The Tender For Law

Volume 6

Apr 22, 2014 4:07 PM

Chris Evan

Scott Duncan, a few of us have been hearing back from some of these persons sending inchoate accounting instruments stating that these are not commercial debts, but consumer debts and as such are not governed by the LAW. They are saying that the COMMERCIAL laws don't apply....only consumer laws apply.

What the hell are they talking about?

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Scott Duncan

It's a trick statement. They do it all the time.

Remember that dipshit Derek Moran asking the crown what authority they had? The answer was "There's a memorandum of understanding". Derek BOUGHT it! It NEVER occurred to him to ask what that has to do with him!

CONSUMER "LAW" is PART OF COMMERCIAL LAW!

Chris Evan

(a) every provision contained in or made with respect to any obligation which purports to give the obligee a right to require payments in gold or a particular kind of coin or currency, or in an amount in money of the United States measured thereby, is declared to be against public policy; and no such provision shall be contained in or made with respect to any obligation hereafter incurred. Every obligation, heretofore or hereafter incurred, whether or not any such provision is contained therein or made with respect thereto, shall be discharged upon payment, dollar for dollar, in any coin or currency which at time of payment is legal tender for public and private debts. Any such provision contained in any law authorizing obligations to be issued by or under authority of the United States, is herby repealed, but the repeal of any such provision shall not invalidate any other provision or authority contained in such law.

Pete Daoust

Ok, so now you have a PUBLIC debt in your hand, you have to decide if you want to buy back that debt, or not......I think your choice was NOT.

So you TELL THEM......sorry, as the sole authorized admin for that person, you've sent a PUBLIC DEBT to, I choose to NOT buy it back.

So please follow these simple step by step INSTRUCTIONS. (That's what administrator do, instruct :D )

So CHRIS is the drawer. Bank of Canada is the DRAWEE PLMP is the BENEFICIARY.

So as the SOLE authorized administrator for the person, I have completed that BILL OF EXCHANGE you've supplied with that public debt, for PLMP to present it to the DRAWEE, which is BLABLABLA.....

It is YOUR obligation to PRESENT that completed instrument to the PAYMENT, if you do not, it will automatically relief CHRIS and BANK OF CANADA from that PUBLIC DEBT

Have fun

AUTHORIZED BY: The Sole Authorized Admin.

Chris Evan

"So to summarize the operation of this Bill, the City of Peabody is the Beneficiary, The Bank of the State is the Drawee and the person named CHRISTOPHER E. SCHULTE, bearing the registration number 492xxxxx, located at 300 xxxx Street, Peabody, MA 01960 is the Drawer."

The back of the BoE said "Payable on Demand at the Treasury Department"

T?lis B?auns

Bank of Canada has a different status due to Prime Minister McKenzie King in 1938 nationalising the thing. http://prudentpress.com/finance/history-bank-of-canada/ The effects of King�s decision would last all the way until 1974, when the Trudeau government made the decision to halt the borrowing of money from the Bank of Canada, and instead, choosing to borrow from the private banks at COMPOUNDED interest.

Chris Evan

Here is what I am working on: (still a draft)

You have received two completed Bills of Exchange for this Account (March 26, 2014 and April 16, 2014), each with an instruction letter. It seems as though neither were credited to the Account.

There has been no Notice of Dishonor, nor Notice that the Bills had a defect. If there was a Notice of Dishonor or if there is a defect in the Instruments please send Notice so the matter(s) can be addressed. [Exhibit A, attached, is a copy of the instructions for the last Bill that was completed and sent back.]

You have sent a DEMAND FOR PAYMENT and based on my experience with PMLP; a SHUT OFF NOTICE will follow this. I wish to remain honorable and help settle this matter.

First, payment has been presented and accepted. I have received two signed Receipts indicating acceptance. You, Glenn Trueira, are now DEMANDING more payment and I am not sure why. Would you please tell me why you are making these demands?

With integrity and sincerity,

By: __________________________ Sole Authorized Administrator and Beneficiary of CHRISTOPHER E. SCHULTE birth registration #: 492xxxxx

Without Recourse, All rights reserved

Pete Daoust

Be advise that if I need to ADMINISTRATE this matter over and over and over, because you are INCOMPETENT, and/or in bad faith, and/or have already spent that money before I made a decision if I wanted to buy the debt or not, I will have no other choice than to CHARGE you.

:D

Sue Rakestraw

I do not want to buy back the Verizon public debt this month. As administrator for SUE RAKESTRAW, I will complete their attached Bill of Exchange along with an instruction sheet and send via Registered Mail. I will review Pete's video again prior to mailing. :)

Pete Daoust

some 15 months ago, SURETY was explained by Scott Duncan in here ( I fucked it up a bit but... ) I had a $20 bill, a check and the birth certificate on my desk....and it turned out that these three thing was exactly the same thing.

So by GIVING them a certified copy of that birth certificate, I give them LOTS OF CONSIDERATION :D

Chris Evan

"As the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE) has been deposited into the COURT [In the custody of Justice Wailan Low, ONTARIO SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE: Court File Number CV-11-430464]"

Scott Duncan, is this permanently deposited there? Has this Justice Low been appointed trustee in all matters?

CJ ML

MESSEM TRUST owns A giant lien & proof of claim against A PERSON, MESSEM HOLDING CORP. administrates the MESSEM TRUST and has appointed CONTINUING MANDAMUS INC. to deal with any affairs of these parties... FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuing_Mandamus

Kirsten Carlstrom

I'm sorry to ask this question...I'm obviously requiring to be spoon fed..... On my BoE's I've stamped on them "Department of Treasury" instead of �Bank of Canada�. So I screwed up?? I should have stamped �US Federal Reserve�? The functions of the Department of Treasury are: Producing all currency, coinage and postage stamps of the U.S.; Collecting taxes, duties and money paid to and due to the U.S.:

PAYING ALL BILLS OF THE US

Managing the federal finances; Managing government accounts and the United States public debt; Supervising national banks and thrift institutions; Advising on domestic and international financial, monetary, economic, trade and tax policy (fiscal policy being the sum of these, and the ultimate responsibility of Congress); Enforcing federal finance and tax laws; Investigating and prosecuting tax evaders; Publishing statistical reports.

Pete Daoust

A year ago, my duty ( I had only one) was to make these CSIS agents go CRAZY in here, today, one of my duties ( I have more than one now) is to make sure ALL agents goes nuts :D

Muhahahahahahahaha!!!!! :D

(But if only I could make one of these agents, quit his job and start PRODUCING something with his life, that would be a great thrill !! :( )

Chris Evan

Here it is Pete

April 22, 2014

TO: Glenn Trueira c/o PMLP 201 Warren St. Ext. Peabody, MA 01960

Re: Account number 968219 Meter number 34520 Bills of Exchange

Registered Mail #:

ALL RIGHTS RESERVED / WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Glenn Trueira,

You have received two completed Bills of Exchange each with an instruction letter for this Account (March 26, 2014 and April 16, 2014) evidenced by the two signed Domestic Return Receipts indicating acceptance. It seems as though neither were credited to the Account.

You, Glenn Trueira, are now DEMANDING more payment but I have clearly said, I do not wish to buy your Public Debt. There has been no Notice of Dishonor, nor Notice that the Bills had a defect.

It is YOUR obligation to PRESENT that completed instrument to the Drawee, the Federal Reserve Bank. If you do not, it will be a dishonor and relieve CHRIS and The Federal Reserve Bank from that PUBLIC DEBT.

As I have asserted before, the SURETY for CHRISTOPHER E SCHULTE is the State of MASSACHUSETTS, enclosed is the valuable consideration (Birth Certificate) with their signature on it.

With integrity and sincerity,

By: __________________________ Sole Authorized Administrator and Beneficiary of CHRISTOPHER E. SCHULTE birth registration #: 492xxxxx

Without Recourse, All rights reserved

TAKE NOTICE: If I need to ADMINISTRATE this matter again because you are acting in bad faith and/or have already spent that money before I made a decision if I wanted to buy the debt or not, I will have no other choice than to CHARGE you. IF YOU CUT THE SERVICE, I WILL HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE THAN TO ADMINISTRATE THIS MATTER AS AN ILLEGAL ACT ON YOUR PART BECAUSE THE DEBT HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADMINISTRATED.

Pete Daoust

Just got out of Tim Horton, the lady was throwing bagels/donuts in the garbage, I said BANKRUPCY ?, she laugh and said, we have to get rid of them after 8 hours :O I said HO, DISCHARGE ? she said what? :-D true story guys :-D

T?lis B?auns

is Deaner receiving his mail or updates on his facebook status? The sQuatloos' speculate he's racking up time and a half then after two years, he can sue for lack of due process and not ensuring a speedy trial.

Andrew D'Aragon

Pre-sentence time is counted at double time served. Provincial court can dick him around for 2 years less a day before they have to release him or convict him. At which point he will have served the equivalent of a 12 year sentence. After factoring under a federal sentence of over 2 years he is eligible for parole after a third of his time served. 2 years @ double time = 4 years = 1/3 of 12 years.

Chris Evan

By sending a Certified Copy of the BC to a Public Servant via Registered Mail, does this appoint them trustee of the discharge? Is this what is meant by "run its DUE COURSE"? Until they send back the BC Registered Mail, they are the HOLDER for that PERSON in THAT matter?

Anibal Jose Baez

I have a DRAFT of an affidavit of affirmation. Chop it up, kids!

COMMONWEALTH OF PUERTO RICO ) ss MUNICIPALITY OF XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

AFFIDAVIT of AFFIRMATION

Comes now, I and/or ME and/or MYSELF, to tell the truth to the facts related herein states that I have firsthand knowledge of the facts stated herein and believes these facts to be true to the best of my knowledge:

1. I am ME. 2. I am not YOU. 3. My name is not of anyone's business. 4. I am not a LEGAL NAME. 5. I am NOT a NATURAL PERSON, and/or a PERSON of any kind. 7. I waive the right to be recognized as a PERSON, and/or a LEGAL PERSON, and/or a NATUTAL PERSON, under the law. 6. I DO NOT OWN any PERSON/S. 8. I am the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, BIRTH CERTIFICATE and/or SURETY BOND/PUBLIC RECORD # 152-XXXXXXXXXXXXX, with REGISTRATION DATE of XX APRIL XXXX. 9. I am NOT XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. 10. I am NOT SURETY for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. 11. PROOF of who is SURETY for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, surety being the GOBIERNO DE PUERTO RICO/GOVERNMENT OF PUERTO RICO, is provided in exhibit A, a BIRTH CERTIFICATE and/or SURETY BOND/PUBLIC RECORD # 152-XXXXXXXXXXXXXX with REGISTRATION DATE of XX APRIL XXXX. 12. I, as a MAN, am not lawfully entitled to the BENEFITS of a BIRTH CERTIFICATE. 13. I am not an OFFICER, and/or a government AGENT, and/or a TRUSTEE, and/or a Government EMPLOYEE of the CROWN and/or THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and/or ESTADO LIBRE ASOCIADO DE PUERTO RICO and/or GOBIERNO DE PUERTO RICO . 14. I am NOT a SLAVE to ANYONE. 15. I DO NOT CONSENT to either slavery, and/or involuntary servitude. 16. All the administration done for the legal name XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX is subject to FEES. 17. I do not consent to be governed, other than by ME, AND/OR MY own free will. 16. I do not recognize and/or authorize ANY authority outside of ME. 18. There is no authority to attach any LEGAL NAME, and/or ANY information, derived from a public document to ME. 19. I will NOT buy back any public debt that comes under the legal name XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, and or account # XXX-XX-XXXX.. 20. As the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, BIRTH CERTIFICATE and/or SURETY BOND/PUBLIC RECORD # 152-XXXXXXXXXXXXX, with REGISTRATION DATE of XX APRIL XXXX, I will only ADMINISTRATE these public debts, and send them back to its beneficiary, so they can be presented to THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK and/or to which ever pertinent party, for complete discharge.

Further, I sayeth naught.

_____________________________ ____________________________ Signature Date

Commonwealth of Puerto Rico Municipality of XXXXXXX Subscribed and sworn to (or affirmed) before me on this ___day of ___________, 2014 I and/or ME and /or MYSELF, proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence to be the MAN who appeared before me. __________________________________ (Seal) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Notary Public

Pete Daoust

Affirmation

A solemn and formal declaration of the truth of a statement, such as an Affidavit or the actual or prospective testimony of a witness or a party that takes the place of an oath. An affirmation is also used when a person cannot take an oath because of religious convictions.

:D

Pete Daoust

An affidavit or affirmation is a statement of facts made by a person under oath. Generally, this is the means by which the parties or their witnesses submit evidence to the court during the hearing of an interlocutory application (or other kinds of application).

A Catholic or a Christian should make affidavits. People of other religious beliefs or no religious belief should make affirmations.

:P

http://www.hkclic.org/en/topics/civilCase/commencement_of_trial/q2.shtml

Pete Daoust

Here is the one I have made :D HAHAHAHA!!!!

AFFIDAVIT

Je, soussign�, Pierre Daoust, num�ro d�enregistrement d�une naissance vivante 11XXXX, r�sidant au 12XXX rue , Mirabel, �tat du Qu�bec, d�clare solennellement ce qui suit :

1. Je suis le seul administrateur autoris� pour la Personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, NAS : 26X-XXX-XXX, et num�ro d�inscription : 119XXXXXXXXXX

2. Je suis le seul B�n�ficiaire pour la Personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, NAS :26X-XXX-XXX, et num�ro d�inscription: 119XXXXXXXXXX.

3. Je suis le seul � prendre des d�cisions pour toutes affaires commerciales concernant la Personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, NAS:26X-XXX-XXX, et num�ro d�inscription : 119XXXXXXXXXX

4. Je suis un Homme vivant, tel que le prouve l�enregistrement d�une naissance vivante no. 11XXXX.

5. Je suis n� le 19 F�vrier 1966, tel que le prouve l�enregistrement d�une naissance vivante no. 11XXXX.

6. La personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, ayant le no. d�inscription 119XXXXXXXXXX, est n�e le 6 Mars 1966, tel que le prouve l�acte de naissance no. D12XXXXX-XX

7. Je ne suis PAS cette personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, NAS : 26X-XXX-XXX, et num�ro d�inscription: 119XXXXXXXXXX, mais J�AI cette personne, donc, je ne suis pas la S�RET� de PIERRE DAOUST, NAS : 26X-XXX-XXX, et num�ro d�inscription: 119XXXXXXXXXX.

8. Tous les faits mentionn�s � la pr�sente, sont vrais.

En foi de quoi, j'ai sign�, � Mirabel. ce 24 F�vrier 2013.

_____________________________ Seul Administrateur Autoris� pour : PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX

T�moin :_______________________

T�moin :_______________________

:D

Pete Daoust

Oh, :-o While searching my notes, I felt on this :D (Nov. 13th 2013)

Seriously, you people just make shit up as you go.

I'll dumb it down. Stop making shit-stains and pulling crap out of your ass.

JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN was created by 2 "Citizens" and ratified by the government, and GIVEN to ME.

I DO NOT CONSENT, AND WAIVE THE BENEFIT, but it is still "mine" because I am the only VALUE to this constructive trust.

I AM NOT A PERSON, I HAVE A PERSON, but it's NOT MINE. I cannot claim it outside the jurisdiction.

I CREATE A PERSON named ROGUESUPPORT INC, who ACTS AS TRUSTEE and SECURES the name for MY benefit, in a TRUST.

"trustee in the common law territory" or any such bullshit. It really is that simple.

STOP MAKING SHIT UP!

Pete Daoust

ratify v. to confirm and adopt the act of another even though it was not approved beforehand. Example: An employee for Holsinger's Hardware orders carpentry equipment from Phillips Screws and Nails although the employee was not authorized to buy anything. The president of Holsinger's ratifies the deal when Phillips delivers the order. A person under the legal age who makes a contract, may ratify the contract when he/she reaches majority (usually 18) or may refuse to honor it without obligation

Pete Daoust

NOW, Chris Evan, you need to write to them, IF YOU CUT THAT SERVICE, YOU WILL BE COMMITING AN ILLEGAL ACT, AND I WILL HAVE TO ADMINISTRATE THIS MATTER AT A HIGHER SCALE , that's what I wrote to them, and they stopped :/

Chris Evan

But I see this consideration thing now:

(b) �Consideration� means any consideration sufficient to support a simple contract. The drawer or maker of an instrument has a defense if the instrument is issued without consideration. If an instrument is issued for a promise of performance, the issuer has a defense to the extent performance of the promise is due and the promise has not been performed. If an instrument is issued for value as stated in subsection (a), the instrument is also issued for consideration.

Pete Daoust

The fucking SECURITY/SURETY of the person is the fact that you can MONETIZE that person, and use that SURETY/SECURITY to DISCHARGE public debts, sent to THAT person.......That is WHAT you are doing by COMPLETING these bill of exchange....

You are telling them, HEY, go see the US FEDERAL RESERVE, where is the SECURITY/SURETY, and they will use it to DISCHARGE that public debt

WHY ??, because I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT :D

http://www.oas.org/en/iachr/mandate/Basics/declaration.asp

Pete Daoust

If they REFUSE this to you, the Man, they are commiting an ILLEGAL ACT :P

Article I. Every human being has the right to life, liberty and the security of his person

Fuck, if this is not clear enough, that you have the right to the "security" of YOUR person, I don't know what could be :D

:D

Pete Daoust

Chris Evan, listen to me.....

You picked up a public debt in CHRIS'S mailbox

You decide you don't want to buy it

So you can't pay for it, because you need to BUY before you PAY....

You have completed this Bill of Exchange, for them to present that COMPLETED BoE, where the SURETY/SECURITY is, at US FED RESERVE.

So the SURETY of CHRIS can take care of that debt

So they have the OBLIGATION to present that completed BoE there...

You have the RIGHT to do this, they need to know all that, and if they think that you don't have the right to do this, ask them to tell you this IN WRITING....

And tell them to stop these stupid threats, it's childish and ILLEGAL.

:P

Pete Daoust

Ok, so I'll repeat, Chris, LISTEN TO ME :D

listen to me.....

You picked up a public debt in CHRIS'S mailbox

You decide you don't want to buy it

So you can't pay for it, because you need to BUY before you PAY....

You have completed this Bill of Exchange, for them to present that COMPLETED BoE, where the SURETY/SECURITY is, at US FED RESERVE.

So the SURETY of CHRIS can take care of that debt

So they have the OBLIGATION to present that completed BoE there...

You have the RIGHT to do this, they need to know all that, and if they think that you don't have the right to do this, ask them to tell you this IN WRITING....

And tell them to stop these stupid threats, it's childish and ILLEGAL.

Pete Daoust

Ok, so that's the REASON, when I call the Government and ask WHAT/WHERE is the surety/security of "the" person, they are fucking TELLING ME TO GO SEE A LAWYER, because they CAN NOT GIVE FUCKING LEGAL ADVICE...

Because we LIVE in a legal world, right ? :/

Chris Evan

The term security is usually applied to a deposit, lien, or mortgage voluntarily given by a debtor to a creditor to guarantee payment of a debt. Security furnishes the creditor with a resource to be sold or possessed in case of the debtor's failure to meet his or her financial obligation. In addition, a person who becomes a surety for another is sometimes referred to as a "security."

Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Here we go... I think I found it: BREACH OF CONTRACT, INTIMIDATION AND DISCRIMINATION AGAINST TRADE UNIONISTS VIOLATION DE CONTRAT, INTIMIDATION ET DISTINCTION INJUSTE ENVERS LES SYNDIQU�S Criminal breach of contract 422. (1) Every one who wilfully breaks a contract, knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that the probable consequences of doing so, whether alone or in combination with others, will be (a) to endanger human life, (b) to cause serious bodily injury, (c) to expose valuable property, real or personal, to destruction or serious injury, (d) to deprive the inhabitants of a city or place, or part thereof, wholly or to a great extent, of their supply of light, power, gas or water, or

Beverly Berta Braakschmack

The only reference to "inhabitants": incola (in-k<l-l<l), n. [Latin "an inhabitant"] Roman law. A foreign resident without full civil rights; the inhabitant of a foreign colony. -The term is used particularly for provincial residents who were not Roman citizens.

Pete Daoust

In French.....

Violation de contrat, intimidation et distinction injuste envers les syndiqu�s Note marginale :Violation criminelle de contrat

422. (1) Quiconque, volontairement, viole un contrat, sachant ou ayant des motifs raisonnables de croire que les cons�quences probables de son acte, qu�il agisse seul ou en liaison avec d�autres, seront, selon le cas :

a) de mettre en danger la vie humaine;

b) d�infliger des blessures corporelles graves;

c) d�exposer des biens de valeur, meubles ou immeubles, � une ruine totale ou � de graves dommages;

d) de priver les HABITANTS d�une ville ou localit�, ou de toute partie d�une ville ou localit�, totalement ou dans une grande mesure, de leur approvisionnement de lumi�re, d��nergie, de gaz ou d�eau;

:p

Isaiah Whitney

I have an interesting experience to share. I keep buying back the utility debt because I don't want it shut off. However, I was just experimenting and I sent a remittance in for double the amount due (They let you fill in these BoE's) and surprisingly I recieve a refund check for exactly half the remittance. Are they playing ball with me because I inadvertently allowed them to continue to twin the revenue stream?

Isaiah Whitney

I did both. Then I receive a refund check with no explanation for exactly half the remittance amount. I ended up getting my money back essentially. I don't know if the SURETY paid double or what exactly they did but it was a shock.

Isaiah Whitney

Either that or I got the extra the SURETY paid. I don't know. Some freedumbs have said in the past that profiting off the discharge by the SURETY is a no no but that's from freedumbs. As far as I'm concerned its a refund of my money. I'm going to keep at this.

Isaiah Whitney

I don't know. I send the remittance back to the BENEFICIARY and let them handle it. I did put the code on the back of my Social Security card on the remittance. Its rumored the letter prefix of that code indicates a federal reserve bank. I can't confirm any of that. I do know Scott was asked about the code and he basically indicated its not something we should be concerned with. Unnecessary clubhouse rules? I don't know.

Sue Rakestraw

Brad, my understanding is you use the Fed Reserve as Surety. The utility company can deposit it in their bank as all banks in the US use the Fed Reserve System. Once deposited at "any" bank, it clears through one of the 12 Fed Reserve districts banks. Anyone jump in here and correct if my understanding is wrong.

Isaiah Whitney

I didn't even do that. I have started putting "PAY TO THE ORDER OF" on them but the front I don't mess with anything other than that and the amount. I will probably get a stamp like the one Pete uses that says "ENDORSEMENT ON REVERSE".

Isaiah Whitney

I almost didn't bring this up because I don't know what happened and there's no proof. We all know they go to great pains to avoid giving any solid proof to us. That's why I made my remittance to the State of Illinois for taxes out for a couple bucks extra hoping to force a refund and some sort of proof.

Isaiah Whitney

You are very welcome. I wish I had some concrete evidence of what's going on here. I was just screwing around when I sent this and didn't properly ACCOUNT for it. I am keeping meticulous records going forward and I will share all results with the group.

Brad Tullar

What is interesting is the fact that you put "Pay to the order of" because once the bill of exchange is completed it is a check and I may be wrong but I think all checks must say "pay to the order of" and/or "pay to bearer. Anyway I will be doing this soon and will share the results.

Isaiah Whitney

I am not sure if I did that with this one, but I studied the basics of negotiable instruments and that seems to be a necessity so I've done that with my PERSONS state income tax remittance and the property tax bill I am currently administrating. We shall see.

Anibal Jose Baez

I am not sure, but I do see "pay to the order of" in all money orders, and on drafts. It's in the example of negotiable instruments , as well. So I made my stamp, just in case. But I think in the US, is part of the information need to have in a complete draft. Can Scott confirm this?

Chris Evan

hahahah....yes Max!!! We have a RIGHT to the SECURITY of the PERSON. That is held in an ACCOUNT at a FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Of course its payable! Pay to the order of. Hmmm....but this BoE that got the Electric shut off says "Please make check payable to: PMLP or Peabody Municipal Lght Plant" Perhaps I should have crossed off "Please make check".

Pete Daoust

On one of these BoE, I have completed, I did this:

Besisdes City of Montreal, I wrote BENEFICIARY Besides PIERRE DAOUST, I wrote DRAWER And Besides my Bank of Canada rubber stamp, I wrote DRAWEE

Never heard of that one so far, it was a traffic ticket :/

Anibal Jose Baez

Here are the rules, and importance for identifying the parties to a draft/negotiable instrument in the USA: <<A draft, or a cheque has three original parties: the drawer, the drawee, and the payee. The names given to the parties to these instruments are important because the liabilities of the parties varies depending on the parties role.>>

Anibal Jose Baez

There are 2 kinds of negotiable instruments: promises to pay, and orders to pay.

A PROMISSORY NOTE: It's a written promise made and signed by the maker TO PAY a sum of certain money to the holder of an instrument.

CERTIFICATE OF DEPOSITS: a written promise to pay by a BANK.

DRAFTS or Bill of Exchange: A bill of exchange in the USA it's a called a DRAFT, and it MUST be and ORDER TO PAY a sum of money to a second party. Here you have 3 parties: a drawer, a drawee, and a payee.

Will Bed

Chris Evan i remember WB owing money to his dad as a kid, and dad would ask WB to flip his paycheck over, sign it, and dad could deposit the check, and the money from the employer's account would go to WB's dad's account.

So basically, in the case of a Bill of exchange, if WB owes money to, say, the city of Quebec, WB can flip the check over, sign it, and the money from the SURETY will go to the city's account...

Anibal Jose Baez

And if Pete's administration process fails, I have my own "Accepted for Stupid, Returned for Retard, Gay Tax Duty, Exempt for Moron" method. Hell, maybe I'll teach you Adam Thomas' "Rock-o-Crack" method too!

I have grown Dean's Wolverine beard, got the "mountain man from Montana" outfit, and have the middle-eastern terrorist Bonacci look, so I'm ready for some seminars!

Scott Duncan

Deleting your shit stain just makes me look like I'm talking to myself, Jason Moreland. You want to stain the forum with bullshit? LIVE WITH IT WHEN I SHOW YOU YOU'RE AN IDIOT. You can serve as a warning to others!

...but YOU just delete it, removing the context. Your cowardice comes at my expense.