Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 4:10 PM
It's a trick statement. They do it all the time. Remember that dipshit Derek Moran asking the crown what authority they had? The answer was "There's a memorandum of understanding". Derek BOUGHT it! It NEVER occurred to him to ask what that has to do with him! CONSUMER "LAW" is PART OF COMMERCIAL LAW!


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 4:11 PM
That's what makes your trip to the variety store for smokes, an act of COMMERCE. CONSUMERS are just a COMMERCIAL CLASSIFICATION.


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 4:12 PM
That's the difference between RETAIL and WHOLESALE.


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 4:13 PM
mhmmm...so this is just a trick, got it!!!


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 4:16 PM
It's ALWAYS lies and tricks. ALWAYS.


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 4:16 PM
When you run into that shit, just assume it's a lie.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 4:20 PM
WHO said that ?, Chris Evan :/


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 4:22 PM
A few different people. and it SEEMS that the Peabody Municipal Light Plant is headed that way as well....


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 4:25 PM
Why in the fuck they don't do ANYTHING with me ? Is it because they never had to deal with this as of now ?, :/


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 6:05 PM
This PMLP has sent the Person CHRIS a DEMAND FOR PAYMENT after 2 BoEs have been administrated. How can they DEMAND something that is illegal...


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:06 PM
They are DEMANDING money of account, it's NOT illegal :P


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 6:07 PM
What?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:14 PM
And you are administrating the debt via the surety of CHRIS, it's NOT illegal too... :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:14 PM
You say: How can they DEMAND something that is illegal... What makes you think it's ILLEGAL ?


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 6:15 PM
Public Law 73-10, Executive order 6102....


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:16 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about :(


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 6:19 PM
(a) every provision contained in or made with respect to any obligation which purports to give the obligee a right to require payments in gold or a particular kind of coin or currency, or in an amount in money of the United States measured thereby, is declared to be against public policy; and no such provision shall be contained in or made with respect to any obligation hereafter incurred. Every obligation, heretofore or hereafter incurred, whether or not any such provision is contained therein or made with respect thereto, shall be discharged upon payment, dollar for dollar, in any coin or currency which at time of payment is legal tender for public and private debts. Any such provision contained in any law authorizing obligations to be issued by or under authority of the United States, is herby repealed, but the repeal of any such provision shall not invalidate any other provision or authority contained in such law.


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Sue Rakestraw

Apr 22, 2014 6:19 PM
Enlighten us, Pete.


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 6:20 PM
I think this is a PERSON v. MAN thing....


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Apr 22, 2014 6:20 PM
Anyway, they are demanding a payment be made, but it has already been affected.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:21 PM
And what's MONEY OF ACCOUNT ? :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:22 PM
No Chris, no PAYMENT has been made... :P


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:24 PM
You've picked up a DEBT in CHRIS's mailbox .....RIGHT ?


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Apr 22, 2014 6:26 PM
I'll be back in 5 ;)


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:36 PM
Ok, so now you have a PUBLIC debt in your hand, you have to decide if you want to buy back that debt, or not......I think your choice was NOT. So you TELL THEM......sorry, as the sole authorized admin for that person, you've sent a PUBLIC DEBT to, I choose to NOT buy it back. So please follow these simple step by step INSTRUCTIONS. (That's what administrator do, instruct :D ) So CHRIS is the drawer. Bank of Canada is the DRAWEE PLMP is the BENEFICIARY. So as the SOLE authorized administrator for the person, I have completed that BILL OF EXCHANGE you've supplied with that public debt, for PLMP to present it to the DRAWEE, which is BLABLABLA..... It is YOUR obligation to PRESENT that completed instrument to the PAYMENT, if you do not, it will automatically relief CHRIS and BANK OF CANADA from that PUBLIC DEBT Have fun AUTHORIZED BY: The Sole Authorized Admin.


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Apr 22, 2014 6:38 PM
If they IGNORE, or just keep asking for PAYMENT, you just have to stick to what you've done.....and tell them you will have to start BILLING for your time....


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Sue Rakestraw

Apr 22, 2014 6:38 PM
Chris, perhaps the key is WHO is the United States equivalent to Bank of Canada?


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 6:40 PM
Federal Federal Reserve


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:42 PM
I just wonder HOW can it be the Federal Reserve ? , is this place not a PRIVATE place ? :/


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Apr 22, 2014 6:43 PM
The SURETY of CHRIS should be in a PUBLIC place, I would think


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 6:44 PM
Oh....I guess I don't know what the BoC is in relation to Canada then....here is what I wrote:


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:44 PM
That PUBLIC debt, comes from the PUBLIC, and was sent to a PUBLIC person....


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 6:44 PM
"So to summarize the operation of this Bill, the City of Peabody is the Beneficiary, The Bank of the State is the Drawee and the person named CHRISTOPHER E. SCHULTE, bearing the registration number 492xxxxx, located at 300 xxxx Street, Peabody, MA 01960 is the Drawer." The back of the BoE said "Payable on Demand at the Treasury Department"


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:45 PM
Where/who is The Bank of the State ?


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 6:46 PM
I don't know.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:46 PM
And you should give this Peabody thing some "consideration" :)


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:47 PM
You have to FIND OUT !!!! :/


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T?lis B?auns

Apr 22, 2014 6:47 PM
Bank of Canada has a different status due to Prime Minister McKenzie King in 1938 nationalising the thing. http://prudentpress.com/finance/history-bank-of-canada/ The effects of King�s decision would last all the way until 1974, when the Trudeau government made the decision to halt the borrowing of money from the Bank of Canada, and instead, choosing to borrow from the private banks at COMPOUNDED interest.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 6:51 PM
Oh fuck, I will have to shower :D HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!


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Sue Rakestraw

Apr 22, 2014 6:51 PM
See, this is the confusion for us Pete. Fed Reserve System is NOT for us to use and we can make no demands of it.


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 6:51 PM
IT'S THE US FEDERAL RESERVE, YOU DIPSHITS!


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 6:52 PM
Look for WHO ISSUES THE CA$H


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 6:54 PM
So then, that would be a defect...which I asked to be notified of....and wasn't


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Sue Rakestraw

Apr 22, 2014 6:55 PM
Scott, so in Pete's example, the DRAWEE is the Federal Reserve?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:00 PM
WHAT'S MONEY OF ACCOUNT PLEASE ? :)


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:00 PM
Chris Evan and Sue Rakestraw ? :)


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:05 PM
Hellos ?? :(


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:08 PM
money of account n. A monetary unit in which accounts are kept and that may or may not correspond to actual current denominations.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:09 PM
ACCOUNTING money :D


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 7:11 PM
It's debt that can only buy OTHER debt.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:22 PM
A cookie for Sco......oh wait :/ ...


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:24 PM
So they are INVITING you with AGGRESSIVITY, to BUY back that debt with a type of money that has been SPECIFICALLY made for that purpose, Chris Evan :D


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T?lis B?auns

Apr 22, 2014 7:24 PM
http://ca.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idCABREA3L1FC20140422


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:27 PM
And you and Sue Rakestraw, forces me to PRESUME that you didn't know what was Money of ACCOUNT :(


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 7:27 PM
Here is what I am working on: (still a draft) You have received two completed Bills of Exchange for this Account (March 26, 2014 and April 16, 2014), each with an instruction letter. It seems as though neither were credited to the Account. There has been no Notice of Dishonor, nor Notice that the Bills had a defect. If there was a Notice of Dishonor or if there is a defect in the Instruments please send Notice so the matter(s) can be addressed. [Exhibit A, attached, is a copy of the instructions for the last Bill that was completed and sent back.] You have sent a DEMAND FOR PAYMENT and based on my experience with PMLP; a SHUT OFF NOTICE will follow this. I wish to remain honorable and help settle this matter. First, payment has been presented and accepted. I have received two signed Receipts indicating acceptance. You, Glenn Trueira, are now DEMANDING more payment and I am not sure why. Would you please tell me why you are making these demands? With integrity and sincerity, By: __________________________ Sole Authorized Administrator and Beneficiary of CHRISTOPHER E. SCHULTE birth registration #: 492xxxxx Without Recourse, All rights reserved


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:29 PM
First, payment has been presented and accepted. ??? :/


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:31 PM
Why do you use that word ? ....


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 7:31 PM
What word would you use?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:33 PM
You sent back a COMPLETED bill of EXCHANGE....not a fucking payment !!!!


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 7:33 PM
AWESOME!!!! corrected!!!


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 7:33 PM
*sniff* They grow up so quickly. :(


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:33 PM
:D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:35 PM
You, Glenn Trueira, are now DEMANDING more payment but I have clearly said, I DON'T WANT TO BUY YOUR FUCKING DEBT :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:36 PM
I AM NOT IN THE "BUYER" mood for now :D


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 7:37 PM
MONEY OF ACCOUNT CAN ONLY BUY OTHER DEBT.


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 7:37 PM
MONEY OF ACCOUNT *IS* DEBT


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 7:38 PM
THEREFORE, MONEY OF ACCOUNT CAN ONLY BUY MORE MONEY OF ACCOUNT.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:38 PM
Be advise that if I need to ADMINISTRATE this matter over and over and over, because you are INCOMPETENT, and/or in bad faith, and/or have already spent that money before I made a decision if I wanted to buy the debt or not, I will have no other choice than to CHARGE you. :D


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Apr 22, 2014 7:38 PM
^^^I have already told him that


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 7:39 PM
You can't fix stupid, Chris.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:42 PM
You can BILL stupid though :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:43 PM
And Chris Evan, don't FORGET to give them "consideration" !!


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:45 PM
Do you know what I am talking about Chris ?


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 7:47 PM
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Valuable+consideration


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:47 PM
Chris Evan ?? :/


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:48 PM
CCCHHHRRIIIISSSSSS.... !!!!!!.....hellosss !!!


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Sue Rakestraw

Apr 22, 2014 7:50 PM
I do not want to buy back the Verizon public debt this month. As administrator for SUE RAKESTRAW, I will complete their attached Bill of Exchange along with an instruction sheet and send via Registered Mail. I will review Pete's video again prior to mailing. :)


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:51 PM
Oh yes, that video is awesome :D


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 7:52 PM
FFS....I had a phone call


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:52 PM
But WHAT could you "GIVE" them as CONSIDERATION ? :)


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:53 PM
Hellossss !!!


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 7:53 PM
a signature


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:53 PM
NO


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 7:53 PM
:-/


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Sue Rakestraw

Apr 22, 2014 7:54 PM
Give them a Promise.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:55 PM
The fucking BIRTH CERTIFICATE :P


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Eamonn O Brien

Apr 22, 2014 7:55 PM
A discount :p


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Sue Rakestraw

Apr 22, 2014 7:55 PM
Shit!!!!!!!!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:55 PM
HEELLLOOOOOSSSS!!! :D


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Sue Rakestraw

Apr 22, 2014 7:56 PM
Ha! Promise to give them a discount :p


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Tommy Atherton

Apr 22, 2014 7:56 PM
I do not know what you are talking about Pete Daoust, with the consideration part of the B o E . I have missed that. Care to aid me once again?


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 7:56 PM
*sniff* ...so very quickly. :(


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:56 PM
That thing has a SIGNATURE on it, and that signature = SURETY It's pretty VALUABLE, as a "consideration" :P


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 7:57 PM
A copy?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:57 PM
A certified COPY


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 7:57 PM
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/billofexchange.asp


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:57 PM
I have a HUGE stack of them :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:58 PM
I have them EVERYWHERE :D


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 7:58 PM
OH HEY, me too. Liened the shit out of them too! :D


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 7:58 PM
Certified copies from Vital Statistics or from a Notary?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:58 PM
What ? :/


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 7:59 PM
What kind of certified copies?


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 7:59 PM
He's `Murickan.


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 7:59 PM
Here, we have certified copies made at a notary or have a certified copy of a vital record....


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Eamonn O Brien

Apr 22, 2014 7:59 PM
The creator can only certify it yes?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 7:59 PM
Holy fuck, I only know one kind, a certified kind :P


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Sue Rakestraw

Apr 22, 2014 7:59 PM
Chris, you order the long form certified.


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 7:59 PM
Who the fuck certified it?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:00 PM
The NOTARY made the stack I have... :/


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:00 PM
Sue, I have those....just asking questions....


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:00 PM
Thanks....was it so fucking hard to say that? :-P


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Apr 22, 2014 8:03 PM
That, in effect, is the same process as depositing the certified copy of the B/C with the courts when charges are being brought against the PERSON, I saw Michael A Rivera did that. thanks Pete Daoust!


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Apr 22, 2014 8:03 PM
And don't forget to add, on your communication to them: IF YOU CUT THE SERVICE, I WILL HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE THAN TO ADMINISTRATE THIS MATTER AS AN ILLEGAL ACT FROM YOUR PART


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:03 PM
YOU CAN'T CUT THE SERVICE, BECAUSE THE DEBT HAS BEEN CORRECTLY ADMINISTRATED......FUCK OFF WITH YOUR FUCKING THREATS :p


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:04 PM
Oppsss, sorry for the all caps shit :/


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:07 PM
some 15 months ago, SURETY was explained by Scott Duncan in here ( I fucked it up a bit but... ) I had a $20 bill, a check and the birth certificate on my desk....and it turned out that these three thing was exactly the same thing. So by GIVING them a certified copy of that birth certificate, I give them LOTS OF CONSIDERATION :D


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Gail Marie

Apr 22, 2014 8:08 PM
Would the corporate seal suffice on a copy of the birth certificate or it must be a notary?


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:08 PM
"As the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE) has been deposited into the COURT [In the custody of Justice Wailan Low, ONTARIO SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE: Court File Number CV-11-430464]" Scott Duncan, is this permanently deposited there? Has this Justice Low been appointed trustee in all matters?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:09 PM
Notary, Gail Marie, that would be my call :)


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:09 PM
But Pete, I can't make a certified copy of a $20 bill and expect that to be consideration


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:09 PM
nor a check


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:10 PM
You don't need to, idiot :P


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Gail Marie

Apr 22, 2014 8:10 PM
I recently looked into getting a certified copy of the BC....one notary was charging $75.00 for certified copies....$50 dollars for notarizing affidavits etc


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Eamonn O Brien

Apr 22, 2014 8:11 PM
Chris I asked that question about a yr ago... "Does Walmart keep the coupons when you use them?" was the response from the big fla...


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Tommy Atherton

Apr 22, 2014 8:11 PM
Come on Pete Daoust administrate that shit too! Affidavit that I put that thing in a copier and pushed the green button and took a copy out and here it is for you!


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:12 PM
Fuck...did you call Walmart and ask them?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:12 PM
I have made 30 of the BC, 30 of the ACT of BIRTH, 30 of the Life Birth shit thing, and 30 of the first affidavit I had made (I throw that one in the garbage :D ) for a floppy $125.00 :D


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Eamonn O Brien

Apr 22, 2014 8:13 PM
No, I asked the question you asked up there and Scott replied with that as an answer... I would imagine they do keep the coupons... I think Beverly was in that conversation at the time also...


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Gail Marie

Apr 22, 2014 8:13 PM
its a cash cow business now and they are milking it...liars pfft


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:14 PM
I just found out that "they dont we send them to be credited to walmarts account"


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T?lis B?auns

Apr 22, 2014 8:14 PM
Tommy Atherton, techno lies http://www.dkriesel.com/en/blog/2013/0802_xerox-workcentres_are_switching_written_numbers_when_scanning


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Gail Marie

Apr 22, 2014 8:14 PM
The coupons walmart receives if Im not mistaken they will send them back to the originating companies for credit to their account


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:14 PM
I DON'T FUCKING CARE what they do with it......they can wipe their ass with it, if they want :P


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Cara Small

Apr 22, 2014 8:14 PM
Does that mean you have a certified (notarized) hard copy that you print copies of when needed?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:15 PM
Oh man... :(


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:15 PM
Yes Gail Marie...for the vendors accounting. But if Walmart issues a coupon, its for their internal accounting....I get this now


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Gail Marie

Apr 22, 2014 8:16 PM
Pete it's being brought up for understanding ...not that anyone really cares what Walmart processes are specifically


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Eamonn O Brien

Apr 22, 2014 8:17 PM
There ya go...


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Gail Marie

Apr 22, 2014 8:18 PM
Are copies of a notarized certified copy all we need? ie get one cc of the BC and just take copies of it to use?


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Eamonn O Brien

Apr 22, 2014 8:19 PM
Irish BC's show up with a large red "INVALID" when copied... To prevent fraud as it's a valuable instrument :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:19 PM
You go to the Notary, you tell him/her, I will give you $100 if you make 40 copies of this, and you put your fucking seal on each of them :D


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Sue Rakestraw

Apr 22, 2014 8:19 PM
Hey, my BC from the State says, "FOR MEDICAL AND HEALTH USE ONLY".....wth?


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Eamonn O Brien

Apr 22, 2014 8:19 PM
They cost �10 from the registrar and �5 for more copies if requested


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:20 PM
Don't work harder work smarter: http://chicagowatermark.com/?gclid=CMT17rz19L0CFUoV7AodxkAAlw


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:21 PM
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html


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Cara Small

Apr 22, 2014 8:21 PM
Are three witnesses signatures not the same as a Notary signature?


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:21 PM
"It is illegal to alter or reproduce this document in any manner"


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:22 PM
So you guys want to know what they do with the BC ? ....I know what they do with it :P


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:22 PM
It was illegal in the first place...


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:22 PM
they deposit the MF..


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Eamonn O Brien

Apr 22, 2014 8:22 PM
Send it back to the bank to credit their account? :D


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:23 PM
"MF"?? mother fucker?


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:23 PM
// ding ding ding


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:23 PM
They keep it, as consideration received :D


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:26 PM
ok....So, I have corrected the notice. I now tell them that there is a valuable consideration enclosed...a SURETY BOND. anything else?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:27 PM
Share it again, please !


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:27 PM
MESSEM TRUST owns A giant lien & proof of claim against A PERSON, MESSEM HOLDING CORP. administrates the MESSEM TRUST and has appointed CONTINUING MANDAMUS INC. to deal with any affairs of these parties... FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuing_Mandamus


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:30 PM
That looks so complicated, Jason Moreland :D


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:31 PM
I'm not in commerce... EVER


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:31 PM
How could you be ? :/


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:32 PM
How in the fuck, a MAN can be IN COMMERCE ?


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:32 PM
You should see the look on the clerks face when CONTINUING MANDAMUS INC. is filing liens...


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:32 PM
Who me? I'm not a You


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:33 PM
the look on the clerks face ? :/ they all have the SAME look to me !


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:33 PM
lol


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 8:37 PM
If I were to strip you down, Pierre, and then get a SHARPIE and write on you so you are a BILL OF EXCHANGE, and I walked you to the BANK OF CANADA, and "Deposited" you... THEN a man can be in commerce :D


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 8:37 PM
EVERYTHING is possible, LEGALLY :D


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Eamonn O Brien

Apr 22, 2014 8:38 PM
Make a video of that Pete! :p


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:38 PM
They have to ACCEPT the DEPOSIT.... I'm not sure if the tellers could handle that one...


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Gail Marie

Apr 22, 2014 8:38 PM
haha get that on video :P


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Eamonn O Brien

Apr 22, 2014 8:38 PM
Smokin away cursing that he can't get the words out... Priceless...


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:39 PM
Maybe JACKASS will make another movie & you guys can do it....


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 8:40 PM
If they don't accept, I'll leave their naked french bill of echange there, accepted or not! I'm not feeding their useless bill of exchange! Why would I want to BUY THAT DEBT? :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:40 PM
There is 272 hits on that youtube :D


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:41 PM
This is a perfect example of a TIPS Auction: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/instit/marketables/tips/tips.htm


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:43 PM
Seriously, I'm trapped down here with 315 million morons and its not getting any better... 1/2 of which refuse to work...


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:44 PM
I admit I would look AWESOME turned into a BILL OF EXCHANGE.... :D I can see all the rubber stamps on my body.... WOW, MUCH SEXY, SO VALUABLE, :D


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Gail Marie

Apr 22, 2014 8:45 PM
haha...potential marketing technique for a seminar you put on Pete Daoust


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:46 PM
You sure it's not 350 millions ?, Jason :/


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 8:47 PM
DUE COURSE. It matters not if the BANK OF CANADA actually ACCEPTS the bill of exchange in question, it has run its DUE COURSE as far as you are concerned.


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Apr 22, 2014 8:47 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention, there is a bunch of very pissed off new fucktards administrator in Quebec City, really mad fucktards, they want me to go there to teach them one thing or two ! :/


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 8:48 PM
They should have paid with a naked Quebecois. Fucking amateurs.


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Apr 22, 2014 8:49 PM
I'm sorry to ask this question...I'm obviously requiring to be spoon fed..... On my BoE's I've stamped on them "Department of Treasury" instead of �Bank of Canada�. So I screwed up?? I should have stamped �US Federal Reserve�? The functions of the Department of Treasury are: Producing all currency, coinage and postage stamps of the U.S.; Collecting taxes, duties and money paid to and due to the U.S.: PAYING ALL BILLS OF THE US Managing the federal finances; Managing government accounts and the United States public debt; Supervising national banks and thrift institutions; Advising on domestic and international financial, monetary, economic, trade and tax policy (fiscal policy being the sum of these, and the ultimate responsibility of Congress); Enforcing federal finance and tax laws; Investigating and prosecuting tax evaders; Publishing statistical reports.


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 8:49 PM
Pete Daoust's time is VALUABLE. Are they going to PAY him for his teachings?


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 8:49 PM
I really think that sort of thing should be enforced.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:50 PM
Pete will GIVE everything for FREE :P


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 8:51 PM
The GOVT enforces for their time....


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 8:51 PM
*sniff*


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:51 PM
I will bring my OWN MAMWICH....


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 8:51 PM
...they grow up so fast. :(


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Apr 22, 2014 8:52 PM
Seriously. That naild it. You REALLY DO understand. :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:52 PM
Well, administrate close to $5 millions in one shot and bring that global public debt down, is a heck of a CONSIDERATION for Pete, and his kids :P


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 8:53 PM
"DUE COURSE. It matters not if the BANK OF CANADA actually ACCEPTS the bill of exchange in question, it has run its DUE COURSE as far as you are concerned." I am not understanding this


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 8:53 PM
Let it sink in.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 8:56 PM
Bank of Canada's job is NOT to ACCEPT the Bill, it is to DISCHARGE the debt on that bill... :P Bank of Canada is like a HUGE waste yard :D


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Apr 22, 2014 8:59 PM
I am pretty sure that this is where Adam would pipe in with something like: Acceptance is in the mail The Acceptance is the receipt we got back from the Post Office...?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 9:00 PM
DISCHARGE !!! :D http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CpXy4CxNr5I/0.jpg


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Gail Marie

Apr 22, 2014 9:00 PM
should we be sending the original boe there and copies to say the utility company?


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Apr 22, 2014 9:01 PM
I returned a completed one back to the payee. Haven't heard anymore since. 3 months ago now...


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 9:02 PM
You send the COMPLETED BoE to the beneficiary, with CLEAR and ACCURATE "INSTRUCTIONS" Gail Marie


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Gail Marie

Apr 22, 2014 9:02 PM
Bobis Youruncle


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Gail Marie

Apr 22, 2014 9:03 PM
ok thank you captain for that clarification


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Apr 22, 2014 9:03 PM
^^ Pretty much :p


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 9:03 PM
INSTRUCTIONS :P


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Apr 22, 2014 9:05 PM
Not demands, or maybes, or I would like to, or please would you, or my grandma has a small clitoris, or I have a sm....nah, forget about that one, ....


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 9:08 PM
An "authoritative statement" :D


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Apr 22, 2014 9:10 PM
A fucking SERMON :D HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! :D


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Apr 22, 2014 9:12 PM
Eli Weakley good thread, check it out.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 9:17 PM
Jason, please stop writing in NASA style :D


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Apr 22, 2014 9:23 PM
Good Thread Pete Daoust..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me3WuLYHilo


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Apr 22, 2014 9:27 PM
A year ago, my duty ( I had only one) was to make these CSIS agents go CRAZY in here, today, one of my duties ( I have more than one now) is to make sure ALL agents goes nuts :D Muhahahahahahahaha!!!!! :D (But if only I could make one of these agents, quit his job and start PRODUCING something with his life, that would be a great thrill !! :( )


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Apr 22, 2014 9:28 PM
That's Chris's thread, Jason :P


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Apr 22, 2014 9:36 PM
Here it is Pete April 22, 2014 TO: Glenn Trueira c/o PMLP 201 Warren St. Ext. Peabody, MA 01960 Re: Account number 968219 Meter number 34520 Bills of Exchange Registered Mail #: ALL RIGHTS RESERVED / WITHOUT PREJUDICE Glenn Trueira, You have received two completed Bills of Exchange each with an instruction letter for this Account (March 26, 2014 and April 16, 2014) evidenced by the two signed Domestic Return Receipts indicating acceptance. It seems as though neither were credited to the Account. You, Glenn Trueira, are now DEMANDING more payment but I have clearly said, I do not wish to buy your Public Debt. There has been no Notice of Dishonor, nor Notice that the Bills had a defect. It is YOUR obligation to PRESENT that completed instrument to the Drawee, the Federal Reserve Bank. If you do not, it will be a dishonor and relieve CHRIS and The Federal Reserve Bank from that PUBLIC DEBT. As I have asserted before, the SURETY for CHRISTOPHER E SCHULTE is the State of MASSACHUSETTS, enclosed is the valuable consideration (Birth Certificate) with their signature on it. With integrity and sincerity, By: __________________________ Sole Authorized Administrator and Beneficiary of CHRISTOPHER E. SCHULTE birth registration #: 492xxxxx Without Recourse, All rights reserved TAKE NOTICE: If I need to ADMINISTRATE this matter again because you are acting in bad faith and/or have already spent that money before I made a decision if I wanted to buy the debt or not, I will have no other choice than to CHARGE you. IF YOU CUT THE SERVICE, I WILL HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE THAN TO ADMINISTRATE THIS MATTER AS AN ILLEGAL ACT ON YOUR PART BECAUSE THE DEBT HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADMINISTRATED.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 9:39 PM
the "US" Federal Reserve Bank ....just in case it creates confusion ;)


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 9:39 PM
These fucktard are some professional kind of fucktards......do not underestimate them :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 9:41 PM
As a VALUABLE consideration, I OFFER you CHRIS surety bond, (birth certificate) :P


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Apr 22, 2014 9:41 PM
If I am offering a surety bond, shouldn't it be on bond paper?


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Apr 22, 2014 9:42 PM
I am offering you a CERTIFIED COPY of.... :P


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 9:53 PM
If its not fun, you are doing it wrong....I am not having fun....honestly!


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Apr 22, 2014 9:54 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 9:56 PM
If it's HARD, you are doing it wrong......


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 9:57 PM
Ok....well it has been hard too!


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 9:57 PM
I think the word "fun" was on one of Dean Clifford saying....no ? :/


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 9:59 PM
Dean: If its not fun, you are doing it wrong. Scott: If its hard, you are doing it wrong. Is that correct ?? ^^^^


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Chris Evan

Apr 22, 2014 9:59 PM
Yes...I think that is correct!


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 10:00 PM
Jail is NOT FUN!. He's doing it wrong! :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 10:00 PM
Dean's Aylmer video: YOU GOTTA HAVE FUN DOING THIS SHIT....


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 10:02 PM
That's what happen when you assist to lots of seminars Chris, you misplace words from one to another :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 10:08 PM
Holy shit Jason, aren't you in the "MOVEMENT" ? :D


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CJ ML

Apr 22, 2014 10:09 PM
What "MOVEMENT" ?


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 10:10 PM
I just had a BOWEL MOVEMENT about half an hour ago. Is that what you're talking about?


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Scott Duncan

Apr 22, 2014 10:11 PM
How do you even know I'm even TAKING a dump, that you think you are qualified to discuss it?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 10:12 PM
Oh yeah, I LOVE these type of discussion, I have to.... :P


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 10:14 PM
You can take the guy out of the token, but you will never take out the token from the guy.........something like that !! :/


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 10:21 PM
The person named Dean Clifford seems to be it, but Dean, the Man, accept SURETY for the person.....so there is that ! :/


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Pete Daoust

Apr 22, 2014 10:48 PM
Just got out of Tim Horton, the lady was throwing bagels/donuts in the garbage, I said BANKRUPCY ?, she laugh and said, we have to get rid of them after 8 hours :O I said HO, DISCHARGE ? she said what? :-D true story guys :-D


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Eamonn O Brien

Apr 23, 2014 12:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V7zdcSBRjQ Just clearin' that up...


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 12:45 AM
:-D


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T?lis B?auns

Apr 23, 2014 12:45 AM
is Deaner receiving his mail or updates on his facebook status? The sQuatloos' speculate he's racking up time and a half then after two years, he can sue for lack of due process and not ensuring a speedy trial.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 12:47 AM
Oh yes, with bananas.... :-P


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CJ ML

Apr 23, 2014 1:49 AM
Is he on the potassium only diet?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 1:52 AM
racking up time, this is somewhat, a fucked up idea... :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 1:52 AM
Working for TIMEX would be a better idea :D


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CJ ML

Apr 23, 2014 1:54 AM
It's all Accounting... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeuRAWSJGFY


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 1:55 AM
:D Lets "rack up time" folks :D http://1.bp.blogspot.com/---YEGzSDH3w/Tv1ifQ4Ld-I/AAAAAAAAQ0k/2J7hSE50_Ag/s1600/IMG_6065.JPG


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CJ ML

Apr 23, 2014 1:58 AM
Probably has one of these in HYPER-DRIVE....


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T?lis B?auns

Apr 23, 2014 2:01 AM
Rack up some timex butthurt //www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFtHjV4c4uw


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Andrew D'Aragon

Apr 23, 2014 2:04 AM
Pre-sentence time is counted at double time served. Provincial court can dick him around for 2 years less a day before they have to release him or convict him. At which point he will have served the equivalent of a 12 year sentence. After factoring under a federal sentence of over 2 years he is eligible for parole after a third of his time served. 2 years @ double time = 4 years = 1/3 of 12 years.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 2:10 AM
sentence n. the punishment given to a person convicted of a crime.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 2:11 AM
So Dean, is DEFINITELY a PERSON ? :/


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 2:16 AM
Do you have CONTACTS with Dean, Andrew Ofthe RoyalHouse Aragon ?


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Andrew D'Aragon

Apr 23, 2014 2:25 AM
Nope


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Andrew D'Aragon

Apr 23, 2014 2:27 AM
Of course I should qualify my original factum, they are not playing by their own rules, so what I wrote could reasonable in the past be seen as worst case scenario. Now? all bets are off!


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CJ ML

Apr 23, 2014 2:28 AM
So the detainment is NOT custodial in nature?


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Anibal Jose Baez

Apr 23, 2014 2:44 AM
"Fortress of Remand." It sounds innocent, and shit. Like a place filled with bananas, fresh fruit and hammocks...


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 2:45 AM
And PERSONS :/


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 2:46 AM
IN-surety


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Anibal Jose Baez

Apr 23, 2014 2:48 AM
Dean, the Man, is acting as INSURANCE for his PERSON. Acting as SURETY. I cannot get over it. Why? :/


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 2:51 AM
There is NO Dean the MAN, there is a PERSON named DEAN CLIFFORD in that cage...


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 2:51 AM
A fucking slave :-(


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Anibal Jose Baez

Apr 23, 2014 2:54 AM
I'm pretty sure it's the man inside that cage, Pete. That's reality. :(


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 2:58 AM
No man can end up in a LEGAL CAGE :-\


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 3:00 AM
Instead of being a lonely PERSON in that LEGAL cage, he could have been in one of AQUILAE's ROYAL cage, and be abused by weaponized women, like Ceit Butler :-D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Apr 23, 2014 8:28 AM
And/or carp food.


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Isaiah Whitney

Apr 23, 2014 8:29 AM
Yeah that chilled any possible enthusiasm I may have developed for VOLUNTEERING.


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Ceit Butler

Apr 23, 2014 4:37 PM
Which part, the proposed abuse from women...or being carp food? :D


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Isaiah Whitney

Apr 23, 2014 4:43 PM
Being carp food. That's not something I'd like to experience!


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Chris Evan

Apr 23, 2014 4:56 PM
By sending a Certified Copy of the BC to a Public Servant via Registered Mail, does this appoint them trustee of the discharge? Is this what is meant by "run its DUE COURSE"? Until they send back the BC Registered Mail, they are the HOLDER for that PERSON in THAT matter?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 5:10 PM
NNNOOOOO !!!! :(


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Chris Evan

Apr 23, 2014 5:11 PM
ok....what does this DUE COURSE mean then?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 5:15 PM
Momentary :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 5:15 PM
For the moment :P


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 5:16 PM
I told you yesterday, by sending the BC, you give them CONSIDERATION......what the fuck is wrong with you ? :D


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Chris Evan

Apr 23, 2014 5:18 PM
Well...quite a bit, but that is not what this forum is for. :-D


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Chip Douglas

Apr 23, 2014 6:58 PM
Hasn't Scott mentioned about sending an Affidavit of Affirmation 'affirming' to them that you have basically 'received' the BC to begin with, first?


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Chris Evan

Apr 23, 2014 7:01 PM
I don't know that we have ever really gotten answers on this Affidavit of Affirmations


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 7:29 PM
And what was the QUESTION, in regards to this Affidavit of Affirmations ? :D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Apr 23, 2014 7:34 PM
I have a DRAFT of an affidavit of affirmation. Chop it up, kids! COMMONWEALTH OF PUERTO RICO ) ss MUNICIPALITY OF XXXXXXXXXXXXXX AFFIDAVIT of AFFIRMATION Comes now, I and/or ME and/or MYSELF, to tell the truth to the facts related herein states that I have firsthand knowledge of the facts stated herein and believes these facts to be true to the best of my knowledge: 1. I am ME. 2. I am not YOU. 3. My name is not of anyone's business. 4. I am not a LEGAL NAME. 5. I am NOT a NATURAL PERSON, and/or a PERSON of any kind. 7. I waive the right to be recognized as a PERSON, and/or a LEGAL PERSON, and/or a NATUTAL PERSON, under the law. 6. I DO NOT OWN any PERSON/S. 8. I am the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, BIRTH CERTIFICATE and/or SURETY BOND/PUBLIC RECORD # 152-XXXXXXXXXXXXX, with REGISTRATION DATE of XX APRIL XXXX. 9. I am NOT XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. 10. I am NOT SURETY for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. 11. PROOF of who is SURETY for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, surety being the GOBIERNO DE PUERTO RICO/GOVERNMENT OF PUERTO RICO, is provided in exhibit A, a BIRTH CERTIFICATE and/or SURETY BOND/PUBLIC RECORD # 152-XXXXXXXXXXXXXX with REGISTRATION DATE of XX APRIL XXXX. 12. I, as a MAN, am not lawfully entitled to the BENEFITS of a BIRTH CERTIFICATE. 13. I am not an OFFICER, and/or a government AGENT, and/or a TRUSTEE, and/or a Government EMPLOYEE of the CROWN and/or THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and/or ESTADO LIBRE ASOCIADO DE PUERTO RICO and/or GOBIERNO DE PUERTO RICO . 14. I am NOT a SLAVE to ANYONE. 15. I DO NOT CONSENT to either slavery, and/or involuntary servitude. 16. All the administration done for the legal name XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX is subject to FEES. 17. I do not consent to be governed, other than by ME, AND/OR MY own free will. 16. I do not recognize and/or authorize ANY authority outside of ME. 18. There is no authority to attach any LEGAL NAME, and/or ANY information, derived from a public document to ME. 19. I will NOT buy back any public debt that comes under the legal name XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, and or account # XXX-XX-XXXX.. 20. As the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, BIRTH CERTIFICATE and/or SURETY BOND/PUBLIC RECORD # 152-XXXXXXXXXXXXX, with REGISTRATION DATE of XX APRIL XXXX, I will only ADMINISTRATE these public debts, and send them back to its beneficiary, so they can be presented to THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK and/or to which ever pertinent party, for complete discharge. Further, I sayeth naught. _____________________________ ____________________________ Signature Date Commonwealth of Puerto Rico Municipality of XXXXXXX Subscribed and sworn to (or affirmed) before me on this ___day of ___________, 2014 I and/or ME and /or MYSELF, proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence to be the MAN who appeared before me. __________________________________ (Seal) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Notary Public


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 7:34 PM
Maybe it was a typo, maybe he wanted to say: AFFIDAVIT or AFFIRMATION :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 7:36 PM
Affirmation A solemn and formal declaration of the truth of a statement, such as an Affidavit or the actual or prospective testimony of a witness or a party that takes the place of an oath. An affirmation is also used when a person cannot take an oath because of religious convictions. :D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Apr 23, 2014 7:40 PM
http://www.ehow.com/how_6825195_affirm-affidavit.html


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 7:42 PM
An affidavit or affirmation is a statement of facts made by a person under oath. Generally, this is the means by which the parties or their witnesses submit evidence to the court during the hearing of an interlocutory application (or other kinds of application). A Catholic or a Christian should make affidavits. People of other religious beliefs or no religious belief should make affirmations. :P http://www.hkclic.org/en/topics/civilCase/commencement_of_trial/q2.shtml


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 7:44 PM
But there's so many stuff available online in regards to this stuff !! :/


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Anibal Jose Baez

Apr 23, 2014 7:45 PM
Basically is an affidavit of the truth sworn, and signed under seal of a notary. That's what I get.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Apr 23, 2014 7:48 PM
Oh, and ADMINISTRATORS love to tell the truth. :D Why is no one liking my affidavit? :/ Is about the truth, I tell no lies. :)


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Chris Evan

Apr 23, 2014 7:50 PM
Affidavit of Affirmation seems redundant....Like an Affidavit of Truth or an Affidavit of Facts. Yeah...no kidding...its an Affidavit. I said last time we discussed this I said that maybe it was a typo....


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 7:51 PM
Here is the one I have made :D HAHAHAHA!!!! AFFIDAVIT Je, soussign�, Pierre Daoust, num�ro d�enregistrement d�une naissance vivante 11XXXX, r�sidant au 12XXX rue , Mirabel, �tat du Qu�bec, d�clare solennellement ce qui suit : 1. Je suis le seul administrateur autoris� pour la Personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, NAS : 26X-XXX-XXX, et num�ro d�inscription : 119XXXXXXXXXX 2. Je suis le seul B�n�ficiaire pour la Personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, NAS :26X-XXX-XXX, et num�ro d�inscription: 119XXXXXXXXXX. 3. Je suis le seul � prendre des d�cisions pour toutes affaires commerciales concernant la Personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, NAS:26X-XXX-XXX, et num�ro d�inscription : 119XXXXXXXXXX 4. Je suis un Homme vivant, tel que le prouve l�enregistrement d�une naissance vivante no. 11XXXX. 5. Je suis n� le 19 F�vrier 1966, tel que le prouve l�enregistrement d�une naissance vivante no. 11XXXX. 6. La personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, ayant le no. d�inscription 119XXXXXXXXXX, est n�e le 6 Mars 1966, tel que le prouve l�acte de naissance no. D12XXXXX-XX 7. Je ne suis PAS cette personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, NAS : 26X-XXX-XXX, et num�ro d�inscription: 119XXXXXXXXXX, mais J�AI cette personne, donc, je ne suis pas la S�RET� de PIERRE DAOUST, NAS : 26X-XXX-XXX, et num�ro d�inscription: 119XXXXXXXXXX. 8. Tous les faits mentionn�s � la pr�sente, sont vrais. En foi de quoi, j'ai sign�, � Mirabel. ce 24 F�vrier 2013. _____________________________ Seul Administrateur Autoris� pour : PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX T�moin :_______________________ T�moin :_______________________ :D


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Chris Evan

Apr 23, 2014 7:52 PM
:-) 24 Fevrier 2013? You sent this then?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 7:53 PM
A few, yes :/


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Chris Evan

Apr 23, 2014 7:53 PM
A few? to who?


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 7:54 PM
It was NOT exactly like this one.....this is a template, I adjusted a few things.....


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 7:55 PM
Hydro-Quebec, and QRA.....


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Apr 23, 2014 7:55 PM
The surety was not as clear, at that time......so I haven't really mentionned it......


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Anibal Jose Baez

Apr 23, 2014 7:56 PM
I like mine better. :P


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Apr 23, 2014 7:56 PM
:D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 7:57 PM
And I was NOT the Sole Authorized Administrator at that time, I don't remember what I was, I think I was the MASTER of PIERRE DAOUST, or something like that :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 8:01 PM
Oh, :-o While searching my notes, I felt on this :D (Nov. 13th 2013) Seriously, you people just make shit up as you go. I'll dumb it down. Stop making shit-stains and pulling crap out of your ass. JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN was created by 2 "Citizens" and ratified by the government, and GIVEN to ME. I DO NOT CONSENT, AND WAIVE THE BENEFIT, but it is still "mine" because I am the only VALUE to this constructive trust. I AM NOT A PERSON, I HAVE A PERSON, but it's NOT MINE. I cannot claim it outside the jurisdiction. I CREATE A PERSON named ROGUESUPPORT INC, who ACTS AS TRUSTEE and SECURES the name for MY benefit, in a TRUST. "trustee in the common law territory" or any such bullshit. It really is that simple. STOP MAKING SHIT UP!


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Pete Daoust

Apr 23, 2014 8:03 PM
ratify v. to confirm and adopt the act of another even though it was not approved beforehand. Example: An employee for Holsinger's Hardware orders carpentry equipment from Phillips Screws and Nails although the employee was not authorized to buy anything. The president of Holsinger's ratifies the deal when Phillips delivers the order. A person under the legal age who makes a contract, may ratify the contract when he/she reaches majority (usually 18) or may refuse to honor it without obligation


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T?lis B?auns

Apr 24, 2014 2:04 AM
Scottisms, gold nuggets and Pete's First edition warrant consideration as valuable entries. Simudrones attack. ://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/topics/topic_legal.html


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Chris Evan

Apr 25, 2014 8:37 PM
Guess who isn't accepting Bills of Exchange?


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Anibal Jose Baez

Apr 25, 2014 8:37 PM
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Pete Daoust

Apr 25, 2014 8:38 PM
God ? :/


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Chris Evan

Apr 25, 2014 8:38 PM
Peabody Municipal Light Plant


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Apr 25, 2014 8:38 PM
I would send a BoE to God....sure


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Pete Daoust

Apr 25, 2014 8:38 PM
Tell me more !! :)


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Chris Evan

Apr 25, 2014 8:39 PM
CHRIS received a shut off notice today


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Gail Marie

Apr 25, 2014 8:39 PM
poor Pete...wants this action and he is the only one who doesn't get it


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Pete Daoust

Apr 25, 2014 8:39 PM
PIERRE received 4 or 5 of these :/


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Chris Evan

Apr 25, 2014 8:40 PM
I am searching the clubhouse rules looking for the punishment for concealment.... :-D


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CJ ML

Apr 25, 2014 8:40 PM
Per UCC: 800 times the amount billed...


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Apr 25, 2014 8:40 PM
where?


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Apr 25, 2014 8:41 PM
NOW, Chris Evan, you need to write to them, IF YOU CUT THAT SERVICE, YOU WILL BE COMMITING AN ILLEGAL ACT, AND I WILL HAVE TO ADMINISTRATE THIS MATTER AT A HIGHER SCALE , that's what I wrote to them, and they stopped :/


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Apr 25, 2014 8:41 PM
I know....I am looking for their wording


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 8:42 PM
Chris, phone them... BOMBARD WITH QUESTIONS (and record it)


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Apr 25, 2014 8:42 PM
But Chris, WHY you say : "Guess who isn't accepting Bills of Exchange?"


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Apr 25, 2014 8:43 PM
Jason Moreland, please stop that :D


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Apr 25, 2014 8:43 PM
UNLIKE ^^^


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Chris Evan

Apr 25, 2014 8:44 PM
hmmm....maybe its because I didn't refer to UCC 3-104. Maybe these idiots can't figure it out.


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Apr 25, 2014 8:45 PM
Phone � Bombard � Record Chris


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Apr 25, 2014 8:45 PM
Berta WHO did you bombard with questions? CFO?


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Apr 25, 2014 8:46 PM
especially with a notice like that


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Apr 25, 2014 8:46 PM
I think PMLP has a Director. His name is Glenn Trueira. :-D


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 8:46 PM
Call the number on the notice... if they don't "get it" ask for someone who is familiar with negotiable instruments and the like


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 8:47 PM
They are THREATENING YOU... you don't have time for letters... :/


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Apr 25, 2014 8:47 PM
But I see this consideration thing now: (b) �Consideration� means any consideration sufficient to support a simple contract. The drawer or maker of an instrument has a defense if the instrument is issued without consideration. If an instrument is issued for a promise of performance, the issuer has a defense to the extent performance of the promise is due and the promise has not been performed. If an instrument is issued for value as stated in subsection (a), the instrument is also issued for consideration.


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Apr 25, 2014 8:48 PM
Regardless...I doubt these idiots will figure that out.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 8:51 PM
What? And where does it state that it is LEGAL to pay a debt with a debt?


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Apr 25, 2014 8:57 PM
I wish I could help you more Chris, but I am not familiar with your stuff in USA, Where does it says in the USA that you have the right to the security/surety of THE person ?


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Apr 25, 2014 8:57 PM
I have not seen that


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Apr 25, 2014 8:58 PM
Oh :/


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Apr 25, 2014 8:59 PM
there is this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_of_person


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Apr 25, 2014 9:02 PM
Fuck sakes, really? How bout "He who creates a liability must supply the remedy?


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Apr 25, 2014 9:03 PM
:D


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Apr 25, 2014 9:08 PM
The fucking SECURITY/SURETY of the person is the fact that you can MONETIZE that person, and use that SURETY/SECURITY to DISCHARGE public debts, sent to THAT person.......That is WHAT you are doing by COMPLETING these bill of exchange.... You are telling them, HEY, go see the US FEDERAL RESERVE, where is the SECURITY/SURETY, and they will use it to DISCHARGE that public debt WHY ??, because I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT :D http://www.oas.org/en/iachr/mandate/Basics/declaration.asp


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Pete Daoust

Apr 25, 2014 9:11 PM
If they REFUSE this to you, the Man, they are commiting an ILLEGAL ACT :P Article I. Every human being has the right to life, liberty and the security of his person Fuck, if this is not clear enough, that you have the right to the "security" of YOUR person, I don't know what could be :D :D


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Apr 25, 2014 9:12 PM
This article 1, is telling you RIGHT IN YOUR FACE, that you "HAVE" a person :D


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Pete Daoust

Apr 25, 2014 9:12 PM
of his person, of his person, of his person :D


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 9:13 PM
And Chris... WHY IS THERE A SECURITY OF A PERSON? Why?


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Apr 25, 2014 9:14 PM
TO DISCHARGE DEBT :D , and because they are creating debts, and put that stupid person IN collateral, so there has to be a surety/security......and the Man is the fucking CREDITOR of that shit :D


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Chris Evan

Apr 25, 2014 9:15 PM
What is this OAS?


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Apr 25, 2014 9:16 PM
No Men = No Persons = No surety/Security = No debts + No fuckall :P


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Apr 25, 2014 9:16 PM
Cause some dudes took it upon themselves to "handle things" for you... :/


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CJ ML

Apr 25, 2014 9:18 PM
The GOVERNMENT created a LIABILITY when they created the PERSON & pledged future labor & earning capacity as collateral as SURETY?


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Apr 25, 2014 9:19 PM
Something like that Jason Moreland :D


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Apr 25, 2014 9:19 PM
:D


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Apr 25, 2014 9:20 PM
Chris Evan, listen to me..... You picked up a public debt in CHRIS'S mailbox You decide you don't want to buy it So you can't pay for it, because you need to BUY before you PAY.... You have completed this Bill of Exchange, for them to present that COMPLETED BoE, where the SURETY/SECURITY is, at US FED RESERVE. So the SURETY of CHRIS can take care of that debt So they have the OBLIGATION to present that completed BoE there... You have the RIGHT to do this, they need to know all that, and if they think that you don't have the right to do this, ask them to tell you this IN WRITING.... And tell them to stop these stupid threats, it's childish and ILLEGAL. :P


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 9:24 PM
Remember, all "legal" is public... Consideration on a private debt is not the same... But a private claim can be taken into the public (court).


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 9:25 PM
You require a PERSON to get power/water/gas or bank account...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 9:26 PM
Telephone... etc


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Apr 25, 2014 9:26 PM
Do you get it Chris ? :/


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Apr 25, 2014 9:27 PM
:)


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Chris Evan

Apr 25, 2014 9:27 PM
yes I get it. Now...communicating it to these idiots....thats different


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 9:27 PM
But Chris, if I want your Purple Door... I guess I have to PURCHASE it... :D


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Apr 25, 2014 9:27 PM
TELL THEM LIKE IT IS.....no fancy shit, just like it is :)


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 9:29 PM
not tell, QUESTIONS


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Apr 25, 2014 9:30 PM
They are NOT refusing this process Chris Evan, they are TESTING you, .....now you have the ball in your hands, you need to throw them that ball back, filled with crazy glue on it :D :D


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 9:30 PM
Bombard and Questions comes to mind...


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Apr 25, 2014 9:31 PM
FIRMS INSTRUCTIONS comes to MY mind :D


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 9:32 PM
you are flailing because you doubt yourself and your programming keeps tickling you... But its all right there in writing! Question those things...


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Apr 25, 2014 9:32 PM
Who's failing ? :/


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Apr 25, 2014 9:33 PM
Chris... he's confusing himself...


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Laurent Vah

Apr 25, 2014 9:33 PM
i just read the declaration of human rights in Dutch, and where the word security is, it's translated to "onschendbaarheid" wich when translated would mean "immunity or untouchable" :/ confused here ...


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Apr 25, 2014 9:34 PM
Ok, so I'll repeat, Chris, LISTEN TO ME :D listen to me..... You picked up a public debt in CHRIS'S mailbox You decide you don't want to buy it So you can't pay for it, because you need to BUY before you PAY.... You have completed this Bill of Exchange, for them to present that COMPLETED BoE, where the SURETY/SECURITY is, at US FED RESERVE. So the SURETY of CHRIS can take care of that debt So they have the OBLIGATION to present that completed BoE there... You have the RIGHT to do this, they need to know all that, and if they think that you don't have the right to do this, ask them to tell you this IN WRITING.... And tell them to stop these stupid threats, it's childish and ILLEGAL.


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Apr 25, 2014 9:34 PM
Who is flailing?


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Apr 25, 2014 9:34 PM
I am not worried about this.


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Apr 25, 2014 9:35 PM
I was looking for that paint color....I think it is C2 Mulberry!


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Apr 25, 2014 9:35 PM
OH FUCK !!! "IMMUNITY" :-o That is fucking great !!! :D


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Apr 25, 2014 9:36 PM
not as good as untouchable though


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Apr 25, 2014 9:36 PM
We live in a LEGAL world, right ? ....every one is OK with this ?


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Apr 25, 2014 9:37 PM
Are we or not, living in a LEGAL world ?


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Laurent Vah

Apr 25, 2014 9:37 PM
yes we are


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Howard Posehn

Apr 25, 2014 9:38 PM
Yes, and no I'm not OK with it.


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Apr 25, 2014 9:38 PM
I am also NOT ok with it


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 25, 2014 9:38 PM
I don't think anything LIVES in a legal world.


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Apr 25, 2014 9:39 PM
Ok, so that's the REASON, when I call the Government and ask WHAT/WHERE is the surety/security of "the" person, they are fucking TELLING ME TO GO SEE A LAWYER, because they CAN NOT GIVE FUCKING LEGAL ADVICE... Because we LIVE in a legal world, right ? :/


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Apr 25, 2014 9:39 PM
So if it's a LEGAL matter, what do I do ???


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Laurent Vah

Apr 25, 2014 9:40 PM
go to a lawyer?


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CJ ML

Apr 25, 2014 9:40 PM
INCOMING: LIEN.....


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Apr 25, 2014 9:40 PM
I check the LEGAL fucking definition of the word SURETY and SECURITY, right ? Does that makes sense so far ? :/


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Apr 25, 2014 9:41 PM
So type on google, "legal definition surety" and, "legal definition security"


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Chris Evan

Apr 25, 2014 9:41 PM
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surety


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Apr 25, 2014 9:41 PM
The legal world is created by the living... but we get pulled into it because we CLAIM shit. My house, my name, etc.


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Apr 25, 2014 9:41 PM
That will tell you WHAT is the surety/security of the person, and I think we already knows where it is.....


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Chris Evan

Apr 25, 2014 9:41 PM
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/security


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Apr 25, 2014 9:42 PM
I am talking PUBLIC DEBTS here, Beverly Berta Braakschmack


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Apr 25, 2014 9:43 PM
So now, read this again.... Article I. Every human being has the right to life, liberty and the security of his person


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Chris Evan

Apr 25, 2014 9:44 PM
The term security is usually applied to a deposit, lien, or mortgage voluntarily given by a debtor to a creditor to guarantee payment of a debt. Security furnishes the creditor with a resource to be sold or possessed in case of the debtor's failure to meet his or her financial obligation. In addition, a person who becomes a surety for another is sometimes referred to as a "security."


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Pete Daoust

Apr 25, 2014 9:44 PM
I have the right to that person's life I have the right to that person's liberty I have the right to that person's SECURITY to discharge PUBLIC DEBT :P


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Pete Daoust

Apr 25, 2014 9:46 PM
Bank of Canada = PUBLIC Person = PUBLIC DEBT = PUBLIC :P


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Pete Daoust

Apr 25, 2014 9:46 PM
"ME" = creditor of all that shit :D


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Apr 25, 2014 9:47 PM
That is NOT OF MY FUCKING BUSINESS :P


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CJ ML

Apr 25, 2014 9:48 PM
got it... DONE


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Apr 25, 2014 9:49 PM
If the idiot who opens the envelop, dosen't know what to do with it, his responsability, is to give that thing to his boss, and so on....


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Laurent Vah

Apr 25, 2014 9:51 PM
but what about the previous post i made about the word security that was translated to dutch but means a totally different thing?


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Apr 25, 2014 9:52 PM
Move to Quebec :P , no ambiguity here, they call it SURET� :P


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Apr 25, 2014 9:53 PM
But first, check how much time it takes from your country, to move the surety to my country :D


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Apr 25, 2014 9:54 PM
It takes 2 years for some, up to 5 years for others.......but they will make you pledge allegience, so you'll be fucked :D


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Laurent Vah

Apr 25, 2014 9:54 PM
well i could use the french version as we speak french here as well :p


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Apr 25, 2014 9:55 PM
Just cross your fingers when it's time to PLEDGE :D


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Laurent Vah

Apr 25, 2014 9:56 PM
but canada's too cold for me :D


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Apr 25, 2014 9:57 PM
Am I enough consistent or constant, Rick Carnes ? :D


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CJ ML

Apr 25, 2014 9:58 PM
I can only speak sign language....


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Chip Douglas

Apr 26, 2014 4:29 PM
Chris- work this question in there somewhere in regards to cutting-off your service: "Are you willing to accept the LIABILITY for your words and/or ACTIONS you take with ME?"


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 26, 2014 6:03 PM
Here we go... I think I found it: BREACH OF CONTRACT, INTIMIDATION AND DISCRIMINATION AGAINST TRADE UNIONISTS VIOLATION DE CONTRAT, INTIMIDATION ET DISTINCTION INJUSTE ENVERS LES SYNDIQU�S Criminal breach of contract 422. (1) Every one who wilfully breaks a contract, knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that the probable consequences of doing so, whether alone or in combination with others, will be (a) to endanger human life, (b) to cause serious bodily injury, (c) to expose valuable property, real or personal, to destruction or serious injury, (d) to deprive the inhabitants of a city or place, or part thereof, wholly or to a great extent, of their supply of light, power, gas or water, or


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 26, 2014 6:03 PM
Criminal Code


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Pete Daoust

Apr 26, 2014 6:07 PM
:)


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Cara Small

Apr 26, 2014 6:09 PM
I also am NOT ok with it. The legal world seems set up for the sole purpose of them to NOT be held accountable.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Apr 26, 2014 6:30 PM
The only reference to "inhabitants": incola (in-k<l-l<l), n. [Latin "an inhabitant"] Roman law. A foreign resident without full civil rights; the inhabitant of a foreign colony. -The term is used particularly for provincial residents who were not Roman citizens.


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Pete Daoust

Apr 26, 2014 6:46 PM
Like a Man or a Woman ? :/


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Apr 26, 2014 6:47 PM
In French..... Violation de contrat, intimidation et distinction injuste envers les syndiqu�s Note marginale :Violation criminelle de contrat 422. (1) Quiconque, volontairement, viole un contrat, sachant ou ayant des motifs raisonnables de croire que les cons�quences probables de son acte, qu�il agisse seul ou en liaison avec d�autres, seront, selon le cas : a) de mettre en danger la vie humaine; b) d�infliger des blessures corporelles graves; c) d�exposer des biens de valeur, meubles ou immeubles, � une ruine totale ou � de graves dommages; d) de priver les HABITANTS d�une ville ou localit�, ou de toute partie d�une ville ou localit�, totalement ou dans une grande mesure, de leur approvisionnement de lumi�re, d��nergie, de gaz ou d�eau; :p


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Apr 26, 2014 6:49 PM
Habitant in French is someone who is living somewhere :D


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 2:50 AM
So the cut the power today! :-D


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May 08, 2014 2:53 AM
Put it back on :P


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 3:07 AM
I have an interesting experience to share. I keep buying back the utility debt because I don't want it shut off. However, I was just experimenting and I sent a remittance in for double the amount due (They let you fill in these BoE's) and surprisingly I recieve a refund check for exactly half the remittance. Are they playing ball with me because I inadvertently allowed them to continue to twin the revenue stream?


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Sue Rakestraw

May 08, 2014 4:13 AM
Eli, could you clarify that please? Did you "buy it back" OR did you send in a BoE for double the amount?


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 4:29 AM
I did both. Then I receive a refund check with no explanation for exactly half the remittance amount. I ended up getting my money back essentially. I don't know if the SURETY paid double or what exactly they did but it was a shock.


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Sue Rakestraw

May 08, 2014 4:34 AM
Eli, it sounds like you sent a check for double the amount and they sent you a refund for one half.


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 4:37 AM
No I didn't do that. I paid the amount due that's it. I decided to experiment and send a remittance/ Bill of Exchange for double the amount to see what would happen.


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 4:40 AM
:O


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Sue Rakestraw

May 08, 2014 4:40 AM
That is odd, indeed. It seems they would have just left a credit balance instead of sending you a refund. Chris Evan needs to see this!


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Sue Rakestraw

May 08, 2014 4:42 AM
I am experimenting with Verizon, but have not heard anything back yet.


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 4:43 AM
Yeah I can't ascertain exactly what happened. I don't know if I have found a way to tap into the SURETY or what. What they do in that clubhouse is beyond me. :)


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Sue Rakestraw

May 08, 2014 4:44 AM
Perhaps the SURETY did pay and they refunded what you sent?


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 4:47 AM
Either that or I got the extra the SURETY paid. I don't know. Some freedumbs have said in the past that profiting off the discharge by the SURETY is a no no but that's from freedumbs. As far as I'm concerned its a refund of my money. I'm going to keep at this.


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Brad Tullar

May 08, 2014 4:47 AM
Eli are you in the U.S? If so were is the surety bank ..fed res?


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 4:49 AM
Yes I am in the U.S. I was under the impression the Treasury was SURETY but Scott recently confirmed it to be the Federal Reserve itself. Scott's always right so that's the SURETY.


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Brad Tullar

May 08, 2014 4:50 AM
Yes but there are 12 does it matter which one?


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 4:55 AM
I don't know. I send the remittance back to the BENEFICIARY and let them handle it. I did put the code on the back of my Social Security card on the remittance. Its rumored the letter prefix of that code indicates a federal reserve bank. I can't confirm any of that. I do know Scott was asked about the code and he basically indicated its not something we should be concerned with. Unnecessary clubhouse rules? I don't know.


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Sue Rakestraw

May 08, 2014 4:58 AM
Brad, my understanding is you use the Fed Reserve as Surety. The utility company can deposit it in their bank as all banks in the US use the Fed Reserve System. Once deposited at "any" bank, it clears through one of the 12 Fed Reserve districts banks. Anyone jump in here and correct if my understanding is wrong.


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Brad Tullar

May 08, 2014 5:00 AM
So all one would need to do is stamp "federal reserve bank" on the front of the BOE?


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Sue Rakestraw

May 08, 2014 5:01 AM
Eli, start a thread and post EXACTLY, step by step, what you wrote on your BoE. As you know, most of us in the states have trouble getting these accepted and processed. :D


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 5:02 AM
I didn't even do that. I have started putting "PAY TO THE ORDER OF" on them but the front I don't mess with anything other than that and the amount. I will probably get a stamp like the one Pete uses that says "ENDORSEMENT ON REVERSE".


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Brad Tullar

May 08, 2014 5:05 AM
Okay, so you do stamp accepted on the back with the date account number and the number that some call the exemption number?


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 5:11 AM
Accepted by: (my signature) then below that Date: 00/00/0000 below that Acct# (social security number) and finally below that the code on reverse of my SS card.


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 5:15 AM
I almost didn't bring this up because I don't know what happened and there's no proof. We all know they go to great pains to avoid giving any solid proof to us. That's why I made my remittance to the State of Illinois for taxes out for a couple bucks extra hoping to force a refund and some sort of proof.


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Brad Tullar

May 08, 2014 5:41 AM
Thanks Eli


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 5:44 AM
You are very welcome. I wish I had some concrete evidence of what's going on here. I was just screwing around when I sent this and didn't properly ACCOUNT for it. I am keeping meticulous records going forward and I will share all results with the group.


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Brad Tullar

May 08, 2014 5:56 AM
What is interesting is the fact that you put "Pay to the order of" because once the bill of exchange is completed it is a check and I may be wrong but I think all checks must say "pay to the order of" and/or "pay to bearer. Anyway I will be doing this soon and will share the results.


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Isaiah Whitney

May 08, 2014 5:59 AM
I am not sure if I did that with this one, but I studied the basics of negotiable instruments and that seems to be a necessity so I've done that with my PERSONS state income tax remittance and the property tax bill I am currently administrating. We shall see.


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Jason Lerato

May 08, 2014 12:55 PM
Love this fucking group


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 1:59 PM
Pay to the order of....hmmm.Mackximus and Pete, how do you feel about PAYING TO THE ORDER OF?


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 2:00 PM
Also, its my understanding that if a Bill is overpaid and a check is issued and TENDERED, one would also be TENDERING LAW....the particular law here, in fact, would be FRAUD!


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Anibal Jose Baez

May 08, 2014 2:05 PM
I am not sure, but I do see "pay to the order of" in all money orders, and on drafts. It's in the example of negotiable instruments , as well. So I made my stamp, just in case. But I think in the US, is part of the information need to have in a complete draft. Can Scott confirm this?


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 2:08 PM
What about REDEEMABLE at .....?


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 2:13 PM
What about go fuck your self at : :D


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 2:14 PM
What about Eli Weakley just happened to have found the most incompetent sack of shit of the history of United State, as far as this fucked up administration process ?


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 2:14 PM
:D


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 2:16 PM
What about, I should stop the coffee machine this morning :/


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Anibal Jose Baez

May 08, 2014 2:18 PM
Pete, please explain your comment "founding the most incompetent sack of shit?" :/


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 2:19 PM
Well, maybe it's a MISTAKE they have done..... ?


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 2:23 PM
States is plural idiot


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 2:24 PM
:-D :-D :-D


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Anibal Jose Baez

May 08, 2014 2:31 PM
I know in order to PAY, we have to BUY something first, but we are NOT buying anything. Right? But I just shared the info for the US. Let's figure this out.


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Anibal Jose Baez

May 08, 2014 2:36 PM
I just posted evidence, and no likes? :/


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Jason Lerato

May 08, 2014 2:41 PM
are we saying one can pay bills without using the fake cash in our pockets?


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 2:45 PM
hahahah....yes Max!!! We have a RIGHT to the SECURITY of the PERSON. That is held in an ACCOUNT at a FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Of course its payable! Pay to the order of. Hmmm....but this BoE that got the Electric shut off says "Please make check payable to: PMLP or Peabody Municipal Lght Plant" Perhaps I should have crossed off "Please make check".


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 2:46 PM
Pete, do you have a "Pay to the order of" stamp?


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 2:47 PM
Nope


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 2:50 PM
On one of these BoE, I have completed, I did this: Besisdes City of Montreal, I wrote BENEFICIARY Besides PIERRE DAOUST, I wrote DRAWER And Besides my Bank of Canada rubber stamp, I wrote DRAWEE Never heard of that one so far, it was a traffic ticket :/


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 3:10 PM
I think IDENTIFYING the three parties might be useful....


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 3:27 PM
How long?


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 4:02 PM
5 or 6 months ago...


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 4:10 PM
We are endorsing the back....isn't that for the beneficiary?


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Anibal Jose Baez

May 08, 2014 4:15 PM
Here are the rules, and importance for identifying the parties to a draft/negotiable instrument in the USA: <<A draft, or a cheque has three original parties: the drawer, the drawee, and the payee. The names given to the parties to these instruments are important because the liabilities of the parties varies depending on the parties role.>>


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Anibal Jose Baez

May 08, 2014 4:32 PM
There are 2 kinds of negotiable instruments: promises to pay, and orders to pay. A PROMISSORY NOTE: It's a written promise made and signed by the maker TO PAY a sum of certain money to the holder of an instrument. CERTIFICATE OF DEPOSITS: a written promise to pay by a BANK. DRAFTS or Bill of Exchange: A bill of exchange in the USA it's a called a DRAFT, and it MUST be and ORDER TO PAY a sum of money to a second party. Here you have 3 parties: a drawer, a drawee, and a payee.


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Will Bed

May 08, 2014 4:37 PM
Chris Evan i remember WB owing money to his dad as a kid, and dad would ask WB to flip his paycheck over, sign it, and dad could deposit the check, and the money from the employer's account would go to WB's dad's account. So basically, in the case of a Bill of exchange, if WB owes money to, say, the city of Quebec, WB can flip the check over, sign it, and the money from the SURETY will go to the city's account...


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May 08, 2014 4:41 PM


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 5:22 PM
Yup...got it WB


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 5:22 PM
Thank you


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Anibal Jose Baez

May 08, 2014 5:25 PM
Make NOTE that in the USA, instead of BENEFICIARY, we use the word PAYEE. The rules are clear everything must be identified correctly.


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Anibal Jose Baez

May 08, 2014 5:41 PM
And if Pete's administration process fails, I have my own "Accepted for Stupid, Returned for Retard, Gay Tax Duty, Exempt for Moron" method. Hell, maybe I'll teach you Adam Thomas' "Rock-o-Crack" method too! I have grown Dean's Wolverine beard, got the "mountain man from Montana" outfit, and have the middle-eastern terrorist Bonacci look, so I'm ready for some seminars!


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 6:31 PM
And if Pete's administration process fails... It's not Pete's administration process, it's the Government's administration process :D So if it fails, we have a huge PROBLEM :D HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!


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Chris Evan

May 08, 2014 6:59 PM
Mackximus Minimus by "gay tax duty", are you trying to pay for the jurisdiction?


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 7:05 PM
No, he wants to PAY for YOUR taxes, Chris Evan :P


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Brad Tullar

May 08, 2014 9:36 PM
Acceptance is the drawers written promise to pay the draft when it comes due. Is the drawee the person I happen to have in my pocket? And why does this say to stamp accepted on the face?


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Brad Tullar

May 08, 2014 9:39 PM


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 9:43 PM
The Drawee is the BANK The Drawer is the PERSON I have. The BENEFICIARY is the one who try to make you buy back this debt :D


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Brad Tullar

May 08, 2014 9:48 PM
Okay, when I complete this bill of exchange and send it to the beneficiary at some point a bank is going to stamp accepted on the front?


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 9:55 PM
Why ?


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Brad Tullar

May 08, 2014 9:58 PM
Good question, It has nothing to do with me so why do I care


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Pete Daoust

May 08, 2014 10:01 PM
Good answer :D


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Scott Duncan

May 08, 2014 10:38 PM
Mackximus Minimus: Keep in mind that Dean Clifford holds the claim for "Wolverine CosPlay Guy", and you don't wan't to be stepping on any "guru" toes.


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Anibal Jose Baez

May 08, 2014 10:43 PM
True that. Is just that "Fortress of Remand" sounds so cozy.


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Pete Daoust

May 09, 2014 12:05 AM
Let someone else book your hotel rooms while on the road doing these seminars, Mackximus Minimus, just saying :-P


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CJ ML

May 09, 2014 2:09 AM
1. All crimes are commercial in nature in the US since 1933. 2. I have the right to decline any and all commerce.


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CJ ML

May 09, 2014 2:09 AM
Why are all ships female? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wi8Fv0AJA4


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Scott Duncan

May 09, 2014 2:12 AM
Women aren't PERSONS under the law. NO PERSON=NO SURETY. It's why you need INSURANCE.


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Scott Duncan

May 09, 2014 4:40 AM
NO! SHIT-STAIN! The dictionary in your ass is NOT A VALID REFERENCE!


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Scott Duncan

May 09, 2014 4:41 AM
JURISDICTION Etymology: from Old French jurediction; from Latin jurisdictio(n); from jus, jur, "law" + dictio "saying"; from dicere, "to say".


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Scott Duncan

May 09, 2014 4:44 AM
2 hours I was away, and the shit-stains cover the forum.


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Jeremy Richard

May 09, 2014 4:55 AM
:-D http://imgur.com/user/fapnation/favorites/zisbO


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Scott Duncan

May 09, 2014 5:18 AM
Deleting your shit stain just makes me look like I'm talking to myself, Jason Moreland. You want to stain the forum with bullshit? LIVE WITH IT WHEN I SHOW YOU YOU'RE AN IDIOT. You can serve as a warning to others! ...but YOU just delete it, removing the context. Your cowardice comes at my expense.


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