Pete Daoust

May 01, 2014 12:54 AM
A 4-2 vote !! :-\ I wonder when Murickans will have enough of it :-(


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T?lis B?auns

May 01, 2014 12:56 AM
Police don't necessarily need a warrant to search a vehicle, but can do it based on REASONABLE probable cause. "In her dissenting opinion, Justice Debra McCloskey Todd rightly noted the ruling �heedlessly contravenes over 225 years of unyielding protection against unreasonable search and seizure which our people have enjoyed as their birthright.� www.pacourts.us/assets/opinions/Supreme/out/J-5-2013oajc%20-%201017924602181959.pdf?cb=1


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CJ ML

May 01, 2014 3:38 AM
Sorry, not for hire.


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David Johansen

May 01, 2014 5:10 AM
if the cop could smell it, it wasnt hidden. "is that weed i smell? yes..." = dumb fuck.


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Stuart Stone

May 01, 2014 11:23 AM
Hang on...do citizens exist??? Let me paraphrase Marc Stevens...citizens pledge their allegiance to the state in exchange for protection...However, the various supreme courts have ruled that the state does not owe a duty of protection to the public. Ergo, if the state cannot/is not obligated to provide protection, then doesn't it follow that there now an invalid contract as one party is not fulfilling its obligations? Consequently, isn't the concept of citizens/citizenship also invalid, thus removing the right to search the vehicle, in much the same way they can't search Santa Claus, the Easter bunny or Jeebus' vehicle? If this is a shitstain pulled from the dictionary of my arse, please forgive me and delete the offending post


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Chris Evan

May 01, 2014 1:32 PM
FFS...how fucking docile can one population be? But then on the other hand....how fucking manipulative can the other be???


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Scott Duncan

May 01, 2014 1:46 PM
You are exactly correct, Stuart Stone. YOU have spotted the one thing every "citizen" hasn't. It is not a shit-stain. It is reality.


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Chris Evan

May 01, 2014 1:48 PM
:-D Nice!!! I saw that before Scott said that!!! 2 more fuckin weeks until I think right!


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Scott Duncan

May 01, 2014 1:49 PM
It shouldn't take that long. These things are self-evident.


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Chris Evan

May 01, 2014 1:50 PM
It was a play on another joke from 2 weeks ago....


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Scott Duncan

May 01, 2014 1:55 PM
That's what you get for focusing on the past. :P


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Mike Lamb

May 01, 2014 4:30 PM
Makes sense since most REGISTER their private property with the DMV/STATE fictions, hence do not have lawful allodial ownership. THEY can pretty much do whatever THEY want with THEIR property, but most don't even know the difference between driving and traveling, let alone the truth of the REGISTRATION CONTRACT.


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Chris Evan

May 01, 2014 4:32 PM
Oh boy....


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Pete Daoust

May 01, 2014 4:35 PM
:-o


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Eamonn O Brien

May 01, 2014 4:36 PM
This old chestnut... Covered numerous times in the group... :p


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Chip Douglas

May 01, 2014 6:37 PM
This ruling applies to a "citizen," but; the Second Amendment applies to a "people".....hmmmm


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Pete Daoust

May 01, 2014 6:38 PM
And what's the LEGAL definition of PEOPLE ?


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Pete Daoust

May 01, 2014 6:39 PM
People The aggregate of the individuals who comprise a state or a nation. In a more restricted sense, as generally used in Constitutional Law, the entire body of those citizens of a state or a nation who are invested with political power for political purposes (the qualified voters).


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Scott Duncan

May 01, 2014 8:19 PM
Listen to mt evil apprentice. He knows of what he speaks. :D


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Pete Daoust

May 02, 2014 12:22 AM
Now, try to find in one of there "club house stuff", the word MAN or WOMAN. So far, the closest thing I have found is. EVERY "HUMAN BEING" HAS THE RIGHT TO THE LIFE, SURETY, INTEGRITY AND LIBERTY OF "HIS" PERSON. :-P


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Pete Daoust

May 02, 2014 12:33 AM
Fuck, that makes me think that I might have the right to be the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR of the person I "happen" to have in my pocket :-D muhahahaha !


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Pete Daoust

May 02, 2014 3:50 AM
Top ten reasons why Rob Ford is taking a leave of absence :-P


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T?lis B?auns

May 02, 2014 11:11 AM
In Canada is this incorrect? "We the People" is not, and never has been, us individually, it is us as a whole, a collective, as represented by a parliament. That is why it is said the parliament is sovereign, the parliament is "We the People", and gains it's authority from the electoral consent of the governed, not by individual consent, or royal decree, or the will of god. We have a "Sovereign", but she doesn't represent any authority or any sovereign power here. In an independant nation, the authority behind government in Canada comes from majority rule, same as in every other democratic system. The monarch has merely been a ceremonial provision since the magna charter and the subsequent creation of parliament. The notion of royal sovereignty was removed with a sword to the kings throat, and given to a parliament of the people. This was where the notion of parliamentary sovereignty was born. Assent from the monarch today is merely a formality, not some sort of nessessary permission or something. The parliament of this sovereign independant nation still holds the sword to her throat, and it is this parliament of the people that holds the sovereignty.


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T?lis B?auns

May 02, 2014 11:17 AM


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Chip Douglas

May 02, 2014 3:36 PM
Brauns' post makes me wonder Scott, based on this section of the Criminal Code...who then is in the DE JURE possession of the sovereign power? Obedience to de facto law 15. No person shall be convicted of an offence in respect of an act or omission in obedience to the laws for the time being made and enforced by persons in de facto possession of the sovereign power in and over the place where the act or omission occurs. http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-5.html#docCont


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