Could always go with the whole V.C. before your signature,
Or you could demand to keep the original copy. Anything they fill out otherwise without your signature is fraud.
Come to think... back in 1997 when I bore my "she-devil", I blew out of the hospital within 6 hrs and hadn't named her. They called me everyday for a week asking what I had named her. I don't think I signed anything... :/
Ok, her water just broke and we're on our way there now. We haven't actually settled on a name and the gender is still a surprise. I thought about making a copy and keeping the original but I hadn't thought to name him VOID... Can't tell if serious lol. I'm under some stress at the moment so forgive me if I fucking lose it later.
Do not sign anything, do not give any names to your baby yet, tell them you need to think about it....
ASK QUESTIONS, like WHY you want me to sign this and that....is it to put my son in colateral versus the public debt....WHY WHY WHY...you know what I mean ?...good luck with the baby ;-)
Dear Government, and/or Hospital, and/or Agent, and/or Employee...
I will sign anything you want, if you guarantee me, that you won't put my baby in colateral on ANY PUBLIC DEBT :P
Ho, and I will be the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR of ANY public document created in regards of this new born human, until he/she reaches 18.
And I want CONSIDERATION, lots of it.... :D
And I don't want you use the same name as his/her GIVEN name for ANY public Document you may want to CREATE.......I keep the RIGHT to choose the PUBLIC names .....SLINGSHOT DAOUST would work perfectly for his/her PERSON's name.......his/her TAKEN name will be decide in my office.....in PRIVATE :P
It's a baby girl. Happy, healthy, beautiful and My PROPERTY.
This nurse we had, threatened me with child family services if I didn't sign this paperwork of live birth record... And I was being a perfect gentleman, only asking questions honourably and honestly wanting answers to questions like "Am I obligated by law to sign this document?" "By who's authority?" and that's all it took for her to mention "negligence" on my part and "child family services" so I'm kind of pissed off that my concern has brought her to the brink of informing authorities.
SO I also REFUSED the screening process where they poke a hole in my property and take blood samples for supposed screening, and the doctor said he might have to contact child family services because it is neglect to place my child in potential danger... I asked him to advise me on the correct course of action based on his professional opinion so I'm not neglecting anything. Also I asked if I had a right to refuse the screening and he claimed he'd NEVER HAD ANYONE REFUSE BEFORE ME and I asked him to make sure I had no right to refuse... He came back with a pamphlet and a print out detailing my RIGHT TO REFUSE SCREENING.
What an ordeal this is. I'm still unsure of what to do here. I'm not prepared to take on child family kidnappers.
The'll threaten until the cows come home. It's empty threats.
How can they take away something that does not belong to them? That's kidnapping/theft.
They are PUBLIC SERVANTS. Remember, they serve YOU.
They're trying to COERCE you into contract. Ask to keep the original copy, also, ask them the questions pete mentioned. As it's a contract - a bond, you have the right to have your stipulations upheld before you sign anything.
Refusal of screening is just hospital policy bs. They're liable if anything goes wrong unless you sign a waiver saying if anything goes wrong it's your fault and thus you can't sue.
Ok well so far we are having no screening testing or vaccinations in our fabulous healthy baby princess. I've asked the 2nd rotation nurse to find out what authority is making it mandatory for me to sign as she thinks it's mandatory... I know she's going to ask around and eventually come back with the obvious fraudulent answer of "vital statistics act" so how should I proceed?
if a stranger comes to your door and attempts to kidnap your daughter.. property or offspring, whatever you want to call her, what lengths would you go to prevent them from doing that?
isnt there only ONE right answer?
Pete gave you great guidance on this already...^^^^^
he is NOT joking.
you may be anxious right now but perhaps you could create your own contract with your own terms and conditions. based on Pete's guidance.
and sign THAT one. not theirs.
Ask the Questions that Pete asked. If they cannot give you those answers in written form as PROOF, refuse to contract. Or you can demand to keep the original.
THEY ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS, THEY SERVE YOU.
Personally, if they continue to persist, I would start threatening action as compensation for pain and suffering you endured from their coercion - especially in such a delicate and fragile time.
Their threats are 110% hollow, backed by nothing other than well you have to do it because that's just the way we think it is.
Arbitrary.
Either sign it VOID or put [ ] around your signature (leaves it out of the document). If you are legally married they CAN persist in taking your child because that is what Legal Marriage Contract is about.
As soon as you try to have a kid and they find out you're together, they apparently slap the common law label on you faster than you can blink either way - basically the same thing as marriage licence for the court system incase you split up - in which case they can still steal your kid. hell, I have a friend who wasn't with a boyfriend by the time the delivery rolled around, and they still stole her kid giving her visitation rights but raised by the province. Unless it's different from what i've been told, that's what I was told by them, their lips to my ears - but it varies from province to province.
Marriage licence or not, you can still dictate stipulations on the bond they are now attempting to coerce you into signing for your child.
If they don't satisfy your terms that you want fulfilled, screw them.
They are PUBLIC SERVANTS. THEY SERVE YOU.
The way I see it, YOU NEVER REFUSE, you say YES, I want to sign, but I just need to know what is it I am signing, and WHY I need to sign it.....I WANT, but I have a few questions.....
1). Is this in regards with DEBTS, and/or SURETY, and/or MONEY... ?
2). ...Are you going to create a brand spanking new person for my baby girl ?
3) ...WHO will be SURETY for that new PERSON ?
As the SOLE authorized Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST, and PIERRE & NADINE (marriage), I NEVER REFUSE STUFF....
I always say: YES, I want, but I have a few questions :P
And these questions are not AMATEUR questions :D
I'm blessed. I get to know all this now as compared to later.
Although my god is it ever a lot to know. And there's never 1 sure fire way of doing it! XD
Eh, lucky, blessed. Same meaning in this instance.
Either way I got drawn a pretty good hand in the knowledge and connections department when it comes to law at such a young age.
better now than never.
bless�ed (bl?s'?d) also blest (bl?st)
adj.
1.
a. Worthy of worship; holy.
b. Held in veneration; revered.
2. Blessed Roman Catholic Church Used as a title before the name of one who has been beatified.
3. Bringing happiness, pleasure, or contentment.
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They ALL do. Remember when I purged the theists and made the group secret, so you could actually learn? That's why.
They are ALL adults with imaginary friends.
Intellect is my damnation.
I see dumb people!
They're EVERYWHERE. They walk around all day, and they don't even know they're dumb.
...and they're HERE now.
Bruno, "On the record, I am stating categorically Doc/Nurse that I am ready to sign but before I do I want you to document and verify my obligation, please."
well, first off, I would try to get away with as little administration as possible [but thats me, so i could waste more time here, been busy latley]. all one has to do is remain honorable, and ask questions.
tell them its on the mothers tab, and that she will vouch for you being it's father at the next meeting
what you say all depends on what your asked. take notes, tell them you will get back to them about it.
maybe paint the kids feet before they can rubber stamp them, or put little booties on him. make sure you and/or somonelse trusted, doesnt let it get out of sight, not even a moment. and dont let it get injections and/or fed without a warantee & liability statements by the party...