The Tender For Law

Volume 6

Jun 02, 2014 9:30 AM

Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Ok well I am putting it out here.

The BIBLE is a book of commerce, from what I now understand. It is put forth to most as a reflection of what it really is. Those who follow the bible really have absolutely NO FUCKING IDEA what it means unless some �minister� tells them what it means. Because who could really read that thing and have a clue what any of that shit means other than it is a FICTION book.

But when some guy tells you �this is what it means� and �this is how you should live TO BE HAPPY�... everyone goes with that. Yet that same �guy� diddled your son you find out later... but let�s ignore that...

... Yes, the only way to be happy is to listen to that guy.

Here�s an example of what someone I care about who has been brought up very religiously sent me after sending them my �NOT MINE� booklet:

"Romans 13:6-8 6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God�s servants (so now figure out who is �god�, huh?), who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor."

So �god� must be a bank then, correct? Oh, but that �minister� forgot to tell you HOW TO PAY. RESPECT=Accept. FOR HONOUR=Accept for Honor, or Supra Protest. It is described in the �Bills of Exchange�. Who�d have thunk?

And here, I acronym: FFS! It is easy to see once you ACCEPT THE TRUTH OF IT ALL.

and more...

"Romans 13: 5,6

5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience."

Yes! They created this shitty MONEY OF DEBT... and you are going to either figure out how it works, with another delusion of shitty public school system (which would be impossible), or by yourself (otherwise known as basically impossible)... and your left with...

oh right. Warehouse... for your benefit?

Here�s the rest of that response:

�Does this make any sense? Rules are meant to be followed? Yes? - It creates harmony and respect each other. Please work on paying your utility billings - I would not want them to put a lien on your property that you live in and have paid into for so long.

-Also everyone is out there earning a living, paying taxes, paying bills - are you thinking our govt will pay our way? just because we are its property? It is merely a way of tracking our existence and making sure we "pay our own way for the privilege of living here." The bigger question is - Would we get that opportunity else where in this world? On another note though - I always admired your strength of always giving 100% of yourself when it came to learning something or figuring out how to do something - Always training yourself how to do things that are crazy difficult for most but you dive in and research or keep pushing yourself to find out how to make it work (web designing, renovating and earning your interior design certification, just to name a few) With that in mind - I think your disappointment in our govt run country should be taken with a different approach - Politics!! LOL better to understand from this inside!!�

...wow

So, does anyone see how this �bible�, by way of its �teachers/ministers� has misconstrued what is going on?

On that note, can we not "bounce" bible thumpers so quickly and maybe show them their delusion? Like the last fella so recently bounced. :(

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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Proverbs 25:2 >> It is the glory of God(previously determined as banks) to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings(men and women whom the credit comes from) is to search out a matter.

Think about it!

Kenneth Paul

who is god?

YOU are.

your his representative on earth.

you are created in his immage.

in the heirarchy of authority there is

god the missing capstone

man gods representative here on earth

government who recived from god limited authority to do godly works here on earth

government agents who carry out the good works.

Delight Altine Byrne

God's representative? What are we representing exactly? And if this is the case, which I highly doubt, actually, don't believe at all...then we are doing a lousy job and if I were God, I would fire our asses!

Kenneth Paul

my belief is immune to extrodinary shit. if you agree then great if not then its just annother belief like mine. no more no less. i am good enough to accept others beliefs on equil footing to my own. i have nothing to prove or force its just imo.

Delight Altine Byrne

I don't believe we were put here for any reason or as a representative of any higher being...we created God when the stars were falling from the sky, or when the weather wouldn't cooperate and there were droughts or too much rain...we made sacrifices to appease the Gods...maybe that volcano wouldn't erupt if we cut the heart out of one more virgin, or threw one in the caldera...is that that same God we are trying to "represent"? I BELIEVE we are here thanks to evolution....why we need to find purpose in our lives in the name of some pyramid scheme is beyond me. Why is it that we can't be grateful and appreciative of the life and the earth we have inherited from our ancestors? Why not make the best of the world and life we have been born into...try to improve it if we can and die knowing that we brought no intentional harm to anything while we were here. I guess reality just isn't good enough, so we need to have a spin...to make life worth living. Well I believe in two things...a beginning and an end. I will try to make the best of the stuff between; and I, personally, don't need a God to point me in the "right" direction.

Delight Altine Byrne

Oh I know Beverly, we created the money when barter and trade weren't good enough...we need commerce...so we have put a number on the the side of a pig to give us a set price...we make it up as we go along...I will never argue with you there...and money based on gold???...yet when the shit hits the fan the gold and barter/trade will be worth something still...the money will be worth what we will continue to BELIEVE it is worth until people wake up and see that it isn't really worth the paper (plastic) it is written on. But the bottom line is that we don't factor in the externalities...so it will always be a economically fictitious world in which we live. But as long as we have religion...we will have war...we will have a growing economy based on our imaginary resources...in our imaginary world that we have created. Makes me shake my head and say WTF PAF.

Anibal Jose Baez

<<The BIBLE is a book of commerce, from what I now understand. It is put forth to most as a reflection of what it really is. >> Is this you, Beverly, or quoting someone else? :/

I take it as an offence now when anyone within this group tries to even imply the "bible" has anything to teach at all, and/or has any "truth" concerning reality. There is no answers in a made-up book, written by appointment by an evil pseudo-culture centuries ago, with the purpose of ENSLAVING US.

I am confused by this post. I am not clear when is Beverly Berta Braakschmack saying something, or quoting someone at times.

Beverly, I ask you: do you feel with the authority/author to interpret anything from that fantasy book you happened to NOT write? So, we should help "lost" religious people by telling them that they are looking at the "bible" the "wrong way," for they should see it as a "commerce handbook" instead? We should recommend others to read the "bible," and look for commercial "clues"? Do you believe there is ANY "truth" in the "bible" at all?

I think the best thing to say to anyone that believes in ANYTHING the bible says is: the truth! That it is 100% bullshit from start to finish, and must throw it away, or burn it. Then, one must condemn the "bible", and any other magical books.

And fuck this! <<Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.>>

Scott Duncan

*Irrelevant babbling deleted. *

The ONLY BIBLE YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO, IS THE ONE THAT TOUCHES COMMERCE.

I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S/CULTURE'S DELUSIONS.

NEITHER DO YOU IF YOU WANT TO LEARN ANYTHING HERE.

Anibal Jose Baez

Yes Blake Gardner, we know you are a "bible lover". You do not need to leave "clues" about it. Christians love to do that shit, to feel "deep", and with "special knowledge". He is really trying to send a "secret message."

Anibal Jose Baez

What is the INTENT and PURPOSE of Blake quoting the bible? Why did he posted that bible verse? He is a coward, as all Christians. He is afraid to directly say what he thinks, and uses stupid bible verses to cover the fact that he is in fact a coward.

This is what Blake Gardner FULLY intended to communicate: that we should tame our tongues, because tongues are evil, and poisonous! Because Yahweh get's pissed!

<<James 3

Taming the Tongue

3 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.

3 When we put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. 4 Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. 5 Likewise, the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. 6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one�s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.

7 All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and sea creatures are being tamed and have been tamed by mankind, 8 but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.

9 With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings, who have been made in God�s likeness. 10 Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be. 11 Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? 12 My brothers and sisters, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.>>

I call you out on this one, Blake. What is the INTENT, and PURPOSE of posting that bible verse?

Kenneth Paul

believe as we believe or get the fuch out eh?

no room for your belief in this group. we are of a closed hive mind.

believe like us or we will attack you.

got any david koresh dna in you? maby you can stop by on your way to mount carmal and we can trade insults in person.

Ceit Butler

No, you see, we DON'T believe. If you've done any reading through this group, you must have seen the often-repeated "Scottism" stating that "ALL BELIEF IS EVIL". And this applies to more than just religion. If you "Believe" something, it means you have accepted it as being true, with no evidence to back the claim up. It means you've swallowed this line, whichever line it is, on faith and you have stopped thinking about it. No further investigation occurs.

Ceit Butler

Being a Theist, you can't see how insidious this type of behaviour is. Hell, we just covered this LAST night. I'm feeling lazy, so I shall copy-pasta the rest of my argument. :p

"Ceit Butler Your acceptance of the concept of a "god" is what leaves you open to victimization by the government. If you do not remove that first, you will ALWAYS be tripped up by faith in something. Belief in one lie means you can be talked into swallowing pretty much any other lie."

Ceit Butler

"Ceit Butler You're basing your entire life around something which not only has NO evidence to corroborate it, but a MOUNTAIN of evidence that disproves it. See how that's a problem? Accepting someone's word that something is true without any proof to back it up. Gee, kind of sounds like our current legal system, doesn't it?"

Ceit Butler

"Ceit Butler Even bigger tip to newbies: Ditch the "god delusion" upon entering, or you're never going to have even a snowball's chance in "Hell" of escaping the government's control. You've already submitted, fully, to an invisible "authority" who presents you with ZERO evidence of any right to rule you. You accept this all as being true, based on words written by men.

Is it really that hard to see the parallels there? We've been submitting to the government, a, for all intents and purposes, "invisible authority", whose only evidence of their "right to rule us" is based on words...written by men...

Do I really need to make that any clearer?"

Anibal Jose Baez

Kenneth Paul, YOU came here. You requested to join this group. Scott added you by your own submission.

Was it a "Calling" from "god" that made you join this group? Did not "god" warned you in advance, via "prayers," not to join this group if you were an intolerant adult with imaginary friends?

This group is anti-DELUSIONS in general, not just YOUR delusions, Kenneth. If this offends your imaginary sky-daddy, please leave now. Neither us, nor you have anything to offer here, then.

Kenneth Paul

you, afaid to use your real name otherwise known as maximus minimus are an idot. to me god is not some 3party diety or reference point in the universe. to me god is all encompassing everywhere all the time within.me and without me and everywhere i am not

goddian of the universe please save me from self referencing assumtionists with preconcieved notions of who i am and what i believe.

from my point of reference you are not even in the same solar system. you idiot enjoy creating imaginary enemys of your own creation.

btw. your following the script to the letter. how did i know?

Rick Hiltz

courts take no judicial notice of any thing in the bible yet they swear you in on it as if it means some thing they even tell you in the 1960 bill of rights that "Canada was founded on the supremacy of God and the rule of law" now just analyze that statement they recognize God as being a supreme being .........but he couldn`t possibly create supreme laws to govern his creation so man had to show him the way

Ceit Butler

"goddian of the universe please save me from self referencing assumtionists with preconcieved notions of who i am and what i believe."

It doesn't take "preconceived notions" to see that you are an illiterate fuckwit who accepts things on faith.

And seriously, what is it with you theists and your fear of women? Why are my comments the only ones that are consistently ignored?

Ceit Butler

Well, Kenneth Paul? Let's hear your rebuttal to my oh-so-very valid points.

-Your acceptance of the concept of a "god" is what leaves you open to victimization by the government. If you do not remove that first, you will ALWAYS be tripped up by faith in something. Belief in one lie means you can be talked into swallowing pretty much any other lie.

-You're basing your entire life around something which not only has NO evidence to corroborate it, but a MOUNTAIN of evidence that disproves it. See how that's a problem? Accepting someone's word that something is true without any proof to back it up. Gee, kind of sounds like our current legal system, doesn't it?

-Even bigger tip to newbies: Ditch the "god delusion" upon entering, or you're never going to have even a snowball's chance in "Hell" of escaping the government's control. You've already submitted, fully, to an invisible "authority" who presents you with ZERO evidence of any right to rule you. You accept this all as being true, based on words written by men.

- Is it really that hard to see the parallels there? We've been submitting to the government �a, for all intents and purposes, "invisible authority"� whose only evidence of their "right to rule us" is based on words...written by men... Do I really need to make that any clearer?

-"The Bible is true because the Bible says so!"

-"You must follow this law because this law says so!"

Any fucking questions?!

Kenneth Paul

no thanks

i a man; enjoy stepping on your red itchy volumous bulging mass of inflaimed skin hanging just inside the cheek of your ass. we. are just getting started.

just changed to golf shoes. the logging boots are too heavy.

Ceit Butler

Whatever your concept of "God" is, it is based entirely on faith. A ludicrous notion, requiring ZERO evidence to back it up, and allowing one to turn a blind eye to all evidence that negates aforementioned notion.

Anibal Jose Baez

Give me the ban button. I promise a massacre that would leave Herod in shames. Any survivors would be locked in a room, and tied to a chair to listen to Blake's shitty trash metal band for eternity. That's hell! :D

Steve Lemieux

It's all fiction. How you choose to interpret the respective fiction you're dealing with at the moment is YOUR choice or decision. All bibles, courts, laws, authority, money, governments; heck even the English and most other languages. All fiction. No? Who gives a flying fuck anyway?

This post seems to have opened some kind of can O worms [that one was for you Adam], why is that so? Did it offend a belief/worldview you have? Did it offend your superiority complex? What's your boggle? Better yet, what's your agenda?

Maybe some people [including myself] should start looking at themselves rather than waste energy bashing others who might not favor the same "fictions" they do; that might be more productive. What makes your "fiction" better than the one of someone else?

Just an observation...[and more can O worms...] ;)

Ceit Butler

It's not a matter of bashing others, look deeper than that. Theists base their entire lives around belief in some supreme authority, with no "evidence" other than a piece of paper that tells them that they have to. This mirrors our government/legal system.

If you can be fooled by one, you can be fooled by the other. Attempting to escape from one is futile, that flaw in your thought process will always allow you to be ensnared again by the next piece of paper that sounds good.

Blake Gardner

A man only begins to be a man when he ceases to whine and revile, and commences to search for the hidden justice which regulates his life. And he adapts his mind to that regulating factor, he ceases to accuse others as the cause of his condition, and builds himself up in strong and noble thoughts; ceases to kick against circumstances, but begins to use them as aids to his more rapid progress, and as a means of the hidden powers and possibilities within himself. J/A

Steve Lemieux

I agree Ceit, but it is my experience that SOME people who may have been sucked into religion have questions as to how things REALLY work in the world and, personally, I don't mind exposing them to the fiction they're been fooled into. Why not just share the knowledge and let the pieces fall where they do?

Michael Atkins

Let me think.... to date I've been labeled crazy conspiracy theorist, blasphemer, all kinds of Crap and I take pride in the fact they have no means of arguing there bullshit any longer ..... we only but heads when my dad tries to give parenting advice.....

Scott Duncan

Just finished reading Kenneth Paul's bullshit. I'm sure there are a bunch of "quiet" christians who think we're really bad for not "accepting his beliefs" and being "tolerant" of them.

Someone explain why I must tolerate delusion. Why do you delusional fuckwits think your delusion has the same standing as my knowledge?

ALL BELIEF IS EVIL. ALL OF IT. If you BELIEVE something that happens to be true, then you can be sure you GOT that belief serving someone else's agenda.

Scott Duncan

So, as I've always said; Christians are violent cowards. Christianity teaches you HOW to be a violent coward.

Notice Christians preach "peace" but ALWAYS resort to violence when their delusions are called out.

Scott Duncan

So start there:

What is more reasonable to accept?

1: There's I big invisible sky-daddy who loves you and will torture you for eternity if you don't love him back.

or

2: Christians are adults with an imaginary friend, and we've fed their delusion, out of "respect".

Rick Hiltz

here is a quote from the leader of the Roman gang of buggery Quote from Pope Leo the 10th " Our fable of the Christ has generated us enormous profits" ........................now just what does one suppose that means