The Tender For Law

Volume 6

May 17, 2014 7:49 PM

Ceit Butler

Well that's an hour of my life I'll never get back! Transcript follows: Sovereign UnderGod: actually im not begging for money i was answering their questions is all...

Me: You posted a link to your gofundme "campaign"... How is that "not begging for money"?

Sovereign UnderGod: i was explaing why i have done all this... u guys asked i wasnt campaining to u http://youtu.be/D2Wjjvip-Wk this is why u didnt let me finish explaining

Me: If put even the TINIEST amount of effort into investigating this group first, you would have noticed a few things. First: The name. "The Tender for Law" is in reference to money, and the "legal tender" attached to it. This group teaches you how to detach yourself from that legal tender.

Sovereign UnderGod: and the only reason im campaining is to raise awareness...im not expectingto get funds ok but y its there for remedy for the fraud http://www.lectlaw.com/def/f111.htm "Fiction Of Law" Defined & Explained www.lectlaw.com

Me: Second: The pinned post, and many OTHER posts, address the illogical fallacy that is religion. You're coming into the group with two strikes against you already. If you want to raise awareness, RAISE AWARENESS! Asking for money will turn away more people than it attracts. That kills your message.

Sovereign UnderGod: you have no idea what religion i am

Me: Remedy for the fraud? Remedy from who? Who are you going to take this matter to, the courts that are perpetuating the fraud?

Sovereign UnderGod: no its administrative...i am the court

Me: As if it matters WHICH religion you ascribe to, they are all EQUALLY ludicrous.

Sovereign UnderGod: NO its called UCA Unique Collective Awareneess collective conciousness my friend maybe u shouldt be so quik to judge here http://one-heaven.org/covenant/article/8.html that might explain

Me: ALL religions are bullshit. Belief of any kind, especially in a "higher power", or "divine creator" is nothing more than delusion. Adults with imaginary friends.

Sovereign UnderGod: its all of us.... whois the high power collective conciousness

Me: Ahh, yes. Frank O'Collins...I'm sorry, I just can't take anything seriously that comes from a man that claims to have had visions from angels.

Sovereign UnderGod: judge not lest ye be judged

Me: Funny, the "non-religious" guy is now quoting the Bible...

Sovereign UnderGod: oh is that bible? 'er babble? 500+ followers on my babble so far...been here a month

Me: It's funny, anyone who ISN'T religious would be locked up and medicated if they claimed to have an invisible, all-powerful, omniscient friend that watched over them from above. Who sent visions of winged beings to deliver messages to them, who they talked to on a regular basis and asked for personal favours. But if you attach a religious label to this insanity, suddenly it becomes socially acceptable.

Sovereign UnderGod: i never claimed that at all u assumed did i?

Me: You follow Frank O'Collins, who DOES make these claims. Your "religion" originates from a man that does.

Sovereign UnderGod: is this what u are talking about? http://youtu.be/gPOfurmrjxo George Carlin on Religion and God youtu.be its not quite religion...if you took the time to read that UCA link you would see what im talking about its a failsafe against religion is what i would call it

Me: I think I've been quite clear and concise in what I am talking about. While I respect and agree with the man, I'm not sure how George Carlin entered the conversation.

Sovereign UnderGod: u said "an invisible man" "wh always need samoney" lol

Me: The entire concept originates from a man who is an admitted former Jesuit priest, who claims that angels have visited him on multiple occasions. That taints ANYTHING else that he may have to say.

Sovereign UnderGod: its protection against religion thats not actually correct he was a janous priest and the hjesuits TRIED to recruit him now he fights them he has dissolved the vatican with his law and now im using it to dissolve the BAR Temple Bar priests of Baahl evil fucks

Me: Dissolved the Vatican, eh? They seem to still currently be alive and thriving

Sovereign UnderGod: window dressing they are falling crumbling the lien is cured in june

Me: Your name is "Sovereign underGOD"... You don't get to announce yourself by his name, and then claim to NOT be religious. See how that works?

Sovereign UnderGod: 3 year lien process its in the judges benchbook... its what gives them immunity

Me: So it must be true?

Sovereign UnderGod: works for me If the entire thing is fraud, why would you want to associate yourself with any part of it? i tried to fight it...it is easier to infiltrate destroy from within

Me: There is NO "higher power", there is NO "creator". We're all just semi-evolved chimps and originated from stardust. That's it. How have you "infiltrated" anything?

Sovereign UnderGod: yes but there is 100 monkey effect and critical mass collective concious is real

Me: You're publicly campaigning to raise funds to take them down. This word you're using, "infiltrate", I do not think it means what you think it means.

Sovereign UnderGod: lots of studies prove it no im campaining to gain awareness for critical mass

Me: Well, collective retarded-ness, perhaps

Sovereign UnderGod: i am not expecting money besides i get money from promisorries

Me: "Infiltrate, verb: to enter or gain access to (an organization, place, etc.) surreptitiously and gradually, especially in order to acquire secret information." Tell me, how does publicly campaigning for cash fit into your stealthy plan?

Sovereign UnderGod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUZFnaVPaoU The 100th Monkey Theory - The Law Of Critical Mass #275 www.youtube.com i was quiet tell i set up the account now i am exposing with proof

Me: So what is it you are infiltrating with this "UnderGod" crap, and how?

Sovereign UnderGod: i have infiltrated and now i am showing the masses whats up it lets the judges know that i know their secrets thats all anyway good luck...have fun try not to judge

Me: You have infiltrated what, exactly? And how have you accomplished this?

Sovereign UnderGod: well their system by applying the remedy available the birth bond redeemed at the treasury wickit and deposited to the DTC i have a direct treasury account with 100 billion in it...i have all the account numbers would u like to check it? do u know anyone elase that can offer you account numbers ? http://www.dtcc.com/

Me: And what could referring to yourself as "under god" possibly have to do with that?

Sovereign UnerGod: OMG u r stuk on tha arent u no pun intended lol its a mecanism to secure my person in court the judge immediatly knows that i know their secrets they treat me with fear they are afraid

Me: Of course they do...

Sovereign UnderGod: as they should be they are public servants

Me: So, I have to ask. Of all the people commenting on the thread, why exactly would you choose me to respond to privately?

Sovereign UnderGod: i messaged the others...u are the only one willing to convers i guess well because its pretty easy to bash someone when they cant defend themselves hey tey kiked me

Me: Okay...but why leave the group forum...the one where everyone WAS speaking to you?

Sovereign UnderGod: without letting me explain and are now on attack they baned me i didnt leave they banned me then attacked when i couldnt defend those are your buddies hey not very honorable IMHO poor excuse for "administrators"

Me: We don't take kindly to bullshit. Leading with money and religion...it was only a matter of time.

Sovereign UnderGod: well its not bullshit i can bak everything so there ya have it they are afraid i guess no biggie i have my own groups going..just wanted to have some decent conversation Anything involving money or religion IS bullshit. but i guess you all cant even have a discussion without being afraid of where it might lead wich leads me to believe that its them tat is bullshit

Me: No, we just don't tolerate lies. You obviously have NO idea what money is.

Sovereign UnderGod: lol yaok

Me: Anyways, this is going nowhere.

Sovereign UnderGod: thats why i use paper instruments ya good luck..have fun..stay safe nice chatting bye

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Chip Douglas

"by applying the remedy available the birth bond redeemed at the treasury wickit and deposited to the DTC i have a direct treasury account with 100 billion in it...i have all the account numbers would u like to check it? do u know anyone elase that can offer you account numbers ? http://www.dtcc.com/"

He could've at least told us where the "treasury wickit" is... :(

Is it as easy as he just made it seem, Scott?

Ceit Butler

"Proposed joint venture to streamline margin settlement processes and enhance access to collateral worldwide, improving the safety and soundness of the financial markets."

Boy, that sentence says a whole lot of nothing, doesn't it? But it's got a whole bunch of big words that sure sound good!

Scott Duncan

"Proposed joint venture to streamline margin settlement processes and enhance access to collateral worldwide, improving the safety and soundness of the financial markets." - Seriously Chip Douglas, I want YOU to tell ME what that says!

Seriously, your love of BULLSHIT is going to keep you RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE NOW.

Scott Duncan

After you struggle with that, please point out ANYTHING that's not a fraud that says things like "Proposed joint venture to streamline margin settlement processes and enhance access to collateral worldwide, improving the safety and soundness of the financial markets.".

Just one example. On the entire planet. Just one.

When you're done that, please point out where I (The only living being that tells you the ACTUAL VERIFIABLE TRUTH) ever explain something by saying things like "Proposed joint venture to streamline margin settlement processes and enhance access to collateral worldwide, improving the safety and soundness of the financial markets."

Scott Duncan

If someone is TELLING YOU THE TRUTH, they don't need "divine authority". They don't need to belch out weasel-word phrases like "Proposed joint venture to streamline margin settlement processes and enhance access to collateral worldwide, improving the safety and soundness of the financial markets.". They just need to speak.

I don't possess ANY mental powers that you don't. Neither do these fraud artists. If it's real, you don't need bullshit weasel-words to explain it.

Scott Duncan

Let me drive that point home:

If it's real, you don't need bullshit weasel-words to explain it.

If it's real, you don't need bullshit weasel-words to explain it.

If it's real, you don't need bullshit weasel-words to explain it.

Scott Duncan

I can explain the most complex concepts in computer science with NO weasel-words. Since COMPUTER SCIENCE IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING, then it follows that, if computer science needs no weasel-words, NOTHING ELSE DOES EITHER!

Will Lawful Man

I recently resonded to the claim the legal system offered by the UCADIA/One-Heaven site was the highest form of law on earth. --Sovereign UnderGod, before making any claim of a system being superior to all other systems, it is logical to have a working understanding of the many different systems of Law and legal systems, and, the way in which they are structured and relate. In Article 89.2, reference to the standards of Divine Law is made. Considering what divinity actually is as a process of the Mind and comparing that process to the words of the document, it becomes quite clear that the document does not follow the form of any Law, but adheres to the structure and function of the legislation it would serve to replace. So called 'Divine Law' does hold the highest position within the structuring of the various legal systems which observe the ideology of justice, collectively called 'Positive Law', however, by observing justice, it cannot be Law and is therefore not lawful. The claim of ab initio is a misleading concept serving the purpose of establishing superiority in claim of right, which is also an unlawful concept. Before there can be a "beginning" to Existence, the option for Existence to not begin exists. Before 'Existence' Is, it is only a potential Option. The other potential Option is Non Existence. Of the original Options, Existence and Non Existence, Existence is the Option actualised. This singular concept, Potential and Actual, is the foundation upon which Existence stands. This concept of Potential and Actual is also clearly expressed as 'Option and (Choice?), or simply, Free Will and it is The Law. The Being of Man is the highest form of who and what each man and woman is and the Being of Man is our direct source of The Law, our Option and Choice, our Free Will. There is no way for Free Will to be taken from Man and there is no way for Man to be rid of Free Will. There can be no lawful intervenor between Man and The Law. Your legislation is proved wrong when considered through an intellect clear of belief or fiction. To prove you wrong would first require that you put your own words here and secondly, that your words were wrong. I have shown your claim that the legal systems offered by UCADIA, et al, was incorrect and that it was not actually Law and is unlawful, however, in that it was in the form of a debate, you were merely mistaken, not wrong.