Hi guys, thanks for letting me join this group!! Does anyone know if there is a way to get rid of a requirement to pay issued by CRA? Or do you have to take them to Federal Court to have it removed?
Thanks
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Stuart Stone
Who is YOU?
If YOU is the person in your pocket (LAURA BIRD), then you (Laura Bird) may wish to administrate that debt on their behalf, as the Sole Authorised Administrator for the person LAURA BIRD
Laura Bird
I did do an AFV but maybe the process wasn't correct? I issued it to the bank of Canada and a copy to CRA.
Laura Bird
Also I heard they were just ignoring AFV's right now, is this true?
T?lis B?auns
What was your process ? step by step
Laura Bird
I sent a Notice Letter citing the Bill of Exchange and a supreme court ruling, I did the Acceptance on the Bill and then I included a Promissory Note.
Laura Bird
Sent certified mail
Pete Daoust
? :-\
Laura Bird
Do you guys have a process that has been working?
Pete Daoust
Do you have, the person you happen to have in your pocket, its birth date Laura ?
Laura Bird
Yes
Pete Daoust
And ??...how many days is it, after your birth ?
Laura Bird
You mean the date the BC was issued? If so 4 days
Pete Daoust
I mean the birth date of the person.....
Pete Daoust
DO you have a person Laura Bird ?
Laura Bird
Yes the birth date of the person is Feb. 18, 1977
Pete Daoust
So Laura, the woman, were born on Feb the 14th ? :D
Laura Bird
Sorry, Feb 18 is when the woman was born and the person was created on the 22
Pete Daoust
Fuck, it gets confusing :(
Where have you seen that the PERSON was born on the 22nd ? .....do you have solid proof of this ?
Laura Bird
BC was issued on the 22
Pete Daoust
Where does it say that ?
Laura Bird
I will get the BC
Laura Bird
Ok so date of birth is Feb. 18, and the date of registration is actually Feb. 25
Pete Daoust
So it's 7 days :D
Laura Bird
Yes
Pete Daoust
Feb. the 25th, a person was created, the creator is the government, right ?
Laura Bird
Yes
Pete Daoust
And that person is not you, well, it would be crazy to BELIEVE such of thing, you can't be something that was created 7 days after you....right ?
Laura Bird
Exactly
Pete Daoust
Don't get me wrong here, If you want to "be" that person, no one will argue with it, I garantee that :D
But that would be "crazy" .... :D
Laura Bird
Ya for sure, I just thought we couldn't administrate the person
Laura Bird
Cause it's theirs
Pete Daoust
Well, it's in YOUR pocket......I know it's theirs, but they've put it in your pocket..... :/
Pete Daoust
Do you have a $5 bill in your pocket as we speak ?
Laura Bird
no just a $20, lol
Pete Daoust
:D .... do you OWN that thing ?
Laura Bird
not reallly, temporarily i guess
Pete Daoust
The $20 bill is not your's, it's their's......but since you HAVE it in your pocket, who the fuck will ADMINISTRATE that thing ? :)
Laura Bird
TRUE
Pete Daoust
Same with "THE PERSON"
Pete Daoust
Now, CRA will need to KNOW, who you are do you have a BILL from them, as we speak ?
Laura Bird
ok, I totally get that but I guess I was under the impression we couldn't administrate the person. However maybe I've been doing it wrong!!!
Pete Daoust
I "have" that person, and I am THE SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for it
And NO ONE objected to this so far :D
Laura Bird
OK, and have you guys had success with this?
Pete Daoust
With what ?? :/
Laura Bird
Cause I have never met anyone who has actually had success with an AFV.
Pete Daoust
What is it you would like to have SUCCESS with ? :/
Pete Daoust
We don't do AFV shit in here :/
Laura Bird
getting CRA to accept payment
Pete Daoust
what payment ?
Brad Tullar
Americas Funniest videos??
Pete Daoust
:D
Laura Bird
ok so what do you guys do with their bill?
Pete Daoust
You are trying to go too fast Laura Bird.....
Pete Daoust
do you have a BILL from them, as we speak ?
Laura Bird
yes
Pete Daoust
And to whom this bill is addressed to ?
Lana Dukakis
I need to learn this too Laura :)
Laura Bird
the person
Pete Daoust
And WHO ARE YOU, in regards to that person ? :/
Laura Bird
the authorized administrator
Pete Daoust
The SOLE authorized administrator :)
Pete Daoust
So, I guess there is a debt attached to that bill, and you will have to ADNMINISTRATE that bill.....
Laura Bird
lol, ok so how do I administrate the bill?
Pete Daoust
Good question :D
Pete Daoust
The best to whom that question should be asked is CRA ?? .....I guess :D
Laura Bird
cause i've already told them to fuck off as a Human Being!!!! lol
T?lis B?auns
been there done that -= freeeDUMB
Lana Dukakis
I learned you never want to argue
Pete Daoust
Dear CRA (Or whoever is sending a public debt to the person you happen to have in your pocket)
I am the Sole Authorized Administrator, for the PERSON you�ve created when I was 16 days old, and named PIERRE DAOUST, and has the inscription number 1196604XXXXXX
I choose to NOT buy back ANY public Debt addressed to that PERSON
If me, or anyone else, have lead you to believe, that I am one of your "employee", and/or "agent", and/or "the queen" and/or, an organization, and/or, a "slave, that would be a MISTAKE, please forgive me.
Please, dear Canadian Revenue Agency, or Quebec Revenus Agency (or others) HELP me on administrating this debt via that person's surety, which is the Bank of Canada
You have 30 days to reply, or I will UNDERSTAND that this debt is not in existence anymore.
With LOVE
BY:_______________________________
Sole Authorized Administrator
~Pierre.
Lana Dukakis
With LOVE lol
Pete Daoust
Pete Daoust
Bill of Exchange.
Here�s HOW I do it, and WHY�..
The first step is definitely to open the mailbox, now, that mailbox is not even MY mailbox if I really THINK about it, it�s the person named PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX is mailbox, I just happen to be the SOLE authorized ADMINISTRATOR for this person right ?
So, as a good administrator, I have the key for this mailbox, and I go there EVERYDAY.
Anyway, I open the mailbox, and HA HA�!!!!.....a bill of exchange is in it
Now, this Bill of Exchange is addressed to the person I happen to be the SOLE authorized administrator�.it is addressed to PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, so, as the SOLE authorized administrator, I have to open that envelop and TAKE CARE of that matter.
So let say the City of Montreal sent to PIERRE DAOUST this bill of exchange, and it says on it $295.00, now, WHO owe $295 to the City of Montreal ?, yes, it�s PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX.
Now, what do I do with this, mmhhh, �..I see 2 choices.
1). I can, yes �ME�, I can buy back this debt, and use some Bank Notes and go to the post office to buy a money-order and send it to the City of Montreal, and they will balance their book with this. I can NOT send the Bank Notes (cash) to them, they won�t ACCEPT it, I wonder WHY ?
2). I can DISCHARGE this debt for PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, because the truth is that this bill of exchange has been commenced by the City of Montreal for PIERRE DAOUST, because they ASSUME that PIERRE DAOUST is too ignorant to do it, so they commenced it��they are the BENEFICIARY party to this bill of exchange, and PIERRE DAOUST is the DRAWER party to this bill of exchange.
Now, we are missing one party, because a bill of exchange has 3 parties, the BENEFICIARY, the DRAWER and the DRAWEE.
WHO is the drawee for this bill of exchange ?.....I need to find where is the SURETY of this PERSON named PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, and when I�ll find that, I will be able to KNOW who is the drawee.
Drawee: The party on which an order for the payment of money is drawn.
Drawer: One that draws, especially one that draws an order for the payment of money.
I will NOT explaine this one in details, but I have very good reasons to believe that the drawee has to be The Bank of Canada, because the SURETY for PIERRE DAOUST is definitely the Government, since they have created PIERRE DAOUST, and on the CERTIFICATE that prove its creation, the signature is the government signature, so therefor, the SURETY, and since the Bank of Canada is the government�s bank, I am sure that the ORIGINAL certificate of PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, is sitting in their building. So the DRAWEE is the Bank of Canada.
So, as one of the BEST sole authorized administrator in town, Here is HOW I do it.
I ask for REMITTANCE advices from the beneficiary who sent this thing to PIERRE DAOUST, and so far, ALL OF THEM stayed SILENT....none of them answered me
So at one point....
I turn this Bill of Exchange on the Private side (Back), and I take out my STAMPS
The first stamp says:
ACCEPTED BY:______________ (I sign there)
The 2nd stamps say: DATE
The third says: ACCOUNT NO. 26X-XXX-XXX or 119XXXXXXXXXXX
And the fourth says: Bill of Exchange ACT (1985)
I have good reasons to believe that this COMPLETE that bill of exchange, turn it into a �check� and discharge the debt.
I include a small one page letter with it giving EXPLAINATION on what I�m doing.
I send the Bill of exchange COMPLETE to the bank of Canada registered mail, and one copy to the benefiary, in this case, City of Montreal, to make sure they KNOW I have done my duty
I have Administrated, completed, and send for discharge, 13 bill of exchange so far for PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX
You can add any complicated stuff you may want to this.....it's your choice, or you can keep it simple.....
I prefer simple, but I know some of you like sexy complicated shit....it's up to you
And remember.....ALL OF THIS is NOT my fault :P
Laura Bird
ok makes sense, so how long do you give them before you take it to the private side? Cause they have a freeze on my accounts!!
Pete Daoust
What accounts ?....they are the PERSON'S accounts, not your's :D
Laura Bird
your right
T?lis B?auns
Ding! www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UbbFoEAE1I
Pete Daoust
I am always right !! :D
Oh wait, that's not me....sorry :/ hummm
Laura Bird
lol
Pete Daoust
You can give them 10 to 30 days Laura Bird, your choice...
Laura Bird
ok, so in your experience what do they usually do?
Pete Daoust
They don't do ....they jam.... :D
Laura Bird
so would they remove the requirement to pay?
Pete Daoust
You will do that :D
Pete Daoust
And when that bill will be completed, and returned to them, this shit will be over.....
Brad Tullar
Its funny when i get a check every week from my job it looks just like the bills of exchange the person gets in the mailbox
Lana Dukakis
Pete What if they don't send a bill and the just send a statement and say that the statement is a statement of the bill?
Lana Dukakis
^^ Not CRA. Just a company.
Pete Daoust
Be more specific Lana Dukakis, no BILL = NO debt
David Vilaca
Lana Dukakis, if the bill was properly administrated (private side) and returned to sender via Pete Daoust's instructions and they fail to return that Administered Bill then the matter is settled.
Lana Dukakis
I have a hydro bill. But the only part that says bill is in a box. From what I am understanding the bill is not on that page. It says Bill Issue Date in a box. In that box is an all caps name but no amount. Just the words Bill Issue Date: Jan 31, 2014, but since it's not on that page and nothing on that page says BILL, I'm guessing it's not a bill.
Lana Dukakis
I mean my all caps name recieved a "hydro bill"
David Vilaca
bottom portion with the tear line, says return this with check, tear that off as that is what you Administrate
Lana Dukakis
Yes. Return this portion with payment.
Pete Daoust
The remittence is the bottom portion, that is a INCOMPLETE check, or an incohate instrument......you need to complete that part
Pete Daoust
That's how I do it :)
David Vilaca
That is your coupon Lana, filp that shit to tha back side and administrate
Lana Dukakis
:D
David Vilaca
Mail remittence is the coupon. look at it that way
Pete Daoust
They are sending a check, you just need to complete it :D
Lana Dukakis
Do I put the amount in the box that says"Amount Paid: "?
Lana Dukakis
on the front?
Pete Daoust
Is there an AMOUNT already written on the front somewhere ?
Lana Dukakis
Yes. Amount Due: $310.68
Pete Daoust
So don't put any amount there.....there is already an amount :D
Lana Dukakis
I'm behind and they say they are going to cut off my hydro if I don't get caught up.
Pete Daoust
About time you administrate !!! :P
Lana Dukakis
I put that amount in the box and send it off after doing what you did on the back and thats it. The administration of that bill is over?
David Vilaca
DONT TOUCH THE FRONT
David Vilaca
That is the public side and for the Bank of Canada to settle
Lana Dukakis
Ok. Just the back as the Captain instructed. Got it.
Pete Daoust
Blonde girls :D
David Vilaca
and french tokens
Pete Daoust
What's that thing Brad Tullar ?
Lana Dukakis
Pete "I include a small one page letter with it giving EXPLAINATION on what I�m doing." Hi I am the Sole administrator for LANA DUKAKIS. I understand that the person i administrate which is owned by you owes money or needs to make a payment. I have completed the cheque. Please honour it and pay this hydro company from the account you own which I administrate. Thanks. LOVE Lana. Do I have to give them any further instructions. Of course I'd clean this up a bit. Are there any more important things I need to tell them to do or have to explain?
Brad Tullar
Its the not mine file it shows on the front the amount written in
Pete Daoust
Please honour it and pay this hydro company
It would be more something like, Please honour it and DISCHARGE this hydro company DEBT.
:D
David Vilaca
Lana Dukakis, in the bills of exchange, it's a mail remittence
Lana Dukakis
DISHARGE. OK Got it. Thanks! :)
Pete Daoust
OK, stop posting shit Brad Tullar please.......this link dosen't work
Brad Tullar
sorry
Pete Daoust
You can't PAY a debt, you can only DISCHARGE it, or BUY it back :)
David Vilaca
Tell them you have no legal tender only Doge, lol
Lana Dukakis
(Y)
Pete Daoust
Say it again folks......YOU CAN'T PAY A DEBT, You can only get that thing discharged via the person's surety.......or you can BUY BACK that sucker :D
Pete Daoust
AGAIN.....come on... ALL TOGETHER :D
YOU CAN'T PAY A DEBT, You can only get that thing discharged via the person's surety.......or you can BUY BACK that sucker
Pete Daoust
Helloossss !!!!! :D
Lana Dukakis
I can only BUY debt or DISCHARGE. I can't pay a debt.
Lana Dukakis
:D
Pete Daoust
BUY BACK.....gggggrrrrrrrrr
Lana Dukakis
BUY BACK.
Pete Daoust
You are really blonde ?? :D
Lana Dukakis
No. I dye it. But when I was younger it was blonde. Now it's more brown. :P
David Vilaca
if you attach a check you bought the debt
Pete Daoust
You bought BACK the debt... :(
David Vilaca
no room for derps sorry Captain.
Lana Dukakis
Got it. I BOUGHT BACK debt before I came here. Now I DISCHARGE DEBT for the person as the SOLE ADMINISTRATOR.
Pete Daoust
YOU ADMINISTRATE DEBT......the SURETY discharge it... :(
Pete Daoust
What the fuck is wrong with you guys ??? ?
Pete Daoust
Scott.....SSSSCCCCOOOTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!! help !! ?
Lana Dukakis
Instructions: As the SURETY for the NAME, please discharge this debt. Thank you.
Pete Daoust
:)
Lana Dukakis
:)
Pete Daoust
As the surety for that person, would be less fredumbstyle though :D
Pete Daoust
It's not a NAME it's a fucking PERSON :P
Lana Dukakis
I get that too. The PERSON can have any NAME. See: brown hair. lol
Lana Dukakis
Thanks.
Pete Daoust
Stop saying the NAME, you look stupid when you do that........imagine to them.......if you say it like this, they'll think Robert Menard showed you that stuff :D
Pete Daoust
Oh, that wasen't nice.....soryy :(
Lana Dukakis
I tried to learn off him and others for a couple of years now. Captain Pete cleared things up and taught me it in about an hour. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. But I'm happy to have learned it though.
Lana Dukakis
FINALLY!!!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! :) :D :P
Pete Daoust
an hour.. ???....fuck, that was fast :D
David Vilaca
Elmira time
Lana Dukakis
Time flies when your having fun!
Pete Daoust
This shit is really not complicated Lana Dukakis, if it is, there has to be a LAWYER not far, and/or a crook, and/or a LIAR :D
Pete Daoust
Are you having fun Lana Dukakis ??....you haven't seen.......oh, never mind that :/
Laura Bird
sorry guys, had to step out. Thanks you very much Pete for your help!!!
Pete Daoust
Come on David Vilaca, we were having fun, stop this complicated shit please :D
Lana Dukakis
You make it so simple Pete:. They go on about all kinds of stuff and don't get to the bottom of it. You break it apart for us. (Y)
Lana Dukakis
They go on about God and who owns the rivers and on and on and on.
Pete Daoust
I know, I have seen them.....not for long though, I said to myself......what the fuck these guys are smoking for fuck sakes........and then I asked a few questions and BANG.....they've asked for MONEY.......then I knew they were crooks :D
Lana Dukakis
I feel like one weight has been lifted off my shoulders! Knowledge is power. :D
Pete Daoust
I feel the same, everytime I pick up a bill, in PIERRE DAOUST's mailbox, with a PUBLIC debt attached to it :D
Muhahahahahaha!!!!!!
Pete Daoust
I do NOT buy BACK public debts no more :P
Lana Dukakis
lol. You administrate the shit out of that thing!
Pete Daoust
I am one heck of a fucking good administrator :D
Laura Bird
So they haven't cut your power yet!!! lol
Pete Daoust
Nope.....that would be illegal, its been 22 months now,
Laura Bird
holy crap, thats awesome!!!
Pete Daoust
Sorry, 20 months....or 21... fuck
Laura Bird
lol
Lana Dukakis
I'm getting it. It's illegal because Pete had them disharge the debt. If it's discharged and there is no debt how can they cut off the power?
Laura Bird
Just like if I have them discharge the Requirement to Pay and they don't they are liable!!!
Pete Daoust
Read carefully that post up there Laura Bird, and change city of montreal with CRA........
Lana Dukakis
Just because I am Greek doesn't mean I have to take it up the ass! LOL
Pete Daoust
o.O
Lana Dukakis
Anyways. I'm so happy! I have to go to bed. Off to have a hot tea and bath and great dreams. Thanks again!
Pete Daoust
I am a very visual type Lana Dukakis, please avoid these sayings :D
Lana Dukakis
Goodnight Captain. :P
Pete Daoust
Yeah !!!.....easy to say :P
Lana Dukakis
At least not from the corporations. :P
Pete Daoust
Fuck.... :D
Laura Bird
One more question Pete, does the bill have to be an original or can it be a copy? Just because I already sent the original and did it wrong.
Pete Daoust
:D .....call them, and tell them......HEY, can you send another one ??
I think I have made a MISTAKE on the one I have sent to you, so please FORGIVE ME, and send me another one
With Love
BY:______________________________
Sole Authorized Administrator for LAURA BIRD
Pete Daoust
And yes, I am dead serious Laura Bird ;)
Laura Bird
oh ok perfect, I will call them first thing in the morning!!!
Pete Daoust
I think I have made a MISTAKE on the one I have sent to you, so please FORGIVE ME, and send me another one
Pete Daoust
These are extremely important Laura Bird ^^^^
Laura Bird
ok, thanks again!!
T?lis B?auns
everyone makes mistakes, don't they? forgive and you get
Pete Daoust
But you have to admit the mistake, and ASK for foregiveness :)
Laura Bird
Just to let you know Pete I am downloading the Dogecoin but it is taking forever to sync. I live in the country and have slow internet
Pete Daoust
Why is it country = slow everything ? :/
Laura Bird
Slow Pace!!!
Pete Daoust
But I am happy you are doing it Laura Bird, ;)
Laura Bird
just saw your post, what are these ^^^^
Pete Daoust
Is to point up.....to show the post up
Laura Bird
oh, lol
Laura Bird
Ya I'm beginning to see that, they must forgive
Pete Daoust
I wanted to emphasis on the fact that this was very important, when you'll contact them to get ANOTHER bill :)
I think I have made a MISTAKE on the one I have sent to you, so please FORGIVE ME, and send me another one
Laura Bird
Got it
Pete Daoust
Ok, good night every one !!! :)
Laura Bird
Good night and thanks again for your help!!
T?lis B?auns
ay, ay Captain, always a pleasure seeing the "awakening" in real time. and tommorrow...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljxIrxKDIh0
Laura Bird
Is the Inscription number in your letter the Certificate number or the Registration number?
Maximus Legis
Haha....Pete Daoust is unquestionably The Archetype Administrator !
August le Blanc
I never received any notifications from this thread � :-P
My settings are set to get notifications.
Did faceook do something again? There used to be get notification buttons on all the things, now there are not.
All I see now is the group notifications at the top of the group page, there is no more *get notifications* button on the top of the threads�
.
Pete Daoust
Haaa....shut up Bobis :D
David Vilaca
same here Bobis Youruncle, no option to follow a thread and i get no notifications for posts in crypto, tender for law and admin of the person.
August le Blanc
No.
:-D
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
You get notifications if you have commented.
Chris Evan
Berta, I think FB is messing with us because I don't and never got notifications from the Admin page. The rest, yes, but not the Admin page for some reason
Pete Daoust
Haaa.....come on Chris, you with your constipancy theories :P
Chris Evan
No...it really doesn't notify me! I tried everything! To keep up, I have to keep refreshing the page. Its the only one
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
No, you get the little `red`notifications on the top when you have commented or someone tags you. These notifications can be emailed to you as well.
Otherwise, on the left hand list of your shit, beside TFL it will show a number which are posts, etc.
Laura Bird
Hey Pete, Is the Inscription number in your letter the Certificate number or the Registration number on the BC?
Pete Daoust
Here, in Quebec, it's called the INSCRIPTION number......I have no idea what's it call in Ontario, ask Gail Marie ... :)
Laura Bird
ok thanks
Rodrigo Dan Darius
Pete, is administering the person still available?? became private group?
Pete Daoust
PM me your email address, I will invite you into it....
Rodrigo Dan Darius
thanks
Rodrigo Dan Darius
question: this seems potentially dangerous. what would stop a person from going wild with adminstration??
Pete Daoust
Like ?? :/
Pete Daoust
How can a PERSON goes wild ? :/
Rodrigo Dan Darius
well first thought that came. was mortgages. but i dont know much about them actually
Pete Daoust
Like what, how could I start administrating mortgage in a WILD way ?
Rodrigo Dan Darius
well doesnt this smell like A4V stuff. then giving people some sort of license spend like crazy. educate please.
Pete Daoust
If some folks are crazy, it's certainly not my fault :(
And "TRUST" me, if I do crazy stuff, crazy stuff will happen to me :D
And a mortgage is NOT a PUBLIC debt, no one have forced on anyone a mortgage........you have to SIGN a contract to get one of these.....
Rodrigo Dan Darius
were my utility bills forced on to me?
Pete Daoust
I don't know !!....were they ? :/
Rodrigo Dan Darius
hmm..
Rodrigo Dan Darius
perhaps contracts that require a PERSON??
Pete Daoust
Of course....
Rodrigo Dan Darius
alrighty..
Janick Paquette
But when you apply for a school loan ... you sign! But it's a public debt! Isn't it? :/
Janick Paquette
Bobis, Chris, same here...no more notifications... :/
August le Blanc
Everytime you sign you are creating the value.
Jo Xappie
Pete Daoust,would you include a certified copy of the BC with the administered Back side of the tender?
Pete Daoust
I did that once so far, with a fucktard beneficiary
Jo Xappie
they're all fucktards
Pete Daoust
not CRA, and not QRA.....they know ;-)
Jo Xappie
:)
Jo Xappie
what they know they're fucktards?
Isaiah Whitney
The IRS knows too! ;)
Janick Paquette
And what happened Pete?
Pete Daoust
nothing Paquette Janick.....
Lana Dukakis
Is pretty much all members here discharging their utility debts and having the same success as you Pete?
Chris Evan
PUBLIC debts. INTERNAL debts of the person. And why do you ask Lana?
Pete Daoust
I have no idea, and I have no idea about me, having SUCCESS......this is not a successful thing, I am just doing what the LAW tells me I can do......nothing very special Lana Dukakis.....and so far, I had to face confusion, controversy, stupidity, ignorance and SILENCE.....from all the administration process I have done......
Pete Daoust
It is a very simple thing to do Lana Dukakis, but not necessary an easy thing to do......you will face RESISTANCE........and you will have to STAND on your ground ;)
Lana Dukakis
I'm looking through threads and I don't see any comments so far of anyone else saying that they are administering debts the way Pete does and saying they have had the same success. I am ready to do it but I'm a scared and would be encouraged to hear that pretty much everyone is doing it and has succeeded in administrating their debts in the same way. I know things work a bit different in Quebec and I'm from Ontario. How many from Ontario are succeeding and having this administrative process recognized and accepted as payment. I spoke to hydro about me not being the person on their bill. They said if LANA DUKAKIS is not a person who wants hydro they can cut my hydro service off. I don't want my service cut off and have to turn it on again. There are a lot of extra charges for that. They said they would need a large deposit as well which I can't afford if they turn the hydro off. I guess I would just like to be assured that there are lots of people doing this in Ontario. :)
Lana Dukakis
^^ I realize talk is cheap and that they will say anything off the record and not in writing and are likely just trying to intimidate me.
Pete Daoust
That's the whole point Lana Dukakis, FEAR.......this system want you to be in FEAR mode, all the time........ :D
Lana Dukakis
I make a portion of my money babysitting. If my hydro is off the parents won't let me babysit their kids obviously. If I miss out on that money, I won't have enough bus fare to get to my other work. And then I wouldn't be able to pay my rent. Also my roomate is concerned as well and wanted me to be sure that people are doing this in Ontario.
Pete Daoust
Until you DECIDE that "FEAR NO MORE" :P
August le Blanc
Learning and Knowledge accompanied by action removes the fear. Knowing it, gives you the ability to stand for it.
That comes from study and application, which you have to do for yourself.
Lana Dukakis
I'm scared. It's true Pete. I need apply this to move forward I realize and I also need to be able to pay my rent, eat, and have electricity. I don't want to be homeless and right and have to try to get a remedy after all of that. I hope that doesn't sound too whimpy. :(
Lana Dukakis
Are you discharging your person's hydro debts Bobis?
August le Blanc
There is no Remedy, that is in the past, administrating the person in your back pocket, is the present, lose the freeman state of mind. That may help.
August le Blanc
No, I am fortunate enough, not to have those, I am administrating something else, in private.
Pete Daoust
I spoke to hydro about me not being the person on their bill... :D
They said if LANA DUKAKIS is not a person who wants hydro they can cut my hydro service off. :D
There is something not right in this......of course LANA DUKAKIS is a freaking person :D
Hahahahaha!!!!!
Pete Daoust
That's ANOTHER thing I realized in this group........I teach you something, and you do the exact opposite :D
HAHAHAHA!!!!!
Lana Dukakis
I feel like a scared rabbit that doesn't want to go to far away from my safe rabbit hole. I'm going to get another part time job to get me better situated financially so that if they do cut off my hydro I can afford to pay to have it turned on right away. Then I'll do this. I need a plan B just in case. Now I don't have a plan B ready to go.
Chris Evan
Plan B ensures Pla A will fail. History shows us that
Pete Daoust
OK, Lana Dukakis, ......Have you ever sent a registered mail letter ? :/
Lana Dukakis
Are you discharging your hydro bills Chris? No Pete. Not yet.
Pete Daoust
OK, you've never sent a registered mail letter, is that something that scares you to do ?
Chris Evan
I don't know....they won't answer me.
Pete Daoust
Lana Dukakis, please answer fast, I will have to go in 10 minutes... :)
Lana Dukakis
No. Not having a place, or food is what scares me and having my furniture in a snow bank with no place to to put it or no money for a truck to get it to my friend's to store. I don't want to be a burden on my friends. I think most are likely fairweather friends. They are friends as long as I don't ask too much of them. :(
Lana Dukakis
I guess that's the same for most of us.
Pete Daoust
Focus here Lana Dukakis... :)
OK, you've never sent a registered mail letter, is that something that scares you to do ?
Pete Daoust
You answered NO, correct ?
Lana Dukakis
No. :)
Lana Dukakis
Yes i answered No. lol
Pete Daoust
Just make a nice letter to Hydro, and tell them who you are, what you've learned, and ASK them if it's RIGHT..... and post that letter here, so we can help... :)
Lana Dukakis
One more important point maybe. When I called hydro I was passed onto a supervisor. When I told them I was the sole administrator for LANA they said that they needed a letter confirming I had power of attorney to administrate for LANA since I am not LANA. :( Any ideas about how to deal with that?
Lana Dukakis
Ok. Will do that tonight Pete. I'll post it about 9:00pm when I get back from work. :)
Gail Marie
I've administrated to hydro, and havent heard anything back from them, I think my first signed boe to them was in November. When I get my new bill though it still shows the accumulating balance
Gail Marie
Enbridge Gas, that is another story lol
Lana Dukakis
How do you mean Gail?
Gail Marie
Enbridge sicked their lawyer on me....who never presented proof of standing to me and got very frustrated by me lol. They sent me a notice of collections recently for the alleged debt (which was paid by signed boe's) that is what I'm dealing with at this time
Tommy Atherton
Here's a concern ive had to complicate things. Scott describes "charges" often being made to a newly created person/entity. I have looked at statements coming my way, and the name does not appear as does the name for the person on the B/C. Is it possible we are being contacted for surety for a person we have no authority to Administrate for? or am i being retarded again?
Gail Marie
None of these companies will say to you ...Yes Lana, so glad you are aware of this, look forward to your signed BOE.
Gail Marie
The Enbridge lawyer even went so far as to say that the Bills of Exchange act has nothing to do with this....but mead vs mead does ....I said "are you telling me Enbridge Gas is not bound by Canadian law?" controversy is all they want to create :/
Tommy Atherton
That is why I agree that clarifying who you are is step 1, and step 2 is to clarify what person you can administrate for. Step 3: clarify what person the Statement is being sent to. Then one can operate at least knowing what parties are involved.
Gail Marie
Yes the lawyer is a 3rd party interloper, I haven't heard from him since I replied to him with a fee schedule for my time.
Lana Dukakis
I was wanting to start a business. Now I am wondering, if I was to start a business and someone paid me with a completed cheque and I forwarded it the bank of Canada, would they send me a cheque for the amount on the bill? Or is this for utilities and bills with a 96 in the bottom corner?
Lana Dukakis
LOL
Gail Marie
This administrating often feels like a full time business in itself lol
Pete Daoust
I would pick "being retarded again" Tommy Atherton :D
Maximus Legis
Gail Marie They are thieves of the most precious thing in your life TIME !
Gail Marie
THAT Maximus Legis is what keeps me going, once you start there is no going back :/ :)
Janick Paquette
Lana, I don't think they can cut your electricity during winter.
So you have a few more months to try this and gain confidence in what Pete is telling you to do. :D
Gail Marie
By nature, I don't like these types of games, but its also my nature that is pushing me forward head on into these games lol
August le Blanc
That is the reason for liening the all caps name and any derivative there of, Tommy Atherton.
So they can no longer create any more debt from it. It puts up a stop sign in commerce, and diverts revenue until the lien is satisfied. The Name game is the basis for it. But you cannot do it, someone you trust does, the corporate person assigned this duty�
Maximus Legis
A lot of it can be ignored, anything without a signature can go straight in the trash, that's what I do. I they say they billed me I tell them I never got a bill, as a true bill is signed.
Gail Marie
8750432 CANADA INC is now dealing with the Enbridge Gas situation :)
Lana Dukakis
I was thinking that its a bit expensive too. I mean if you do this for 4 or 5 bills and each bill gets a response or two and each of those responses have do be dealt wit with registered mail, you could be spending a couple of hundred dollars a month and a whole of of time. They make it so it's almost easier to pay them. But after a while we would have enough form letters on hand. I think eventually it could be just part of the routine. :)
Lana Dukakis
^^ oops not pay. BUY BACK the debt. :(
Gail Marie
That is what they count on, that they will make it difficult and frustrating enough that you will give up and give them what they want....they have all the resources in the world to drag things out. The problem is, through our ignorance and apathy we have ended up where we are with them sucking the life out of everyone and everything
August le Blanc
You are paying them� it is just not paying debt with debt, You are paying with the credit created from the surety attached to the legal person. All with signatures under titles.
Gail Marie
This is not for the faint of heart...but at the same time the experience and learning is very empowering
August le Blanc
They have these laws they were made to accommodate such methods, no body has been using them, until now, The letters enforce these things. They are obligated.
they will just make you jump, but you tell them how high: acting as, operating as, sole authorized surety for these matters.
Janick Paquette
If all this support and argument doesn't reasure you Lana, I don't know what will or could! ;)
Lana Dukakis
Gail Were you the one who was on a ChiefRock Sino General radio show? I think it was about your student loan?
Gail Marie
It was a line of credit, yes, I also received a notice from the court shortly after that interview (actually the exact same day the interview went up) that the bank was suing me lol
Lana Dukakis
This group is GREAT! I HATE facebook. But this group makes it more than bearable! :)
Lana Dukakis
Have you created a trust yet and having it administrated by a corporation in Delaware?
Lana Dukakis
I need to learn about trusts more first but I'm exited to do that.
Gail Marie
yes there is a private trust and corporation that is the trustee for the trust....its registered federally though
Lana Dukakis
When you lien your PERSON and there are financial judgements against or for the PERSON, does the trust get notified and then a cheque arrives to pay off the lien?
Lana Dukakis
Oh, and who places the lien? Is it the trust managed by the corporation or the corporation on behalf of the trust?
Chris Evan
Lana, do you know what makes a TRUST?
Chris Evan
Its when one party has property or rights...well anything, that is put into the care of another. Since the whole system involves Persons, a Person is ENTRUSTED with the care of the person you happen to have in your pocket. The rest of the answers are on this page
Lana Dukakis
I'm not sure. Im guessing from what I remember is a trust occurs when one person trusts another to do something.
August le Blanc
The lien cuts off any financial judgements, if done properly, the trustee, acts as receiver in bankruptcy for this legal person and settles the debt with credit established by the value of the lien.
Proper notice goes out, the interested parties are billed and notified and the check should come in the mail�
Waitng on the mail, Right now.
Chris Evan
Lana, you are in a Common Law Zone. Have you read Weiss' book at least 4 times? That may be the best place to start learning about trusts. Also, Pete is in a Civil Law Zone. He has had a STATUTORY trust set up since 2005 0r 2006.
Lana Dukakis
I haven't read it that many times but I will read it again and again until it all sinks in and I don't even need it to reference. :) I'm young enough to take advantage of this knowledge here for many years to come. :D
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Here Gail... PROPER NOTICE
Chris Evan
Do you know which book I am talking about? How many times have you read it?
Lana Dukakis
Knowing this stuff is like opening pandora's box. You can never turn back.
Chris Evan
And where did you get it?
Pete Daoust
This is what I have, since 2006.
A holding company is a company or firm that owns other companies' outstanding stock. The term usually refers to a company that does not produce goods or services itself; rather, its purpose is to own shares of other companies. Holding companies allow the reduction of risk for the owners and can allow the ownership and control of a number of different companies. In the United States, 80% or more of stock, in voting and value, must be owned before tax consolidation benefits such as tax-free dividends can be claimed.[1]
Sometimes a company intended to be a pure holding company identifies itself as such by adding "Holdings" or "(Holdings)" to its name.
Lana Dukakis
I read it once. I think I got it from Derick. I mean downloaded from his trust page.
Chris Evan
Nope....its not there!
Lana Dukakis
Actually 1 and a 1/2
Chris Evan
There is no way you read it 1.5 times and are asking these questions....what was the book called that you read?
Chris Evan
Where did you find it? Do you have a hard copy?
Lana Dukakis
One second and i'll look. :)
Lana Dukakis
Actually I haven't read it. The Weis trust book is 79 pages and I haven't gotten to that one yet. The one I'm thinking of is about 16 pages. I thought it was by weis.
Lana Dukakis
I have a pdf Would you like me to upload it?
Chris Evan
ok....you HAVE to read it! WE CANNOT give you the answers. You NEED to learn them yourself! The 16 page doc was probably an essay such as Trustees in Commerce (that is only 6 to my recollection though).
Chris Evan
If you haven't spent a solid year of daily learning for 2-4 hours a day, you shouldn't even be asking questions! Have you read the entire content of the gold nuggets? or Scotts articles? You MUST do you own work!!!!
Lana Dukakis
I've been freedumbing it for a couple of years now. I have read lots and have lots of notes. I know that although that approach was wrong I have learned a lot that is useful. At least it was usefull in that I can follow along in here, even if I seem to glaze over about some concepts. But I am committed to learning about trusts, corporations in Delaware, crypto currencies. I even have a friend helping me to create my own ecurrency. :) http://www.coingen.io/#basic
Lana Dukakis
I will put my nose to the grindstone more though. Thanks Chris.
Chris Evan
Lana, I think you are a cop....there I said it!
Lana Dukakis
lol
Pete Daoust
A nice looking cop :D
Lana Dukakis
I have to go to work. I'll see you guys tonight. Time to get my holster on. :)
Pete Daoust
Could you please post a picture, with your holster on ?? :D
Chris Evan
Very nice looking cop....still a cop!
Janick Paquette
You guys.... always thinking with something other than your brain! :/ it's obvious she's here to gather information! duh! It's been obvious for about....300 posts! :/
Chris Evan
I disagree
Janick Paquette
on the amount of the posts? :D
Chris Evan
no...on the fact that Lana isn't a cop!
Janick Paquette
?1? Please inlighten me Chris on:
Chris: I think you are a cop....there I said it!
&
Chris: I disagree...on the fact that Lana is a cop!
:)
August le Blanc
The profile fits, it seems to be something it is not�
I am thinking disgruntled banned thing.
Or something to that effect.
I do not believe the profile and the fact that the name: Robert Cormier, is on the profiles wall with an invite to something or other, does nothing to relieve any suspicions. It is a nice mock up, profile, me thinks, with some stalker pics added, to give an illusion of a young woman.
And yes Janick Paquette we need to be clear.
August le Blanc
With you too� :-(
August le Blanc
I think the question should be:
Do you mean harm by the obfuscation of profiles?
Which I have also done, as a way of gaining understanding to what titles actually are: a means of control.
Not to hide who I am, but to understand, who I am.
August le Blanc
I do not question that, our past conversations in previous threads, do back your statement. You have been of assistance, in coming to insights, Joey Spirit.
It is however, a tangled web at times.
August le Blanc
Yes, and at times that eludes me :-P
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Yah Bobis... that profile is weird...
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Kinda almost a Frizbee move...
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Just sayin'
Chris Evan
nope I don't think it's cornea. I think its a cop
August le Blanc
Freeze Bee meant no harm.
He was just practicing counter intelligence, as he saw it. In practical application, It burned him.
This is a deliberate bait and question thing�
Phillip Prater
I recall a post about coingen on someone's wall.
Pete Daoust
What the fuck you guys are talking about ??? :(
Anibal Jose Baez
Lana. Mack. Tonda. Zag zag. :P
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
:P
Pete Daoust
Maybe I AM a cop ??....who knows ?? ?
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Hey! lubuntu is fantastic! �second machine now :D
Pete Daoust
Is it lubuntu or Ubuntu ?? :/
Pete Daoust
But seriously, you guys would freak out en tabarnak if you would discover that I am a cop :D
? ?
Pete Daoust
Pete the cop ?
T?lis B?auns
c-on/stable on p-a/troll
tthis is a private merchant navy
August le Blanc
You are the cop here. :-)
Others seem to want to slow things down or glean information after a banning�
By lying about who they really are.
You are a real thing, not an imagination of something.
Is it fun Beverly ? ....how much KH/s or MH/s you drill now ?? :)
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Well we've just installed, haven't started any drilling yet...
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Don't wanna drill on an micro$haft box :/
Pete Daoust
Dogecoin is the 2nd most traded crypto-currency, on the 100 crypto-currencies that exist... :)
Janick Paquette
what's the difference between the two?
Cause I wanted to download Ubuntu....
Janick Paquette
I spoke to a programmer about mining with, what Pete had as an equipement, and he said... "Hw must have three screens to fit the three video cards! :/ Does that make sens?
Pete Daoust
No.
Janick Paquette
I love it when you're specific Pete! :D
Pete Daoust
Me too !! :D
David Vilaca
There are many forms of Ubuntu. On the Admirals advice, I used a LTS (long term support) form of Ubuntu with the Xfce interface. 13.10 is beta and worked with the AMD driver package but would crash on launching cgminer. Ubuntu 12.04 (percise pangolin) with the Xfce interface worked first try, found the cards GPU's and joined the pool I directed.
Janick Paquette
Sorry if the question was already answered in the group....I'll read some more then and try to find info there!
I probably read right passed it cause I had no idea what it was when I read it!
Thanks David for your response and the advise! :)
Lana Dukakis
Pete I just got in. I'm working on the two letters to post for your inspection as promised. I'll post them as soon as I am done. :)
Pete Daoust
Ok cop :D
Lana Dukakis
lolz
Neens Jean
I just have to say it...."With LOVE" is the best closing salutation and makes me laugh each time I see it Pete. You have taken on your role with such love and kindness that I cannot for the life of me figure out why they do not respond to your "love letters!" ?
Scott Duncan
Lana Dukakis never did deliver.
Pete Daoust
No, cops are only seeking for JOINDER. They never deliver...I know I must have asked 15 times for surety :D
Isaiah Whitney
She was definitely a cop and not a very effective one either.
Neens Jean
This is another great thread. Does this automatically bump when new comments are added?
Pete Daoust
Yes :/
Neens Jean
Thanks. I am not tech savvy at all and thought David said to just type "bump."
Neens Jean
Is there another group, Pete, that is a private group?
Pete Daoust
Yes.
Anibal Jose Baez
Le surete d' TF;DR!
Pete Daoust
No, that one isn't secret :P
Anibal Jose Baez
Oh!
Neens Jean
I am in that one and am picking up a little from the "translator." Do you post in English in this private group?
Neens Jean
Is there knowledge that I can also learn from in that group or is it duplicate to what is here in TTFL?
Pete Daoust
I am not authorized to answer any questions about this private group. Because it's private :/
Neens Jean
Point taken.
Pete Daoust
Oh fuck, that private group is filled with gold nuggets. But I can't talk about it :/
Anibal Jose Baez
It must be a cheap copy of the Tender for Law. :D
Wait, is Scott in this group? :/
Neens Jean
Oh FUCK...well that sucks for me then doesn't it?
Neens Jean
He cannot answer as it is private :/
Anibal Jose Baez
I am not asking you Neens! :P
Pete Daoust, is Scott in this group?
Pete Daoust
Yes.
Pete Daoust
:/
Anibal Jose Baez
Oh, so no Spics allowed, I see! :P
Neens Jean
I have plenty more threads to dig for golden nuggets here in TTFL. It is just as well that I do not need more on my already overflowing plate of "things to do and read" anyway. Just saw it mentioned and wondered. Thanks.
Pete Daoust
Only a few of us. The Tender for Law administrators, and two others :/
Anibal Jose Baez
Ok.
Pete Daoust
Specials advanced topics...
Anibal Jose Baez
Fuck, I was left behind with all the other morons here, then. Haha!
Pete Daoust
Yes :/
Pete Daoust
Not my fault :/
Pete Daoust
I can't even named the group, to try to avoid as much as possible Agents to sneak in :/
Anibal Jose Baez
Hey, I haven't asked in! :P I know my place.
Chris Evan
Lana Dukakis. I remember those cop boobs! :D
Leigh Collins
Ya, we are at a disadvantage, Neens Jean, without access to these groups and secret groups. How can Pete treat fellow simu-drones this way? ;)
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