Language is programming.

Another particularly disingenuous individual has offered $5000 to the first person that can satisfy Marc Stevens' request for proof that states and citizens exist. http://marcstevens.net/board/showthread.php?tid=402

What happens if you use Cuneiform, Hebrew or Latin to create them?

Those states and citizens are existing in here somewhere.

Well I'm convinced! You better go get that $5000!

Explaining it is not worth $5000. I would rather keep my time.

How many dollars did you just lose by not explaining it?

To "lose" them, he'd have to HAVE them first. He's lost $0.00

Yawn.... http://vimeo.com/35743293

Alrighty then... How do you account for the value you attach to your time that you lost by not explaining how states and citizens exist somewhere?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_dodging

Do you even know what money is? The amount of pain required to explain it to morons is not worth $5,000.00 [aka: time]

Wow....this is a "my ignorance equals your hard work" argument...

I wonder how valuing the time of others time appreciates over time? This is a great example from Kevin Slavin: "The algorithms of Wall Street are dependent on one quality above all else, which is the speed. The algorithms operate on milliseconds and microseconds. It takes you 500,000 microseconds just to click a mouse. In New York people are hollowing out skyscrapers -- throwing out all the infrastructure for human use and installing stacks of servers for running those algorithms. Because people, inch for inch and pound for pound and dollar for dollar, will not produce what algorithms can produce in a microsecond."

Chris, surely you know the difference between a question and an argument.

Sigh....

it's all made up BS. Abracadabra: was a joke mocking language. Thus, language is programming. Then to compound the point, I put up the periodic table. Is a State or Citizen even capable of being a scientific element? No. Language is programming designed to make YOU do shit.

Jason Moreland...this guys ignorance equals the hard work we have put in. It also demands we answer his question. Scott Duncan, how in the fuck do you put up with us?

I lost no money. Because I the answer was not worth the time. You are the money, it is the labor creates the value. I calculated the amount of work and time required to prove something to a moron, then declined to answer. Which has obviously completely backfired. Because I am now completing that which I mocked. Because Matthew Gundry is the moron. It cannot be proven because the question is flawed to begin with. Arguing with idiots.

Strip away the catch phrases and ad hominems and we're left with a simple misunderstanding - which I'll even take the blame for as I didn't provide the tl;dr backstory to the $5000 reward. Believe it or not, I'm completely on board with the 'it's all BS' point of view re: states, citizens etc. As are the people behind this $5000 stunt.

Notice the JREF Prize is won if you can EVEN PROVIDE EVIDENCE! You don't have to PROVE it, you just need EVIDENCE.

Medical Definition of PARANORMAL : not understandable in terms of known scientific laws and phenomena <experiments in paranormal cognition of drawings�Psychological Abstracts>

PARANORMAL Denoting events or phenomena such as telekinesis or clairvoyance that are beyond the scope of normal scientific understanding. ww.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/paranormal

Evidence: The available body of facts or information indicating whether a "belief" or proposition is true or valid.

Anyone got a loan of a cross and a few nails?