OK, FIRST, there is no "philosophy" here. DUMP THAT SHIT NOW! You are welcome here. Your delusions are not. Be silent, and follow instruction. It really is that simple. Don't like it? Leave. I am the only one who's EVER told the truth about all of this. THE ONLY ONE. READ. Read the ENTIRE GROUP. It won't take you long to figure out why I appear a little hostile, to your seemingly innocent position.

According to my philosophy, ALL belief is EVIL. So what you just said is EVIL.

THE #1 RULE OF THE UNIVERSE: Scott Duncan IS ALWAYS RIGHT You are going to go through three phases in accepting this reality: 1: You will think I'm "arrogant", and motivated by "ego" because that's all your crippled brain can conceive at the moment. 2: You will start seeing REAL WORLD EXAMPLES proving this #1 rule, and wonder what "magic" or "genius" I have, and you will waste time theorizing on that. Each time, I will tell you that I DO NOT POSSESS ANY MENTAL POWERS THAT YOU DON'T. YOU ARE PROGRAMMED. THAT'S ALL. You will see that I am right, each and every time. 3: You will realize, that MY knowledge SHOULD have been COMMON knowledge, and it was stolen from you. ONLY THEN will you actually be in a position to learn. Pete Daoust has already gone through this, so you might want to listen to what he says.

Someone else told me what my only right was.....I think I will go with that for 2 reasons. Reason 1: the #1 Rule of the Universe. Reason 2: Because I don't know what a "right to action" is

The fun part about having met with Scott Duncan, live, is if one day someone ask me: Pierre, have you ever met with a MAN ? ....I will be able to answer: Ho yes, of course !!!... :-D

Annie can go cook an egg :-P

Please define the following, as used in your post : - human right - action - property ME, I no longer answer questions nor comment on statements I dont seem to understand... And maybe that will help a) you figure out where you have gone wrong, and b) us understand how/why you came up with that statement/question, and consequently c) maybe get you on the right track ?

Human Right=natural right to my life. Action=movement to sustain my life. Property=that I which produce from my action to sustain my life. I am not wrong.

And where would those "rights" come from ? Would, for example, helping someone you dont know, or a bee drowning in a pool, contribute to "sustaining your life" ? Would breathing be "acting" ? Please provide examples of what would be "property" ?

Careful Michael! You are walking into a trap :D Will Bed pays attention in class. ;)

Article I. Every human being has the right to life, liberty and the security of his person. I can use the person I have to do business, or not. PERIOD If business is being FORCED on the person, I happen to have, well, I can use the SECURITY/SURETY of that person, to clean the stainshit :D HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! :P And IT'S NOT MY FUCKING FAULT.... :D

It matters not where those rights come from, the fact that I exist is what matters, my life is what I value most if I do not have my life I do not exist(Scarcity) If the value associated with the action of helping someone I don't know or bee drowning in a pool is greater than the risk that I assign(Opportunity Cost). I never really thought about breathing as action, but yes I would say it is an action. A perfect example of property is the right to action.

Here we go again, I will have to re-learn English :(

A perfect example of property is the right to action WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN ?? :/

Pete Daoust you have no guarantee of property (unless you claim yourself as property but that is semantics even then you still must be able to sustain and protect it) only the right to action.

I apologize if my English is poor or my grammar is not up to your standards. I am on my phone.

But, do you have a PERSON ? :/

DO YOU "HAVE" A PERSON ?

Sorry Pete meeting, I will do my best to answer this as I have been reading through your group and yet to find what exactly you mean by a PERSON.

A "person" was created for me, a few days after my birth, (16 days to be exact), and that person was sent to me, so I could use it to do business.... Does the same thing happened to you ?

Pete are referencing a Birth Certificate?

No fuck, I am referencing on: A "person" was created for me, a few days after my birth, (16 days to be exact), and that person was sent to me, so I could use it to do business.... Does the same thing happened to you ?

No and by who would this person be created by?

The government...with the help of your mommy and poppy....

So you must come from another planet, or something :D

Sorry to tell you this, Michael Rame, but you KNOW nothing, you have no clue, and you are a complete IGNORANT, same as I was 3 years ago... :D HAHAHAHAHA!!!.....oh the truth can hurt sometimes :D It took me a good 24 hours to ADMIT it....that was not easy :D

The truth never hurts when you are looking for it constantly.

In fact, it DOES matter where your rights come from ;) I know a lot of PEOPLE who exist yet that doesn't mean their existence is valuable... even to themselves... The risk you assign / opportunity cost ? What's your benchmark for "risky" ? What kind of risk is associated with LEARNING ? How is the "right to action" "PROPERTY" ? I have good reasons to believe Michael Rame you are a bit confused, you'll have to clear that freedumb bullshit/beliefs and start living in the real world ;) where facts exists, and facts can be proven, if you stop believing, start learning and asking questions... What do you value in your life ? What's your life worth ? And why ? What are you doing with your life right now that is valuable ? Don't get me wrong, I'm not doing this to bash at you at all, but you must answer those questions to find out where you have gone wrong ;)

WOW!!..Will Bed, what the fuck happened to you ? :D

What do you mean ??

You write smart stuff... :)

As I said; Will Bed does his homework. ;)

It seems like you are surprised Pete Daoust ??

Yes I am, and it's fun !!....I like this when it happens :)

I'm surprised Pete Daoust is the "star student". Intelligent people from Quebec are as surprising as intelligent people from the United States... You know they exist, but it's really surprising when you actually SEE one.

:D

I need to find more Will Bed.....fuck is it ever fucking tough... :)

Mackximus Minimus would maybe qualified, but he has this "room booking" issue ! :P

Hahaha! :P

What can I say, I am a cheap administrator when it comes to paying to crash in any bed, just for a few hours. But next time I visit there will be so much luxury, it will be Biblical! Hahaha!

In fact, it DOES matter where your rights come from ;) The right to life is the source of all rights, my rights are not granted by man, never have been. If you want to say my rights are granted from a creator or a group of protons and neutrons gathering because of gravity it doesn�t matter to me, I won�t interfere with your dirt worship or theistic worship don�t push either my way as I don�t care what you do with your non soul or soul. I am asking a question of you �where do your rights come from? Do you buy into the idea of the mystical demagogy of the state granting you rights through a monopoly of force point guns at you tell what business you can conduct and what business you can�t conduct or do you just play the game? I know a lot of PEOPLE who exist yet that doesn't mean their existence is valuable... even to themselves... I think that is a subjective statement their existence is not valuable to you, but why do they still live if they have a zero value to themselves? The risk you assign / opportunity cost ? Our lives are made up of values, numbers if you will even credit and debits if that helps your accounting minds. Physics would use some of these equations Work = Force � Displacement � Cosine(theta) W = F � d � cos(theta), Power = Work / time blah blah blah every operation we perform our brain and our body assigns a value, If that function is more costly than the required energy used to maintain operational functions for life then it will not perform it, even breathing. Opportunity cost- there is no such thing as sacrifice or selfishness. What's your benchmark for "risky" ? This is a fluid dynamic contingent on timing. What kind of risk is associated with LEARNING ? No risk associated with learning. Learning adds value. How is the "right to action" "PROPERTY" ? Property is not acquired unless by action. Since the right to life is the source of all rights, then the right to property is the only way to sustain one�s life, without property no other rights are possible. If one does not have right to which he produces he cannot sustain his life. The answer to the below questions are mine and mine alone. Nothing personal but I have answered these along time ago and they continue to evolve. What do you value in your life ? What's your life worth ? And why ? What are you doing with your life right now that is valuable ? I do not take offense. Please indicate where you believe I am confused. You might want to take a bit of your own advice you said I should stop believing, yet you stated I have good reasons to believe Michael Rame you are a bit confused. I enjoy exchange of ideas I have yet to see any form concretized ideas coming from this group.

Do you "have" a person ? :/

Pete I bet I do have a Person and he is probably a bad motherfucker!!

A person is a thing, a TOOL you can, or not, use to do BUSINESS with.....so it's a it, not a he... :P

I am a MAN, and I "have" a PERSON, so I get to ADMINISTRATE that person I happen to "have".

Take the time to READ this...... Article I. Every human being has the right to life, liberty and the security of "his" person.

Cool I get that. I have no idea where to find my PERSON.

It's in your pocket :D

There should be a Birth Certificate somewhere, wich is the SURETY/SECURITY bond, in regards of that person, you happen to have, you will also find the person's registration number on it....

Yeah I keep it in a safe both SS Card and Birth Certificate.

The Inter-American Commission on Human Rights is still just another piece of paper that indicates that humans rights are only granted and protected by the collective. Please tell me more.

This practice would lend legitimacy to an already illegitimate claim that is only backed by a monopoly of force. I am still very curious.

Ok, I am not a fan of those piece of paper, but WHO will deny me the RIGHT to the SECURITY of the PERSON, I happen to have in my pocket ? :D

I might, if I'm in a bad mood...

That is WHAT I do since two years, I am looking for an IDIOT, who will take this right from me.....so it will be OFFICIAL that I AM A FUCKING SLAVE... :P

I will finish my way, by being a FREE man, or a SLAVE, nothing in between :D , and I will make sure I have the NAME, address, inscription number, of the PERSON who will make that call :P

The truth is the truth, no matter who says it :D

Holy shit... Where should I start ? To hell with my soul or non soul or protons bullshit... I don't play. I administrate. Some PEOPLE only live because their PERSON has value... THEY, on their own, are worthless sacks of shit... Why do you think the state created all those welfare programs but they keep abusing innocent men an women !!? Funny how, in french, "innocent" means both "stupid" and "not guilty"... The source of ALL RIGHTS is your CONSENT, and depending on your understanding of who you are, claiming that YOUR rights are not granted by men and never have been can lead YOU (or you) to quite some trouble, ask Dean Clifford... So Michael Rame tell me, all that property which was acquired by action, who is the owner ? Now, dont be afraid to answer those questions you claim are yours alone, they might VERY WELL be a great clue as to where you have gone wrong... And we're not going to GIVE AWAY answers to brainwash you, that wouldnt help you LEARN and UNDERSTAND the TRUTH... So please answer the above question and those you did not answer, and then we'll try to put your illusions aside and the puzzle together ;)

:D

This thread is getting too intellectual for me :D

Last time I had an intellectual conversation was..... Fuck, I can't recall ?

Well, I am in QUEBEC, so there is that :/

You Canadians are so sweet.

Play ball!!!

They where sweet once in 1980, and once in 1995 :D

Maybe in 1992 too, but I don't recall that one :/