The Tender For Law

Volume 5

Jan 21, 2014 6:31 PM

Steve Lemieux

Liens on court actions?

I've been pondering the inner workings of our so called justice systems and how they rake in revenue.

It occurred to me that when an order is issued by a MASTER/JUSTICE, the original blue ink signature copy of the order is never given to the "winning" party, whether plaintiff or defendant.

I suspected these are valuable SIGNED negotiable instruments THEY cash in on. What happens in the actual action matters little, as all they are after are those signed judgements. Who knows what is really going on there, but I'd sure like know.

With that said, is it possible to get THEM to cough up the signed ORIGINAL order?

What is it true value? Is it a security someone could use to setoff accounts with? I doubt you cash it in at your local bank..

It's easy to get lost in the possibilities.

So let's say a particular entity has a security agreement for large sums of "money" owing from a certain legal person and has gone ahead and gave the world public notice of that security interest VIA a lien registered.

Could the interest holder not lien ANY court action involving the respective legal person whether that person was plaintiff or defendant in said action?

Would the lien holder not have a CLAIM to ALL funds generated from the commercial energy behind the legal person? Who could claim a paramount interest to the secured creditor? What proof would they have? None, I would suspect...

So a civil or criminal action gets a lien slammed against it - What happens? Does it affect the outcome of the action? For who? Why?

;)

Thoughts? Scott - care to comment?

Read Comments

Gail Marie

in the case of a duly authorized trustee corp, holding that name, it would be considered public use to have it on a court file, warrant etc wouldn't it.....they would have bylaws in relation to the name in being in the public and only allow it with their written expressed permission?

Gail Marie

the question this brings up for me....say an authorized director for the duly authorized trustee corp is driving performing errands or whatever...gets pulled over...is this director not required a drivers license because they are a trustee of a private trust...or are they required to because they are representing a person?

August le Blanc

The duly authorized trustee corp owns all titles, it would own the vehicle, it would register the vehicle, it would insure the vehicle, it would have an officer on private business, driving the thing. which when stopped could give them the public notice, say something like we are not for hire, and are engaged in the private sector, You have the notice , now can I have your name address and birthdate for this bill you are receiving or let the corp take ticket thru its registration and insurance of vehicle.. and admin after with a void stamp or something like that.

August le Blanc

THE TRUST DOES NO ACTION, IT HOLDS THINGS� IT IS ALWAYS ADMINISTRATED BY DULY AUTHORIZED TRUSTEE CORP VIA CHARTER APPLIED BY OFFICERS OF THE CORP. OFFICERS MUST BE THE ONES TO ACT: ON DIRECTION OF DIRECTORS AS PER CORPORATE CHARTER.

Anibal Jose Baez

If it's private trust property, and you are acting as trustee at the moment of the stop, then have a nice binder with all trust papers, previous notices to "authorities", and authorization from the trust to be "driving". If one gives proper notice to the cops, you should be cleared after a check.

Stuart Stone

Beverly Berta Braakschmack now my question is... can 8903857 Ontario Ltd. get a drivers license?

The private trust holds the licence (of the person)

You, acting in the capacity of trustee, are entitled to use trust property as per your private trustee agreement (in this case the car and the licence).

If/when you are stopped, you show the pirate the trust property (licence) and if a penalty/ticket is issued, the board of trustees (you as a trustee) can determine whether there is any case to answer: eg: injured party, loss etc.

After all, you are only administrating trust assets :D

Anibal Jose Baez

Well, actually if you are acting as trustee at the moment, you don't need to show a "license" from the government, nor show "ID", because you are not "driving", you are conducting a private matter.

If the name was claimed, and liened, is out of commerce. PERIOD. Don't give a fucking name, have a taken name, but don't give that either. You have proof of who you are, and what capacity you are acting under.

Anibal Jose Baez

If you show government ID and/or give a name, you are soliciting goverment services. That's reality.

Trust Law is the highest form of Law. We have to use it, for it's our "remedy". If they don't respect Trust law, then you know it's ok to not respect THEIR trust. You better have guns then.