The Tender For Law

Volume 6

Apr 25, 2014 2:26 PM

Mathew Wolfe

OK I've been listening to the cic guys and they talk about going to court as the accommodation party for the defendant to settle the debt and balance the account. They talk about being authorized to enter a GUILTY plea and STAND UNDER the charges if they can inspect the original charging instrument. Then they a4v it. If they don't accept that payment they conditionally accept the fact that there may be a defect in the instrument if they are allowed an opportunity to correct the defect....so on and so forth

I was told by some smart dudes in this group to never accept surety or a charge. Always refuse for cause or void the instrument. Which way is better and why? Or are these just two different ways to skin this cat?

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Mathew Wolfe

The cic guys talk about appearing as the accommodation party for the defendant to settle it's debt. They accept surety and agree to settle the debt on the condition that they be presented with the charging instrument.

Howard Posehn

It all comes down to what you think is right. Can you stand toe to toe in a court, and better yet, why? So many say to go to court but is it really what you want. I thought that way in the beginning but soon found out that court was not for me and that a Notice of Mistake pisses them off more than anything you say or do in court ever could short of a bullet.

Howard Posehn

"Mathew Wolfe OK let's go with that. You've been taken their by force. Now what? A4v or refuse for cause? Are you surety or not?" Gordon Hall will always demand to see a bonafide Claim. Scott Duncan has said over and over, "By what authority do you attach a name derived from a public document to me?" I like, "Which one of you sorry assed butt heads is surety for this name here today?"

Mathew Wolfe

I wouldn't answer their questions and asked if I had a 5th amendment right to remain silent and would anything I sat be used against me. That's when the cuffs went on. They wanted to prove a point to me. Set an example that we only accept debtor slaves in this town.

Mathew Wolfe

So anyway I think what they think justifies my arrest is the refused on the signature line. They take you to jail here if you won't promise to appear. They take you in front of the judge right then, but I never saw a judge. They held me for ransom until my wife paid their ransom. I wasn't a creditor and didn't know any of this shit then so I signed everything under duress so they would let me out of jail. They stole my truck to. It was on private property and they impounded it. So I'm treating this ticket separately from the arrest. How I handle this arrest is still on the table but I need to handle this ticket so my person doesn't lose its permission to drive. It has a cdl and a job and the like.

Howard Posehn

David Merril was one of the main posters with good clubhouse dissection ability and was quite knowledgeable on law. He's over somewhere else with Michael Joseph(?) now. My road, after many bumps, led here. I'm so happy!

Pete Daoust

Fuck, I received this email :D

How are you today, I am waiting for you to provide your name address, to enable us transfer your US$2.000.000.00 to you

you will pay $115 to enable lawyer sign your files Mrs. Email: ideal68511@yahoo.co.jp

Steve Lemieux

Being a creditor in commerce requires discipline, a TON OF IT. You need to know this shit inside and out, enough to know - ONLY ASK QUESTIONS and NEVER ANSWER A QUESTION from ANYONE in the public jurisdiction. Why is it that "gurus" such as Gordon Hall, Tim Turner and Dean Clifford all ended up in jail? They failed the test at SOME level and became the trustees; SURETY was pinned to them by way of something they said or an action they did - PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Let's remember these guys are attempting to AWAKEN the public and have HUGE targets on their backs; THERE IS NO room for error if you decide to wear those shoes. You can AFV or administrate ANY process but if you ACT like a debtor, you HAVE NO CHANCE in ANY success. The public has attacked Brandon Adams many times, unsuccessfully, he's as solid as they get; that's why he's NOT in jail and STILL continues to teach - same goes for Winston Shrout. These 2 guys are the ONLY "teachers" I've come across who have stood the "test", besides maybe Scott, who appears to keep a low profile in terms of "teaching". I don't call what Menard does "teaching". Success in ANY administrative process is not in the paperwork, it is in the intent, conviction, understanding and comunication, that's why the NOM is FUCKING USELESS unless you truly understand it and what it does in regards to the legal trust. Do you think Scott Duncan or Brandon Adams need the NOM filed to get the point accross in some fucking court case they might happen to be dragged into? I don't fucking think so!

Peace

Pete Daoust

Since I am NOT the disciplined type of guy, can I ask Steeve Contributing Beneficiary, Being a creditor in commerce requires discipline, a TON OF IT......can you name me ONE of that ton of disciplines I have to acquire ? Please... :(

Pete Daoust

who's truth are we speaking of? : The only one that exist ! :/ , not mine, not yours, but THE truth.....the REALITY, which sometimes, I don't like, and sometimes I like......

Some people's lies, I'd steer away from...but if it's the truth....no matter who says it, it's still the truth ? ...no ? :/

Anibal Jose Baez

Pete, if not acting completely under a private trust, the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR is the other most reasonable position to assume.

If all it's surety, and accounting, as the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR: we can't be surety, we have PROOF of who is surety, we know were the surety is, we know what to give in consideration to settle the accounting, we know how to give instructions via notices to administrate all this.

Would they come out, and "show us the chains"? :D

I really want to see what I'm getting in response for my first administration stuff. :D