lol

I know you aren't trying to be funny...but made me smile :)

Proverbs 25:2 >> It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Investigation can be the detriment to any written "some fuckin guys" writing, no? Delight, you investigate many blatherings flying about on the interweb. Much the same.

Proverbs 25:2 >> It is the glory of God(previously determined as banks) to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings(men and women whom the credit comes from) is to search out a matter. Think about it!

But Beverly Berta Braakschmack, that guys delusion IS the issue. Did you see how he reacted when asked a question? How can he learn the truth if he is programmed to lie and defend his beliefs?

I only saw him as wanting to learn, possibly something he missed. He did not want to make his belief(s) a part of anything and I found him to be respectful and not argumentative around it.

True Beverly Berta Braakschmack

^^^ agreed...but he could not get passed the simple premise that he was lied to. How can he learn with this programming?

How can you decide when you've only been taught one direction?

None of us, before recently, realized any other thing than "trudging on", no?

Put up with this crap, realise the only reason you are on this planet is to work to pay for your life... and the bills get higher and higher, no?

who is god? YOU are. your his representative on earth. you are created in his immage. in the heirarchy of authority there is god the missing capstone man gods representative here on earth government who recived from god limited authority to do godly works here on earth government agents who carry out the good works.

God's representative? What are we representing exactly? And if this is the case, which I highly doubt, actually, don't believe at all...then we are doing a lousy job and if I were God, I would fire our asses!

You do understand you will get extraordinarily shit on for that Kenneth? Correct?

we are representing the potential for godlike action. but poorley done i agree.

my belief is immune to extrodinary shit. if you agree then great if not then its just annother belief like mine. no more no less. i am good enough to accept others beliefs on equil footing to my own. i have nothing to prove or force its just imo.

Dude, just stop any "belief" and start investigating

So, if "god" has been determined as a "bank" then Kenneth, apparently YOU are a bank! :D So what do you do now?

...nothing :(

Kenneth, I welcome you here. No FREEDUMB shit is allowed. This is an advanced group...

I don't believe we were put here for any reason or as a representative of any higher being...we created God when the stars were falling from the sky, or when the weather wouldn't cooperate and there were droughts or too much rain...we made sacrifices to appease the Gods...maybe that volcano wouldn't erupt if we cut the heart out of one more virgin, or threw one in the caldera...is that that same God we are trying to "represent"? I BELIEVE we are here thanks to evolution....why we need to find purpose in our lives in the name of some pyramid scheme is beyond me. Why is it that we can't be grateful and appreciative of the life and the earth we have inherited from our ancestors? Why not make the best of the world and life we have been born into...try to improve it if we can and die knowing that we brought no intentional harm to anything while we were here. I guess reality just isn't good enough, so we need to have a spin...to make life worth living. Well I believe in two things...a beginning and an end. I will try to make the best of the stuff between; and I, personally, don't need a God to point me in the "right" direction.

You mean like "god" is like a fiction cause "we" created "him", correct? Well lookey here... :D Delight, who do you think created what is known to us as "money"?

Oh I know Beverly, we created the money when barter and trade weren't good enough...we need commerce...so we have put a number on the the side of a pig to give us a set price...we make it up as we go along...I will never argue with you there...and money based on gold???...yet when the shit hits the fan the gold and barter/trade will be worth something still...the money will be worth what we will continue to BELIEVE it is worth until people wake up and see that it isn't really worth the paper (plastic) it is written on. But the bottom line is that we don't factor in the externalities...so it will always be a economically fictitious world in which we live. But as long as we have religion...we will have war...we will have a growing economy based on our imaginary resources...in our imaginary world that we have created. Makes me shake my head and say WTF PAF.

Romans 9:21 >> Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Forest for the trees:-)

<<The BIBLE is a book of commerce, from what I now understand. It is put forth to most as a reflection of what it really is. >> Is this you, Beverly, or quoting someone else? :/ I take it as an offence now when anyone within this group tries to even imply the "bible" has anything to teach at all, and/or has any "truth" concerning reality. There is no answers in a made-up book, written by appointment by an evil pseudo-culture centuries ago, with the purpose of ENSLAVING US. I am confused by this post. I am not clear when is Beverly Berta Braakschmack saying something, or quoting someone at times. Beverly, I ask you: do you feel with the authority/author to interpret anything from that fantasy book you happened to NOT write? So, we should help "lost" religious people by telling them that they are looking at the "bible" the "wrong way," for they should see it as a "commerce handbook" instead? We should recommend others to read the "bible," and look for commercial "clues"? Do you believe there is ANY "truth" in the "bible" at all? I think the best thing to say to anyone that believes in ANYTHING the bible says is: the truth! That it is 100% bullshit from start to finish, and must throw it away, or burn it. Then, one must condemn the "bible", and any other magical books. And fuck this! <<Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.>>

It's Social Engineering. Nothing else. ...and it's COPYRIGHTED! :D

Moses sells "Law", and Jesus sells "Insurance".

That's ALL those two worthless tomes are for. NOTHING else.

James 3:5 >> Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

*Irrelevant babbling deleted. * The ONLY BIBLE YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO, IS THE ONE THAT TOUCHES COMMERCE. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S/CULTURE'S DELUSIONS. NEITHER DO YOU IF YOU WANT TO LEARN ANYTHING HERE.

Yes Blake Gardner, we know you are a "bible lover". You do not need to leave "clues" about it. Christians love to do that shit, to feel "deep", and with "special knowledge". He is really trying to send a "secret message."

An heavy thread is forming, I see :P

Let me take out this fucking bible, and call Hydro-Quebec, I'll tell them !! :P

Hey, Hydro, I am the KING, and GOD is fucking Bank of Canada, so leave me alone FFS !!! :/

If you need an INSURANCE, call Jesus :P

If you don't beleive me, call Moses...:D

What is the INTENT and PURPOSE of Blake quoting the bible? Why did he posted that bible verse? He is a coward, as all Christians. He is afraid to directly say what he thinks, and uses stupid bible verses to cover the fact that he is in fact a coward. This is what Blake Gardner FULLY intended to communicate: that we should tame our tongues, because tongues are evil, and poisonous! Because Yahweh get's pissed! <<James 3 Taming the Tongue 3 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check. 3 When we put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. 4 Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. 5 Likewise, the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. 6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one�s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. 7 All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and sea creatures are being tamed and have been tamed by mankind, 8 but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. 9 With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings, who have been made in God�s likeness. 10 Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be. 11 Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? 12 My brothers and sisters, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.>> I call you out on this one, Blake. What is the INTENT, and PURPOSE of posting that bible verse?

believe as we believe or get the fuch out eh? no room for your belief in this group. we are of a closed hive mind. believe like us or we will attack you. got any david koresh dna in you? maby you can stop by on your way to mount carmal and we can trade insults in person.

This group is more in line with: Stop believing LIES, and investigate for what is TRUE.....just saying...

No, you see, we DON'T believe. If you've done any reading through this group, you must have seen the often-repeated "Scottism" stating that "ALL BELIEF IS EVIL". And this applies to more than just religion. If you "Believe" something, it means you have accepted it as being true, with no evidence to back the claim up. It means you've swallowed this line, whichever line it is, on faith and you have stopped thinking about it. No further investigation occurs.

And I know it can HURTS..... :D

My skull is full of cracks :D

Being a Theist, you can't see how insidious this type of behaviour is. Hell, we just covered this LAST night. I'm feeling lazy, so I shall copy-pasta the rest of my argument. :p "Ceit Butler Your acceptance of the concept of a "god" is what leaves you open to victimization by the government. If you do not remove that first, you will ALWAYS be tripped up by faith in something. Belief in one lie means you can be talked into swallowing pretty much any other lie."

"Ceit Butler You're basing your entire life around something which not only has NO evidence to corroborate it, but a MOUNTAIN of evidence that disproves it. See how that's a problem? Accepting someone's word that something is true without any proof to back it up. Gee, kind of sounds like our current legal system, doesn't it?"

"Ceit Butler Even bigger tip to newbies: Ditch the "god delusion" upon entering, or you're never going to have even a snowball's chance in "Hell" of escaping the government's control. You've already submitted, fully, to an invisible "authority" who presents you with ZERO evidence of any right to rule you. You accept this all as being true, based on words written by men. Is it really that hard to see the parallels there? We've been submitting to the government, a, for all intents and purposes, "invisible authority", whose only evidence of their "right to rule us" is based on words...written by men... Do I really need to make that any clearer?"

"Ceit Butler "The Bible is true because the Bible says so!" "You must follow this law because this law says so!" Any fucking questions?! "

:D

HAHAHA!!! :D

Well seriously, how many times can you be expected to explain this shit?! :D

The sad part is, you can easily debate ANY theist with pre-recorded, canned comments because their ridiculous "debate points" are ALWAYS the same. :p

Beginning to spot the pattern now, are you? :D

poor anti theist world not conforming to you? tell me WHAT i owe you?

What ? :/

Kenneth Paul, YOU came here. You requested to join this group. Scott added you by your own submission. Was it a "Calling" from "god" that made you join this group? Did not "god" warned you in advance, via "prayers," not to join this group if you were an intolerant adult with imaginary friends? This group is anti-DELUSIONS in general, not just YOUR delusions, Kenneth. If this offends your imaginary sky-daddy, please leave now. Neither us, nor you have anything to offer here, then.

Thx for being dense guy your retardation is so very entertaining

Please CONVERT me, please, please, please :D

Helloosss !!! :/

you, afaid to use your real name otherwise known as maximus minimus are an idot. to me god is not some 3party diety or reference point in the universe. to me god is all encompassing everywhere all the time within.me and without me and everywhere i am not goddian of the universe please save me from self referencing assumtionists with preconcieved notions of who i am and what i believe. from my point of reference you are not even in the same solar system. you idiot enjoy creating imaginary enemys of your own creation. btw. your following the script to the letter. how did i know?

@maxiboy - an inordinate reaction...)

:-o

courts take no judicial notice of any thing in the bible yet they swear you in on it as if it means some thing they even tell you in the 1960 bill of rights that "Canada was founded on the supremacy of God and the rule of law" now just analyze that statement they recognize God as being a supreme being .........but he couldn`t possibly create supreme laws to govern his creation so man had to show him the way

Fuck, I don't get what this Kenneth Paul guy is saying :(

I can confirm Mackximus Minimus is, indeed, in the same solar system as me, I know I was there, when I have met with him.....or was that my imagination ? :/ Fuck, I am lost now :(

And WHY have you blocked me, Blake Gardner ?

What the fuck is going on in here ? ..... ?

A free-dumbers coward extravaganza. Get the fuck out of this group, you fucking free-dumbers! Why do you come here? Because your stupid "gods" don't have any answers, buy Scott Duncan does.

"goddian of the universe please save me from self referencing assumtionists with preconcieved notions of who i am and what i believe." It doesn't take "preconceived notions" to see that you are an illiterate fuckwit who accepts things on faith. And seriously, what is it with you theists and your fear of women? Why are my comments the only ones that are consistently ignored?

Because they are COWARDS! Like Blake Gardner. Thanks for the acquiescence, by the way. And "god" told me that your shitty trash metal band sucks "satan's" ass! :D

Well, Kenneth Paul? Let's hear your rebuttal to my oh-so-very valid points. -Your acceptance of the concept of a "god" is what leaves you open to victimization by the government. If you do not remove that first, you will ALWAYS be tripped up by faith in something. Belief in one lie means you can be talked into swallowing pretty much any other lie. -You're basing your entire life around something which not only has NO evidence to corroborate it, but a MOUNTAIN of evidence that disproves it. See how that's a problem? Accepting someone's word that something is true without any proof to back it up. Gee, kind of sounds like our current legal system, doesn't it? -Even bigger tip to newbies: Ditch the "god delusion" upon entering, or you're never going to have even a snowball's chance in "Hell" of escaping the government's control. You've already submitted, fully, to an invisible "authority" who presents you with ZERO evidence of any right to rule you. You accept this all as being true, based on words written by men. - Is it really that hard to see the parallels there? We've been submitting to the government �a, for all intents and purposes, "invisible authority"� whose only evidence of their "right to rule us" is based on words...written by men... Do I really need to make that any clearer? -"The Bible is true because the Bible says so!" -"You must follow this law because this law says so!" Any fucking questions?!

no thanks i a man; enjoy stepping on your red itchy volumous bulging mass of inflaimed skin hanging just inside the cheek of your ass. we. are just getting started. just changed to golf shoes. the logging boots are too heavy.

Oh, this is going to be... biblical? :D

Does he wanna fight ? :/

<<we. are just getting started.>> Who is WE? :/

Ah, so we have left logical debate behind in favour of ad hominem attacks. How very "christ-like" of you. :p

Whatever your concept of "God" is, it is based entirely on faith. A ludicrous notion, requiring ZERO evidence to back it up, and allowing one to turn a blind eye to all evidence that negates aforementioned notion.

Humm....I feel like banning these idiots :D

They're sometimes fun to swat around a little first. :D

swatting is done, no ? :D

You should ban them, Ceit ... :P

Already done. :D Kenneth Paul Has LEFT THE BUILDING!

Give me the ban button. I promise a massacre that would leave Herod in shames. Any survivors would be locked in a room, and tied to a chair to listen to Blake's shitty trash metal band for eternity. That's hell! :D

:D

Blake blocked me a few weeks back, I have NO IDEA why !! :/

Because he is, as ALL Christians are, a COWARD, Pete Daoust! He is a two-faced coward bible freak, and he knows it. And "god" told me his shitty trash metal band sucks "lucifer's" ass. :D

We have another new member... I think perhaps Kenneth left the door open on his way out. :p

ArchAngel Gabriel ? :D

Yep

I really think we should make a REFERENDUM on the group status... :P

I love REFERENDUM !!! :D

Yes, stopping by to acquire some Knowledge of this Thing called Law...looking to experience y'all's wisdom on Legallese...

You're going to find that the whole "Belief" thing is your biggest stumbling block.

It's all fiction. How you choose to interpret the respective fiction you're dealing with at the moment is YOUR choice or decision. All bibles, courts, laws, authority, money, governments; heck even the English and most other languages. All fiction. No? Who gives a flying fuck anyway? This post seems to have opened some kind of can O worms [that one was for you Adam], why is that so? Did it offend a belief/worldview you have? Did it offend your superiority complex? What's your boggle? Better yet, what's your agenda? Maybe some people [including myself] should start looking at themselves rather than waste energy bashing others who might not favor the same "fictions" they do; that might be more productive. What makes your "fiction" better than the one of someone else? Just an observation...[and more can O worms...] ;)

No Beliefs just Facts whether observed or not...

It's not a matter of bashing others, look deeper than that. Theists base their entire lives around belief in some supreme authority, with no "evidence" other than a piece of paper that tells them that they have to. This mirrors our government/legal system. If you can be fooled by one, you can be fooled by the other. Attempting to escape from one is futile, that flaw in your thought process will always allow you to be ensnared again by the next piece of paper that sounds good.

A man only begins to be a man when he ceases to whine and revile, and commences to search for the hidden justice which regulates his life. And he adapts his mind to that regulating factor, he ceases to accuse others as the cause of his condition, and builds himself up in strong and noble thoughts; ceases to kick against circumstances, but begins to use them as aids to his more rapid progress, and as a means of the hidden powers and possibilities within himself. J/A

I agree Ceit, but it is my experience that SOME people who may have been sucked into religion have questions as to how things REALLY work in the world and, personally, I don't mind exposing them to the fiction they're been fooled into. Why not just share the knowledge and let the pieces fall where they do?

Because the ability to accept fraud as truth reveals a crippling flaw in the thought process.

Like pieces of a broken man crying in the shower for having wasted so many years of his life

Pete Daoust, Please "FIX UP" Mister Gardener. He and "Jesus" need to get a room.

Which one ? :D .....invasion happened :D

I fixed Blake... :D

But fuck, it's filled with gardener here :D

Mister Atkins. I notice your "pretend, if you want information" advice. Are you a stealth theist?

I'm with Pete on this one..

Negative .... but because my father is a born again douche I do my best not to be belligerent

I'm even annoying myself at this point. Gonna go do something constructive.

Born again ?.....like going back into the vagina and get back out ? :D

Born "AGAIN", seriously, ants dosen't even do that kind of shit :D

Point him here. :D http://youtu.be/j1s5IVdFVQ0

It's not my belief ...... I hate what my father has become he used to be a man ..... now he is a yes man for this creepy Fuck of a pastor who I just wanna punch.... you can smell molestation on him

Why don't you punch the fucker ? :/

Ridicule and contempt works best. :D

PRO-TIP: Drop "Christian" from your vocabulary. Use "Adult with an imaginary friend". Of ALL the labels I use, THIS on drives the point home.

Let me think.... to date I've been labeled crazy conspiracy theorist, blasphemer, all kinds of Crap and I take pride in the fact they have no means of arguing there bullshit any longer ..... we only but heads when my dad tries to give parenting advice.....

Which can be immediately nullified with "I'm not taking advice from an ADULT with an IMAGINARY FRIEND". :D

That's much more concise than my attempts I cannot wait to put it into Acton

*action :P

Ok pile on boys

Ohio ??

Omg I just took the bait didn't I....

Ontario.

:D

It's not worth the drive.

The Tender for Geography :P

Tom lived in Acton for a while.

Just finished reading Kenneth Paul's bullshit. I'm sure there are a bunch of "quiet" christians who think we're really bad for not "accepting his beliefs" and being "tolerant" of them. Someone explain why I must tolerate delusion. Why do you delusional fuckwits think your delusion has the same standing as my knowledge? ALL BELIEF IS EVIL. ALL OF IT. If you BELIEVE something that happens to be true, then you can be sure you GOT that belief serving someone else's agenda.

NOBODY wants to pose a position? Nobody thinks I should "respect the beliefs of others"?

Come on you cowards! Somebody tell me why I must "respect the beliefs of others"! :D

Anybody?

So, as I've always said; Christians are violent cowards. Christianity teaches you HOW to be a violent coward. Notice Christians preach "peace" but ALWAYS resort to violence when their delusions are called out.

NOBODY wants to say why I must "respect the beliefs of others"? NOBODY?

I think it's a 2 way street Scott. .... if I have to respect a theists beliefs then they should extend the same courtesy... especially if they are preaching

<<I have to respect a theists beliefs then they should extend the same courtesy>> Really? Ho! What? :/

Otherwise it's open season

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkSCxeXL7oA.

Born again ...hey reminds me of this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzQKtADx4tY

No. You don't even go THAT far. "respecting" delusion means you are ignoring REALITY just for one deluded fuckwit. WHY? Why would you do this?

Your correct Scott. .... however I'm still not knowledgeable enough to take on these challenges

I'm serious here. Why does an adult with an imaginary friend deserve any "respect"? Why would you IGNORE REALITY for the delusions of others?

Oops fucking phone You are correct

So start there: What is more reasonable to accept? 1: There's I big invisible sky-daddy who loves you and will torture you for eternity if you don't love him back. or 2: Christians are adults with an imaginary friend, and we've fed their delusion, out of "respect".

Fraudulent claims are not worthy of respect.

Ok.... most Christians hate me..... but my dad is this big weeping mess . .. he has 3 modes anger preaching and crying .... usually a cycle.... so I try to avoid watching the crying

Wait until he cries... then kick him in the face. Delusional fucks who impose their delusions on children deserve no less.

I've had the very same discussion about preaching his theist bullshit to my kids many times

It's weird as I'm trying to have a relationship with my dad..... but it's working out

Oh man I think I'll start a thread so Scott can really give me a reaming

here is a quote from the leader of the Roman gang of buggery Quote from Pope Leo the 10th " Our fable of the Christ has generated us enormous profits" ........................now just what does one suppose that means

Just tell your children that their grandfather has a disease. It's primary symptom is that he has an imaginary friend. Just treat him like you would any relative who's mentally ill.

We do....

My daughter is a few years away from being able to understand..... maybe I say grandpa Laurie is sick in the head ...... his brain works slow

Holy Mary murder a God.