Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 3:24 AM
Question: Who would be the most appropriate party to have NOTICE: that the carrier has delivered the Name to the Beneficiary, and that the Beneficiary and/or Sole Administrator is rescinding the PERSON from public commerce (as soon as he ,(sui juris), gets a few more enemas) . The Administrator for the PERSON and/or The carrier requires payment for services rendered: if this payment (fuckin huge, you know for all the trouble!) cant be "paid" (of course it can't) a commercial lien shall follow. I am "leaning"(play on words here) towards the registrar general, in the province of issue? Would a "notice to agent is notice to principle, notice to principal is notice to agent" cover that angle of this getting to the proper party? (or am i ,like totally, being retarded here?)


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Pete Daoust

Feb 10, 2014 3:39 AM
I pick "retarded" :D


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 3:43 AM
"BIRTH CERTIFICATE = BILL OF LADING Parents were the GRANTOR (one of the parties that created the bill of lading). Listen up and pay attention. YOU ARE THE CARRIER! A Truck ACTING AS CARRIER is NOT "120,000 RonCo Turnip Twaddlers"! IT IS, IN FACT, A CARRIER THAT HAS "120,000 RonCo Turnip Twaddlers"! It's delivering it to YOU (The Beneficiary). It just hasn't arrived yet. You don't know that YOU own the CARGO. If you OWN the cargo you are transporting you are no longer in commerce. You are transporting PROPERTY. The NAME is the CARGO, and the BIRTH CERTIFICATE is the BILL OF LADING. It's valueless on it's own. Hence the term "Sold a bill of goods". Ok, got it so far (I think)...so when you lien the name, are you doing it because you haven't been paid for transport/carriage of the goods? You are letting the world know that the cargo is in fact YOURS. Nobody has the right to presume your cargo is for commerce now. That is ALL a Lien is. " SCOTT DUNCAN. My intent is to create grounds for the astronomical lien I intend on placing on the PERSON.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 3:43 AM
retarded I accept also


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:32 AM
You can't, someone you trust can.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 3:27 PM
a corp. will be used


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 3:33 PM
bob, have you done this?


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 3:39 PM
I operate under corporate charter in Private.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 3:40 PM
i mean, have you liened the person you are beneficiary of?


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 3:40 PM
For the benefit of an exclusive clientele, who benefit.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 3:41 PM
i'm sorry i don't understand if that is a yes or no


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 3:42 PM
I liened the person that was given to me via a duly authorized TRUSTEE corporation.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 3:42 PM
cool


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 3:48 PM
Do you "believe" or know if one has to create a "bill" and have a unpaid claim before liening, as it seems reasonable to do such for a a claim to be made, or is it that I simply lien with the fact that I am the substance behind the person which creates all value.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 3:54 PM
I know that as the vessel with one sole on board that I have supreme claim on me. I know : that acting under the title of Mister, I granted the corporation, via trust agreement and corporate charter, Exclusive rights to act on behalf of me thru Trust and Title. I know the government is a trust and there is no person to stand against anything I do in my private domain. I know that a lien diverts any revenue created by any account derived from the NAME, including titles of the legal person. I know the registrar general got my notice and has accepted these terms.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 3:57 PM
All thru some one else I trust.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 3:58 PM
So I granted the trust and the directors saw fit to Lien the fucker, the actual lien accounts for it.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 3:59 PM
There was no bill, other than proper public notice. That is the Bill.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:01 PM
gotcha, thanks. Will continue to fumble through.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:03 PM
will be looking at the PPSA formwork next, not sure if it requires an $amount entered into a field, but i suspect so.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:05 PM
Get the corporation. Lien the name, in trust, assign roles in the trust agreement, derive corporate charter= private license, from trust agreement. Assign a value to the lien. Administrate the lien as an officer of corporation. Does that help?


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:06 PM
Yes.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:07 PM
Yes, thanks. r u willing to keep going with me here?


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:07 PM
That little piece of info took me 11 months to figure out, the value�


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:07 PM
only if you do not go TEXT TARD.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:07 PM
yeah, how about I ask ?'s then.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:08 PM
Sure� Full words only.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:09 PM
That is a very important point to grasp in accounting terms.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:13 PM
I am on CANADA, Scott declares Delaware the haven for a great place to Incorporate. I not only would like to have the Corporation become the trustee of the private trust which will then Administrate the lien. I would also like to run a small construction endeavor through it. I have seen that in order to do this a "branch" application has to be made to do such in the province of operation. Seems like an added expence, as well it is subjected to Canada's corporate laws, just seems easier and less costly to start in Canada. Is the Court of Chancery in Delaware worth the added costs and administration. If you know about this I sure could use some advise. Also, I hardly make enough per year to feed the people in my family, taxes are not really a concern at this point.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:20 PM
I cannot speak to Scotts decisions his needs were different then mine, I understand why he did it there. I did mine here, where I live in the province. My articles of incorporation are unrestricted, the Directors of my corporation have complete discretionary power to a do as they see fit. The officers follow those orders. The trustee = corporation, has a multi faceted role as , currency exchange, holding company and dally operations. All accounted for under a charter by the officers who report to the directors only.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:21 PM
I cannot give advise. I am unqualified in your jurisdiction.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:25 PM
thanks Bob, no liabilities for you, just shootin the shit. I have been sitting on the pot , so to speak, on this for a while, time to move forward. Confident that the lien must be done, and delving into 2 jurisdictions is a bit more intimidating.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:29 PM
You are going into your own private jurisdiction, fuck them. The fear will leave thru comprehension and action. Which leads to understanding and a fearless way of living. You are creating a license of a different kind with a private charter. Accounting and surety are placed with some one you trust. There is no fear in a trust� It is something to know. :-) It was a complete surprise to me.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:31 PM
ok, I get that I am in the private then, but i currently understand that the corp. is not, it must follow commercial law.


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:37 PM
this is, i believe, how one "isolates (themselves) in Admiralty?


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:39 PM
Caveat- For the following posts to make things clear when referring to: I, me and my and you in this example are the person we trust, the corporate voice, if you will: You have to exchange the currency, it is licensed via charter, surety lies with the trustee. You accept payments via check and or credits or legal tender and deposit it only in private bank, the trustee. You then allocate resources to deal with things, privately. You pay your guys in private corporate currency and the trustees uses the legal tender to exchange under private license. The trustee pays taxes and all that jazz. Money of exchange. (That should feck up the free tards.) :-)


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:45 PM
right, understood (sort of) I am behind you one step here, and curious about how operating the public corp. (say from delaware) in A provincial jurisdiction would work, or are you saying the corp. has no obligations to CANADA?


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:45 PM
My "beliefs" are hard to get over here


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:46 PM
Ok I am gone for a bit. Oh it is a admin zone of Canada, an embossed seal is a very powerful tool. ;-)


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:46 PM
thanks bob!


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:49 PM
sorry, My corp is Of Canada, Deleware is different Kettle of fish, Scott and his other trust grantors, waived any benefit under the 1982 constitution. do not quote me on that part. It is what I recall at this time.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:52 PM
You are not dodging surety and doing freeman shit, you are establishing a competent jurisdiction of your own. Which utilizes liens effectively to keep things in private.


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August le Blanc

Feb 10, 2014 4:52 PM
ttyl


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Tommy Atherton

Feb 10, 2014 4:54 PM
yeah, learning to operate within what is makes sense to me, fighting the established rules of commerce is likely to get you a size 9 poop shoot.


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Pete Daoust

Jul 14, 2015 12:01 AM
Tommy Atherton....still reading ? :/


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Anibal Jose Baez

Jul 14, 2015 8:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZGayaTPQ4I


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Pete Daoust

Jul 15, 2015 2:02 AM
Maybe he's caught in a "brain enigma" :D


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Scott Duncan

Jul 15, 2015 4:30 PM
I think I've inadvertently taught all of you to be horribe people :D My work is done :D <3 Peace <3


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