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No big deal :P

Pete, thank you very very much.

Why ? :/

That is LEGAL ?, Scott ?

You can use the person you happen to have, to invoice....I'll try to post an INVOICE made by the SOLE authorized Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST, it will take a few minutes... :)

:)

Would you notice them of the lien after the default or just lien and sent them a copy or no copy even?

Just lien and send them a copy ??!!....that would be the actual NOTICE

I have a nice Bill I have sent to a debt collection company after I nicely sent them 3 letters or Notices asking to provide information which of course they did not do. That was sent in September and they still have not paid. I think I sent 2 Bills. I'll have to get back to them on why they are so late in paying.

ok thanks

That's the best I can do (image quality)

Oh, it went out not too bad !! :D

If they do not contest, or rebut, or challenge your CLAIM.......you have to invoice.... :)

And IT'S NOT MY FUCKING FAULT !!! :D HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Any question ?, I have 10 minutes 8|

"If they do not contest, or rebut, or challenge your CLAIM.......you have to invoice....:) Done, zero challenge in the persons mail box (with grace for the holiday), Invoice too all 4 parties next up. As Scott said invite them all

Et voila !! :)

I so LOVE that accounting shit :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJcCf4wqe2k

Each Party (City Clerk, Granite Claims, METZGER and VEGA) get an invoice under separate registered mail #'s. Does the invoice # match the registered mail #? or do I start a series #

I use the date, as Today would be 230514 If I make another one, it would be: 230514-2, and 230514-3, and so on.....

Tomorrow it would be: 240514..... :D

When you have one that looks like: 230514-26, you know it's a PROFITABLE day :D

you just answered my next question :)

I know :P

26 claims in 1 day :)

26 INVOICES, not CLAIMS :P

yes, Invoices (y)

You can end up with 33 invoices for one claim :D

Nothing prevents you to send them an invoice that says, OH, I FORGOT, you fucked my pants on that day, so here is an invoice for $80.00 for my pants :P

Description Price Units Amount CRIMINAL ASSAULT $5000.00 ea 2 $20000.00 ARBITRARY ARREST $5000.00 ea 1 $5000.00 DETENTION/INTERROGATION $1000.00 ea 2 $2000.00 (per hour for each officer) FORCIBLE CONFINEMENT $10000.00 per 1 $10000.00

5000 x 2 = 10,000, just saying :/

then the price just went up, inflation you know.

Ha, ok :/

whats your value for criminal assault? Millions I'm sure :) best admin and all

At least $50,000.00 I think it's fair !

I am not really the best admin, you guys just sucks, that's all :D

Just think about what could be charge to the person you happen to have in your pocket, if you would have used it to do the same as they have done to you ;)

my hamster brain is slowly coming out of freetard confusion.

Yeah, like most of you guys :D

It gets really costly when you have good reasons to BELIEVE that they have wage war on you, and/or the person you happen to have. This kind of shit can be very expensive :D

had I spit on them and waived my arms around like a semi-evolved chimp (as claimed) they would hold me for at least 25000.00 bond if not more. Assault Police is serious business.

They spitted on you ? :-o

Spitting on me 1ea. $25,000.00

Violation of the INTEGRITY of the person I have. $25,000.00 Violation of the LIBERTY of the person I have. $25,000.00 Violation of the LIFE of the person I have. $25,000.00 Violation of the SURETY of the person I have. $25,000.00 :P

You can't fuck around with the INTEGRITY of a PERSON, if the ADMINISTRATOR of that person is a little bit sharp, you'll end up in big problems :/

Metzger claims I spit in her face, Vega claims I was waving keys around in my hands

I claim bullshit, had I done either I would have been crushed.

Every Human Being has the right to the LIBERTY of his person, the SURETY of his person, the INTEGRITY of his person, and the LIFE of his person.....you can't fuck around with this shit, unless you are a slave... :(

Pete. re FINAL Notice. Being the third Notice would it be beneficial to make it the THIRD and FINAL Notice?

No.

You send all this registered mail, so they know it's the third, or second, or whatever :/

Ok, thanks. We just need to clarify.

Love this

What do you LOVE in this ? :/

The truth

And you are 100% sure it's true ?

Maybe I am just a "Delusional Preacher" ? :D Like this fraudster :P May 16, 2011 Delusional preacher Harold Camping says May 21st to be the Rapture and Judgment Day � Caller asks Camping: �On May 22nd, do they [contributors to Family Radio who believed this hoax] get a refund?�

If you and Scott say it's true then it is

Hey Pete, there is a province # for Ontario do you know it?

What ? :-\

the inscription number you use, you once said the first # is the province #

You'll find this in the registration number of the birth certificate...

ok

but why would you need this ? ....I am curious :-D

for the invoice

Quebec is 04

WHY ?

What does it have to do with the invoice ?

So, in looking at this "claim" shit... Basically when a corporation offers you a BILL, they are looking to borrow your credit. As any value for "money" comes from the credit/time of the people, this company must need a loan, correct?

comes from the credit/time of the people: No, from Men and Women :P

Right.

I see it as : The corporation offers a DEBT, and they WISH you will BUY that debt with MONEY OF ACCOUNT.

They are offering DEBTS that was ALREADY BOUGHT by them.....

CRA per instance, they are sending this debt to a person, and are COUNTING on the SOLE authorized Administrator of that PERSON, to be completely ignorant and to BUY back that public debt. It is the same as if PIERRE DAOUST the person, would BUY BACK debts sent to SFC INC, and would PAY with MONEY OF ACCOUNT sitting in a PIERRE DAOUST'S bank account somewhere.... If ever PIERRE DAOUST is doing this, that would be a LOAN, and/or INVESTMENT made in SFC INC.

Who has to file a T5008 information return? every person who makes a payment to, or acts as a nominee or agent for, an individual resident in Canada for the disposition or redemption of a debt obligation in bearer form; and

nominee n. 1) a person or entity who is requested or named to act for another, such as an agent or trustee. 2) a potential successor to another's rights under a contract. Example: In a real estate purchase agreement, Bob Buyer agrees to purchase the property, but provides that title (legal ownership) will be granted to "Bob Buyer or nominee," so that Buyer can sell his rights to another person before the deal closes, or because Buyer is really acting for someone else. 2) the executor proposed by a person in a will is a nominee until officially appointed by the judge after the testator (will writer) has died, and the will is submitted for probate (administration of the estate). 3) a person chosen by convention, petition or primary election to be a candidate for public office. (See: executor, agent)

Entity A real being; existence. An organization or being that possesses separate existence for tax purposes. Examples would be corporations, partnerships, estates, and trusts. The accounting entity for which accounting statements are prepared may not be the same as the entity defined by law.

So a SOLE authorized Administrator is an ENTITY, :)

I am the "real being" Sole authorized Administrator acting as an ENTITY for PIERRE DAOUST 1196604XXXXXX :D

I understand that applying for a SIN number authorizes "many others" the use of that number (attached to BC Bond).

Or should I say: disposition (dis-pa-zish-an), n. (14c) 1. The act of transferring something to another's care or possession, esp. by deed or will; the relinquishing ofproperty <a testamentary disposition of all the assets>.

I applied for that SIN number, I was 16 :/ an ILLEGAL age for entering into contract :(

Should I NOTICE CANADA about it ? :/

Dear Canada HUMAN resources, Just to pin point that when I have filled this APPLICATION, I was 16, and I have all the good reasons to "BELIEVE" it was an ILLEGAL age to enter in a LEGAL contract. Thanks Sole Authorized Administrator for 26X-XXX-XXX :D

If ever you would like to make a NEW contract, which would be a LEGAL one, because NOW, I am over 18, please send ALL terms and conditions regarding this CONTRACT, I will read them all, and then I will send you MY thoughts about it :D

You see, if you look at a remittance, it resembles a cheque. It seems to me that it is payable to your PERSON, not the other way around. Debt Obligation in Bearer Form: Debt obligation � A fixed obligation to pay money or some other valuable consideration. Bearer form � An instrument is in bearer form if its terms say that it is payable to the bearer, or to cash, or if it does not indicate a payee.

Scott, am I waaay off here?

When I am finished ADMINISTRATING a Bill of Exchange, it's indeed, a CHECK...... The DRAWER, the one that made the check is PIERRE DAOUST The Surety, Bank, Drawee, is Bank of Canada (That is WHY I have this Bank of Canada rubber stamp, to make sure the bank is well identified on the face of the instrument.) And the Payee, beneficiary, the one that has the OBLIGATION to present this check to the bank, is HYDRO-QUEBEC, CRA, QRA, City of Montreal....or who ever started this Bill of Exchange, and sent it to PIERRE DAOUST......

The DRAWER and the BENEFICIARY can be the same PERSON though :D HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Lets say PIERRE DAOUST goes to the grocery store to buy some food, and decides to PAY with MONEY OF ACCOUNT (credit card) It is OBVIOUSLY the SOLE authorized Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST that will have to do this, so, as a good administrator, I will keep the receipts for this. But �legally�, who bought these consumable products ? PIERRE DAOUST did, and PIERRE DAOUST has a SURETY at a bank, which happen to be Bank of Canada�. So me, as a good administrator, what prevents me to DRAW a check to PIERRE DAOUST (beneficiary), from PIERRE DAOUST�s account at Bank of Canada, which account, happens to have an UNLIMITED credit limit ? This seems to be pure ACCOUNTING :D :D

Not my fault !! :(

And that's only MONEY OF ACCOUNT, so who should gives a fuck ?

I have good reasons to BELIEVE that some folks are eating BIG STEAKS, as we speak, bought with MONEY OF ACCOUNT directly took from PIERRE DAOUST's account in Bank of Canada :(

They even have "CHAUFFEURS" :(

Hellosss !!! :/

There is 7 sureties available in my HOUSE :-o

You must also use the T5008 information return to report dispositions or redemptions of debt obligations in bearer form by individuals resident in Canada. Debt obligations in bearer form include commercial paper and banker�s acceptances. Banker�s acceptance � A draft payable at maturity drawn by a creditor against a debtor. Banker�s acceptances are short-term credit instruments that are commonly sold at a discount. Banker�s acceptances and commercial paper are examples of debt obligations in bearer form that are not usually traded publicly. Debt obligations in bearer form include debt obligations payable to the �bearer� or to �cash.�

include commercial paper and banker�s acceptances. So it EXCLUDE everything else ?

I wonder if this is another way banks "make" so much money?

Here is what I am THINKING of doing.... 1). Make a grocery for PIERRE DAOUST. 2). Have PIERRE DAOUST use MONEY OF ACCOUNT to PAY for that Grocery. 3). Create a Bill of Exchange, the SAME way HYDRO-QUEBEC creates theirs....with PIERRE DAOUST as a drawer, "CASH" as a beneficiary, and Bank of Canada as the Drawee.... 4). Complete that Bill of Exchange, to turn it into a check. 5). Send that that check to Bank of Canada, with the receipt, with some CONSIDERATION (a certified copy of PIERRE DAOUST's birth certificate.) 6). INSTRUCT Bank of Canada to send payment to the order of "CASH", at PIERRE DAOUST's legal address. :D (Thinking out loud !! ) but it completely makes sense in my brain ! :D

Bank dosen't really MAKE so much money, they mostly KEEP so much money, because of IGNORANCE of the crowd :(

:D

Pete, I think that is exactly right! Well...I don't know about exactly, but I think it is how it is supposed to work, yes!

Well, it makes sense, yes ? :-\

Yes!

The ACCOUNTING transaction is the Bank Notes for the RECEIPT. Somehow (and I am not sure exactly how) I KNOW we can REDEEM that RECEIPT for CREDIT ON ACCOUNT.

Since we are the CREDITOR and a BANK, it only makes sense....

I am not the bank, I am the "money" inside that Bank :-D

And the person I happen to have, owns the bank :-P

Not my fault :-(

I just got an idea. If my corporation gets a CONTRACT for say a $30,000 installation, upon execution, it has the RIGHT to lien the property based on the CONTRACT (I think its called a MECHANICS LIEN...). So, wouldn't we be able to lien BEFORE generating an INVOICE to protect our interests in an established CONTRACT? Does this make sense?

What you've done Neil Friesen, only the GOVERNMENT can do it, STEAL from others is government's business, so now, the GOVERNMENT wants what's theirs, plus interest and penalties..... Make no mistake, you will PAY.... :P By today's date, and the date of your court case, you might have seen us as your LAST HOPE, and thought we might come up with a MAGICAL BULLET to get you out of this shit, unfortunately no, we have none of these "MAGICAL BULLET". The BEST you could do is tell the justice you agree to GIVE BACK what you've took from these strangers.......The nice back yard you have is, in REALITY, someone else's efforts/time..... That is ALL I have to say on this, if someone else see it different, take the lead.......but if you LIE, you are banned :P

Oh fuck, ....wrong thread :D

From a Christian Walters paper: "If you didn�t express it to be a trust from the beginning, here it was a trust because there is no money, and everything has to be a trust. When you go to the grocery store to buy groceries you think you are paying for something with Federal Reserve Notes, and that is just your purchase, you aren�t purchasing anything. You are forming a trust. The same way at the gas station when you buy gasoline for your car. You aren�t buying gas, you are forming a trust. Everything today has to be a trust. We are forming hundreds of trusts a day probably in some cases." And the RECEIPT is the evidence of the transfer of the corpus! Your TIME! :-D

hahahaa....then he says this: "Now, if they give me an offer that comes in the mail in an electric bill I�m going to treat it as a trust. It�s an offer for a debtor-creditor relationship only if you don�t know that it is a trust. I�m going to express it as being a trust by forming the four elements necessary. I am going to have intent, purpose, parties, and specific res. I�m going to turn that offer into the specific res. I�m going to return it to them as the special deposit under trusts."

Maybe I should have my self a new rubber stamp that says: In "ME" we TRUST. ? and add that sucker on every Bill of Exchange I have to COMPLETE ? :D

�valuable security� includes (e) a release, RECEIPT, discharge or other instrument evidencing payment of money; http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-1.html#h-2

�trustee� � fiduciaire � �trustee� means a person who is declared by any Act to be a trustee or is, by the law of a province, a trustee, and, without restricting the generality of the foregoing, includes a trustee on an express trust created by deed, will or instrument in writing, or by parol; I "WISH" you accept the powers of the TRUSTEE in here today, dear your honor ! :D

This all reminds me; a couple years ago, I was walking out of a grocery-store, there were some young girls asking for donations for their skating-club. Except, they weren't asking for 'money.' They were asking for people as they walked by, if they could have their RECEIPTS they just got from grocery-shopping. I stopped dead in my tracks as soon as I heard what they were asking for, gave them my receipt, and have always wondered since, what was the purpose of them asking for the 'RECEIPT' of all things... :/

Now you know.

:-D

Gold nugget alert!

*nuggets :P

Whoa

How many can actually understand what just happened? Talking about joining the dots, hellos!!

* "connecting" the dots :D

:D

I'm telling you, banks KEEP money because of ignorant folks, but even when the ignorant folk is no longer so ignorant, they really keep doing all they can to still KEEP it ! I think ME gonna need an ex parte order to get through with this... Might as well go to the grocery store now !

You need to INVOICE them ;)

They've been invoiced ! Said they would contest any claim for fees and charge the PERSON for their own fees ;) I said the invoice is not for fees, it covers only the VALUE of that INSTRUMENT you decided to keep against the law. Since then, they never replied... June 5 they will be getting a PAST DUE ACCOUNT NOTICE.

:)

Starwalker Ad Infinitum, the world has enough dreamers, just saying :P Everybody is sleeping for fuck sakes !!!

not evrryone

thanks for the add to the group. i hope i can help expand the awarness of people and my sucesses with notices and leins will inspire peeps to revoke concent and send notices/claims, breaches of trust ect....

Oh boy.

You know that in order to DREAM, you MUST be at sleep, right ? :/

daydream. amd it is man not boy :-p

If you can "expand the awarness of people," just like you can type, I guess there is very little "expansion" actually occurring. Hahaha! So you came here to HELP US. Really? This is going to be interesting... for a little bit. Haha!

Are you here to makes us DAY dreaming ? :D

OK, go, share your biggest SUCCESS with us, we are listening :)

He has had "sucesses with notices." He has actually dated, and scored with notices, very successfully? That should really "inspire peeps" around here, hahaha!

Let him share Mackximus Minimus, lets shut up and listen to Starwalker :)

I'll turn off the bullshit-o-meter then, sorry. This is all Scott Duncan's fault!

Please Starwalker, share !! :/

Peremptory Notice. Starwalker Ad Infinitum, be advise that if you do not come back here in the next 15 minutes, with your BIGGEST success story, I will have all the good reasons to BELIEVE that you are a SALESMAN, who wants to sell us bullshit. And I will ban you from this group. With all my Love. Authorized Administrator for The Tender for Law.

*tick tock*

3 minutes :/

Gone :P

Case closed! :D <<About Starwalker Whereas it is my understanding legal fictions lack a soul and cannot exert any control over those who are thus blessed and operate with respect to that knowledge as only a fool would allow soulless fictions to dictate ones actions I love the sun I am not afraid, I am not alone, I am happy Freeman on the land!! No room in my heart for violence. Blessed are the peacemakers No Social insurance number aka slave ID # Vaccine Free Sovereign free will being I understand that regulation is force, and do not permit force in my peaceful dealings with others. I understand that taxation is theft, and do not accept the theft of my property by anyone. I understand that coercion is fraud, and do not approve of fraud under any circumstances. I understand that force, theft, and fraud have no place in the market, and thus I will accept only voluntary exchanges based upon mutual self-interest. Quote: FRAUD " An intentional perversion of truth for the purpose of inducing another in reliance upon it to part with some valuable thing belonging to him or to surrender a legal right. A false representation of a matter of fact, whether by words or conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of that which should have been disclosed, which deceives and is intended to deceive another so that he shall act upon it to his legal injury. Anything calculated to deceive, whether by a single act or combination, or by the suppression of truth, or by suggestion of what is false, whether it be by direct falsehood or innuendo, by speech of silence, word of mouth, or look, or gesture. A generic term, embracing all maltofarious means which human ingenuity can devise, and which are resorted to by one Individual to get advantage over another by false suggestions or by suppression of truth, and includes all surprise, trick, cunning, dissembling, and UNFAIR way by which another is cheated. BAD FAITH " and " FRAUD " are synonymous, and also synonyms of dishonesty, infidelity, faithlessness, unfairness, ect." A Sovereign Free-man does not have to register, apply, beg, pay or be governed to exercise their God-given, claimed, natural, common-law or Constitutional rights. I am a Sovereign Free-man who operates with full responsibility(sui juris) and not a child of the government. I do not see the need to ask permission to engage in lawful and peaceful activities, especially from those who claim limited liability. This Sovereign is guided and directed by the Creator's will and its unwritten Universal Laws that are known to all beings in all jurisdictions and dimensions. The Creator's laws to protect the free-will of humanity is in full force and effect. The love for Earth, humanity and all beings protects the sovereignty of this Universe. The Light that governs this Universe by the Creator's Will is the eternal wisdom of love and freedom to understand that no one or no thing can harm any thing or any one with weapons of any type in the Name of Peace. And so it is written, read and understood by those who know that change is inevitable and long overdue in the name of Freedom for humanity by the stroke of the pen and Peace for Earth and our Universe. I am a Functional Sovereign. Acting peacefully within community standards, does not breach the peace. [To breach the peace one must, without others� permission, greatly threaten the safety of others, impede on the rights of others, or act in a disturbing, riotous manner in the presence of others.] I intend to exercise my right to live free without malice aforethought, ill will, vexation or frivolity, without corporate dictate, acting in the full capacity as the Creditor for the Copyright Trademark CAPITALIZED ARTIFICAL NAME �D A FUGGE in any style of cause. Therefore be it now known to any and all concerned and affected parties, that I, Known as douglas, a Sovereign Free-man do hereby state clearly specifically and unequivocally my intent: To peacefully and lawfully exist free of all statutory obligations restrictions and maintain all rights at law to trade, exchange or barter. To travel peacefully and lawfully within the geographical area commonly referred as Earth by whatever means I deem necessary. To be a Steward of the land and waters of the geographic area of Canada and the Commonwealth including the land, which I claim. To Live in peace, honor all my relations, protecting our earth for the future generations, with love in action and the most Devine intentions. Notices served to Corporations, or persons acting as principals or agents for said Corporations, retain legal validity, effectiveness, and authority of any established Claims and/or Understandings and/or Intents, without prejudice, if positions or persons holding certain positions of the said Corporations are replaced, succeeded or changed in any way Corporations are legal fictions and require contracts in order to claim authority or control over other parties. Legal fictions lack both a soul and sentience and cannot exert any control over those who are thus blessed and operate with respect to that knowledge Trespass or any transgression(s) against me, my family or anyone under my care that is or are perpetrated by any members of Fraternal organizations, any members of a Masonic society or group and/or having sworn one or more secret oaths to any Masonic society or group, any Society and/or organization, Firms, Corporations, Barristers, Solicitors, peace officers, government principals, agents or (just-us) justice system participants, criminal violations are set at a $6M debt to each perpetrator per infringement. NOTICE IS TO AGENT AS NOTICE IS TO PRINCIPAL. NOTICE IS TO PRINCIPAL AS NOTICE IS TO AGENT �All rights reserved, Copyright Trademark name infringement fee is $6M (Six Million) hard lawful currency per Trespass against the Corporate BUSINESS NAME. Documents assessed for taxation, arbitration without my written consent will be deemed as a trespass against my family Name and I reserve the right to issue the debt, lien the claim and foreclose without further Notice by the Named author �Douglas-Allen : Fugge�, Agent, Creditor, Secure Party, Natural Man, author of the Copyright Trademark Name Claim for the Copyright Trademark autograph for the� DOUGLAS A. FUGGE� in any style of cause.The Liability for infringement and Judgment(s) and/or Order(s) made against my CAPITALIZED BUSINESS NAME is $6M (Six Million) per infringement. The Remedy is provided with a contract to claim the debt, process a lien and proceed with a foreclosure on tangible and not tangible assets without further Notice. Note - Natural: free, unaffected, N. Baily, Universal Etymological English Dictionary, 1713, Natural: 4.c. Not produced or changed artificially, not conditioned, 5. Characterized by spontaneity and freedom from artificiality, affectation or inhibitions. 9. Established by moral certainty or conviction: natural rights, 10.a Related by blood, American Heritage Dictionary, 1994, Third Edition. Man releases Douglas from the Joinder, �person� created by the Canadian Justice System and Black Law�s 4th Edition to define �individual� to include artificial persons, 1968 and �person� defined by the Excise Tax Act Chapter E-15, Part IX Goods and Services Tax as; �a corporation or other organization of any kind�. Man: The male of the Human Race, N. Baily, Universal Etymological English Dictionary, 1713>>

*sigh*

:D Peremptory Notice. :D

Harpooned a Free-Dumber, huh? :D

Nice catch :D

This "peremptory" word has been sent registered mail to a PERSON I happen to administrate. so I stole it :-P

YOU DID NOT STEAL! You copied. http://youtu.be/IeTybKL1pM4

So there :P

I took it off the document, with a pair of scisors......literally, and send it back with a "peremptory" notice, saying we do not accept peremptory DEMANDS... :-\

I also sent a "peremptory demand", demamding a signed guarantee that says SFC Inc won't violate a PERSON's right to private life before we do business... :-D

I have an OATH on that shit...fuck... :-(

Not my fault if there's a Quebec Charter.....they should scrap that thing...... :-D

Has anyone ever sent the remittance voucher from Cra with the stamp Pete talks about and successfully stopped them from harassing further?

I did it BEFORE they started HARASSMENT, I am TAKING CARE of stuff, before it gets into "Harassing mode". It's been 7 months now, never heard of this since.... I also administrated 2 from QRA.....same thing...

How did they harass and what did you do to silence them

They NEVER harassed, can you read ? :/

Forgive me. Read it wrong. Thanks

*SIGH* :(

I will post all questions here from here on

great thread, thanks Pete

John Greco looky here and read everything, twice.

Starwalker Ad Infinitum didn't produce any "successes"! ...go figure! SURELY there must be SOME! http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land#Freeman_successes Hmmmm... nope. Lots of FAILURES though! :D

I like the tumbleweeds :D

It was better than a blank space :D

I just read that whole article. There are some things in there we KNOW to be true: "Birth certificates There are three main beliefs about birth certificates in freeman mythology: The government uses them to create your strawman and legal person to which all your legal responsibilities, debts and liabilities belong.[31][24] As a form of registration, they transfer ownership of an individual to the state. This is what allows the state to seize your children if you don't play by their rules.[31] They are financial instruments or birth-tracking bonds (a.k.a. live birth bonds) that are sold by the government and then traded on the sea of international commerce, using you as security (an idea taken from the redemption movement)." "Freemen claim the government secures the value of its fiat currency using its own citizens' birth certificate "bonds.""

Pete Daoust will happily explain about your "PERSON". It's not his fault. :D "The government uses them to create your strawman and legal person to which all your legal responsibilities, debts and liabilities belong." No. They simply made a SURETY BOND which you are the HOLDER of... ...and FUCKING "STRAWMAN"! Seriously! Strawman=FREE-DUMB SHIT! "As a form of registration, they transfer ownership of an individual to the state. This is what allows the state to seize your children if you don't play by their rules." NO. Only the CHILD is. Once adulthood is attained, you USE the PERSON. I recommend ADMINISTRATION... again,... ask Pete. "They are financial instruments or birth-tracking bonds (a.k.a. live birth bonds) that are sold by the government and then traded on the sea of international commerce, using you as security (an idea taken from the redemption movement)." WHAT? WTF is a "live birth bond"? Show me the LEGAL RULE supporting that claim! If it's a BOND, there MUST be LAW supporting it. LEGAL=ACCOUNTING AND SURETY. Those who say otherwise ARE LYING TO YOU and MEAN YOU HARM.

So, basically NONE of that is true.

Hellosss !!!.....fuck, I have a forklift to repair :/

HOLDING of HAVING.....as the SOLE authorize administrator for the PERSON, Am I "Holding" or "Having" this surety bond I know you choose your word with extreme caution Scott, I am NOT trying to change the word you used.....I am just trying to know if I, as the administrator, can decide to HAVE that surety bond instead of HOLDING it :) Maybe I am wrong here, but it seems EVERYONE can "Have", and only PERSONS can HOLD..... I am just picky with this HOLDING stuff versus HAVING stuff...... As the ADMINISTRATOR, would it be more advantageous to HAVE that surety bond ? ....instead of HOLDING it ? TO HAVE. These words are used in deeds for the conveyance of land, in that clause which usually declared for what estate the land is granted. The same as Habendum. (q.v.) Vide Habendum; Tenendum. TO HOLD. These words are now used in a deed to express by what tenure the grantee is to have the land. The clause which commences with these words is called the tenendum. Vide Habendum; Tenendum. 2. To hold, also means to decide, to adjudge, to decree; as, the court in that case held that the husband was not liable for the contract of the wife, made without his express or implied authority. 3. It also signifies to bind under a contract, as the obligor is held and firmly bound. In the constitution of the United States, it is provided, that no person held to service or labor in one state under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on the claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due. Art. 4, sec. 3, Sec. 3; 2 Serg. & R. 306; 3 Id. 4; 5 Id. 52; 1 Wash. C. C. R. 500; 2 Pick. 11; 16 Pet. 539, 674.

You use it in those contexts. You've answered your own question. I was PRESUMING estates, but since it's bullshit anyway, the point is moot.

Ok, now that the tumbleweeds have left the building... :D Let's get back to the Remittance vs. Cheque resemblance. Does this part of the Bills of Exchange Act have something to do with that?: 47. Where a bill is drawn or endorsed by any infant, minor or CORPORATION having no capacity or power to incur liability on a bill, the drawing or endorsement entitles the holder to receive payment of the bill and to enforce it against any other party thereto. So as say, utility companies are operating in bankruptcy, they do not have the power to incur liability on a bill? Would that be correct?

No :P

When SFC Inc receives its Hydro Bill......the only option I see for SFC Inc is to cut a check...and HYDRO will cut SFC's service if SFC Inc don't PAY. The way I get that article 47, is a MINOR and/or a CORPORATION, can't complete a bill of exchange sent by a utility company, they can't be the DRAWEE, and/or the DRAWER, and/or the BENEFICIARY..... For a MINOR, its LEGAL guardian would have to administrate the debt, by supra protesting it...... Maybe I could SUPRA PROTEST for SFC Inc as well, not too sure on that one..... That's the way I get it, but I may be waaayyyy...in the bushes with that :D

No capacity or power on acting as DRAWER, DRAWEE or BENEFICIARY....

If you want to get the gas bill discharged from BEVERLY's surety, BEVERLY will have to be the DRAWER "AND" THE BENEFICIARY, same for Gail..

Have BEVERLY pay these bills with money of account, create a Bill of Exchange with BEVERLY as a drawer, BEVERLY as the BENEFICIARY, Bank of Canada as the DRAWEE, maybe a new rubber stamp for "cosumable goods", send all this to Bank of Canada, INSTRUCT them to send payment to BEVERLY.....something like that :-D

^^^ Wait....what? Where is this coming from?

:D ha!

:-D

My brain, sorry....

Pete Daoust is a bit farther ahead in his understanding, Chris. That's why he can produce the right answer. ;)

I understand that. And I REALLY want to catch up. But I am having some blocks. I am not sure why I can't grasp it. And......It is PISSING ME THE FUCK OFF!

Ok, so if I create a Bill to Pete (creating a liability), I have supplied the remedy being the Valuable Consideration of my time in creating a graphically stimulating mock-up of Pete's Law Dictionary, correct?

Ok, forget that. The remedy is required in the public bankruptcy for payment, not for private. Pete and Bev are not bankrupt. I think I need to look into this bankruptcy stuff a little more, yes?

No

Ho no, the day dreamer is here again ! :-(

same here Chris Evan, i also have trouble grasping a lot of this. pisses me off too :(

What is it you can't grasp ? :-\

Ask away! This is the place.

how to get to think the way you do

Ho!

there's lots of info here but sometimes i get trouble fitting it together

Laurent VH, don't forget to answer the question posted: "What is it you can't grasp ?" Pete is always "going somewhere" when asking questions.

especially when i start translating to dutch

well for starters money or "legal tender" i don't fully understand it

I don't grasp how BEVERLY can be the BENEFICIARY and DRAWER

i mean if i had to explain legal tender to someone i don't think i could

like different currencies?

Chris Evan, if CHRIS has a bank account a BANK OF AMERICA, and a bank account at ING BANK.......can CHRIS write a check from its Bank of America account to the order of CHRIS and deposit that check in CHRIS account at ING Bank ?

NO. Chris is AMERICAN, and you are presuming an American can read/write. :D

There is that ! :-D

Sorry, I digress your lesson, Pete Daoust! Forgive me! Do, carry on!

Chris Evan !! :-\

Hurry up Chris Evan, I have a fucking forklift to crash and burn o_O

I just got here!

Got it

<<Pete Daoust: When I am finished ADMINISTRATING a Bill of Exchange, it's indeed, a CHECK...... The DRAWER, the one that made the check is PIERRE DAOUST The Surety, Bank, Drawee, is Bank of Canada (That is WHY I have this Bank of Canada rubber stamp, to make sure the bank is well identified on the face of the instrument.) And the Payee, beneficiary, the one that has the OBLIGATION to present this check to the bank, is HYDRO-QUEBEC, CRA, QRA, City of Montreal....or who ever started this Bill of Exchange, and sent it to PIERRE DAOUST...... May 24 at 3:13pm � Unlike � 1 Pete Daoust The DRAWER and the BENEFICIARY can be the same PERSON though HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! May 24 at 3:17pm � Unlike � 1>> <<Pete Daoust: Lets say PIERRE DAOUST goes to the grocery store to buy some food, and decides to PAY with MONEY OF ACCOUNT (credit card) It is OBVIOUSLY the SOLE authorized Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST that will have to do this, so, as a good administrator, I will keep the receipts for this. But �legally�, who bought these consumable products ? PIERRE DAOUST did, and PIERRE DAOUST has a SURETY at a bank, which happen to be Bank of Canada�. So me, as a good administrator, what prevents me to DRAW a check to PIERRE DAOUST (beneficiary), from PIERRE DAOUST�s account at Bank of Canada, which account, happens to have an UNLIMITED credit limit ? This seems to be pure ACCOUNTING>> <<Pete Daoust: Here is what I am THINKING of doing.... 1). Make a grocery for PIERRE DAOUST. 2). Have PIERRE DAOUST use MONEY OF ACCOUNT to PAY for that Grocery. 3). Create a Bill of Exchange, the SAME way HYDRO-QUEBEC creates theirs....with PIERRE DAOUST as a drawer, "CASH" as a beneficiary, and Bank of Canada as the Drawee.... 4). Complete that Bill of Exchange, to turn it into a check. 5). Send that that check to Bank of Canada, with the receipt, with some CONSIDERATION (a certified copy of PIERRE DAOUST's birth certificate.) 6). INSTRUCT Bank of Canada to send payment to the order of "CASH", at PIERRE DAOUST's legal address. (Thinking out loud !! ) but it completely makes sense in my brain ! May 24 at 3:58pm � Unlike � 4 Pete Daoust Bank dosen't really MAKE so much money, they mostly KEEP so much money, because of IGNORANCE of the crowd>> Chris Evan

ok...I need to think on this.

Thanks

THINK !!!!! :O

Yes....burn into my tiny protoplasm

watch money as debt pt iii over a few times try to think, schitsophrenia, and wich one are we talking to/about now. one thing can be multiple things at different times applicable.

:-D

likewise that is why a paper should have defigned specifically what it's purpose and/or intent is supposed to be at the earliest convienience [at the top]. CHARTER (fishing and/or otherwise) : NOTICE : TREATY : CONSTITUTION : TRUST : AFFADAVID(T) : BILL : INVOICE : OATH : WILL : LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT : RECIEPT : ETC. non-negotiable ... without recourse ... governed by the rules and guidelines of common law ... this note [however fake] subjects the bearer to legal tender obligating the holder to accept everything bad that could occur because of it.

CHRIS is the slave, which is the full, and sole responsibility of the owner. The owner is not Chris, the Man. Chris can only administrate for the owner. Chris is NOT the slave. Why is Chris, the Man, paying for stuff for CHRIS, the slave? :/ Since it's THEIR system, and it's not Chris's fault, many of those expenses for CHRIS, may be fairly returned to the real creditor, Chris the Man. He is the one to put his TIME to pay for all that stuff for CHRIS. And we know Chris is NOT a slave. With the RECEIPTS, and some CONSIDERATION, the Federal Reserve Bank, in our case, may act as the drawee for a Bill of Exchange that the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for CHRIS will create, and present to the Federal Reserve Bank, since CHRIS is also payee, and it's the OBLIGATION of the payee (it's NOT payee, but BENEFICIARY, please not this correction) to present this to the the bank that holds the surety. And all this it's not Chris's fault! :D Pete Daoust, is this correct ?

It's beneficiary, not payee :-P

Sorry, you are right. I made a mistake. Thanks, Pete!

Let�s say Chris the MAN went to the grocery store and got a RECEIPT for goods, that RECEIPT is a proof of DISBURSEMENT in an ACCOUNT in which EVERY SINGLE FUCKIN CENT was DEPOSITED in exchange for Chris the MAN�s time sweat and blood. That RECEIPT is a VALUABLE SECURITY. Its VALUE is the AMOUNT which it PROVES has been paid. Let's say the RECEIPT has a $100 VALUE. If you can PROVE CHRIS EVAN has a VALUE of $100, then CHRIS EVAN�s SURETY must be AT LEAST $100, right ? Let�s say CHRIS EVAN used $100 of MONEY OF ACCOUNT which was DISBURSED from his checking ACCOUNT� Chris the MAN is the one who worked his ass, time sweat and blood, to give CHRIS EVAN that value. Chris the MAN is the Sole Authorized Administrator for CHRIS EVAN. Chris the MAN has the right to CHRIS EVAN�s SURETY. What�s Chris the MAN gonna do ? Act like a slave ?? Why would he do that ? You are the creditor. Without you, there's no MONEY. The Birth Certificate is an UNLIMITED CREDIT LIMIT. Your signature gives VALUE to ANYTHING you sign. You can GIVE VALUE and you can CREATE MONEY ! From an administrative point of view, it only seems like a logical decision to send that VALUABLE SECURITY over to CHRIS EVAN�s SURETY, which isn't you, so it can do what it�s supposed to do ! Now the scary part : It all seems to make sense� And you know what they say : ALWAYS KEEP THE RECEIPT :p The only thing I don't get is when Pete Daoust says �CASH as a beneficiary�..?

"...I stopped dead in my tracks as soon as I heard what they were asking for, gave them my receipt, and have always wondered since, what was the purpose of them asking for the 'RECEIPT' of all things..." Scott Duncan: Now you know. And ultimately- a "valuable security" would need to eventually be 'redeemed,' correct Scott?

Re: Will Bed: The only thing I don't get is when Pete Daoust says �CASH as a beneficiary�..? Have you ever written a cheque, where on the top line, instead of writing a 'name' as the beneficiary, yo have made the cheque out to 'cash?' Then, when the cheque is presented at the bank, instead of the corresponding amount being entered into an account, the cashier hands back cash across the counter in exchange for the cheque. That's the mechanics as I comprehend it.

Re: Chip Douglas: And ultimately- a "valuable security" would need to eventually be 'redeemed,' The holder may redeem it, sell it to another party for a percentage of its face value (negotiate its value with a third party), gift it to a third party, deposit it as an asset into a corporation (adding to the paper value of the company), deposit it into a trust as a trust asset.... Ultimately, the holder in due course may claim the value, or do what we all used to do up until reading this thread: burn it, shred it or bin it in which case the value would not be redeemed.

Iv heard of notaries could you get one to help inforce your claim ? iv heard a sheriff will inforce these but its all I know as im pretty new at this n don't know where you'd get one.

Stuart Stone I actually never did that or heard of that... To get cash, I would always debit the account once the cheque was deposited... So I guess it's time to contact Bank of Canada and ask them about the proper procedure for a PERSON to redeem some of those receipts...

Stuart Stone, have you ever made a check to the order of "CASH" ? I did, so I am thinking, what prevents me from creating a Bill of Exchange with these three parties: DRAWER: PIERRE DAOUST DRAWEE: BANK OF CANADA BENEFICIARY: "CASH" With these paid bills, for example, these GROCERY bills to back it up....this is where I got this THINKING from....

Pete Daoust that's creating a liability. Wouldn't you have to offer the remedy as we...as in a discharge date or something??

Or could you cancel it via restrictive wording on an instrument...?

I have no idea what you are talking about, Chris Evan :(

Yes Pete Daoust I have, when I needed to give a mate payment but didn't have available cash & we weren't near a cash machine/automatic teller. But I haven't yet tried by creating a Bill of Exchange, however it makes logical sense. The mechanics of the process appears to be the same as transferring 'money' from one account to another by way of cheque eg: from Bank account A to Bank Account B, but instead drawing it as cash

Pete. By requesting CASH are you not creating a liability?

Chris Evan, the process is more likely converting money of account to money of exchange

Yes. I know.

No, they will still send a piece of paper, made to the order of "CASH", and I will EXCHANGE that piece of paper for whatever I want.... :/

ANYBODY will be able to DEPOSIT that thing.....

I never done this neither, but will find out for sure :)

Ahhh...OK. I get it now

Scott Duncan " you only need cash when you are spending it. All other times its a liability"

That's EXACTLY it !!!!....The cash received, already been spent.. :)

All I need is a CREDIT card.... :D

For several months now, I know that Government MONEY is made to be used by PERSONS, not me, so it's THEIR money......well, so be it !! :D

I "ONLY" have the RIGHT to this person's surety :P

Or maybe I should just give POWER of ATTORNEY to Roguesupport Nx on this shit.... :D Send ALL the bills to Scott :D

the commercial dealings of the man? :/

Me, as the SOLE authorized Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST, I give power of attorney to ABC Inc to ADMINISTRATE all commercial stuff for PIERRE DAOUST.....

I just went to court house with friend who is paying his traffic fine Clerk: payment will be $600 Me: $20 is fine Clerk: no full payment is required Me: then your refusing payment. Bills of exchange then puts you in dishonor and discharges the debt please make note of that Clerk: your right... $20 is fine

Now could this work with the debt my person has with Manitoba hydro or will they simply cut my hydro off?

They could cut off JASON's hydro. But, why would you want to do that, when you know the surety has unlimited overdraft powers? Who cares if it is a 3 million public debt, if the responsible party is NOT Jason, the man? :/ Just administrate! :D

I want to.. Just heard of others who have tried that with hydro only for the fuckers to cut off

Jason, you lent $600 to someone, and now that someone owes you $600, would you accept $20 to settle the debt? :/ A yes, or no answer.

No

It's a PRIVATE DEBT, not a public debt, remember.

OK

Good answer. Then, that is why you most honour your contracts. If you are not planning on paying back, do not get into contract. And if you are an administrator, you must administrate! :D

So administrate hydro like I would Cra... Stamp the back

Only if it's a PUBLIC DEBT, yes you may administrate the debt, via it's surety.

OK. For some reason I thought Cra and hydro was public... But it's private. Then what is a bank loan and can that be done in the same fashion

Jason, CRA and hydro are most likely PUBLIC debts. Please check.

OK

Hydro has 96 on bottom right corner on remittance voucher which means it's public correct?

I have a question for Admiral Scott Duncan, or Captain Pete. In a private debt, if my person has no access to any form of "payment" or "monies", may the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR make an offer to settle the account by using his/her TIME as the only thing of VALUE he/she posses? Let's say my person has a private debt with a bank. My person is broke. It/he cannot keep my end of the bargain. Now my person owes the bank $20,000.00 May I offer my time, at an hourly rate, to settle the account? "Dear Vampire's Bank: My person does not have any money, nor will it have access to money any time soon. Fortunately for us, I have something of VALUE to offer: my time! So, I may offer my TIME at a rate of $1,000 an hour, to settle the debt of my person. I am ready to go clean, or throw the garbage out. Let me know when can I start settling the account. SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for ME" :/ ?

If slavery it's really abolished, this should work.

They may accept your offer for your time, but they may very well also counter offer on what the value of your time is for them...

Another thing Scott recently responded to me with regarding a question i had: "RECEIPT=PROOF-OF-TITLE"..... would you "ask" the BANK OF CANADA Will Bed, or would you give them INSTRUCTIONS, DIRECTING them on what it is you WISH for them to do for you?...just wondering

Lets assume what you are telling it's real, Will. If that is the case, NO ONE has the AUTHORITY to decide how much my time it's worth. MONEY steals that from us. It steals the ability for US to decide how much out time it's worth, if we do not control that "money." If slavery it's over, they cannot dictate how much VALUE my time it's worth. And of course, the VALUE of MY TIME is NOT subject to negotiation.

Please, someone tell me I am crazy! :D

If slavery is over, then they would not try to block anyone from discharging their debts against this Security-of-Person THEY say we have the right to. However...maybe they are blocking "anyone," because only the Beneficiary has the right to access it. And maybe, the Beneficiary, has yet to be ASCERTAINED in their/the Government's eyes?

Where do you get that from, Chip? Did you learned that here? I must had missed that post. :/

<<Receiver's certificate A debt instrument issued by a receiver and serving as a lien on the property, which provides funding to continue operations or to protect assets in receivership.>>

Mackximus Minimus you are totally right, but they WILL want to negotiate on what it's worth anyways. You cannot come here and tell me your time is more valuable than mine if we were both to accomplish the same task in the same amount of time... If you say "Hey I'm gonna mow your lawn for 1000$/hour" and they have a guy already doing it for 20$, they won't accept your offer... What can you do for me which is worth 1000$/hour ? Then we can talk. Because if your time is worth 1000$, go work for someone else, load up that wallet and come back when you can pay me ;) Chip, I'd NOTIFY them of what I wish to do, but I couldn't INSTRUCT them on doing something which I don't know yet what the proper procedure is... So I'd tell them that I wish they disclose the complete proper procedure or tell me where I can find all that info or prove me it cannot be done...

Deduction. I do not have the right to MACKXIMUS MINIMUS' 'security,' the same as you would not have the right to CHIP DOUGLAS' 'security.' And the Birth Certificate is certainly not just made out in Bearer form, it specifically identifies the 'person' who is entitled. Stephen Harper has his own person named STEPHEN HARPER. Not even Stephen Harper is entitled to the person named to CHIP DOUGLAS.

So Will, if they REFUSE my offer, it means it has been ACCEPTED! Refusal of payment IS ACCEPTANCE! :D And it's not my fault! Plus, you may pose theories on how expensive my janitor fees are, but I KNOW that it only belongs TO ME to decide! :D I am NOT a slave! :P

refusal is dishonour, which discharges the debt.

<<You cannot come here and tell me your time is more valuable than mine if we were both to accomplish the same task in the same amount of time...>> Oh yes, I can! :D If I would be a slave, I could accept your theory, Will. But, fortunately, NO ONE EVER AGAIN will tell ME how much my time is VALUED or worth. :D

Chip, does deduction equals to "pulling stuff out of your ass"? :/ Because it sounds that way.

<<�WHOEVER CREATES THE LIABILITY MUST PROVIDE THE REMEDY�>> :D

I hear you Mackximus Minimus, but them not accepting your offer does not mean they would be REFUSING it, presenting a COUNTER OFFER would not be refusal... I'm just not sure how long that ball game would last... My guess is you initially both agreed on the value of 1$... I just see it as if they never agreed that YOUR TIME is worth 1000$/h, it's hard to come up with that and not respect / change the terms of the initial contract...

6 years ago I had a $55000 loan at a credit Union... I sent them a letter saying I'll gladly pay if you can provide me the original document signed by me and the banker... Prove I'm the debtor... Prove you're at a loss if no money gets deposited into loan. Loan got discharged just last year v no letters back... No phone calls and kept my car

�Oh yes, I can! If I would be a slave, I could accept your theory, Will. But, fortunately, NO ONE EVER AGAIN will tell ME how much my time is VALUED or worth.� Well, from a contract pt of view, I think the value of your time would have to be established up front in order to be recognized as such under that specific contract... You are not a slave, but the other party in a contract isn't your slave neither... Forcing the other party to take a LOSS based on terms they never agreed to sounds like you are the one in dishonour...