I have not been here long and at the risk of being eviscerated by the admiral here I go. Tell them it is your understanding that this property is owned "fee simple absolute" and that you require proof of claim stating otherwise. I would say hey I conditionally accept your offer to fill out these forms after completion of certain conditions. Include full waiver of liability, charge $500 hr to fill out forms etc etc. I hope this approach is not some freedumb shit. I am learning :) I want to know what Scott Duncan says because I need to start filtering out all the bullshit I've heard.

No you are still in the realm of accounting. I wouldn't CHARGE them anything, but I would give NOTICE that your time is billable for responding, should they not return an acceptable answer to your questions. Accounting and surety. That's all you should be focused on.

Am I right to view conditional acceptance as a powerful tool? I don't even have to get into the PERSON with it which makes it simple, correct?

Have you received some bills prior to this thing ? :-\

Indeed! Listen to Pete Daoust.

Did you get a bill or a signed invoice?

Thanks lads. No (bill or invoice) the first letter i received was from th LPT in 2012, I returned it return to sender, with the usual on it. In it they asked me to register my property with them and to estimate the value on my home.

Well thank them for the letter, but send it back with a letter explaining you do not understand and that you require clarification, and until you get clarification, you cannot accept their letter.

what if you have registered property and paid in the past

Then tough shit! :P

hahah

JOINDER!

what about your famous line...what is done can be undone

What has been done can be undone?

Lee Edgely, are you saying you have title to the land?

REALLY? would YOU accept people stiffing you on a lease or other contract? That's Free-dumb shit.

To "undo" it, they'd need to refund your money. What do you think the odds of THAT are?

i have no contract and no lease

I have a mortgage still.

i bought mine cash

Mortgage is a problem.

mortgage is big problem

Regarding bills and or invoices. Anything/everything unsigned is toilet paper as it shows an unwillingness to accept liability.

NO BILL ???... :/ Nothing to administrate if there's no bills ?? :(

You are right Maximus Legis, but it's also lots of fun to administrate toilet paper :D

Ecoboard Panel, lets stay in here, so everyone can profit...... Ecoboard asked: my property tax says TAX NOTICE at the top..i know its not an invoice,,but how would you handle it My answer is: ASK FOR A BILL

Pete you are to Administration what Michael Douglas is/was to Sex Addiction lol.

ALWAYS ask for a BILL.....ALWAYS.....

whats the point to ask for invoice if scott says its pointless as a result of joinder

Sorry for taking my time in replies. Trying to get two kids feed. On the back of this letter they say, notice of estimate, amount payable each year is 225.

Administrate as Bill of Exchange?

If they send you a BILL, you will be able to turn this bill into a check, and send it back to them as remittance.....

Panties...

What panties ? :/

"This is a very serious matter, please send me a bill so it can be taken care of" What I've noticed of myself, looking back is that I've made assumptions that are not to my benefit. I was so programmed to be the debtor that I automatically resigned myself to the idea I owe and negated to hold requests for money to a proper process. "please send me a bill" and "who are you" (especially in the case of liars) are both really awesome requests and using them keeps me from acting on assumptions that may not always be accurate.

understood

Me, talking shit ?? :/

Apologise for last post I misread.

No Pete ignore what I said.

Sounds good Gail Marie. I will send them something similar and see what happens. Thanks everyone :)

Something of interest for y'all... I'm currently administrating the probate process for my mother's will. I needed info from the deed to the property from the solicitor. He e-mailed me stating that my mother held a 99 yr lease that was originally started in 1973. I had to think twice for a second but then realised of course, if the property is registered it's registered to the PERSON thus granting it to the government...

On another note, I'm buying a property and am being told that unless i pay the property tax then the house cant settle. Payments need to be paid to a corporation called the OFFICE OF STATE REVENUE, (Australia). Same rules apply?

Lee, if it came certified Mail it constitutes as an Inchoate accounting instrument & it is a Bill of Exchange & an amendable & negotiable offer to contract.

Sum certain owing is what?? Tax....

Tax= Stamp Duty....

Stamp Duty = FIVE CENT StAmP

Stamp = a fucking stamp Duty= Duly = proper sequence, proper manner = Certified Mail = Time= holder in due course =seventy two hours = Acceptance = International Law / sovereignty = freedumb :-D

Lee...Amend & discharge their TP.....Coz it's all a fiction but if not administrated properly or duly YOU clutch your ankles &/ or Kankles & Pay with fiats

Lee, fiats = debt....so how can a debt discharge a debt?? There is no fucking way it can....also Lee....P.P.S.R.

Money as we know it as is actually trading in the souls of men which is Slavery.....Here's where the bible will be handy for ye

Captain kuntroversey is my game....pissing banker kunts off is my aim..... Death to all banker scum globally

Materially wanting particulars....BoE = buck - o - five :-D

Adam Thomas, What is P.P.S.R? How would I amend it, by getting a BoE back?

Personal, property, security, registry.....website where ye register & lien everything

Thanks Adam Thomas

Just glad I could help is all....you're welcome Lee :-D

Latest update: The Collector General just dipped his fingers in and extracted the cash for the local property tax. He completely ignored my attempts to get a Bill from him! They created a new piece of MAGIC PAPER a couple of months ago, that allows them to just take your money if you do not pay them on time. http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/state-takes-property-tax-from-46000-nonpayers-30443560.html