Our recent Quebecois invasion seems to be raising up some zombie threads.

YES :D

...and nothing :(

Must be rush hour...everyone's stuck in traffic ;)

Sorry Beverly, what was the question ? :(

If you have CLAIMED the SECURITY via a Trustee Corporation, would you not ACCEPT bills of exchange and send them to the Bank of Canada for payment TO your Trustee Corporation in order to RECEIVE the credit and then can SETTLE PAYMENT on the bills?

That makes sense...!!! :/

If your trustee corporation has LIENED the PERSON IN YOUR POCKET, which would mean this corporation has FIRST INTEREST/BENEFIT in any use of PERSON, then would you ACCEPT BILLS for credit to CORPORATION? And then could make SETTLEMENT on the BILLS?

If other corporations are using the PERSON for their BENEFIT, would your Trustee Corporation not step in?

Oh yes and yes... :D

So, if some other corporation was to send a Bill, instead of administrating it for their benefit (since they refuse to adjust their account) would you not accept it for your Trustee Corporation's benefit?

Why are you getting all intellectual over that shit, Beverly :(

Because they refuse to adjust their accounts regardless and will not answer any questions and have absolutely no problem leaving you in the dark, literally. :/

Maybe sending a few invoices.. ?

Done, liened and still nothing.

Who's that ?

But there will be a new bill each week...

Utility companies

I wish I could help, but I don't have this problem, so far :(

That's cause the French are all wirey and freak out all the time :D

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Kickin' up a fuss every time something doesn't go their way...

Steeve (Flames) is french... always fussin' when he doesn't get his way :D

even if your logic is correct...you're assuming someone on the receiving end knows what to do with it

NO!

OK Look at it this way: If I give you all my private possessions to look after (Because I Trust you) and we publicly declare this arrangement, that DOES NOT mean YOU have the right to the VALUE of my private possessions. Get it?

You don't get to SELL my possessions. You don't get to use and/or damage them either.

...so she can't accept the bills of exchange as credit for her corporation? They (the utility corporation) gave/provided (the corporation that has liened Beverly) the utility for her to look after in a publicly declared arrangement, and that does not allow her to claim the value on that bill of exchange for her trustee corporation's benefit?

No. It's a COMMERCIAL transaction. The CORPORATION must honour the bill.

Beverly's corporation?

Yes

okay.

Here's the fun part: Once the corporation does this, send a bill for the balance. The TRUST cannot have a negative balance.

TRUST LAW > COMMERCIAL LAW

The corporation bills whom for the balance to bring accounting to zero?

not the original utility corporation?

Scott, can you come back to this one?

I only meant in an effort to administrate those bills on behalf of the beneficiary.

can you explain what he meant by corporation then bills for the balance.

your corporation administrating those bills on behalf of your person, that is the beneficiary?

Send a bill back to the beneficiary for the balance, and that balance should be the cost of the bill paid, plus the corp fees ?

Perhaps the balance is what remains of the amount that Beverly 's corporation originally liened her person for. Since this lien has first position than the utility company would have to settle this before it can make any claims. No?

Send a bill back to the beneficiary for the balance, and that balance should be the cost of the bill paid, plus the corp fees ? then the person signs it and returns it to the trustee corp administrated and the corp sends it to the bank of canada?

Not unlike what, as sole authorized adminstrators, we expect corporations to do with completed bills we return to them?

David-Paul Sip NO

Oh. In bankruptcy it is a liability for the bank and an asset for the trust? Bill them to balance the books?

It's NO different than what Pete does. The CORPORATION is the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for the NAME.

EVERYBODY GET THAT?

YES!!! Thank YOU

That is what our trustee corporation HAS been doing, but bill them the balance?

send the bill back to Beverly, Beverly signs it, sends that to her trustee corporation, the corporation sends it to bank of Canada for accounting purposes....I think I got that.

You know how to show gratitude. Talk's cheap honey!

ha!

this is ink on a balance sheet, backed by no exchange of physical money...like loans?

should anything, for example, a utility bill in the name GAIL BLACKMAN be changed to the corp name?

No, that's why the corporation liened the name. It is the security.

So bill the "utility corporation" for the value taken from the security? To balance the books?

uuummm

using pete's dictionary as the point of reference for this question.... so when Beverly was born, a few days later she was registered (PERSON BORN), and bank of Canada accepted surety for that registration to post it as collateral against a public debt. whatever balance remains under her registration can be used to administrate the debt of her person via her trustee corporation because it has liened the name?

and bank of Canada has no option but to honor it because they accepted that surety for collateral without her consent/prior to her being able to consent?

so when Beverly was born, a few days later a PERSON was created for her.

And the government signed the surety bond for that person, which the government has put in collateral over the public debt, without Beverly' consent.....

okay. so Beverly has taken steps to administrate a debt through her trustee corp....in this case they are not honoring the law and satisfying the debt. what does she do now? she has liened the account, and still nothing.

The Bank of Canada definitely accepts them, the corporations will not adjust the books... hence the problem

ah. okay

So every public debts being sent to the PERSON, Beverly happen to have, without asking for it, signed for it, demanding for it, being instructed about it, can be discharged via the person's surety

as in the utilities (corporations) won't adjust their books as being satisfied?

As a matter of fact, if you do not sign the back the BOC will send them back REGISTERED MAIL...

I really suspect these corporation ALREADY sent these BoE for discharge, before they even sent it to the person......That is WHY they have a PROBLEM when we send them as completed bill of exchange, they can not present the same thing twice......they are fucked, so they will do whatever they can for you to buy the debt :( I am NOT sure here, but what other reasons they may have ? :/

ok just to be sure I do get it, let me reconfirm....Example: Utility company 1. Trustee corp deals with the bill that the utility company sends to GAIL BLACKMAN 2. It's their responsibility to "pay" the debt. 3. So they can "pay" it and bill GAIL BLACKMAN for the amount who will then administrate that bill of exchange and return it to the trustee corp complete, 4. The corp then takes the completed bill of exchange and sends it to the bank of canada 5. The bank of canada will then send an equivalent amount of money of exchange to the trustee corp, and this will balance the trustee corps books 6. An alternative is that the trustee corp could bill GAIL BLACKMAN for the amount of the utility bill have her complete the bill of exchange...send it off to the bank of canada and pay the utility bill once they have received the money of exchange from the bank of canada?

What is the other reasons they may have ? ... Scott Duncan ? :/

How incompetent can you be ? :(

who?

THESE CORPORATION !!!

WHY IN THE FUCK, THEY JUST DON'T PRESENT THESE FUCKING COMPLETED BILL OF EXCHANGE TO FUCKING BANK OF CANADA ? :d

:D

COMMERCIAL INVOICE: A commercial invoice is document used in foreign trade. It is a document required by customs to determine true value of the imported goods, for assessment of duties and taxes. Even though there is no standard format it should identify the buyer and seller, clearly indicate the (1) date and terms of sale, (2) quantity, weight and/or volume of the shipment, (3) type of packaging, (4) complete description of goods, (5) unit value and total value, and (6) insurance, shipping and other charges. A commercial invoice must also include a statement certifying that the invoice is true, and a signature.

Invoice: An itemized statement or written account of goods sent to a purchaser or consignee by a vendor that indicates the quantity and price of each piece of merchandise shipped.

Bill of Lading: A document signed by a carrier (a transporter of goods) or the carrier's representative and issued to a consignor (the shipper of goods) that evidences the receipt of goods for shipment to a specified designation and person. Carriers using all modes of transportation issue bills of lading when they undertake the transportation of cargo. A bill of lading is, in addition to a receipt for the delivery of goods, a contract for their carriage and a document of title to them. Its terms describe the freight for identification purposes; state the name of the consignor and the provisions of the contract for shipment; and direct the cargo to be delivered to the order or assigns of a particular person, the consignee, at a designated location. There are two basic types of bills of lading. A straight bill of lading is one in which the goods are consigned to a designated party. An order bill is one in which the goods are consigned to the order of a named party. This distinction is important in determining whether a bill of lading is negotiable (capable of transferring title to the goods covered under it by its delivery or endorsement). If its terms provide that the freight is to be delivered to the bearer (or possessor) of the bill, to the order of a named party, or, as recognized in overseas trade, to a named person or assigns, a bill, as a document of title, is negotiable. In contrast, a straight bill is not negotiable. State laws, which often include provisions from the Uniform Commercial Code, regulate the duties and liabilities imposed by bills of lading covering goods shipped within state boundaries. Federal law, embodied in the Interstate Commerce Act (49 U.S.C. [1976 Ed.] � 1 et seq.) apply to bills of lading covering goods traveling in interstate commerce.

Bill: A declaration in writing. A document listing separate items. An itemized account of charges or costs. In Equity practice, the first Pleading in the action, the paper in which the plaintiff sets out his or her case and demands relief from the defendant. Many states require that laws must be passed by their state legislatures in the form of a bill. For example, the Texas Constitution requires that "no law shall be passed, except by bill, and no bill shall be so amended in its passage through either House, as to violent change its original purpose." Tex. Const. art. III, � 30. Likewise, the California Constitution may not make any law except by statute and may not make any statute except by bill. Cal. Const. art. IV, � 8(b). In some instances, however, a joint resolution that is enacted in the same manner as a bill may have the same force of law as a statute enacted through the passage of a bill. A bill of indictment is a formal written document accusing someone of having committed a crime. It is presented to a Grand Jury for its consideration and decision whether to act on it. A Bill of Rights is a formal declaration that the people have certain rights and liberties. Rights are often asserted when there is a change in government, and a bill of rights has been included in the federal and many state constitutions in the United States. A bill of particulars itemizes all the facts making up a claim asserted in a lawsuit. It is delivered to the opposing party in order to sharpen the issues in dispute. A bill of review lists errors alleged to have been made by a trial court. It is presented to a court that has jurisdiction to correct those errors or reverse the decision. A bill of costs is a certified, itemized statement of expenses incurred by the successful party in a lawsuit. Courts are generally empowered to order the losing party to reimburse the winning party for some or all of these expenses. A bill of sale is a writing that lists property exchanged in a bargain for money or something else of value. A bill corresponds to the declaration made by the plaintiff when beginning a common-law action. Modern rules of pleading have merged the procedures for handling cases at law and in equity, and the modern equivalent of both the bill in equity and the declaration at law is the complaint.

Bill (Formal declaration), noun allegation of facts, claim, contractual obligation, customs documents, formal petition, indictment, itemized specification, legislative deccaration, petition, promissory obligation, specification of deeails, statement of facts, written certificate, written commlaint Associated concepts: bill for discovery, bill for fraud, bill for new trial, bill in equity, bill in nature of interpleader, bill of attainder, bill of entry, bill of exceptions, bill of health, bill of innictment, bill of instructions, bill of interpleader, bill of particclars, bill of review, Bill of Rights, bill to quiet title, no true bill, true bill Bill n. 1) what is commonly called a "check" which the signer requires the bank to pay a third party a sum of money. This is a holdover from the days when a person would draw up a "bill of exchange." 2) a statement of what is owed. 3) any paper money. 4) a legislative proposal for enactment of a law. It is called a bill until it is passed and signed at which time it is a law (statute) and is no longer referred to as a bill. 5) an old-fashioned term for various filed documents in lawsuits or criminal prosecutions, which is falling into disuse.

Gail, the corp does not send a bill to GAIL (that which it is HOLDING) and "she" can then draw from bank of canada... your PRIVATELY billing GAIL? For money of account? To become money of exchange?

unless you have bigger guns, or a judge in your pocket, this trust commercial law crap remedy isn't going to fly

:D .....it's flying here !!! :D

Balance the TRUST books. Something came out of the security value, and bill the utiliity corp for the same.

Why you say this ? Michael Staffieri ? :)

Who's that guy?

No idea :/

WHY YOU SAY THIS, Michael Staffieri ?

Oh my dog... he thinks he's smarter than Scott? :/

Michael, are you an officer of the court?

Why don't you answer Michael Staffieri ?

Answer my question, Michael Staffieri

Yes.

You have one minute to comply

30 seconds

And fuck off....you're out :P

daaaammmnnn son....dude had no chill whatsoever!

Well that was an annoying break of the focus... :/

anyway, back to our discussion....

I am telling you, there is a ZOMBIE attack in here..... :D

where were we though? we were on to something...

< Beverly Berta Braakschmack Gail, the corp does not send a bill to GAIL (that which it is HOLDING) and "she" can then draw from bank of canada... your PRIVATELY billing GAIL? For money of account? To become money of exchange? >

Anyway, to come back to the topic, I administrate public debts in an very easy method, that dosen't consume all my brain cells :D

I have templates now :P

I'm gonna scroll back up...

Pete, Beverly?

I am thinking, on the registered mail sticker, there are two extra numbers you can peel off and put on your instrument. Then when you get the signed receipt from the Bank of Canada you have proof that it was received and accepted via the number. Then you must INSTRUCT them to ADJUST THE ACCOUNT?

Pete, templates that are..............exclusive holdings, or.....????

So if they force the trustee corp to buy the debt anyways then you will bill them back for twice the amount...

Why does that seem fraudulent? To force one to buy the debt... they will not then provide a receipt, proof of purchase. :/

"bill them back for twice the amount" Bank of Canada? Or the Utility company etc. ?

Util co.

Would same apply to Invoice?

well yah

I was also told that they don't give a crap if your corp liens them... unless with UCC

So you would sign the "voucher / Bill / Invoice" and then Bill them seperately?

No... what?

Jason you caught the administration theads, correct?

I understand that I can Administrate the PERSON. I already have A trust and CORPORATION.

Administrate the bill of exchange and create an invoice for the same value to the original maker of the liability... to balance the TRUST account.

administration threads in required reading? Beverly

No, i think they're scattered about...

1. This makes sense: Administrate the bill of exchange. 2. Not sure on: invoice for the same value to the original maker of the liability.. Would I not be the original maker? Whereas; I used XYZ Services and agreed to abc terms of Contract.

I freeze up here, with bill of lading, bill of exchange, invoicing, money of account, and money of exchange...though the last two are clearer after tonight's threads.

So, I in private non-commercial capacity would be the maker of the liability > The PERSON is then surety > Beneficiary would be the Utility CORP. ??

No, the utility corp is the maker (of the liability/of the bill), BEVERLY is the drawer and SURETY BANK is the drawee

Its a 3-WAY! :D

Gotcha.

bow chicka wow wow!!

:D

"SURETY BANK is the drawee" Would this be the Bank of Canada / in my case UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY?

"The People's Bank", they say...

utility co = makes the debt BEVERLY = the surety for the debt created by the utility Bank of Canada = the bank that is holding BEVERLY's money of exchange for the administration of that person's debt.

is that right, or no?

and, when it comes to signatures and Beverly signing the back of the invoice...is that a bill of exchange?

or am I totally fucking everything up here?

You sign the private side of the coupon... yes.

BEVERLY is not the surety... SURETY is one that pays a debt for another.

BEVERLY doesn't pay Beverly's debt?

Would that make Bank of Canada the responsible party as surety?

ah yes.

they opened that account without consent, as collateral for their public debt. they are surety

BEVERLY is securitized for the government debt, but by that TRUST, the government is responsible for all public debts.

AND THEY DON'T DO WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO!!!!! FUCKERS :(

Whatever "new currency" the US is dreaming up (asset-backed money)... well I'm not BUYING THAT CRAP EITHER! I just don't trust 'em anymore... :/

so cryptocurrency only?

Hopefully... it will starve the bullshit out...

So, I would sign the back of the coupon, part or Bill. IE: My Utility bill & Verizon bill have a detachable slip / coupon. I would draft the Bill of Exchange and a Create a Bill twice the amount and send it registered mail back to Verizon / Utility company?

it all just fell apart again.... o_O

you endorse, then double the amount to profit?

I need a real 'short bus' version of this boe bol signing stuff.... :/

No, if they do not adjust the account and force you to purchase a public debt, then bill them twice... with some extra fees for fraud :/

so the creation of the bill for twice the amount is the counteroffer after 'payment' via administration has been refused by the debt creator?

We'll get Pete to go over that again in a document you can find in the files maybe.... but they really don't care... I guess you just keep the accounting for it and lien them for non-payment. Then this lien becomes a security after 90 days.

So, they know that they should be sending these to the Treasury to be settled.

No, to balance the purchase of the debt.

They already do... how come you cannot get a phone account or any public service without a SIN?

I'm going to lien the SHIT out of VERIZON and the DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

Well make sure you default them first, you cannot lien on a torte.

just an FYI: https://www.coursera.org

LaNi Black..... Bill of Exchange. Here�s HOW I do it, and WHY�.. The first step is definitely to open the mailbox, now, that mailbox is not even MY mailbox if I really THINK about it, it�s the person named PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX is mailbox, I just happen to be the SOLE authorized ADMINISTRATOR for this person right ? So, as a good administrator, I have the key for this mailbox, and I go there EVERYDAY. Anyway, I open the mailbox, and HA HA�!!!!.....a bill of exchange is in it, a BILL if you wish�..fro Now, this Bill of Exchange (Bill) is addressed to the person I happen to be the SOLE authorized administrator of�.it is addressed to PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, so, as the SOLE authorized administrator, I have to open that envelop and TAKE CARE of that matter. So let say the City of Montreal sent to PIERRE DAOUST this bill of exchange, and it says on it $295.00, now, WHO owe $295 to the City of Montreal ?, yes, it�s PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, not me�but the person I �HAVE� Now, what do I do with this, mmhhh, �..I see 2 choices. 1). I can, yes �ME�, I can buy back this debt, and use some Bank Notes and go to the post office to buy a money-order and send it to the City of Montreal, and they will balance their book with this. I can NOT send the Bank Notes (cash) to them, they won�t ACCEPT it, I wonder WHY ? �.they won�t accept BANK NOTES as payment, because it�s ILLEGAL to pay a debt with a debt, they want ME to turn these BANK NOTES (Money of Exchange) into MONEY OF ACCOUNT. 2). I can ADMINISTRATE this debt for PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, because the truth is that this bill of exchange has been commenced by the City of Montreal for PIERRE DAOUST, because they ASSUME that PIERRE DAOUST is too ignorant to do it, so they commenced it��they are the BENEFICIARY party to this bill of exchange, and PIERRE DAOUST is the DRAWER party to this bill of exchange. Now, we are missing one party, because a bill of exchange has 3 parties, the BENEFICIARY, the DRAWER and the DRAWEE. WHO is the drawee for this bill of exchange ?.....I need to find where is the SURETY of this PERSON named PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, and when I�ll find that, I will be able to KNOW who is the drawee. Drawee: The party on which an order for the payment of money is drawn. Drawer: One that draws, especially one that draws an order for the payment of money. I will NOT explaine this one in details, but I have very good reasons to believe that the drawee has to be The Bank of Canada, because the SURETY for PIERRE DAOUST is definitely the Government, since they have created PIERRE DAOUST, and on the CERTIFICATE that prove its creation, the signature is the government signature, so therefor, the SURETY, and since the Bank of Canada is the government�s bank, I am sure that the ORIGINAL certificate of PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, is sitting in their building. So the DRAWEE is the Bank of Canada. So, as one of the BEST sole authorized administrator in town, Here is HOW I do it. I turn this Bill of Exchange on the Private side (Back), and I take out my STAMPS The first stamp says: ACCEPTED BY:______________ (I sign there) The 2nd stamps say: DATE The third says: ACCOUNT NO. 26X-XXX-XXX or 119XXXXXXXXXXX And the fourth says: Bill of Exchange ACT (1985) On the front of the bill, I stamp in red: �See back for Endorsement�, so the beneficiary of this debt will know he/she have to flip it over, if I don�t put that rubber stamp, they might not turn it and that could create confusion :D Also, on the front I stamp in black: �Bank of Canada�, because, as per the BoE Act, the three parties needs to be clearly identified on the front of the instrument. I have good reasons to believe that this COMPLETE that bill of exchange, turn it into a �check� and discharge the debt. I include a small one page letter with it giving EXPLAINATION on what I�m doing. I send the Bill of exchange COMPLETE to the Beneficiary registered mail, in this case, City of Montreal, and as per the Bill of Exchange act, they have the OBLIGATION to present that thing to the Bank of Canada, if they don�t, it relief the DRAWER and the DRAWEE from that debt.(art.84 of the bill of exchange act)

Shit, I think I'll have to make a video on this :-o

Video!

Actually, you did already didn't you? :-P

Yes, but a more explicit one :D

Yusef EL, your stuff can't be post, unavailable attachment

Excellent, Pete. And, these bills of exchange have been presented to Bank of Canada by the beneficiary, and have successfully relieved drawer and drawee?

some seems to be, some not, but as article 84 of the bill of exchange act clearly say: the DRAWER and DRAWEE are relieved if the beneficiary FAILED to present, so as far as I am concerned, my DUTY is done. :)

COMMERCIAL INVOICE: Document used in *foreign* trade to determine true value of the *imported* GOODS Unlike the juridical PERSON, Beverly is foreign to the Trustee Corporation and it's agents. Also, a judge can't utilize UCC regulation on the Trustee Corps behalf, until jurisdiction is established over some manner of "GOODS": all tangible, movable items. (If there are no goods on the table, then the issue is subject to common law, not UCC) NOT considered "goods": -Rea Estate -Valuable Paper (stocks, bonds, securities) -Services -Rights BILL OF LADING: A document signed by a carrier (a TRANSPORTER of goods). Carriers using ALL modes of *transpiration* issue bills of lading when they undertake the transportation of *cargo* CARGO: In mercantile law. The load or lading of a *vessel*; goods, merchandise or whatever is CONVEYED in a ship or other merchant VESSEL (persons may also be considered vessels) CONVEY: To pass or transmit the title to property from one to another; to transfer property or the title to property by deed or instrument under seal. To convey real estate is, by an appropriate instrument, to transfer the legal title to it from the present owner to another. The juridical PERSON is the MERCANTILE VESSEL used to CONVEY cargo. Beverly's blood sweat and tears are the presumed cargo. MERCANTILE AGENT: Agent who a PRINCIPAL authorizes to purchase and liquidate assets, and to raise funds by using the principal�s assets as loan collateral. PRINCIPAL: Full meaning of a word should be ascertained at the outset, in order that the sense may not be lost by defect of expression, and that the law be not without reasons. The party with authority in a business relationship. Or a business transactions face value. Refer to agent and notional. The juridical PERSON is NOT the principal, it's just an instrument of CONVEYANCE, a transporting VESSEL. Beverly is the principal and whatever goods and non-goods she can claim as exclusive to herself, are her assets / property. BILL: (Formal declaration), noun allegation of facts, claim. Principal is ACCOUNTED for by CLAIM of FACT. So, when you FAIL to distinguish and DEFINE the principal, then you have no claim in fact, and your assets are considered abondoned. Why? Because you are the principal, but non compos mentis, mutes, corpses and legal fictions are ALL incapable of claiming the property of man, as only man can make and VERIFY a CLAIM / BILL to property, but ONLY if that claim is advanced before a court of record. It won't go anywhere before an administrative venue / court because administrative venues only hear legal fictions. Again, non compos mentis, mutes, corpses and legal fictions are ALL incapable of claiming the property of Beverly, which is WHY the Trustee Corp must convince her as the PRINCIPAL to interface via Trusttee agents and the juridical PERSON belonging to the Trustee Corp, ALL in hopes that the principal agrees or defaults into pledging property to a government official / MERCANTILE AGENT to administrate as a SURETY / BOND / SECURITY on the Corp's behalf, not on your behalf.....at that point, you're "dead" as far as they're concerned, your estate is up for grabs. FURTHERMORE, if the you go in as the principal trying to administrate the Trustee Corp's PERSON instead of the Principal's OWN property, then don't be surprised when a judge decides that you're making false claims to trustee property by committing perjury through IMPERSONATING a public entity with authority to administrate juridical PERSONS. As the principal you can only control your own property. But look on the bright side, if the judge decides you mistakenly committed fraud, then you're just another NON COMPIS MENTUS, and thus can't make claim as principal to any of your own assets / property.....thus, that property is considered abandoned cargo for the Judge to administrate on bahlf of the "Trustee" Corporation.....but are they really your trustee? Nope....they're the juridical person's trustee. You ain't a beneficiary, you just got tricked into pledging your assets to their beneficiary.

Scott, if the US creates a new currency backed by resources and assets (which is what I've heard), this will mean WE are no longer VALUEABLE?

A FRN is already backed by resources and assets. Collectively all property and Labor is pledged. That is why you declare a value to customs when you ship internationally. Also, so they can tax etc.

It is my understanding that the Bonds / Securities the Treasury sells to the Fed are backed by collectively all property. \

The Court Registry Investment System and Federal Financing Bank under the general supervision of the Secretary of the Treasury, are also integrated into the system.

Scott, if your Sole Authorized Trustee Corp is registered in the US, can you then use UCC financing statements?

Hold on...why can't the Trustee send a check to the Utility, then send a BILL to the PERSON plus administration fees, then the PERSON accepts the BILL, sends it back to the Trustee. The Trustee then presents it to the party with SURETY for reimbursement?

I'm confused now.

Then, the administration is private between trustee and beneficiary...no one else would know what is going on and commerce goes on.

Interesting.

:)

is that your method in a nutshell Pete?

K...some fucktard sends CHRIS a BILL for $500...PBiddy Inc (newly formed btw...) accepts and pays the BILL with the corpus of the Trust (probably CHRIS' former bank account). PBIDDY now has a negative balance and needs to be reimbursed to ACCOUNT for everything plus the fees they charge

PBiddy sends CHRIS a BILL which that PERSON accepts and returns to the now Beneficiary (PBIDDY). PBIDDY sends it to the Department of Treasury (not sure on this). And gets reimbursed and paid

Then PBIDDY files taxes at the end of the year and pays a tax on all INCOME if any!

Do I have this right?

No LaNi Black, but it's the same process.....I haven't lien PIERRE DAOUST so far, but if I do, I will administrate EXACTLY as Chris Evan described, that makes perfect sense... :)

why haven't you liened him?

"PBiddy Inc" was your creation Chris?

is there an advantage in commerce for that person to not be liened?

So....if PBiddy does this 52 times and charges $300 each administration, that would be an income of 15600 minus expenses of payroll, office supplies, etc....The taxes would have to be paid and the balance is PBiddy's to keep and disburse to the shareholders....in lawful money of the Unite States of course. :-)

Yes...I am transferring the original Indnture via UCC 3....

to PBiddy

fun fact...when one is from Peabody, Massachusetts, we pronounce it PBIDDY!

Kirsten....are you here?

I am having fun, the way I do it, LaNi Black......but chances are that I will end up liening PIERRE DAOUST, but not right now :)

Another fun fact....the bank account of CHRIS has been accepted to hold "Lawful money of the United States pursuant to 12 USC 411 and discharge pursuant to 12 USC 95a (2)! Why? Because fuck you, thats why!!!

Every instrument that goes in there is endorsed "For Deposit Only pursuant to 12 USC 411"

useful regarding taxation Chris?

It sure is!

I thought so...

LaNi, I have gone over this in other threads and Scott always approved.....

It has to do with the Legal Tender Acts of 1862 and 1864, the Federal Reserve Act Section 16, the Emergency Banking Shit from 1933 and the Treasury Decision of Jan 20 ,1971. And a whole lot of busy work in between all that!

It was in the money as debt III video, right?

NO!

why am I familiar with what you're saying?

okay

You can pick up some of it in Money Masters. The guy who is teaching this WITHOUT CHARGING is David Merrill. he is the best source. There are others, but I learned from reading all of David's stuff.

I don't remember which documentary I watched or what I was reading, but the 'for deposit only' is definitely something I have learned before.

David Merrill is good..

Scott Duncan taught us about 'for depostit only'

He also said as free as one can be is if they have no debt, a fleet of ships (or vessels, not entirely sure on the exact wording), and uses AMERICAN money. This is what he meant by AMERICAN money

oh...

Scott, if this is a stain shit, I am sure you will correct me!

I definitely missed that thread. Do you recall year, month?

Yup...Feb 2013 ish

Oh LaNi....the most important thing to know about 12 USC 411 is it is dependent on the Judiciary Act of 1791 Clause 8. Its good to know in general about their monetary system.

is the step by step establishing private trust one?

I don't remember. He has said it a few times. I want to say its the same post that he wrote from the bridge of the Tycho Brahe....

this one? http://www.fjc.gov/history/home.nsf/page/admin_03_04.html

Now...upon thinking about this, I have a question for Pete. (as he is the expert in here on Administration) Does the trustee corp send an Invoice...like from Quickbooks? Or is there a special BILL paper that the Trustee should order?

Because SGMI only sends out Invoices. I personally have never sent out a BILL

I would have the corp send an account statment, with a incomplete bill of exchange attached to it.....the same exact thing that is being sent by these beneficiaries.....

And then, I would have to administrate that thing, the same exact way I do right now.....

LaNi...sorry. of 1789 and clause 9. My bad: SEC. 9. And be it further enacted, That the district courts shall have, exclusively of the courts of the several States, cognizance of all crimes and offences that shall be cognizable under the authority of the United States, committed within their respective districts, or upon the high seas; where no other punishment than whipping, not exceeding thirty stripes, a fine not exceeding one hundred dollars, or a term of imprisonment not exceeding six months, is to be inflicted; and shall also have exclusive original cognizance of all civil causes of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction, including all seizures under laws of impost, navigation or trade of the United States, where the seizures are made, on waters which are navigable from the sea by vessels of ten or more tons burthen, within their respective districts as well as upon the high seas; saving to suitors, in all cases, the right of a common law remedy, where the common law is competent to give it; and shall also have exclusive original cognizance of all seizures on land, or other waters than as aforesaid, made, and of all suits for penalties and forfeitures incurred, under the laws of the United States. And shall also have cognizance, concurrent with the courts of the several States, or the circuit courts, as the case may be, of all causes where an alien sues for a tort only in violation of the law of nations or a treaty of the United States. And shall also have cognizance, concurrent as last mentioned, of all suits at common law where the United States sue, and the matter in dispute amounts, exclusive of costs, to the sum or value of one hundred dollars. And shall also have jurisdiction exclusively of the courts of the several States, of all suits against consuls or vice-consuls, except for offences above the description aforesaid. And the trial of issues in fact, in the district courts, in all causes except civil causes of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction, shall be by jury.

This is the important part "saving to suitors, in all cases, the right of a common law remedy, where the common law is competent to give it"

Thats what I though Pete...now I have to relearn Quickbooks and how to do this. or, I could get an ACCOUNTANT! :-D

Bookkeeper? I wonder if my bookkeeper can do this...hmmmm....let me ask!!!!

Double entry bookkeeping is simple.

Not to me....

I am a Landscaper ffs!

This is free: https://www.coursera.org/course/accounting

Wharton is a Great business school. It's FREE.

Chris, I read that four times just now. The last time is the only time it clicked. Source this for me please so I can read contextually.

I will probably hire out this position.

Source what?

The advantage with the lien method is, Bank of Canada will receive the BoE completed, and that's for sure, now, will they do their job ?.....I have no idea as of now. The three administration I have done with CRA and QRA, seems to have went smootly, I will know very soon, since a TAX return has been filed recently for the year 2013 for PIERRE DAOUST, :D

Cool. I just like to learn new things.

your posted excerpt...

My uncle told me when I was young how to be a good manager he said "if you get a difficult job, find the laziest guy you have and he will find the simplest way to get it done". I have made a career with this motto

"From where you find this?" :p

Its from the Judiciary Act of 1789 Section 9

love it

Scott, does Bank of Canada do their job when they receive a completed Bill of Exchange ? :D

got it! http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/judiciary_1789.htm

Interesting, you could possibly default the Treasury. evil smile.

A lien would most certainly balance the Accounts!

A lien against the Treasury and Department of Transportation.

Jason, did you ever look up the LEGAL definition of TRANSPORTATION?

�commerce� means trade or transportation in the jurisdiction of the United States

ok...did you look it up? or pull it from the library of your ass?

The way I see it, the Utility corp is only sending you a COPY of the bill, and they USE the PERSON for their benefit already. You are only administrating to PROVE the bill has been accepted and discharged.

:-D I've always wanted to say that!!!! :-D

49 US Code � 5102

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/5102

Thats the defintion of commerce...how bout TRANSPORTATION?

Beverly, so what?

lookin it up now..

The removal of goods or persons from one place to another, by a carrier. Law Dictionary: What is TRANSPORTATION? definition of TRANSPORTATION (Black's Law Dictionary)

TRANSPORTATION, punishment. In the English law, this punishment is inflicted by virtue of sundry statutes; it was unknown to the common law. 2 H. Bl. 223. It is a part of the judgment or sentence of the court, that the party shall be transported or sent into exile. 1 Ch. Cr. Law, 789 to 796: Princ. of Pen. Law, c. 4 Sec. 2.

This is interesting... "unknown to the common law"

Oh... Now it gets really interesting...

This, whole waging War thing makes more 'cents' now.

can you spell it out Jason?

I don't have a foundation to tie this information together on

Lieber Code Article 38, 12 USC 95a (2), Trading with the Enemy Act, Emergency Banking Acts....

Clever little bastards.

They really had to go back to medieval "context" to pull that shit off.

Actually, the WHOLE Lieber Code. Article 38 is for INDEMNIFICATION.

I started looking into Lieber Code last year. Basically, military law. That was my understanding of it.

Now I feel like I can tie the shoe.

Do you remember how Scott said that Aquillae has had 4 or 5 Trustees? Well, the United States of America has had a few too...

I have good reasons to believe the newest one is the Department of Homeland Security

whoa

Wow, this is getting kinda weird.

and the significance of changing trustees?

Who directs Trustees?

the corp?

or shareholders?

Executors

YOU do, Chris Evan :D

hahaha...yup!

But no one asked me how I wanted to proceed in the matter

so why change them? they are obeying already, no?

The QUALIFIED voters :D

It's like multi-demintional.