Chris Evan

Mar 05, 2014 2:24 PM
Isn't this an act of a constructive trust?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 2:31 PM
Maybe ? !! :/


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Janick Paquette

Mar 05, 2014 2:38 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_trust


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Chris Evan

Mar 05, 2014 2:41 PM
It definitely is! Party A is granting property or rights to Party B for the benefit of Party C


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Chris Evan

Mar 05, 2014 2:41 PM
Get it?


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Janick Paquette

Mar 05, 2014 2:41 PM
or... http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/constructive_trust


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Chris Evan

Mar 05, 2014 2:42 PM
oh...? maybe constructive was the wrong word.....


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Chris Evan

Mar 05, 2014 2:43 PM
But it fits the definition of trust. If its writing it would be expressed....


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Janick Paquette

Mar 05, 2014 2:49 PM
So Chris, "Trust" was the entended word, right? :)


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 2:53 PM
Yes, a fucking TRUST.... :P


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Janick Paquette

Mar 05, 2014 3:57 PM
From what I read for the last week, if I understand corectly, we need a Corporation to Lien the person (we happen to have in our pocket) because a Man cannot Lien anything so we need to create another person (corporation) to Lien THE person we happen to have and then by creating a TRUST :P and putting the corporation in that TRUST, we can level the person, from a MARITIME law (which is the lowest level of law) to TRUST law (which is the highest level of law). And since the gouvernement is a TRUST, they no longer have power over that person we happen to have.


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David Johansen

Mar 05, 2014 7:54 PM
you hold the lein in the trust, you cant put the corp in the trust. but your getting the idea... yah.


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Janick Paquette

Mar 05, 2014 8:32 PM
finally getting there! Thanks David! :)


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Scott Duncan

Mar 05, 2014 9:06 PM
If the corporation liens the name, then they already HAVE it, technically, but Power of Attorney is a good idea anyway.


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Janick Paquette

Mar 05, 2014 9:16 PM
I'm lost Scott, Who's THEY? Isn't it the corporation that has it? :/


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Scott Duncan

Mar 05, 2014 9:16 PM
They being the subject who liens.


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Scott Duncan

Mar 05, 2014 9:17 PM
The corporation.


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Janick Paquette

Mar 05, 2014 9:19 PM
OK! I thought I was way off again... :/ I'm sick of being off! So that's good news then! :)


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 9:23 PM
Here is the Power of Attorney I created :P Je soussign�, Pierre Daoust, Enregistrement d�une Naissance Vivante no. 11XXXX, demeurant actuellement au 1XXX rue Labelle, � Mirabel, d�signe par le pr�sent document 9111-1111 Quebec Inc, domicili� actuellement au 123, avenue Lucien, suite 114, � Montr�al, H1C 4D1, comme le mandataire de ma personne, c�est-�-dire, PIERRE DAOUST, no D�Inscription 119XXXXXXXXXX, et le NAS : 26X-XXX-XXX Je confie � mon mandataire le pouvoir d'administrer les biens meubles et immeubles, selon les r�gles de la simple administration, et toutes affaires commerciales concernant la personne que j�ai, c�est-�-dire PIERRE DAOUST, no. d�inscription 119XXXXXXXXXX, et le NAS : 26X-XXX-XXX. Sign� � Montr�al, le 12 f�vrier 2014. __________________________________ Acceptation La personne Soussign�e, 9111-1111 Qu�bec Inc, accepte d'ex�cuter la procuration que lui � confi� Pierre Daoust, l�homme qui a la personne nomm�e PIERRE DAOUST, No. d�inscription 119XXXXXXXXXX par le pr�sent document. Sign� � Montr�al, le 16 f�vrier 2014. __________________________________ __________________________________ (adresse)


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 9:23 PM
Janick Paquette, translate please, I am fed up :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:21 PM
Thanks Janick Paquette.....but it's not right, so I deleted it :(


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Mimi O'Meigh

Mar 05, 2014 11:45 PM
I, Pierre Daoust, Recording a Live Birth no. 11XXXX , currently residing at 1XXX Street Labelle, Mirabel , means hereby 9111-1111 Quebec Inc , currently residing at 123 Avenue Lucien , following 114 in Montreal H1C 4D1 , as the representative of my person is ie , PIERRE DAOUST , no registration 119XXXXXXXXXX , and SIN : 26X -XXX- XXX I entrust to my agent the power to administer the real and personal property , according to the rules of simple administration, and all commercial affairs of the person I have is to say PIERRE DAOUST , no. 119XXXXXXXXXX of registration and SIN : 26X -XXX- XXX . Signed at Montreal on 12 February 2014. __________________________________ acceptance The undersigned , 9111-1111 Quebec Inc., agrees to execute the power of attorney given to him Pierre Daoust, the man who the person named PIERRE DAOUST , registration of 119XXXXXXXXXX hereby No. . Signed at Montreal on 16 February 2014. __________________________________ __________________________________ (address) :P


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Mimi O'Meigh

Mar 05, 2014 11:46 PM
Now we know where you live! Postcard?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:47 PM
:D ....better, but 9111-1111 Quebec inc, are NOT residing, they are DOMICILED :P


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:47 PM
Ho yes, that's right, I am dumb enough to put the REAL addresses on facebook, I am a French fuctard after all :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:48 PM
Mimi O'Collins, the NEWFIE :P


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:49 PM
And it's NOT " following 114 ", it's SUITE 114 :P


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Mimi O'Meigh

Mar 05, 2014 11:50 PM
Do your own fucking translations! :P


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:50 PM
Ok, I NEVER asked you :P


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:51 PM
Mother Teresa !!! :D HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:51 PM
Or melady ? :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:51 PM
is it mylady or melady ?


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Mimi O'Meigh

Mar 05, 2014 11:51 PM
Fucktard of the week. ^^^ :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:51 PM
milady ?


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Mimi O'Meigh

Mar 05, 2014 11:52 PM
QUI?


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Mimi O'Meigh

Mar 05, 2014 11:52 PM
QUOI?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:53 PM
Wait for me a minute, I'll refresh your memory :D


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Janick Paquette

Mar 05, 2014 11:54 PM
Pete, So I guess you modified it a little! ;) Much better! :)


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:55 PM
Are you ready for my next post, Mimi O'Collins ? :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:56 PM
Nah, I won't do it, this time :D


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Mimi O'Meigh

Mar 05, 2014 11:58 PM
Threatening behaviours being carried on in these quarters, Admiral!?! Pete, YOU wanna be a dick, like "Dickrek" Moron? :P


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Pete Daoust

Mar 05, 2014 11:59 PM
HAHAHA!!!....I don't have that ability, Mimi O'Collins, sorry :D


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Janick Paquette

Mar 06, 2014 12:19 AM
Well, on that note.... I think it's a nice DRAFT Pete. But I should have sent it private so you could correct the record (like a certain Dean we know likes to say)! :) Can I help to modify so we cn all benefit from it?


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Stuart Stone

Mar 06, 2014 12:36 AM
'as the representative of my person is ie , PIERRE DAOUST , no registration 119XXXXXXXXXX , and SIN : 26X -XXX- XXX', should/could possibly be reworded as: 'as the representative of the person and/or property known and/or described as PIERRE DAOUST , registration no. 119XXXXXXXXXX , and SIN : 26X -XXX- XXX' It is my understanding that the person is considered 'property' according to the lien, and the NAME & inscription number is a description of the property/person for identification purposes.


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Janick Paquette

Mar 06, 2014 12:38 AM
And I thought I had to translate everything.....you guys all know FRench? :D


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Stuart Stone

Mar 06, 2014 12:42 AM
io parlo un po l'Italiano, je comprends un peu le Francais...just tidying up a little English (or is it legalese) to clarify what has been liened and/or the specific intent of the POA :D


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Janick Paquette

Mar 06, 2014 12:45 AM
After using "Google translation" I can say: Grande! ;)


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Stuart Stone

Mar 06, 2014 12:46 AM
I totally rely on google translate for spelling & grammar ;-)


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Janick Paquette

Mar 06, 2014 12:47 AM
here, here! :D


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Janick Paquette

Mar 06, 2014 12:49 AM
ok! hum! I feel shitstains here! :( Sorry guys! :/


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Chip Douglas

Mar 06, 2014 1:27 AM
Can a Power-of-Attorney also be given by a 'Donor,' Scott?


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Scott Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 1:28 AM
NO.


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Pete Daoust

Mar 06, 2014 1:30 AM
A "donor" is dead, after he donated :P


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Scott Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 1:30 AM
Power of Attorney is YOURS and YOURS ALONE TO GIVE. It is not anyone's right to refuse your WILL. Nobody has the right to donate your WILL! Why don't you know this?


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Scott Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 1:32 AM
Do you people actually grasp why I hold you in such contempt? I KNOW there are no "stupid" questions, but FUCK! There are a LOT of inquisitive idiots! >:(


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Scott Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 1:48 AM
...and sorry, Chip Douglas, but that was a stupid question to ask, and mine STILL stands; WHY DON'T YOU KNOW THIS?


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Scott Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 1:51 AM
I thought there were no stupid questions, and it took Chip Douglas to prove me WRONG! *GASP!* Feel the fabric of Space & Time, ripping apart? No? I guess "there are no stupid questions" is just a weasel-word catch-phrase invented by those who are "keepin' it real" :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 06, 2014 1:54 AM
I can swing by you a TON of "stupid questions" for REAL :D


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Scott Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 2:03 AM
Oh fuck, PLEASE don't, Pete!


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Pete Daoust

Mar 06, 2014 2:04 AM
Whats happens if they pulls the internet plugs.....


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Scott Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 2:05 AM
I KNOW YOU could! I can't fight Quebecois-grade Stupid. I'm just one man.


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Scott Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 2:05 AM
OMG, too late. :(


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Pete Daoust

Mar 06, 2014 2:05 AM
:D


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Tara Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 2:08 AM
The Internet plugs are protected by guard dogs, a moat, and an electrical fence. They're as safe as if they were totally redundant and distributed.


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Stuart Stone

Mar 06, 2014 2:12 AM
what, no dragons? :P


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Tara Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 2:23 AM
...and dragons.


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Stuart Stone

Mar 06, 2014 2:24 AM
thanks :D


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Tara Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 2:25 AM
No: thank you Stuart Stone. Security is important.


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Scott Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 2:26 AM
"They're as safe as if they were totally redundant and distributed" - HAR! :D


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Stuart Stone

Mar 06, 2014 2:32 AM
There's nothing like a mythical solution to a mythical problem ;-)


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Tara Duncan

Mar 06, 2014 2:36 AM
I'm now forced to wonder how many people think there are internet plugs. And dragons. We're alone Stuart, so very alone.


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Stuart Stone

Mar 06, 2014 2:40 AM
You're never alone Tara Duncan, just know that Jeebus is always with you...see, I have a whole load of mythical solutions to non existent problems...ta daaaaa! :D


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Chip Douglas

Mar 06, 2014 8:33 PM
Yes, you're right Scott. I meant 'power of appointment,' and said instead power of attorney. I got them mixed-up, my mistake.


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Scott Duncan

Mar 07, 2014 5:03 AM
The question is JUST as stupid. Who has the right to "donate" the will of the testator? You just stepped into a different colour of stupid.


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Scott Duncan

Mar 07, 2014 5:05 AM
Seriously Chip, have you been hanging around Derek Moran? Where are these idiotic concepts coming from?


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Scott Duncan

Mar 07, 2014 5:06 AM
Are you trying to commit fraud, because that shit's on a different forum.


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David Johansen

Mar 07, 2014 7:57 AM
ah, maybe pete could author a will for the person in his pocket and claim administration of it. (hows that for dumb question)


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Mimi O'Meigh

Mar 08, 2014 6:53 PM
I am looking at: The Corporations Act, Form 26, Power of Attorney. Should be available as a pdf in the respective provinces.


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