I am in jury duty selection process today and tomorrow. I am shocked that circumstantial evidence is acceptable here legally.
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Pete Daoust
Where is "here" ?
Libby Patterson
Santa Cruz California
Libby Patterson
They kept saying the word belief to us. I mouthed off what does any of this have to do with belief!
Pete Daoust
Oh, in Muricka, nothing really surprises me :D
Libby Patterson
I asked yhe judge where that law came from and he pulled out a book called judges directions to jurors.
Pete Daoust
Scott, we have a JURY here, that can be interesting ?? :)
Pete Daoust
Derek, Libby Patterson is pretty deep in club house rules, I suppose ?? :/
Brad Tullar
Civil matter?
Libby Patterson
i got called in for jury duty. First day. I just downloaded the black's law dictionary last night. lol. we were told we can not discuss the case with anyone, and that we can not do research online.
Libby Patterson
it's a criminal case
Derek Moran
Its funny you mention that Pierre, i too received an offer-to-contract with the PERSON i have for Jury Duty (a 'Jury Notice')...here's what i sent back:
NOTICE OF CONDITIONAL-ACCEPTANCE
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED � WITHOUT PREJUDICE
NOTICE TO AGENT IS NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL � NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL IS NOTICE TO AGENT
The Sheriff of Ontario
Highest governmental-authority of common law on the land
Sheriff�s Office
c/o Provincial Jury Centre
PO Box 666(666?...hmm, that�s rather disturbing � why would they give you guys a PO Box # that is the Mark-of-the-BEAST??), STN A
Oshawa ON L1H 9Z9
I just wanted to let you guys know that I am very much alive-and-well, I have not beene absent from my land and/or estate�I have not perished in �The Great Fire of the sovereign-city-state of London, England of which the Guild the British Accreditation Registry is based from out of�and I have not gone �Lost-at-sea.� I mention this, because I noticed the way my name was spelled in the envelope sent to my home was misspelled; for greater certainty, it was spelled in all-capital-letters. I only bring this up because, section 9.2 of Regulation 181 of the Corporations Act of Ontario states: (2) The name of a corporation shall be set out in an application filed under the Act in block capital letters and with only one space between each word.
That being all said, I would be happy, more than happy, and conditionally-accept the offer to be a part of some other Man, Woman and/or people�s jury �of-their-peerage for them to ensure that they receive a FAIR-and-IMPARTIAL proceeding. However there seems to be a problem in that, it seems only a PERSON can be a part of �jury duty.� And the last time I checked, the Legislation Act 2006 for the PROVINCE OF ONTARIO, taking into account the Maxim-of-law that INCLUDES is based upon, says that a: �person� (is/means) a corporation.
Another problem is that, the offer-to-contract that you guys mailed to my home, has offered in it no consideration to me. One of the elements of a valid contract, is that both sides have to be receiving consideration from each other which ultimately, leads them both to a consensus ad idem. Im actually not looking for any �money�/legal tender, but here are my Terms-and-Conditions:
� (1) I spend no more than 5 business-days in �the jury pool� down at University Avenue in Toronto, Ontario (2) TTC tokens provided for me in order to get back-and-forth to jury-duty from my home (3) a $15 or whatever is the lawful-currency of the day per diem for me to get something to eat-and-drink during meal-breaks (4) meal-breaks (5) the ability to leave if an urgent matter comes up that I must attend to (6) access to view and/or make copies of the court-file and/or any-and-all documents concerning the proceedings I recently made a request for from the Clerk of the Court of Equity in Toronto, Ontario
Thank you, and Happy-belated Labour Day Weekend to you and all in your office,
By: NON ASSUMPSIT, WITHOUT PREJUDICE, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
DerekMoran, Grantor, sole-living-life-In Being-Contingent Beneficiary-of-a-Future Interest, a people
Pete Daoust
:D
Derek Moran
..somehow i knew you would like that Pierre ;)
Pete Daoust
I have been invited too, some years ago, but they've scratched me out during the phone call I gave them :/
Derek Moran
Remember Libby: they sent that 'jury notice' to LIBBY PATTERSON, not, Libby Patterson ;)
Derek Moran
I would be MORE than happy to go- SERIOUSLY Pierre.....just not 'for free,' ive been there before a decade ago, its rather boring...good place to read a Trust Law book in pure silence though :D
Pete Daoust
Derek, she must have signed something, saying that SHE IS THE PERSON.....
Pete Daoust
Well, I had no time for that shit during these years, I had a drug run, and could not go away like that !!! :D
Derek Moran
"I had a drug run" :/
..the election for Mayor in Toronto is in October
Pete Daoust
And when I told them about a criminal record, regarding PIERRE DAOUST, they just said.....never mind SIR :D
Derek Moran
" they just said.....never mind SIR"
..better than- MISTER Daoust, you get to stay!!
Chris Evan
WHO has jury duty?
Libby Patterson
dismissed for cause.
Derek Moran
Libby: "HEY...why the fuck am i here doing this for FREE??"
Judge: "Case dismissed...you can go home now, Libby"
Libby Patterson
no, i was more like, the judge explained that you have to use circumstantial evidence to help decide a case, and i asked him where does the law say that, so he read it from the book directions from judge to jury, and asked me if i could follow his instructions, and i said i would have a hard time convicting based on circumstantial evidence and i gasped the word *ridiculous* outloud in the courtroom when he said it was actually a law.
Derek Moran
You should've asked him- "Are you sure that's the "LAW," or, is that really just a STATUTE-in-an-ACT, which is a BILL- that's a MERCANTILE INSTRUMENT, which is based upon contract/contracting, that ONLY has the FORCE-OF-LAW, by the CONSENT-of-the-GOVERNED though, right?"
Brad Tullar
Wonder what they would say if a jury member asked for his oath
Libby Patterson
<3
David Johansen
conditional acceptance. you get that privelige because you registered to vote. last time i got one, a few years ago i wrote on it, "smoking section only".
Libby Patterson
yes, i registered to vote when i moved last time. fun, well, they dismissed me for cause, and thanked me for my service. for two years, i am done.
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