The Tender For Law

Volume 5

Mar 23, 2014 11:23 PM

Chris Evan

It seems like we are talking more about being a Creditor here now. Now is probably a good time to clear out FREEDUMB crap stuck in my (and/or our) brain.

First, we know to send BoEs REGISTERED MAIL. That registered mail number is an internationally recognized number....ie, unique number. The letter that Pete Daoust and I have used that we are sending with the BoEs, could actually be a document of Title, correct? This Title, we would use to claim the creation of the funds, yes? That Title SHOULD be kept by us for a CLAIM....is all this correct?

Second, a few members here have been discussing the TAX forms necessary to be a Creditor. It makes sense that one would have to tell the ACCOUNTANTS what the ACCOUNTS are doing. I think I have seen the Canadians discussing T5008 (?) and in the States, its 1099-OID (I think). Then I have seen others around discussing IRS form 707 and 709 (again...I think). Scott Duncan, is this correct?

Third, if we are creating these funds and we are claiming to be the Creditor, someone needs to be the Debtor, yes? Is there any reason to use a W-9 form (for those who we create the funds for....Beneficiary of a BoE)?

I think that is all in my brain for now......but this could be a good Creditor thread!!

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Jo Xappie

If I could be of some assistance with the FREE-DUMB stuff and perhaps provide an ANSWER TO SOMETHING. Home Depot is offering this item in the security section of the store, and offers it free with every surveillance package you buy.

Chris Evan

I don't think so Pete Daoust....I think some rogue corporations are still going around based on a presumed Power of Attorney and fucking with that persons stuff.

For instance, a closed account is still open for set off. They are still using the signature.....

Fuck that!

Pete Daoust

If it's true that if there would be PROFIT instead of DEBTS, for lets say Canada, I could show up at Bank of Canada with that CERTIFICATE, and exchange the coupon attached to it, for DIVIDENDES.......well, the only thing there is to CLAIM in that case is DEBTS ??....no ?? :/

Jo Xappie

Pete Daoust, here is the "Pledge"

�[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will effect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions.

Colonel Edward Mendell House

Chris Evan

Pete Daoust...you are missing the whole other side of this. I get it....you are happy with where you are and comfortable with what you know. But you are missing this point. and these questions werent addressed to you

Anibal Jose Baez

By the definition of the words, you cannot claim "credit". You may claim money, "rights", benefits, property or interest in property, possessory claims, even titles to land, but not credit. So it is confusing, Chris.

You must look at credit in terms of ACCOUNTING.

Remember, everything is SURETY and ACCOUNTING.

Anibal Jose Baez

<<Credit

A term used in accounting to describe either an entry on the righthand side of an account or the process of making such an entry. A credit records the increases in liabilities, owners' Equity, and revenues as well as the decreases in assets and expenses.

A sum in taxation that is subtracted from the computed tax, as opposed to a deduction that is ordinarily subtracted from gross income to determine adjusted gross income or taxable income. A claim for a particular sum of money.

The ability of an individual or a company to borrow money or procure goods on time, as a result of a positive opinion by the particular lender concerning such borrower's solvency and reliability. The right granted by a creditor to a debtor to delay satisfaction of a debt, or to incur a debt and defer the payment thereof.>> http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/credit

Anibal Jose Baez

<<Claim

To demand or assert as a right. Facts that combine to give rise to a legally enforceable right or judicial action. Demand for relief.

A claim is something that one party owes another. Someone may make a legal claim for money, or property, or for Social Security benefits.

A claim also means an interest in, as in a possessory claim, or right to possession, or a claim of title to land.>> http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/claim

Anibal Jose Baez

Chris, everything outside of this group will confuse you. Scott has used the term Executor, but only to tell us to stay away from that stuff.

It's hard to detox from the past, if you mingle with people that are STILL in the past. My friends list has gone down from 400+, to 44. Like Pete said, I know myself, and I stay away now from those old influences. There is no "in between".

Just sayin'.