: "There's ALREADY a trust set up for you, so just go ahead and use it..." ?


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Gerry Odonothing

Jun 19, 2014 10:59 PM
I'm late on this one, is the crows nest taken Captain as I will need the best vantage point I can get to make sense of all of this?


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 11:01 PM
I heard it myself chip


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 11:03 PM
This is of course a lie. There is NO TRUST SET UP FOR YOU. You can CREATE money IN trust using the Government, but since all of you: a) have no clue what money is and b) have no clue what your GIVEN NAME means. and c) HAVE NO REAL VALUE Any "trust" involving the Government will MAKE YOU A VICTIM.


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 11:07 PM
All of us. Fuck


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 11:09 PM
GIVEN NAME = shareholder ? = Beneficiary ? Joseph Pierre Gilles is my given name, right ? This or these names has been GIVEN to me, by the lady, right ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 11:10 PM
No...given by the government. It's an account


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Will Bed

Jun 19, 2014 11:11 PM
NAME = VALUE GIVEN = GIFT = NOT COURTESY = EXACTLY WHAT WE THINK IT IS


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 11:12 PM
No Chris Evan, My given names are Joseph Pierre Gilles, I TOOK Pierre :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 11:13 PM
What was registered?


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Chip Douglas

Jun 19, 2014 11:13 PM
So for instance Scott, this section of the Financial Administration Act: Not bound to execute trusts 59. Her Majesty and a fiscal agent or registrar acting as such are not bound to see to the execution of any express or implied trust to which any securities are subject. What are they effectively saying to us here: "Sorry- but its up to you guys to create your own private-express-trust, we here with the Government cant help you guys out with that...this has to be of your own INTENT" ? http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11/page-29.html#docCont


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 11:15 PM
A PERSON, Chris Evan....


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Scott Duncan

Jun 19, 2014 11:16 PM
WHY is it that PETE gets all this, and the rest of you cannot?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 11:17 PM
The name of that PERSON is PIERRE DAOUST, and no one gave that to me, as far as I know.....I can ENJOY the thing, but it's NOT mine....


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 11:17 PM
But Joseph Pierre Gilles, has been GIVEN to me, by the lady that pulled me out of her


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 11:18 PM
I took Pierre, apparently, but I could switch to Gilles I guess, :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 11:19 PM
Gilles could end up being one heck of a MANAGER, for some corporation :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 11:21 PM
Anyway, joseph pierre gilles, is the ONLY beneficiary of PIERRE DAOUST, I don't see anyone else on that certificate.....


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 11:23 PM
Gilles Daoust Bonjour !!!.....let me practice a bit, Gilles Daoust HELLOSSS !!!.......office of Gilles Daoust what can I do for you....fuck it has rhymes... :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 11:25 PM
Here is what I remember..Scott said that there are no GIFTs in LAW. NAMES are accounts. What exactly is a GIVEN NAME?


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Chris Evan

Jun 19, 2014 11:25 PM
It must be some ACCOUNT. but WHO GAVE it to WHO?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 11:25 PM
The names your MOTHER gave you :/


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Chip Douglas

Jun 19, 2014 11:26 PM
...and a TAKEN name has more power in law


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Jun 19, 2014 11:26 PM
Oh fuck, what about Gilles becomes the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for PIERRE DAOUST ?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 19, 2014 11:27 PM
Please explain :)


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Jun 19, 2014 11:29 PM
Chris was trying to remember about what Scott had said about names regarding the law...i remember Scott said that, too


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Chris Evan

Jun 20, 2014 1:20 AM
given name n. A name given to a person at birth or at baptism, as distinguished from a surname.


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Chris Evan

Jun 20, 2014 2:22 AM
They are called surnames, because originally they were written over the name in judicial writings and contracts. They were and are still used for the purpose of distinguishing persons of the same name. They were taken from something attached to the persons assuming them, as John Carpenter, Joseph Black, Samuel Little, &c. See Name.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 20, 2014 2:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Given_name


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David-Paul Sip

Jun 20, 2014 3:06 AM
Okay, lost me on this GIVEN versus TAKEN name shit. I thought I knew Pete but now not so sure. That's a lot of fucking names you were GIVEN brother. I'm not one to talk though. I thought the names we were GIVEN is what ended up on the REGISTRATION and ultimately the BC. In your case it's just PIERRE DAOUST without the rest of your name train. Am I to understand that the GIVEN name has nothing to do with the REGISTERED NAME that created the PERSON? My Name was REGISTERED as DAVID PAUL. This is my PERSON on the BC. My GIVEN names are David-Paul Patrick.So if I use David or David-Paul then are these the names I have TAKEN?


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Scott Duncan

Jun 20, 2014 3:22 AM
JOHN DUNCAN is my GIVEN name. I am the 23rd to bear the name. I'm also THE LAST. It is not mine. and I have DESTROYED IT. SCOTT DUNCAN is my TAKEN name. It has existed since 1979.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 20, 2014 5:06 AM
TYCHO BRAHE (NX-25) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153262075655471&set=a.10151328203010471.814805.753335470&type=1&theater


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David-Paul Sip

Jun 20, 2014 5:33 PM
So a TAKEN name is any name you choose that is not REGISTERED? And the GIVEN name is the one that is DESTROYED by the PPSA and resigning from government ?


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 20, 2014 5:41 PM
<<You need to CLAIM the VALUE you have contributed to the name. Lien the shit out of it, and call yourself something else. No "given" name. Only TAKEN names have power.>> Scott Duncan


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jun 20, 2014 5:50 PM
<<JOHN is my GIVEN name. SCOTT is my TAKEN name. I've been SCOTT since childhood.>> Scott Duncan


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Chip Douglas

Jun 20, 2014 6:04 PM
Chris Evan "Collect your DEPOSIT and they go away.....that is providing TRANSPORTATION for the CARGO (also REGISTERED) back to the original DEPOSITOR" Chris- for the sake of clarity; what exactly did YOU deposit...you were pretty young when the BC was issued


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Age Thomson

Jun 20, 2014 7:01 PM
"Chris Evan OK....the VESSEL is REGISTERED to a FOREIGN BANKRUPT ADMIRALTY that is providing TRANSPORTATION for the CARGO (also REGISTERED) back to the original DEPOSITOR. Until the CARGO is RECEIVED on a WHARF or by a PARTY, it is subject to the rules of the FOREIGN ADMIRALTY. Yesterday at 2:44pm � Like � 8 .. Scott Duncan That's it in a nutshell." So.... Is it not possible then for another ADMIRALTY to simply receive it?


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Scott Duncan

Jun 21, 2014 5:00 AM
Yes.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 21, 2014 9:19 PM
Scott, what about "Letter of Marque and Reprisal"? Can you elaborate on this? http://www.constitution.org/mil/lmr/lmr.htm


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Scott Duncan

Jun 22, 2014 10:11 AM
Do you have a "nation"? No? Then why do you care?


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CJ ML

Jun 22, 2014 10:26 AM
Something I ran across, this is very disturbing. http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/index.shtml


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Scott Duncan

Jun 22, 2014 10:44 AM
Yes, this site's coding is very disturbing :D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 6:06 AM
SEE!!! DISTURBING!


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:06 AM
The "surname" would be what you consider your "last name". If your mommy & daddy GIVE you this first and middle name, what do they call you? I have a GIVEN name and I have a TAKEN name and no one denies these names to me. I TOOK them and I USE them. I don't allow the use of the MIDDLE INITIAL either. Think on that....


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:08 AM
Um... No. SUR a prefix meaning �over, above,� �in addition,� occurring mainly in loanwords from French and partial calques of French words: surcharge; surname; surrender; survive. NAME, this shit you think you "took"


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:10 AM
FIRST NAME = GIVEN NAME MIDDLE NAME = TAKEN NAME SURNAME = ABOVE YOUR NAME


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:11 AM
It's why the GOVERNMENT CLAIMS THAT NAME


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:11 AM
Shit!


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:11 AM
I took and use the middle name.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:12 AM
What is the "last name"?


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:12 AM
Me too... but i LIENED THE LIVING SHIT out of the LAST name.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:12 AM
LAST name is a CLAIMED SURNAME


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:13 AM
OK, I said the last name is the SURNAME.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:14 AM
NO!


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:14 AM
the SURNAME IS THE LAST NAME... NOT THE SAME THING!


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:15 AM
The government CLAIMS it (with proof) and says it's the LAST NAME that can be attached.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:15 AM
Let me look again at what I said...


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:16 AM
got it!


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:16 AM
:D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:17 AM
Nobody can legally attach a name ABOVE that "last" name.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:17 AM
Scott, you must be the only one still awake...haha!


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:18 AM
I get this!


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:18 AM
Now that the group is closed again, we will cover the MANY different KINDS of PERSONS you are, LEGALLY. There are MANY kinds. Lou Manotti reminded me that I had not covered that yet.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:19 AM
I'm eager to hear this. I like it being closed.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:19 AM
Scott, it's time for another article.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:20 AM
I've got 7 in the queue.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:22 AM
What's the holdup? :D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:24 AM
I have a: Navy Bank Trust Duty BANK Life These things hold up the articles that I get absolutely ZERO return on.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:25 AM
You have a Life?


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:26 AM
WAY more than you will ever know in 20 lifetimes.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:28 AM
The Bank and the BANK interests me. I know you don't care about what interests me; however, you have this group, you have your purpose. Trust Duty is also interesting.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:29 AM
THAT'S interesting? You should see my sex life! :P


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:30 AM
Yes, it is. I'm NOT interested in YOUR sex life, I'm much more interested in MINE. :p


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:30 AM
...mine's better. :P


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:31 AM
I'm REALLY glad for you! :D


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:32 AM
What is that saying about folks that "brag" about things? I must think about this. :p


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:32 AM
NOW, I know WHY these threads are so long! lol


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:32 AM
Not as glad as I am! Ceit Butler will be tasked with documenting my sex life. She will then release a world-wide best seller! FIFTY SHADES OF BUNNY!


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:34 AM
Did "Fifty Shades" steal your title? Since you are 3 years ahead? :D


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:35 AM
Poor Ceit! As is said in the South, "Bless her heart". :)


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:35 AM
No. that title is just a happy coincidence. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:36 AM
I can name 7 women off the top of my head that would kill to be in Ceit's position.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:36 AM
LOL! You should CLAIM it! Nevermind, they have already CAPITALIZED on the NAME.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:37 AM
Maybe, BUT they do NOT have Ceit's brain power.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:37 AM
FIFTY SHADES OF BUNNY will simply make the world forget about that "Grey" schlock.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:38 AM
*froget?


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:38 AM
:D


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:39 AM
"Grey" had hangups. No woman wants that baggage.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:39 AM
4 of the women on that list are smarter than me. Let that sink in.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:40 AM
Well, at least you admit that they are smarter. But, are they REALLY? Hmm


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:41 AM
Demonstrably.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:42 AM
See, that is ONE thing I don't get about women. If they are that "smart", what would they want with you?


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:42 AM
That sounded mean......sorry.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:43 AM
The fact that you need to ask the question, means that you could NEVER understand the ANSWER.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:43 AM
They must be computer programmers or mathematicians.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:43 AM
That's PART of what they do.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:44 AM
That's NOTHING to do with WHO they are.


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:44 AM
Female pirates? :D


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:44 AM
2 are, yes


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:45 AM
Now we are getting somewhere.....Female pirates MUST be smart and they MUST be sexy!


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:46 AM
They are NOT just Boat Bunnies......


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:46 AM
Boat Bunnies are not just Boat Bunnies!


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:47 AM
What? I thought they just made your life happy and don't drown. haha


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:47 AM
Do Boat Bunnies cook?


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:47 AM
You thought wrong, didn't you? :D


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:48 AM
Perhaps....your descriptions were less than flattering.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:48 AM
Yes they do!


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:48 AM
OH! I need them.......LOL!


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:48 AM
How so?


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:49 AM
Your musings have lead me to "think" they are there for entertainment purposes only.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 7:50 AM
They are! But they have to do SOMETHING when they aren't entertaining me!


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:51 AM
See? Less than flattering descriptions. Maybe you should spell out what their duties are, then I would not think wrong. :D


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 7:52 AM
Well, I would not think wrong about what Boat Bunny duties are....lol!


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 10:28 AM
Why would I care what your "wrong" thoughts are?


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Sue Rakestraw

Jun 24, 2014 3:06 PM
Good point.


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David-Paul Sip

Jun 24, 2014 3:12 PM
Scott Duncan <<FIRST NAME = GIVEN NAME MIDDLE NAME = TAKEN NAME SURNAME = ABOVE YOUR NAME>> Now this is something folks do not hear in FREE-DUMB land. First time I have seen this and it is SIMPLE. It makes sense. Fucking government...CLAIM my family's name? Oh it's so on now motherfuckers


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CJ ML

Jun 24, 2014 3:16 PM
SURNAME = "ABOVE YOUR NAME" Can someone please explain this further? I do not understand how "ABOVE YOUR NAME" works.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 24, 2014 3:19 PM
In extended space over and not touching :D


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David-Paul Sip

Jun 24, 2014 3:26 PM
<<Nobody can legally attach a name ABOVE that "last" name.>> Scott Duncan My understanding Jason is this is the how the government CLAIMS its jurisdiction <<The government CLAIMS it (with proof) and says it's the LAST NAME that can be attached.>> Scott Duncan


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CJ ML

Jun 24, 2014 3:28 PM
So, the GOVERNMENT is "claiming" to own the "rights" "Jurisdiction" to your Last name or family Surname?


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CJ ML

Jun 24, 2014 3:29 PM
Where is this "proof"?


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Will Bed

Jun 24, 2014 5:17 PM
MIDDLE NAME = TAKEN NAME How about I decide to take "Abcde" as TAKEN NAME ? What I take is none of their business, why would I even chose one of the names on that piece of paper ?


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CJ ML

Jun 24, 2014 5:28 PM
I should change mint to "Google Analytics".. Just to screw with the Gov't database admins. Of possibly Mr. Judge In Fact


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 5:34 PM
RE: Where is this "proof"? BIRTH CERTIFICATION.


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CJ ML

Jun 24, 2014 5:36 PM
So, they are claiming that the BIRTH CERTIFICATION, grants them true title to the Surname?


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 5:37 PM
Yes.


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CJ ML

Jun 24, 2014 5:37 PM
That's just fucked up..


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 5:37 PM
Yes.


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CJ ML

Jun 24, 2014 5:38 PM
I want to turn these bastards in to chum for a fishing charter..


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Scott Duncan

Jun 24, 2014 5:39 PM
I know the feeling!


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CJ ML

Jun 24, 2014 5:40 PM
Who wants to go Fishing? "You don't want to be on this boat." Gotta love international waters...


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CJ ML

Jun 24, 2014 5:54 PM
certificate? like a coupon or chuck-e cheese ticket?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 24, 2014 5:56 PM
Hey, relax, we have a solution :D


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