Pete Daoust

Mar 23, 2014 11:37 PM
Fuck, I don't get anything in what you are saying here :-(


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Pete Daoust

Mar 23, 2014 11:38 PM
I wonder what kind of a brain you have :-D


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Chris Evan

Mar 23, 2014 11:38 PM
Pete...I am asking the Admiral what we have to tell the Accountants really......So, you have had the most success finding the SURETY. BUT, you have created funds. Shouldn't they be claimed?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 23, 2014 11:40 PM
A creditor creates "credit"


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Chris Evan

Mar 23, 2014 11:40 PM
AND.....if there is any FREEDUMB crap in my brain, it would be best to lose it here on this thread rather than in the real world


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Chris Evan

Mar 23, 2014 11:40 PM
Yeah....but shouldn't that be CLAIMED by someone we trust for our benefit?


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Chris Evan

Mar 23, 2014 11:41 PM
If someone we trust doesn't claim the creation of credit, couldn't some other ROGUE corporation?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 23, 2014 11:41 PM
Maybe verifying the difference between "credit" and "funds" would be a good idea ! :-\


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Chris Evan

Mar 23, 2014 11:42 PM
sure....and that why I am here!


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Pete Daoust

Mar 23, 2014 11:50 PM
I still think that the accountant's job is to balance the books, so the best thing to say to him/her shall be, hey, balance these books please ! :-D


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Chris Evan

Mar 23, 2014 11:53 PM
<sigh> yeah Pete, no shit. this is the CPAs job (chartered accountant). But I would like to know the basics


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Chris Evan

Mar 23, 2014 11:55 PM
and I don't think a CPA is going to lien a bunch of shit for me.....


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:01 AM
Before you start liening shit, you might need to send a few invoices :-P


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:12 AM
Why?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:14 AM
Well, what shit would you like to lien ? :/


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:15 AM
SS Account, Electric Account, Bank Accounts, ANY account that the PERSON opened ever, Drivers License, Registrations....err.....everything that the person has ever done


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:18 AM
Ho !!! :-o


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:19 AM
Lets start with this SS account, Why you want to lien this, and what makes you think you can do that ?


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:20 AM
Because it is an account of the PERSON which I gave value...


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 12:20 AM
If I could be of some assistance with the FREE-DUMB stuff and perhaps provide an ANSWER TO SOMETHING. Home Depot is offering this item in the security section of the store, and offers it free with every surveillance package you buy.


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:22 AM
The Corporation that CLAIMED and LIENED the PERSON should lien all of the Accounts, is this incorrect? Does the corporation not have a stake in the business of the Person?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:25 AM
Ok, but Chris, if that PERSON has been claimed by another PERSON, I guess everything hooked to that PERSON is also claimed ? ....no ? :/


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:26 AM
I don't think so Pete Daoust....I think some rogue corporations are still going around based on a presumed Power of Attorney and fucking with that persons stuff. For instance, a closed account is still open for set off. They are still using the signature..... Fuck that!


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:28 AM
Well, that would be illegal :D If I register a lien on a car, and someone removes the engine, or fuck around with that car's seats......he is comitting a crime ? ....no ? :/


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:29 AM
So are you saying that they aren't doing what I think they are doing?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:29 AM
Then a HUGE invoice could be sent to this fucktard, and I could LIEN some more shit :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:30 AM
Well, if they do it, and you find out, you will have to send some invoices... :/


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:30 AM
Scott Duncan...is this wrong?


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:32 AM
Its settling an Estate. The Executor has to go out and find all the accounts of the deceased. (Don't correct me on the words....this is an analogy) All accounts need to be claimed individually


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:32 AM
Ask Jo Xappie, he has a direct connection with Scott :D


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 12:32 AM
I do?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:32 AM
Yes you do


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 12:32 AM
via telepathy


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:33 AM
LOL....via COMPUTER SCIENCE :P


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 12:33 AM
all ones and zeros


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:36 AM
The Admiral must be doing "boat stuff"....


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:38 AM
Mmmhhh....I suspect him doing some computer stuff......he has boat bunnies for the boat stuff :-P


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 12:39 AM
The Admiral oversees All


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:39 AM
And the computer stuff he does, might have some positive impact on the crew :-D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:40 AM
An exchange type of thing, ya know !! :-D


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:42 AM
Anyway...back to the OP. I am pretty sure this is how one man can "dump a half a billion dollars into the market". by claiming the credit!


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:44 AM
I thought I could ONLY "give" credit, not CLAIMING it :(


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:47 AM
Maybe you meant claiming the "bebt" ? :/


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:48 AM
Nope


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:48 AM
Maybe the problem is you still think that there is a POSITIVE balance somewhere Chris, and me, I think there is ONLY debts.....


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:49 AM
The only thing I can see so far, is DEBTS, I can't see anything else, unless I open my crypto-currency wallets :D


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 12:56 AM
money of exchange. I see the concept, I just have a hard time calling a crypto-currency "money" based on what we've come to see what "money" really is


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:57 AM
If it's true that if there would be PROFIT instead of DEBTS, for lets say Canada, I could show up at Bank of Canada with that CERTIFICATE, and exchange the coupon attached to it, for DIVIDENDES.......well, the only thing there is to CLAIM in that case is DEBTS ??....no ?? :/


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:57 AM
Oh ffs....your fucking time is q POSITIVE balance. And it is somewhere


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 12:57 AM
For every debt, there must be a credit...cmon....you know this


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 12:57 AM
LOL... :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:01 AM
You just saying it Chris, credit and debt, and there is MORE debt than there is credit right now..... :D


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:01 AM
Because no one is claiming the credit!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:02 AM
No, because everyone are BUYING BACK these debts :P


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:03 AM
Chris Evan where is the credit coming from?


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:03 AM
Yes....and if we CREATE A BoE, its creating Credit. It needs to be claimed!!


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:03 AM
Buying back debts = debt BoE = credit!!!


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:03 AM
a BoE is just a promise to pay, a debt instrument, where's the credit?


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:04 AM
The credit is discharge...I think


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:05 AM
The credit comes from some SPECULATIONS fucktards have placed on my shoulders :D


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:05 AM
Yes. So I am saying claim it!!


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:05 AM
And they have EXAGERATED a bit, these past 40 some years :D HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:06 AM
ME is the only real credit. ME is the only one that has VALUE :p


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:07 AM
But that "ME", has been stolen when I was 16 days old :(


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:07 AM
Am I wrong?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:08 AM
I don't think you are wrong Chris, but unless the DEBT is cleared, you won't get fuckall from no one :P


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:09 AM
Its not about getting fuckall fucktard. Its about claiming CREDIT as the fucking CREATOR! GOD!!!


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:09 AM
Why do you think they have brought your national debts to a level where it will be impossible to clear ?


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:09 AM
:-)


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:09 AM
Lets go 100 years into the future and a death certificate is issued. Now what happens to ME and ME's value?


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:11 AM
Its not impossible...just gonna take a while


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:11 AM
You can use that "credit" for ANY debts sent to the person, Chris


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:11 AM
A HUGE fucking while !!!! :D


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:14 AM
I would think that all debts would be settled for the PERSON in my backpocket


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:14 AM
A settled debtv= credit yes?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:15 AM
Yep, by being discharge via the SURETY :)


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:15 AM
Who's credit is it?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:16 AM
Do you guys know WHY there's a SURETY hooked to that PERSON, they've created a few days after your birth ?


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:16 AM
its a pledge, like a future in the stock market


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:17 AM
A pledge ???....what the fuck is this ? :D


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:17 AM
and their portfolio keeps growing with every birth they capture


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:17 AM
:D Pledge A Bailment or delivery of Personal Property to a creditor as security for a debt or for the performance of an act.


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:19 AM
So they've created that person, put it in collateral versus a public debt, right ? So they had no choice to "deliver" a personal property to "ME" ? :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:20 AM
That personal property is the SURETY ? :-o


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 1:21 AM
So Pete Daoust...why should we claim and lien our instruments?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:22 AM
To make sure I am the ONLY one that have ACCESS to this personal property, being the SURETY :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:22 AM
The PLEDGE :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:24 AM
Now, if Scott Duncan could be generous and help me find out ALL METHODS available to "me", to ACCESS that personal property, being that surety, that would be fun :D HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:24 AM
I know one method to this day... :/


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:26 AM
CLAIMING the surety seems to make all others loosing all INTEREST they might have on the PERSON.... :)


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:26 AM
Oh Pete Daoust do tell!!! :P


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:31 AM
Well, if there's no surety, no business can be made ! :-\


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:32 AM
AnywAy I hope it clears up things for you Chris Evan :-D


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:32 AM
Now you control the "business:


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:35 AM
Pete Daoust, here is the "Pledge" �[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will effect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Colonel Edward Mendell House


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 1:45 AM
But now we know Jo, don't we ?


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:46 AM
Of course we do:)


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Jo Xappie

Mar 24, 2014 1:47 AM
pisses me off to no avail that some dumbass would treat me as chattel, NO?


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 4:25 AM
Pete Daoust...you are missing the whole other side of this. I get it....you are happy with where you are and comfortable with what you know. But you are missing this point. and these questions werent addressed to you


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 4:26 AM
Confortable with what I know ? :( ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY ???? :(


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 4:33 AM
Tell me what I am missing Chris,


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 4:33 AM
Its up there...you are missing the claim the Credit part


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 4:35 AM
Ok, well I really hope someday I'll get it :(


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 4:36 AM
I'll start by figuring out how a creditor can claim credits, and WHY shall he do such a thing......will get back to you when I'll figure that one out :(


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 4:42 AM
He doesnt. Someone he trusts does.


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 4:43 AM
Plus....what does this have to do with you? I was asking the Admiral


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 4:44 AM
Who do you talk too ?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 4:45 AM
Chris Evan, who do you talk to ?


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Chris Evan

Mar 24, 2014 4:49 AM
Dude....I am done conversing with you here


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 4:53 AM
TO WHO THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING TO Chris Evan, fuck :(


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 4:57 AM
Chris Evan, I am asking one more time, with who are you talking with, in here ? ....please answer me....


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 5:02 AM
Are you mad at me because I can't understand what you are trying to do ? .....is that is ? Woah !! :-o


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Anibal Jose Baez

Mar 24, 2014 10:46 AM
By the definition of the words, you cannot claim "credit". You may claim money, "rights", benefits, property or interest in property, possessory claims, even titles to land, but not credit. So it is confusing, Chris. You must look at credit in terms of ACCOUNTING. Remember, everything is SURETY and ACCOUNTING.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Mar 24, 2014 10:51 AM
<<Credit A term used in accounting to describe either an entry on the righthand side of an account or the process of making such an entry. A credit records the increases in liabilities, owners' Equity, and revenues as well as the decreases in assets and expenses. A sum in taxation that is subtracted from the computed tax, as opposed to a deduction that is ordinarily subtracted from gross income to determine adjusted gross income or taxable income. A claim for a particular sum of money. The ability of an individual or a company to borrow money or procure goods on time, as a result of a positive opinion by the particular lender concerning such borrower's solvency and reliability. The right granted by a creditor to a debtor to delay satisfaction of a debt, or to incur a debt and defer the payment thereof.>> http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/credit


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Anibal Jose Baez

Mar 24, 2014 10:52 AM
<<Claim To demand or assert as a right. Facts that combine to give rise to a legally enforceable right or judicial action. Demand for relief. A claim is something that one party owes another. Someone may make a legal claim for money, or property, or for Social Security benefits. A claim also means an interest in, as in a possessory claim, or right to possession, or a claim of title to land.>> http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/claim


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Anibal Jose Baez

Mar 24, 2014 3:39 PM
Chris, everything outside of this group will confuse you. Scott has used the term Executor, but only to tell us to stay away from that stuff. It's hard to detox from the past, if you mingle with people that are STILL in the past. My friends list has gone down from 400+, to 44. Like Pete said, I know myself, and I stay away now from those old influences. There is no "in between". Just sayin'.


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 4:54 PM
Ha, I knew I could only "GIVE" credit :P


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Pete Daoust

Mar 24, 2014 4:55 PM
Now, to WHO in the fuck, I "gave" ALL this credit ?, that is the QUESTION, I guess :)


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Anibal Jose Baez

Mar 24, 2014 4:59 PM
Apparently "others" have been benefiting from OUR "full faith and credit". We have been "extending credit" like maniacs. :/ And then serving as DEBTORS as well, by buying back those debts.


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David Johansen

Mar 24, 2014 9:40 PM
the land of confusion.


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