Pete Daoust

Jan 28, 2015 10:13 PM
What the fuck does that mean ? :/


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Eamonn O Brien

Jan 28, 2015 11:18 PM
You have one right...


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Pete Daoust

Jan 28, 2015 11:22 PM
I have four :P


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 1:29 AM
Do you mean four as in, one from the driver's license, etc... or the four first names written on the Birth Certificat?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 1:41 AM
So, you haven't red article one of the Quebec Charter enough times, I see.... :-\


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 1:46 AM
1. Tout �tre humain a droit � la vie, ainsi qu'� la s�ret�, � l'int�grit� et � la libert� de sa personne. Il poss�de �galement la personnalit� juridique.


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 1:47 AM
I don't see what "four" has to do with this! :/


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 1:47 AM
So, is there four ?


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 1:48 AM
Four different aspects of that person, yes!


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 1:49 AM
:-\ ?


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 1:50 AM
They are talking about ONE person in that article, no? :/


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 1:51 AM
You have the right to your person's - life - surety - integrety - liberty.


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Laurent Vah

Mar 18, 2015 4:51 PM
You Canadians make me laugh sometimes. :D But i don't get it either what the "four" means :/


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Laurent Vah

Mar 18, 2015 4:53 PM
Oh, nevermind. Pete has 4 rights. that's what he means.


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Chris Evan

Mar 18, 2015 4:58 PM
Google Translate says that: "Il poss�de �galement la personnalit� juridique." means "It also has legal personality." Is this correct?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:05 PM
He also have a legal entity....


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Chris Evan

Mar 18, 2015 5:05 PM
ok thanks....and It says this in the Quebec Charter?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:05 PM
Yes.


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Chris Evan

Mar 18, 2015 5:06 PM
ok...hmmmm


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:07 PM
That's what article 1 of the Quebec Charter says.....not my fault ? :/ 1. Tout �tre humain a droit � la vie, ainsi qu'� la s�ret�, � l'int�grit� et � la libert� de sa personne. Il poss�de �galement la personnalit� juridique. :P


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Chris Evan

Mar 18, 2015 5:08 PM
And this Quebec Charter...when was it written?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:11 PM
June 27th 1975, right after the elected fucktards decided to create debts using private banks :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:11 PM
Coincidence ????? :D


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Chris Evan

Mar 18, 2015 5:15 PM
Isn't that also when some strangers invented Special Drawing Rights?


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 5:17 PM
Chris, do you understand what Pete is saying about having four? :/


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Chris Evan

Mar 18, 2015 5:17 PM
No...I can't read in French


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Laurent Vah

Mar 18, 2015 5:17 PM
:D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:17 PM
Having 4 fucking rights.....that's what I am saying :(


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Laurent Vah

Mar 18, 2015 5:18 PM
i posted it like 25 minutes ago :/


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:18 PM
Right to life Right to surety Right to Integrity Right to liberty Shit..... :/


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 5:22 PM
I know Laurent, I was stuck at (they are talking about an amount of persons). But I see that what Eamonn was saying was not a question but an affirmation, so it changes the whole sentence! :/ Sorry for your waste of time guys! :/ And thanks for the clear up! :)


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 5:23 PM
I was reading: You have one, right? :/


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:24 PM
Yes, he told me that, i responded that I have four 4.....that's all.....if Eamonn only have one, well, too bad for him :D


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 5:26 PM
I just can't read very well! :/ That's why it's easier when I talk to someone. The voice translates all the ponctuation that the eyes can sometimes missinterprete or miss!


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 5:28 PM
So you have one (1) person and four (4) rights, right? :D


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Eamonn O Brien

Mar 18, 2015 5:29 PM
You have one right.... The right NOT to contract...


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Eamonn O Brien

Mar 18, 2015 5:30 PM
After that your rights are prescribed by acts and statutes...


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:30 PM
Are you kidding me ? :D


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Lei Gh

Mar 18, 2015 5:33 PM
Do we not have only one right? The right not to contract? I have 11 rights. :O PART I BILL OF RIGHTS Marginal note:Recognition and declaration of rights and freedoms 1. It is hereby recognized and declared that in Canada there have existed and shall continue to exist without discrimination by reason of race, national origin, colour, religion or sex, the following human rights and fundamental freedoms, namely, (a) the right of the individual to life, liberty, security of the person and enjoyment of property, and the right not to be deprived thereof except by due process of law; (b) the right of the individual to equality before the law and the protection of the law; (c) freedom of religion; (d) freedom of speech; (e) freedom of assembly and association; and (f) freedom of the press.


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Eamonn O Brien

Mar 18, 2015 5:33 PM
"You have only ONE unalienable right; The right not to contract. The rest of your rights, are INALIENABLE rights; Meaning they are LEGALLY PRESUMED unless you have implicitly surrendered them. You surrender inalienable rights when you enter commerce, and are a commodity that is bought and sold in commerce." -Scott


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:35 PM
Not in Quebec :P


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 5:38 PM
Could you elaborate Pete Daoust?


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Chris Evan

Mar 18, 2015 5:39 PM
Eamonn, is Ireland a Common Law jurisidiction?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:39 PM
Yes, read article 1 of the Quebec Charter :/


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 5:40 PM
ok, nothing aside that. I read to much into things! :/


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Eamonn O Brien

Mar 18, 2015 5:40 PM
Define "Ireland" Chris... :p


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:41 PM
No, nothing aside that :(


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 5:41 PM
Why complicate things when it can be so simple, right? :/


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:42 PM
Janick, read this.... La Charte des droits et libert�s de la personne est une loi dite � quasi constitutionnelle � adopt�e le 27 juin 1975 par l'Assembl�e nationale du Qu�bec. Elle est entr�e en vigueur le 28 juin 19761. And this..... Une loi quasi constitutionnelle en droit canadien est une loi qui traite d'un sujet constitutionnel, mais qui est adopt�e selon la proc�dure normale d'adoption des lois (aucune forme de modification rigide). Les lois quasi constitutionnelles ont pr�s�ance sur les autres lois � moins que ces derni�res sp�cifient s'appliquer nonobstant la loi quasi constitutionnelle.


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 5:44 PM
In Canada, the term quasi-constitutional is used for laws which remain paramount even when subsequent statutes, which contradict them, are enacted by the same legislature. This is the reverse of the normal practice, under which newer laws trump any contradictory provisions in any older statute.


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Janick Paquette

Mar 18, 2015 5:51 PM
Si article 1 of the Quebec Charter is pretty much IT!


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 18, 2015 5:52 PM
:D Love that Eamonn brought up that UNalienable does not equal INalienable again. Black's Law 10th now lies and implies they are the same lol!


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Pete Daoust

Mar 18, 2015 6:02 PM
Rechtsstaat :P


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Janick Paquette

Mar 19, 2015 1:32 AM
:/ ... and now he speaks Russian!


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Scott Duncan

Mar 20, 2015 9:59 PM
Black's Law 10th is packed full of lies like that. FIRST TIME IN HISTORY!


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Scott Duncan

Mar 20, 2015 9:59 PM
Go look up "person" in Black's 10th ;)


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:03 PM
Fuck, I don't have that Black's Law Dictionary :( I never had, I roll with Pete's Law Dictionary :/


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Scott Duncan

Mar 20, 2015 10:05 PM
That one sucks. My position on that is a matter of public record.


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:07 PM
I know, but still, I use it :P


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:09 PM
Chris Evan, do you have access to that racist dictionary, Scott is speaking about ? :/


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Chris Evan

Mar 20, 2015 10:09 PM
No


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:10 PM
Fuck, where's Derek Moran when we need him ? :( DERK, I know you're reading, dump that definition somewhere, so I can see it :D


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Chris Evan

Mar 20, 2015 10:12 PM
The tender for law of asking Derek to post a definition is higher than I am willing to pay


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:13 PM
That's because you think wrong and value the wrong things :P


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Chris Evan

Mar 20, 2015 10:16 PM
Not in this case


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:17 PM
Oh yes :D


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 20, 2015 10:17 PM
Well this ought to be fun....


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Scott Duncan

Mar 20, 2015 10:19 PM
I'm on the fence. really. :/


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:20 PM
HAHAHA!!! :D


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 20, 2015 10:22 PM
From Black's Law 10th person. (13c) 1. A human being. - Also termed natural person. :/ 2. The living body of a human being <contraband found on the smuggler's person>. 3. An entity (such as a corporation) that is recognized by law as having most of the rights and duties of a human being. -In this sense, the term includes partnerships and other associations, whether incorporated or unincorporated.


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Chris Evan

Mar 20, 2015 10:24 PM
um...what?


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:24 PM
LOL.... :D


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 20, 2015 10:24 PM
I think I need to burn this Black's Law 10th :o


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Scott Duncan

Mar 20, 2015 10:25 PM
It gets worse. Trust me. :D


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 20, 2015 10:26 PM
And under "natural person" it reads natural person. See PERSON (1).


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:27 PM
I wonder if this Black's Law dictionary has a French version :D


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:28 PM
Too bad, I am sure it doesn't :P


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:29 PM
But Pete,s Law Dictionary has one :D HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! :D Boat Bunny = Lapin de Bateau :/


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Scott Duncan

Mar 20, 2015 10:31 PM
In Frenglish it's Cum-Bunny De Jour. :D


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 20, 2015 10:31 PM
Fuck! Once I noticed that INalienable = UNalienable I should have started looking up the obvious terms. Worse? Than Person = Human Being? Lol! Dare I ask.


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Scott Duncan

Mar 20, 2015 10:33 PM
Keep going. What is the LEGAL definition of "human Being" in Black's 10th? :D


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 20, 2015 10:36 PM
Ummmm...it is NOT there. I see human resources, human rights. human shield, human trafficking, human will but no "human being" :/ WTF!


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 20, 2015 10:37 PM
How can you use a term in a definition but not define that term?


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Chris Evan

Mar 20, 2015 10:38 PM
What about MAN?


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 20, 2015 10:39 PM
That is there Chris :)


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John Affidavit Fernandes

Mar 20, 2015 10:41 PM
belief, thats how, they want you to believe there is no distinction


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 20, 2015 10:41 PM
Man. (bef. 12c) 1. An adult male. 2. Humankind. - Also termed mankind. 3. A HUMAN BEING. 4. Hist. A vassal; a feudal tenant.


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:44 PM
They forgot about the penis :O


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Pete Daoust

Mar 20, 2015 10:44 PM
I hope you guys haven't paid for that shitty book, really :-\


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John Affidavit Fernandes

Mar 20, 2015 10:46 PM
all the things are free on the internets, besides, Scott already said not to bother with the 10th edition


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Scott Duncan

Mar 20, 2015 10:47 PM
A HUMAN BEING? Yet they don't define it?


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Chris Evan

Mar 20, 2015 10:48 PM
Also a feudal tenant


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 20, 2015 10:56 PM
"A HUMAN BEING? Yet they don't define it?" Not even... human being. See MAN.


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Chris Evan

Mar 20, 2015 11:03 PM
So, David-Paul, does the dictionary say that? Human Being See MAN?


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Scott Duncan

Mar 20, 2015 11:05 PM
TL;DR; Black's Law 10th is just a more sophisticated version of "The Bible is true, because it says so in the Bible".


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Scott Duncan

Mar 20, 2015 11:06 PM
When you see it, it's self-evident. NONE OF THIS IS HIDDEN!


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 20, 2015 11:06 PM
No it doesn't Chris. NOT EVEN that which is revealing.


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Eamonn O Brien

Mar 21, 2015 9:34 AM
Deans been working out.


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David-Paul Sip

Mar 21, 2015 1:43 PM
Or circle-jerking and he's ambidextrous too by the looks of it :P


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Eamonn O Brien

Mar 21, 2015 2:05 PM
http://www.protias.com/Pictures/Family%20Guy/muscle%20arm.jpg


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Scott Duncan

Mar 22, 2015 2:38 AM
OMG it IS Derek!


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Scott Duncan

Mar 26, 2015 9:08 AM
I fucking hate Derek Moran. Oh, hey! I know we all do... ...but for me it's special hate.


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