The first one is a Black rubber stamps that says:
Bank of Canada
I stamp that sucker on the front of the BoE, because the three parties of a BoE needs to be correctly IDENTIFIED on a BoE.
So I stamp this one underneath the long series of numbers at the top of the instrument. As I said, I am pretty sure this long series of numbers identifies somehow the Bank of Canada, but I can't prove it, so I take no chances :P
The second one is a RED rubber stamp that says: SEE BACK FOR ENDORSEMENT.
I put that sucker on the fron as well, so the one that receives this completed BoE, has no choice to turn that completed BoE, to see back for endorsement :D
Apparently (not sure at 100%) if I don't do that, they have no obligation to turn that BoE, and can ASSUME that I haven't PAID for the debt, and I have made a mistake, so, I take no chances :P
The third one is a black subber stamp that says:
ACCEPTED BY:
I put that sucker at the top left on the back of the BoE, and I "GIVE" my signature just besides of it, at the right....
This mean that, as the sole authorized administrator for the DRAWER, I ACCEPT the debt on that BoE, and AUTHORIZE its DISCHARGE.......after all, Bank of Canada is MY bank :P
The fourth one, is a very special custom made stamp I have made.....
Its goes like this
ACCOUNT NUMBER: 26X-XXX-XXX
Date
INSCRIPTION NUMBER: 1196604XXXXXX
I put that sucker right underneath the ACCEPTED BY stamp, it identifies the ACCOUNT NUMBER of PIERRE DAOUST, its inscription number, and the date the SOLE authorized Admin accepted that debt....
The fifth one is a black rubber stamp that says:
Bills of Exchange Act
R.S.C., 1985, c. B-4
I put that sucker underneath the fourth stamps, it's just to give a reference on where I have got all that shit from....I don't think it is necessary, but I think it's cool to put it :D
I send the ORIGINAL to the beneficiary, and I keep a copy of it......if you decide to NOT administrate a BoE, but to VOID it instead, then you keep the ORIGINAL and send a copy....I never did that so far......do not mix stuff....
Oh sorry, I always send this NOTICE with all completed BoE I administrate.....I don't SIGN this NOTICE, but I seal it with my special seal :D
AVIS POUR FRAIS ADMINISTRATIFS CONCERNANT PIERRE DAOUST Inscription :1196604XXXXXX
TOUS DROITS R�SERV�S / SANS PR�JUDICE
�tant le seul Administrateur Autoris� pour la Personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, voici les frais administratifs concernant toutes dettes publiques envoy�es a la personne que j�ai.
Le premier processus administratif utilis� sera gratuit, gracieuset� du Seul Administrateur Autoris�.
Il est entendu et nous convenons que,si je dois administrer une dette a plusieurs reprises, parce que le b�n�ficiaire de cette dette ne connait pas la loi, et/ou est de mauvaise foi, et/ou d�cide de me cacher certains �l�ments, et/ou est tout simplement incomp�tent, les frais suivants s�appliquent.
Frais d�administration de $250.00 pour chaque communication envoy�s par MOI, au b�n�ficiaire de ladite dette.
Taux horaire de $3000.00 l�heure pour toutes demandes d�informations suppl�mentaires.
Soyez avis� que je ne rach�te AUCUNE dette publique, je choisi de l�administrer en compl�tant la lettre de change, donc, vous devez la pr�senter au paiement (Banque du Canada), sinon, PIERRE DAOUST, ayant le num�ro d�inscription 1196604XXXXXX et le num�ro d�assurance social 26X-XXX-XXX devient lib�r� de cette dette (art.84, Loi sur les lettres de change).
Autoris� Par : Le seul administrateur autoris�
NOTICE of ADMINISTRATION FEES CONCERNING PIERRE DAOUST
Inscription :1196604XXXXXX
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED / NO PREJUDICE
As the SOLE authorized Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST the person that I have, here are the ADMINISTRATIONS fees for all PUBLIC DEBTS sent to the person.
The first administrative process used will be FREE, courtesy of the Sole Authorized Administrator.
It is understood and agreed that if I have to administer the same debt several times, because the beneficiary of the said debt, does not know the law and / or act in bad faith, and / or decide to hide/concealed certain elements, and / or is simply incompetent, the following charges apply.
An administration fee of $ 250.00 for each communication sent by ME, to the beneficiary of said debt.
Hourly rate of $ 3,000.00 per hour for all requests of additional information.
Be advised that I do not buy back any public debt, I chose to administer these debts by completing the bill of exchange, therefore, you must present that COMPLETED Bill of Exchange to the payment (Bank of Canada), otherwise PIERRE DAOUST, registration number 1196604XXXXXX, social insurance number 26X-XXX-XXX becomes automatically relief from the said debt (art.84, Bills of exchange Act).
By: Sole Authorized Administrator
( SEAL)
I was thinking for specific events, like a specific charge or something like that. It seems proper formatting, to date things, so they are current.
Is it not needed to be recognized legally?
Well, for public notices maybe it doesn't matter?
I was just looking at the bill of exchange act under time constraints, the date is needed on a BOE, for sure.
Ah� ok gotcha.
I have some bills to administrate.
In many ways, I am starting from square one again :-/
Now, to have some fun.
Discharging and stamping.
Oh � It's not my fault,
I woke up and I had this thing in my pocket�
No, do not go all complicated about it.....it's there, that's all there is to know......
Do you have the RIGHT to the security/surety of that PERSON, you happen to have in your pocket, to WHOM bills were sent to ?
Bill of Rights 1960 ( I use the Quebec Charter, it's an amazing document :D )
the right of the individual to life, liberty, SECURITY of THE person
You see ? ....they are telling you THE person, you HAVE that thing, you are NOT that thing :D
The fact that it is illegal to pay a debt with debt.
If I get picked up by thugs with guns II know where to look for it.
Or Know it well enough to stand up.
Oh, is it here, or in the US ? ...I think here it's the Land of the Brave, and in US it's the land of the Fucktard......sorry, I would obviously need to VERIFY all this :/
I have three things.
I have to pick up the disclosure to get these things, or visit the clerks at the court house� I have to pick it up live as sole authorized admin.
I will then have them to process.
So, monday I will let you know.
Ok...but a bill can easely come via mail, just saying, as the SOLE authorized Administrator for the PERSON, you can say on the phone: I "WISH" you could send me this BILL as soon as possible, because I AM READY to take care of it... :D
"I NEVER DETACH THE BOE FROM THE ACCOUNT STATMENT.....do NEVER detach anything, that is Bank of Canada is job......not mine....."
Fuck. I've been sending them that piece of shit, DETACHED from the statement paper... Still waiting to hear back from them, none of them ever mentionned I did anything wrong, but they're fucktards so maybe they couldnt even tell : /
Probably bad programming glitches not cleared off yet ? But I can't recall it ever been discussed yet ?
The upper part is an invoice. Not a remittance voucher. My understanding was that we needed to administrate/return the bill itself, the voucher, the part that looks like a cheque ; not the whole thing ?
It's just now that it strikes me, that when you tear it off, you actually accept it, but fuck, I'm accepting it ANYWAYS for the PERSON !?
Well, I get it, as in the upper part / statement IS the debt ?
Actually, I picked up a NEW statement in WB's mailbox for one debt that's been administrated already, but I have reasons to believe they may just have not received their payment from WB's SURETY by the time they sent out this new STATEMENT AND COUPON...
That would seem to mean I did not actually buy that debt back when the voucher was detached ? Seems like it has not yet been bought/paid for ? If I had bought it, then they would have returned the vouchers REFUSED, right ?
But even if it may SEEM like it, the INSTRUCTIONS I send along should be enough to clear any doubt... As it stands, I have reasons to believe they accepted their instructions and are proceeding...
Anyways... It will be 60 days on Tuesday since they received the Bills of Exchange, and as a good administrator I'll be asking for an update on this account as well as explainations as to why they sent the latest statement... I guess then I'll know what's up with all that...
Sooo... Anyone else could chip in with thoughts on this Bill of Exchange "proper administration procedure" and the reason to send them the ENTIRE paper/statement withOUT detaching the coupon from it ? Am I the only stupid fuck around here who somehow managed to fuck up on this by thinking I should tear the coupon off and keep the statement ??
And.... Have you had any trouble with that thing being teared off and sent back on its own ? Do you have reasons to believe that NOT tearing it off the entire page makes the processing of the whole thing much easier or straight fwd for whoever fucktard is fucking the puppy with that at the other end ?? :p Any of them ever informed you that you had to return THE ENTIRE THING and/or that tearing it off actually is a MISTAKE ?
They NEVER informed me of ANYTHING
The NEVER communicate with me other than keep-on sending back the debt to the person.....I had to figured it all by my self.....
But since I do it the way I mention in here......they stopped sending back the debt.......
(In relation to the other thread)
Ah sure I know all that... I just thought I needed a document with the heading "BILL" on it or something...
I never posted (on Facebook) the original invoice when I mentioned Panda at first, only two sections from it so that's where you may have not realised I had a bill all along...Apologies for causing confusion...
No worries... So on the back something like...
"As sole authorised administrator for EAMONN O BRIEN, I hereby authorise the process of this bill...."
by (SIGNATURE HERE) Sole authorised administrator for the legal person EAMONN O BRIEN PPS . XXXXXXXX
Eamonn mentioned it in a comment. So I asked. I was thinking wrong. Thought others may be curious to writing on the private side .Forgive me. I will do exactly what this thread says. :)
And just to clarify, I did ask as to what I could be referred to as. I was informed that women have no rights and to read my Bible. I was booted out of TTFL. I did alright as 'My Lady". :P
Pete Daoust:
in the NOTICE OF ADMINISTRATION FEES
" ... donc, vous devez la pr�senter au paiement "
"you must present that COMPLETED Bill of Exchange to the payment (Bank of Canada)"
Janick Paquette:
c'est AU paiement et non POUR le paiement?
It's TO the payment and not FOR the payment?
Isn't the BANK OF CANADA the drawee who will make the payment TO the beneficiary by using the SURETY?
And in the letter you are adressing the Beneficiary to get the payment FROM the BANK.
Because it is my understanding that the BANK is HOLDING the SURETY.
Please correct me if I'm wrong! :)
Presentment for Payment
Marginal note:Necessity for presentment
article 84.
(1) Subject to this Act, a bill must be duly presented for payment.
Marginal note:If not presented
(2) If a bill is not duly presented for payment, the drawer and endorsers are discharged.
Marginal note:Manner of presentment
(3) Where the holder of a bill presents it for payment, he shall exhibit the bill to the person from whom he demands payment.
R.S., c. B-5, s. 85.
_____________________________
Pr�sentation au paiement
Note marginale :Obligation
84. (1) Sous r�serve des autres dispositions de la pr�sente loi, il est obligatoire de pr�senter, en bonne et due forme, la lettre au paiement.
Note marginale :D�faut de pr�sentation
(2) Le d�faut de pr�sentation en bonne et due forme lib�re le tireur et l�endosseur.
Note marginale :Mode
(3) Pour pr�senter au paiement une lettre, le d�tenteur la montre � la personne de qui il exige acquittement.
S.R., ch. B-5, art. 85.
_____________________________
ok... in English is says:
obligation
n
1 a moral or legal requirement; duty
2 the act of obligating or the state of being obligated
3 (Law) a legally enforceable agreement to perform some act, esp. to pay money, for the benefit of another party
4 (Law)
a a written contract containing a penalty
b an instrument acknowledging indebtedness to secure the repayment of money borrowed
5 a person or thing to which one is bound morally or legally
6 something owed in return for a service or favour
7 a service or favour for which one is indebted
? obligational adj
I KNOW THAT!
ok so either I'm f*cking blond or my question isn't clear! :)
I just wanted to know the difference between TO or FOR in the following sentence:
"you must present that COMPLETED Bill of Exchange to the payment (Bank of Canada)"
"It's TO the payment and not FOR the payment?"
Regarding the Bank of Canada, the bank headquarters are located at the Bank of Canada Building in the nation's capital, Ottawa.
I was reading art. 6 of the BOE Act and became curious...
Therefore, I am led to believe that there are branches of the Bank of Canada provincially.
Would this be the Royal Bank of Canada?
That's some confusing translation there. In English Art.84 says FOR=POUR but then in French it's switched to AU=TO, I don't know if they're equivalent but it seems to me the BoE is to be presented FOR payment TO "the person from whom he demands payment" = " la personne de qui il exige acquittement."
So I'm confused as to whether this person(BoC) is HOLDING surety/payment or if they ARE surety/payment?
Either way I think the important part is that once the completed BoE is sent to the Beneficiary there is no obligation on us anymore and what they do or don't do with it is not our fault. Im part frenglish and that FOR/TO bit still sounded weird to me so I thought I should say something.
The first step Jason Lerato.
You will act in good faith, and tell CRA that you have received this debt, and you WISH to take care of it asap.
You will tell them that you are the SOLE authorized Administrator for JASON LERATO, and you need CRA to disclose ALL methods available for you, to ADMINISTRATE this PUBLIC debt, via the SURETY of JASON LERATO, the PERSON you happen to "have".
So you need to draft a nice letter.... :D
It should stat like this....
Montreal, May 16th 2014
Att: CRA
Subject: Public debt administration.
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED / NO PREJUDICE
Dear CRA...
............. :D
So you need to draft a nice letter.... :/
And remember, I WISH...., I don't demand, I don't ask, I don't request, but I HAVE A WISH, and the wish is for them to DISCLOSE stuff to me ;)
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED / NO PREJUDICE should appear on every creation.......but I don't recall Scott Duncan saying it MUST be at the top.......and I never put it on the top, but after the subject....
Only when reserving LEGAL rights.
If ADMINISTERING the LEGAL PERSON, OF COURSE you want to reserve all rights.
If you are ENSLAVING the legal person, you do not. ENSLAVING means LIENING and RESIGNING from ANY AND ALL GOVERNMENT SERVICE. If you do THAT, you DON'T want to reserve LEGAL rights.
Writing letter today and I'll post it here. In doing this... Is Cra gonna target me and drag me to court or is the success rate they will stop the attack. ? New at this... Gotta ask
Ok Jason Lerato...here is the best answer I can give...
1) Is CRA's going to target "me": No, definitely not, if ever they TARGET something, it will be the PERSON you happene to have in your pocket, and I think they ALREADY done that ? ...no ?
The "success rate", this is not a fucking TEST or something, I am doing something I have the RIGHT to do, I AM TELLING THE FUCKING TRUTH......what "success rate" has to do with this ?? :/
The ONLY one thing CRA's whole fucking structure lies on, is YOU "BEING" the fucking PERSON.
Same for IRS in USA....
You "DESTROY" that "presumption", and they have NOTHING........absolutely NONE A FUCKING thing.
So you will tell them the TRUTH, I am the SOLE ADMINISTRATOR of that PERSON, and it's NOT MY FAULT, and I want to use the person's SURETY to administrate that PUBLIC fucking debt.
They just can't DEAL with the truth, they can only deal with LIES.
And that is why Scott said that you have to put
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED/WITHOUT PREJUDICE
at the TOP of your DOCUMENTS.
For Preventing it from interpreting the addressee as "reserving rights"! :)
I think you meant to post this in some other group. It has NOTHING of what we have learned here.
It's like you are almost purposely ignoring ALL that has been handed to you here. :/
So, you are purposely ignoring rule #1 and rule #2.
How many time has Scott, and/or Pete used the words "peaceful" and/or "inhabitant" in ANYTHING you have read here? :/
You seems to have to much "fraudster" in you, Jason Lerato, you've been into it too long, Now, you post another piece of shit like this one you just deleted in this group, and I ban your "fraudster" ass.
LAST WARNING for you.
I warm you, Jason, mixing this method with ANYTHING other than what has been taugh by Scott, and/or possibly Pete, WILL very llikely end you up as SURETY for JASON LERATO. I say this for your own good. I wish you luck, I hope you are not butthurt.
Smiles. Thanks. No it's good. I meant no offense. I've had to relearn lots cause of what dean Clifford taught me over the years. I can take correction from you guys. I trust you all. I appreciate what I've learnt so far
Stop blaming Dean Clifford about your bullshit.......fuck off with that shit, the buck stops here, shut up and read and learn.....The next fucktard who blame Dean Clifford in here for the bullshit he pulls out of his ass, I FUCKING BAN THE FUCKER
Dean CLIFFORD is paying his fucking BILLS, as we speak...and he will PAY them all.....
BE A FUCKING "MAN", fuck do I hate you ?
BE the "MAN"!
Try this self-improvement method! It's an ancient Quebecois Form of meditation:
First make sure you have a glass of crappy red wine, and some REALLY raunchy cigarettes. When you are drunk and coughing, that's when you start to become a REAL man.
Next, close you eyes and take long, deep, breaths...
...Feel the manliness build.
...as you breathe, you will feel the urge to emit the battle-cry of the Manly Quebecois!
"....HELLOS?"
Getting all that "Freedumb" crap in your head under control and dismissing it as crap everytime it pops up is needed to get the "Truth" instilled. I'm sure many here know of "My Private audio" with Angela Stark and the platform she has for the "Guru's" to preach. That is where I first heard of "Peaceful inhabitant." Releasing all that shit from these Guru's takes great effort. Read and absorb, sleep and arise. I went through this days on end for weeks. BURNT OUT FROM TRUTH. So many will not want to give up all the shit they have learned for that would admit a waste of time. The ones who will, do fine.