Dec 26, 2013 8:53 PM

have you liened the court file yet?

Well I don't think it is possible to understand the nature & cause of these proceedings until the questions before the court have been answered....sounds like a test of your resolve to stand on your truth until the questions are answered, or the matter dismissed.

Have you sent an affidavit with the same questions?

Gail, no! But I have filled out the forms. I will file them tomorrow. I am sick of this shit

Stuart, the Justice flat out said to me he wont answer my questions

then don't allow it to proceed...point of order: you'll be threatened with contempt, ask the questions: civil or criminal?

If the questions can'tor wont be answered, then the justice (obviously, by his own actions) doesn't want it to proceed...

seems like you are going to be in a pissing contest, to see who can piss longer & harder...good luck mate

Yeah, and if its criminal contempt, who's the injured party? Who's making that claim? If its civil contempt, where's the contract? ;)

I could very well be wrong here, but the judge that ultimately denied my appeal for the fail to identify, that occurred this summer said it was "nonsensical" (which is funny, because I know nothing of that legal bullshit and I could make sense of it without melting my brain) but it was not attached as an exhibit to an affidavit, though I did send it registered mail, they tried to deny it, till I produced the receipt

Have you thought about entering the Certificate of Live Birth into the court record? After all, that's the 'person' they're after. And since you're the only one short of a court order that can obtain a certified copy of that document, have you given your written-authorized consent to hold a shareholders meeting for CHRIS EVAN?

That's your proof that you are the sole beneficiary of the estate, and the judge is to be appointed the trustee by you, if not, he's going to switch hats and give you the trustee hat and put on the administrators hat and administrate the hell out of that estate for you ;)

I am now sure Scott Duncan is correct. Its time to pick up a gun and shoot those who breach the Public Trust!

Yeah, if we could only get more than twelve people to take up that same train of thought, we'd have this licked ... lol

Stuart, I did that in one case...then I said "You should recuse yourself." he said "you can file whatever you want. I said "I am not filing anything, recuse yourself.". He said "NO". And I think I have the transcript of this

ALL of my Notices were sent registered mail! The Notice of Mistake, in both cases, was "EXHIBIT A to an AFFIDAVIT"

Title 42 Tort Claim? ... Are you in the US?

Dwaine, The Certificate of Live Birth has been in the BOTH court files since Day 2!

I know, they are a lawless bunch of bottom feeders. You can play the game and hope you win, or go out in a blaze of glory, I guess that's a decision we all have to make.

Listen to this....I got a COPY of a document I filed back today with writing in the margins that said "Motion to Dismiss is denied" NO Court letterhead, and the signature possibly says "Allan J", but I am not sure.

Yeah...I know I made a mistake with the Motion filing, but I tried to correct it. They literaly dont' fucking care

Yeah, unfortunately, I am the only one here. Except David Johansen, but he 45 mins away!

Here's how Doc Holliday would handle your situation, Chris ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

the judge insisted I was a "person" I asked "I have the right to be recognized as a person, correct?" I asked this several times, his only answer "you are a person, appeal denied" the promptly got up and walked out...we are clearly right...if we weren't they could easily answer these simple questions...as Scott says, don't appeal to your rapist.

Kelleran, I sent the Notice of Mistake and walked away...they sent their ARMY to come get me.

I am now sure that it is OVER. The only solution is WAR! Just like Scott has been saying. I think we are fooling ourselves by thinking anything else really!

If I was more on the ball that day I may have had some more to say to that judge, but I was a tad nervous, so I tried to stick with getting my questions answered, but he just fuckin left the room anyway...if there is a way to hold them to there own rules I sure don't know it yet

There is. Here's how.

Step 1: Grab them from their homes. Step 2: Cuff them to a chair that's bolted down Step 3: Call me. I'll be right there.

It would be laughable if it wasn't so sick...even the slightest bit of reading, and/or some time on the tender for law, "should be enough to stop most "legal" bullshit dead in it's tracks, I'm not a fuckin person...oh sorry for the confusion, we were looking for the "body corporate, have a nice day

haha, good to see you're still around Scott...and still with the simple solutions! ;)

OR, I could be appointed a Justice of the Peace. No injured party? NO BAIL. Release with no conditions.

This shit would never make it to a courtroom.

well...it's an option...all in favour....

I would enjoy the "interview" method I mentioned before...

They'll survive it if they stay focused.

http://youtu.be/vRnT-AU7ToQ

Focus Motherfucker .... I need you to FOCUS! ;)

Dwaine....lets say I open a Title 18 or 42 case in a Federal Court. Why would I think those rapists will uphold the Public Trust over these other clowns?

Chris, are you familiar with Rod Class? and the guy he works with named "EJ"? ... That "EJ" cat is the best I've seen at filing those Tort against Judges .... I mean this Hillbilly Fucker has got this shit down to a fucking "T"! .... You might go to Rod's talkshoe page here, and go back through the archives a year or two and see if any of them are headed with "EJ" as a speaker. This guy KNOWS HIS SHIT when it comes to putting a hurting on these cocksucers ;)

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=48361&cmd=tc

I am familiar with their work, yes....but I will look into it further

You should do that. "EJ" is on this shit like a duck on a junebug, I mean he REALLY knows the Tort claim procedures and how to make them stick (y)

They are here for anyone else who wants to listen:

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=39811&cmd=tc

Well there he is, right on that first page ;)

Yes. Now they just ignore it. They don't follow their own rules. You're all just "freemen" to them.

WASTE OF TIME

People need to bring the fight to them. Show up at their homes. Power outages and severe storms are a great time to attack. ;)

The "Justices" would gladly do it to you.

At some point, we're going to have to zero in on ONE judge (administrator) and make that bastard famous on YouTube by having 200 people file Tort claims on his ass. Have the court full of people with hidden cameras that record everything.

There has to be a way to nail one of these fuckers to the cross and make an example out of them. .... FOCUS ;)

Yes, just like with Dean Clifford, right? CLUSTERFUCK TO VICTORY!

...idiots.

You people couldn't get coordinated enough to effectively use the paper on the roll beside the toilet.

LOL ... You're a Grumpy Bastard :)

No. I'm speaking from experience.

I know you are.

that's not true...I have no problems running the tp....you're makin shit up now! ha ha ha

Do you remember the CLUSTERFUCK CREW?

Kelleran: You all can do this stuff YOURSELVES. That's why ignoring you, works so well.

You need ONE LEADER and a crew that will SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DO WHAT THEY'RE TOLD.

That's the problem! TOO MANY CHIEFS.

I told you Darren was a cop. Nobody listened. They listened to HIM.

NOW he's in a position where they need no warrant. They just need to get Darren to hold the door open.

Too many Chiefs and not enough Engines ... Very True!

That is crazy that they listened to him :/

Afterwards when asked "WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN TO SCOTT", the GLOBAL response is "He's mean and hurt our feelings", and "he's disrespectful".

I don't "respect" ignorance.

I don't "respect" stupidity.

I MOST CERTAINLY don't "respect" theists.

But you WILL respect my authori-tay ;)

No, Cartman, I won't. :P

AUTHORITY is BESTOWED.

I am the ADMIRAL, because every captain says I SHOULD be.

Can you define 'bestowed"? ;)

That's how you dumb chimps SHOULD be doing it.

YOU COULDN'T KEEP YOUR REPUBLIC.

Don't lump me in with those Chimps, I wasn't even born yet ;)

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bestow

To confer or present (an honor, right, or gift).

LOL ... I know what bestowed mean, I was being facetious ;)

And this helps how?

I ALWAYS post defintions. ;-)

If you play stupid, I will assume you are stupid.

It is not reasonable to presume anything else.

Pretending you are dumb isn't funny or "ironic". It's a celebration of ignorance, and is part of what got you here.

Relax before I sue your ass off for hurting my feelings ;)

until rebutted ...

You people think the stupidity is "funny" and you just don't grasp that you ARE PART OF THE FUCKING PROBLEM

So, no. I will not "relax". Celebrating ignorance HARMS OTHERS.

If you are thinking of responding "I was just joking", get ready for a tingling sensation. THIS IS SERIOUS.

sadly, not everyone is "pretending"

MOST aren't.

Well, some of us like to interject a little humor with our "stupidity" to lighten up the tension. Relax, it was all in good fun.

WHAT did I JUST finish saying?

...banned.

saw that coming...said "I'm joking" in code

The stupid thing is that nobody wanted to take responsibility so the "leaders" were chosen on our stupid behalf... and we just shrugged. :/

Beverly gets it.

FOR the record: The PROPER response is "YOU'RE RIGHT, I'M SORRY".

There has always GOT to be a leader though.

Yes.

a leader is BESTOWED authority

Those that WANT the job are ALWAYS the least suited to do it.

so true!^^^

Being Captain is something I want. Being ADMIRAL sucks.

Captain is the closest to freedom a man can have in the 21st century.

hey where is Pete tonight? This is the longest I've been on in a while, good to see the gang is still out here...well, most of them ;)

Its all fun and games until it affects you and/or your family... :/

or it takes your eye out...

Captain......

the best at it hate it, but that also gives it value.

write them back, tell them to prove it so you can have it supoenad and entered into the record.

chris, the license (suspended) you have is evidence you once accepted surety. it also says under MGL the MV registrar has power of attorney. i hate to say it but this is ofcourse one steep conundrum you could have avoided. a double license suspension operating charge can result in loosing it for 10 years. you better go make it good, then withdraw it BEFORE they suspend it and you CANT withdraw it as easy. then this winter we can work on the notice to the state of the mistake made. the use of the wrong birth certificate date on all the contracts and have them ALL recinded/cancelled...

Wrong David! The POA you speak of refers specifically in cases involving an injured party

:-D Its ch 90 3d. I think. There is no POA absent an injured party

Ask this simple question when you are approaching the bench, before going through the gate: "Do you recognize me as a Living Man?" Make sure you say 'recognize', no other word will make the difference which 'recognize' does. Odds are they won't allow you to enter and approach the bench... and 'charges' should be dismissed.

Beverly Berta Braakschmack: The stupid thing is that nobody wanted to take responsibility so the "leaders" were chosen on our stupid behalf... and we just shrugged.

From an administrative viewpoint, how does one change this?

In addition to liening the name into a private trust, is there a need to revoke the power of attorney granted when we registered (on the person's behalf) to vote ie: to be represented by some other party?

Is the affidavit to the registrar general (spoken about in another thread) the necessary action which revokes the power of attorney and/or removes the person as a citizen from the government books?

I'm trying to make certain I have everything sorted so that any and all adhesion contracts between the person and the state have been adequately severed so there can be no presumed liability remaining.

If law (if/when they obey the rules) is about intent more than form, does this suffice in severing the obligations and/or satisfy the intent?

We take their money and tell them to shove it up their ass.. create our own money and they will slowly die...

Basically, stop feeding them... all of them...

So, I sent off some Registered Mail today with Invoices. Every party has been Invoiced as per the Public Notice states. The DA got an Invoice for $35,000. :-D All registerd mail

Fuck ^^^^ :D

I included in the Notices "Also, as per the proper Public Notice issued on November 22, please see the attached Invoice and remit payment promptly. We do not wish to extend your corporation Credit and intend on securing a lien against your company if the Invoice is not satisfied within 5 days (January 2, 2014)."

Shit....you'll end up in jail with thAT SHIT !!!! :o

Why?

I have no idea, but I hope it scares the shit out of you :D

They had the opportunity to tell me how they believe they were granted Power of Attorney and they defaulted. I have secured a default in a Court File. Now I am billing them for the un authorized continued usage of it through a Trustee Corporation.

I see nothing wrong with this....Its just business. :-D

Muhahahahahaha!!!!....sorry Chris, could not resist again

Did you had a tingly ? :D

Nope! I feel good about this!

I am sure you did :D

I don't expect to see a dime, but this is going to be very difficult for them once they are silent (again).

"Its ch 90 3d. I think. There is no POA absent an injured party" yes i know what it says, you try telling them to follow there rules.

I know David, clearly, i am already having a hard time with it. But, I am charting a new course.

you could ask them on and for the record are they obligated to follow all of their own rules, and/or are they obligated to lie having sworn oath to deceive. that might shake them up.

hahaha....you should see the "Notice" someone from the court sent me. It looks like something "WE" would be accused of doing.

Or buy a tank, that will shake the shack !!! :/

Lemme see if I can scan it....

No promises....It took me 29 minutes to take a pic of my door. Remember that Berta?

Shit....I did it.

I would definitely buy a tank, if your goal is to SHAKE anything :(

Hopefully you guys can read this...

I am sure there is plenty of these tank, for sale, in Muricka ! :/

I got ^^^ document in an envelope that I think was from the court. But it isn't on Court letter head, written legibly, or signed, or disclosed where it came from.

'The word "person" and "whoever" are clearly defined'....

Yes, and none of those definitions apply to "ME" :D

Did you read his chicken scratch in the margins?

Hold on...I will post my response to this. I sent it earlier....

Person.,

Definition: A thing, that a Man can use to do commerce with.

NOTICE of Confusion and Intent to Lien 12/26/13 To: Kathryn Morris Early, Clerk of Court CC: Honorable Paul C. Dawley, Chief Justice of the District Court

From: SGMI

Registered Mail #

Docket # 1340CR000301

Kathryn,

Take NOTICE�.On December 26, 2013, SGMI, the lawful Administrator of CHRISTOPHER EVAN SCHULTE, received a piece of mail from an unidentified party. Although we are not sure, we think it came in an envelope from your Court. A copy is enclosed for your review. We cannot read what appears to be cursive writing and believe no such law exists requiring us to. Please let the appropriate parties, if applicable, know of the confusion.

We do not recognize the document as following any known procedure or format. If the court wishes to address CHRISTOPHER EVAN SCHULTE, for now and in the future, we ONLY recognize type written Notices, in 12 to 14 point font, in Times New Roman or Arial font, on Court letterhead, signed by whomever is wishing to contact us under their proper oath and attestation and in what capacity and/or Title whomever is operating within.

If we do not receive a response from your Court in a manner which we can read and comprehend as defined in this Notice, it will be understood by ALL parties that the communication is non-conforming to the format outlined in this Notice and is of no force or effect.

If your Court did, in fact, send us this Document and your Court is, in fact, trying to communicate important information in this Document that we were sent, take Notice that the communication has not been comprehended and NO UNDERSTANDING has taken place. If we don�t receive a replacement Document with the proper communication within five (5) days, we will presume that no communication was intended and there was a mistake.

Also, as per proper Public Notice issued on November 22, 2013 published in the Salem News and on Facebook at CHRISTOPHER EVAN SCHULTE, please see the attached Invoice and remit payment promptly. We do not wish to extend your corporation Credit and intend on securing a lien against your corporation if the Invoice is not satisfied within 5 days (January 2, 2014).

From the President�s desk of SGMI Lawful Administrator of CHRISTOPHER EVAN SCHULTE

Chris... now you need to learn to CROP!

I hope this isn't a stain shit....

One thing at a time Berta!

Come on Chris Evan, Crop for fuck sakes :D

Stain Shit :D .....you speak Quebecois NOW ? .....

Yeah...I learned it from watching you

pretty illegible that chicken scratch...

Been having an interesting read re fraud:

http://www.guildhallchambers.co.uk/uploads/docs/section9/Civil_Fraud_Back_to_basics_RossFentem&LucyWalker_November_2012.pdf

...'the answer to the question posed in the sub-heading introducing this paper, �What is �Commercial Fraud�?�, can only be: it depends on what you need to prove.' :D

I am only doing this because they arrested me when after I issued the Notice of Mistake for a failure to appear. The one thing I am concerned with is that it looks like we are acting as Trustee of this Account.....I am not sure what to do about this as I feel caught between a rock and a hard place...cornered. :-/

CROP? Don't you guys have ZOOM? Pierre? Berta?

You have to administer the charge, Chris.

What do you mean?

Same as Ceit had explained... Send an affidavit with NOM giving them 10 days to reply... then send notice of dishonour, opportunity to cure, then certificate of dishonour.

Same as any Bill of Exchange...

I did all that. Ceit explained that to me when I was there and I got back and got right to that! That was done with no response....

Hold on....I will figure out how to post that. But its long.....

ehhhh....its 12 pages. But I did EXACTLY what Ceit said in that thread!

Oh cause it sounds like you just sent them your NOM and thought it was over... :D

At first..back in August. Then shit got real in October....

Hmmm, a recent affidavit I wrote (based on one I read a while ago), stated that if I was compelled and/or forced to act as SURETY in this matter, it would come at a cost of $1.2 M

Never heard back about it...

Well...the Public Notice says it wants payment in silver at the rate of $1000 silver dollars per day. So say silver is trading at $20 to $1 FRN, they are in some deep shit. Its probably at close to $700,000....all because they won't identify themselves to me. :-D

https://www.facebook.com/christopher.e.schulte?fref=ts

OH FUCK !!!!.....Bill Maher has the same definition of the word "Man" than the Pete's Law Dictionary :-o

He must have been creeping your posts Pierre Eleveneightfivetwo

You ever think about looking up what falls means in law and in dictionary? ?

http://thelawdictionary.org/fall/

yes we can read it , good scan. yes you could have cropped it prior to scanning. a zoom lens on a camera is a mechanical crop. i find it much easier to set up a stand and use the camera to capture documents. a scanner is a camera, just a different kind. scan at 72dpi for a monitor, 300dpi for printing (monitor to print is a 4:1

i use photoshop 7 for scanning/importing/editing, and super jpg for printing. i can email you the program super jpg. it has certain features i find quite useful as it will build an html page and table w thumnail images from a selection, and it will work with tiff files too. for instance http://countycomputerservice.com/XBox_Mod/

sorry, i just realized i hijacked the thread. i'll delete these shortly.

No worries David Johansen, I highjacked the group... :D

Muhahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

actually pierre i think you just smeared the shit stain around!

shit stains for everyone! pierre is buying the baby wipes!

I am thinking here.....why does this PERSON that I have in my pocket have an address anywhere other than Vital Statistics?

Why is the beneficiary "getting" the mail and "sending"it to the right place? In my business, I am not the decision maker of stupid mundane tasks. I have people for that. So why with this thing that I didn't create am I the "mail sorter"?

Also, it seems to me that I am the Beneficiary. In my corporation, I tell the employees (trustees) what my expectations are and all are judged (compensated and continued employment) by how well the reach MY expectations. I basically tell them what my "wishes" are. Why would I not contact Vital Statistics (ie, the guy who signed this Certificate of Live Birth) and tell them what my wishes are and judge them based on how well they perform?

Then why don't we tell the Trustee that if any good shit comes in, such as ....whatever... we will hold it. Fuck...does this make sense?

Yup, makes sense. Therein lies the problem.

:-D

ask them to produce the facts/evidence that they are relying on that suggests you ARE this "person", and you will be more than happy to accept surety....otherwise....

a "legal opinion" still sounds like an opinion to me...and opinions are not facts

You may want to be sole share holder in your corp and beneficiary of a trust established by agreement administered by the corp that is the administrator and trustee and the body and or vessel may want to take a new name. Where First Director and beneficiary could be titles held by a certain body that was given another name at birth �the body only knows because it is private.

and it is way easier said than done....I know this all to well...if they truly had an answer...they would happily shove it down your throat...they don't though, so they just run you over...and quickly leave the court room

I don't like being run over :-(

lol, I agree Pierre! while watching their faces go red, (because they can't answer our questions) does bring a bit of satisfaction...the running over us part needs to change...

the elected representative, he's the party responsible for settling the public debt

Fucking finally!!! I liened both court docket numbers today. Hopefully, I do the right thing with the claim now...onto CHRIS. :-D

Chris Evan how did you do that exactly? Did you make an affidavit claim on a lien, and recorded it?

Shawn Yancey Tito Gary

A corporation that I trust filed a UCC1 on the Docket Numbers

under creditor how did you enter name?

Corporation did that

Its the corporations name

On a UCC1? Why would I do that?

Hey Star Dus, you have been warned use complete sentences and complete words, no text tard speak here. Last warning.

*TEXT TARD!!!!!

P. S. I am not an admin, Pete is� I just am tired of people not pushing, so I am pushing�

I do not want to presume anything.

We are not the authority here.

This is the Admirals jurisdiction, not ours.

The text tard has been corrected I see ? :/

But Chris Evan, that mean they won't be able to COLLECT on these charges ?....right ?

I don't know what it means. I am trusting the Admiral in his wisdom. I am thinking I can do the right thing with it when necessary.

:( !!!!

yeah...I know.

Chris Evan, for fuck sakes !!! :D :D

Thats what took me so long to do it! I don't fully comprehend it. I KNOW that they are using the NAME to open an Account, therefore, the proceeds from the Account should be mine!

Its now up to them to PROVE that they have authorization through a contract which I do not think exists!

It means you now have the authority to set it off. It means they can go after the corporate person, it means that if Proper notice has been given it is a private matter that the corporate person can admin for you. .It means you are free to go�

They create the debt which will be taken care of by some one else to fix it with credit� if you have corporate person to admin, that is a duly authorized trustee corporate person.

Bobis, I am still afraid they won't just go away.....

SET off the debt via the trust established with the agent of the trust IE corporate person pays the thing� they go away.

"defendent" and "person" same thing, technically very correct, but are "you" either?

Knowledge will alleviate the fear, the action will alleviate the fear. Courage is nothing more then feeling the fear and doing it anyway.

No Cara....its kind of comical how they are trying to handle that. :-D They are just railroading me instead of looking at facts. I think they are scared.

FUCKERS!!!!

It is designed for you to be afraid� all of it.

There is nothing to fear but fear it self�Heard that somewheres, one time�

It is a illusion of fiction.

I am!!! Of course I am. I have no experience in this until now! But, I am sure I am right....

dont presume anything

If you are following what the Admiral says� He is always right, just figure out the why, for yourself. :-D

K, have to admin some stuff, talk later. Chris Evan I have come to trust that. I literally had to learn to trust� Myself. That was stolen from me. In a conversation I had with the Admiral. He stated I had already paid dearly� I did not understand at that time what he meant. Today I do� I have paid dearly� Now it is time to collect on that debt.

Thru some one else we Trust� :-D

We have made mistakes, we do our best to acknowledge them, and move on. Learning from them as we go� I jumped� I felt I had no choice� today I do� The Admiral is truly a noble being in action.

He told the truth when no one else would. He is to be commended for bravery, beyond the call of duty.

And He hates us all�. That is the commendable part.

We are wide awake and grateful.

That is the result of my courage; to take the reins of my one life. That is the best thing ever.

And the ability to Trust some one� any one. Who earns it.

Ok really got to go now� We truly hope you find the care and comfort for yourself� that is a direct result of moving forward. And trusting in the fact , this might be the only place on earth where you hear the truth� As painful as it may seem at the time.

Reality does not care how you feel.

You are talking alone again ? :/

HOLY SHIT !!!!....there are 17 facebookers that want to join this group !!! :-o

Bobis Youruncle, to whom were you talking to ? :/

whether he is aware or not, Pierre Eleveneightfivetwo he is 'speaking' to me and likely many others :)

I read EVERYTHING and 'liked' it. I heard him!

Ho...ok, sorry, let me go get the tissues......ADAM!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Hey Gail, who's on the radio show this week ? :D

lol it's up in the air...my guest has been having technical difficulties...if he isn't able to make it, then I will do an update on my bank contract

Ok Gail, but make sure that if you have someone from TTFL, to let me know, I don't want to miss these... :D

ok Pierre Eleveneightfivetwo lol

Seconded! I CANNOT miss anyone on that show that I know! No freaking way!!!!!!!!!

hehe

I think Kent Barrett would be a wonderful guest !! :D

Or Maria from the other group!!! that would be AWESOME!

What about Derek Moran?

And Chris Evan could be nice to invite as well, he could give us a one hour show on how to SIGN stuff !! :D

No, not Derek Moran please !!!!! :D

Muhahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Maybe you could have Eamonn O Brien and me on....we can tell your listeners what to do. :-D :-D

Fuck, we would need a translator for Eamonn O Brien !!! :D

I'm not that bad, I just wouldn't know what the fuck I was talking about...

Get a freaking good programmer, and a freaking good ADMIN, buy the sutt they tells you to buy......and that's it......very short show ! :/

Gail, I say Pierre needs to be on your show! You'll get eleventy-billion thumbs ups, hellos!

thinking....Eamonns Irish accent, my Boston accent, and Gails Canuck accent. :-D No one would have a friggin clue about what we were talking about! No way they could follow!!!!

We second that. Gail Marie

Especially "ME" :D

Throw Pete into the mix and forgetaboutit

Really really really really!

fagedaboudit. yeah, thats it :-D

I am laughing big time, just to think about it :D

Fuck..then we would say things like "the Admiral", "fucks the puppy", "niggeresque" No one would follow that show!

Gail, you should totally put together a TTFL show

Oh sorry Bobis, The Tender for Law :-D :-D

The stain shit that show would be is priceless...unless someone sent a Bill of Exchange, then we could put a price on it.

YES YES YES! :D C'mon Gail...

*sigh* We all know that one� Idiot.

:-D :-D :-D

Maybe I need a list of acronyms I can use and a list of acronyms I can't. that would make this much easier!

Just think about things, is all. I know you were joking. You will save yourself much grief if you use full words , mostly� It is about being able to stand in your power and vocalize this like you know it well. To vocalize, one must use full words.

We are writing for speaking when doing these things. It is a different thing; then writing for reading.

Haaa.....shut up Bobis ... :P

No.

I got my RADIO GUY look ready :D

:-D

maybe you'd like to host a show Pierre Eleveneightfivetwo?

Maybe !! :D

I have the perfect PROFILE for that Gail !! :D

HAHAHAHA!!!!

Oh my you do !

Hey just a thought on this i actually took my NOTICE OF MISTAKE with me to court. I asked for dismissal because they had no sworn complaint from a flesh and blood victim. I put them in the corner. The judge said that the PROSECUTOR was REPRESENTING a state company I've never heard of bla bla then I pointed out that the judge the prosecutor and the supposed injured party all represented the "STATE" so it was an obvious CONFLICT of INTEREST. The judge still wasn't having it she ranted and raved and threatened to throw me in jail for six months bla bla. So i pull out the NOTICE and say. Uhh i NEED to GIVE this to YOU. She accepts it then starts reading. She probably made to the question section i would say before she realized what she was reading and as soon as she did REAL-IZE :-) what i had given her she threw it at the clerk and said " I don't even know what a Notice of Mistake is" hahaha. Best court moment ever. The clerk filed it. Immediately she starts to back pedal eventually she dismissed for lack of PROPER NOTICE. She made a point to say " The ONLY reason I'm dismissing this is because there has been no NOTICE. But i knew it was bullshit. My point is if you want them to actually read it give it to the judge in court ask the clerk to file it as soon as the judge accepts it. Atleast that's what i did. Thats giving NOTICE, with no NOTICE they can play dumb to your questions because the NOM states the facts at the beginning. Maybe they just haven't read yours or pretend to have not.... just a thought

Great stuff Jesse Alexander !!!.... :D

But we were discussing something very important here, a freaking future radio show.. :D

But seriously Jesse, you should start a new thread with this, please ;)

I would but in THE TENDER FOR LAW Scott has INSTRUCTED US not to go to court. I went because here in MERICA they don't play fair and i was scared :-( good thing i did though. It worked in the end, but i digress.....

Hey, Jesse Alexander, just share YOUR experience here......from the start, that's all

I am pretty sure Scott is SUGGESTING us to not go to court, as a plaintiff, but as a defendant, sometimes there is not much choices.....just share buddy, PLEASE :)

Anyway, I did a small DEMO of me, in a RADIO show......just to make sure what a RADIO show means to me, in my MIND :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1BnkevM--k&feature=youtu.be

bWAAHAAAHAAAAHAAA...

Hahaha

Pierre is high on that french weed. I hear they got that shit that killed Napoleon.

That just made me smile!lol!

Good thing !! :D

Pierre Eleveneightfivetwo when i grow up i want to be like you :-) you're a nice fucking guy!!!

? :/

Do I look old ?? :(

Definitely a face for radio! Fuck are you ugly! hHaha

You look like your having a blast.

FFFFREEDDUUUUMBBB !! :D

HAHAHAHA!!!!

NO! You look like:

Who's that guy ^^^:/

Oh yeah, that Robert guy !! :D

He's soooo badass!

And me, soooooo dumbass :D

Aww don't be like that

dumbass is a very good thing in French, it means I am really not a good customer.....for no one :D

Ask Quebec Revenue Agency !!! :D

Muhahahahahaha!!!!

Jesse Alexander, please share your experience !!

Hey Pierre Eleveneightfivetwo i submitted that thread Brother

So I called the stupid Kourt to see about some stupid appointment that if I don't make on Friday, they will send their ARMY after me for. And......they said its a Discovery Hearing. Now, either I am completely losing it, or they have fucked around with procedure because the last time I left that stupid Kourt, they said "Jury Trial". There is no way I mistook the 2...no way!!! It must have something to do with me adamantly stating on the record that "Until my questions are answered I don't understand the nature and cause of the charges against me"

Did you notify them of the lien?

I just did it yesterday, so no, not yet...unless the Secretary of State did...?

No, you HAVE to give notice...

Its isn't perfected otherwise...

mhmmm

so then....I will

You better...

The registration is only a registration... notice perfects it. Also an affidavit. http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/pdf/PPR/Reg3334.pdf

Well that one is for agent...

Although you probably already have an affidavit filed for whatever this problem is?

Public Notice perfects it, In alberta PPSA notifies everyone� thru historical record on website�

We authored our own affidavit.

It is simple once admin is done, PUBLIC NOTICE PEFECTS IT�.. DONE

According to the Police Report, I was on "a public way owned, operated and maintained by the Commonwealth" Aren't I the 'Commonwealth'?

NOPE, that was the previous disguise of the nobles� To get the common wealth from the people they ruled over�.

But WE fought a war and took it...was that a disguise as well?

did you reply, you have the right to private, non commercial use of all public property? the commonwealth, so then you will subpoena the 'commonwealth' to take the witness stand and swear under oath that you do not have the right to publically use the public way...

No David, I read it for the first time today when I got home.

I wonder what facts or evidence he is relying on that the Commonwealth OWNS the road....?

ok, we'll talk about what happened later, after 7. call me, i'll be waiting.

I think I have a date tonight David...can we talk tomorrow? Do you have free weekends too?

yes, all weekend. ok. a date hu. well good for you. hope she's nice. i'm still hoping such a thing might happen to me one of these days. call me tomorrow then during the day if your to busy tonight.

note, if the commonwealth owns the road then they can produce a deed to it right? and it is posted NO TRESSPASING!

Yeah, right?

remember, questions deflect surety...

Chris we have been duped for hundreds years :-P

David, they don't give a fuck!

Bobis, I know that....you know that...they probably even know that. But they don't fucking care

Yep, now we trust ourselves :-D

chris, we know they dont. why would you even consider such a thing? thats thinking wrong.

seems to me they provided you with an opportunity to question something and you fumbled the ball.

you need to file more paper. i think you can 12(b)6 this because the 'commonwealth' cant own land, it belongs to the public. i need to see what they disclosed to you today.

affadavit declaring you are not a u.s. citizen, and a small desktop massachusetts flag...

I'm still having a blast, Jesse Alexander, just saying ;)

Having a blast has nothing to do with being a "comfortably numb" and sometimes, it might get less comfortable, but at least it's TRUE :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMZUvDqBSh0

maybe write the attorney general and tell HIM everything is a MISTAKE! You have NEVER consented to being GOVERNED, let alone this court IS attempting to RAILROAD YOU against your will...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfD63pCY718&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Holy fucking shit....here is another SUUMONS for an ARRAIGNMENT....for something that is routinely CIVIL and has nothing to do with me, rather SGMI. Bahahaha....these fucking criminals will stop at nothing to make an example of me. Now might be time to file a CLAIM against ALL of them

To whom it was sent ? :/

CHRIS

Oh, you should send it to your slave MASTER, you know the one who declared you his slave ?? :/

He is the WITNESS on this thing

Good !!! :D

Well, you don't have much talking to do, other then: WHERE IS SURETY, WHERE IS SURETY ?

:D

yeah...sure Pete....did you just start reading about how they operate down here?

LOL.....no, but what else is there to do ? :D

If they just really IGNORE you, do the same fucking thing.....yell out loud....WHERE IS SURETY, WHERE IS SURETY... :D

Something else....that doesn't work here. Perhaps file my own CASE against them....harassment, etc etc etc

Do you think I haven't made a fucking scene in these places? Seriously Pete, until you are in the situation, what can you really offer? Have you spent days and weeks in a cell for this? Have you been attacked in a building that is supposed to be protecting your rights? Have you? When you have, then I will listen. But I have done all this stuff.

:D

Relax bud.....I am on your side :P

Maybe Dean Clifford can help, since he IS in THIS SITUATION :P

I know...I'm fucking frustrated

I understand, my electricity has been stole for almost a month now :D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! :D

The situation appears (as you know) to be that they cannot deceive you into consenting anymore so are hellbent on forcing you to comply :-(

I feel for you Chris :-(

Ummmm....yeah. I think they have established this.

Yes, it has been established and publicly said that chris has NO OTHER CHOICES than to be SURETY for his PERSON....

That is a FACT, so maybe chris should ask them on HOW he could get rid of this person, because obviously, he is its slave, and since slavery is suppose to be abolished, chris dosen't UNDERSTAND and he is fed up....

Pete....refer to previous comment. There must be a way....

I am thinking that I need to discharge this myself via the Security of the Person. Perhaps I should get a CERTIFIED COPY of the CHARGING INSTRUMENT and authorize the discharge myself. Then send it to the IRS with VALUABLE CONSIDERATION for discharge.

I wonder what would happen if you required sight of the matrix /original charging instrument and discharged there and then ? No doubt they'd tell you to fuck off in some legalese.

Already done this too.....They allowed me to complete it, put it back in the file and issued an arrest warrant.

Fuck....do you guys think I have not done EVERYTHING I could have?

Sorry Chris. I have read the whole thread but I have some memory issues :-(

You folks are not comprehending this....THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK! Ok.....in French: ILS NE donner un baiser! In Spanish: No dan una mierda!

I do Chris I do :-(

In French it's : Ils s'en criss..... :P

I stand corrected...as does Google Translate

So....I think I will try to discharge this one by myself

What does this summon says ?

What do you think it says? It says the same as all of them

They want to see CHRIS in court ?

Well, tell me why do you think you can go in there and do anything? I mean, your a fucking user, simple, its not ur property to do anything with. If you actually read the notice of mistake and read it aloud into the court and you get no answers, what the fuck is stopping you from stating, WHAT EVIDENCE does the COURT have that I am a TRUSTEE for the LEGAL NAME. WHAT EVIDENCE does the COURT have that I am a TRUSTEE and have ANY SURETY with respect to the LEGAL NAME? --SILENCE, no response, ON and for the RECORD, LET THE RECORD SHOW, all parties are in agreement that i am not a trustee nor surety for the legal name, NOW HOW HARD IS THAT ?????????? so what they wont fucking answer, answer it for them geeez, who is running this damn court anyways ???? This same routine goes for all questions they wont respond to, watch how fast they will respond when you say something like this...i did it, got a quick reaction and denial. What is the legal maxim for denying something ??????? Quick ..quick...

I have done all that Chief and spent 2 fucking weeks in jail and countless other days

Done what ??

EVERYTHING you said!

done that isnt telling me nothing..

Notice of Mistake....appointed trustees....answered questions for them

I have spent more time in jail doing all of that than I cared for

Come to Massachusetts and observe. You will see.....

This is NOTHING like all these other guys on the INTERWEBS say it is.

see there is your problem, your busy answering their question and not asking questions for understanding, i guess you said you understand as well? Your actions and conduct get you into trouble in the courts...even thoe you say no, ur legs are still wide open soaking wet taking a fucking.... just because you say one thing, doesnt mean your actions are not saying another...

Where did I say I answered their questions? I said I answered MY questions for them. Nevermind.....the answer is they aren't following their rules anymore. That is the answer

There is at least 3 threads on this page I have detailed this within.....

They will threaten you with jail, hell even put you in jail to get you to agree. There needs to be seminar done just about how to conduct ones self while in jail, its a test, did you answer to YOU, or YOUR being charged etc..etc.. ??? got transcripts so we can follow along ???

That's EXACTLY what ChiefRock Sino General is saying, WHY did you answered your questions, for them ?

"Chris Evan Notice of Mistake....appointed trustees....answered questions for them

NEver fucking mind. You folks are not getting it

:D

ic ic, you answered your own questions to them for them ??

maybe this is your probably, communicating isnt clear....to ambiguous maybe ??

BY WHAT AUTHORITY DO YOU ATTACH A NAME DERIVED FROM A PUBLIC DOCUMENT TO "ME" ?

I think Lou Manotti has the record for this one :D

Are you using that name for identification purposes ? Court, yes we are, -- great, let the record show the defendant is behind the bench, please bailiffs bring him down here to face the charges before him :P

Chris Evan, you may have made a few mistakes, that can happen when nervosity kicks in.....answering your own questions for them is NOT ok.....you may have pushed the speed, and may have done TOO MUCH....

Chris Evan get the transcripts so we can all read along and see exactly what was said in the court room. This would better serve you than the comments posted...

Agreed... :)

Never fucking mind! Seriously. Of course there are fucking mistakes. There are perhaps 6 people on this forum who could go to Kourt flawlessly. FFS...that isn't the fucking point

This has cost me almost a year, over $5000, sleep less nights, days and weeks in jail. And you want me to keep going? Are you fucking folks high?

Get the transcript, I am sure ChiefRock Sino General will be happy to see them

hahaha....here is how it works in MAss...I pay $50 for a CD, then pay a transcriber to write out the play. NO! I am done with this stupid bullshit

Stop tagging me so I can go about my day in peace....

Sorry, but as an Admin in here, I have the RIGHT to tag you as the fuck I want, Chris Evan :D

CD, so you can get audio of the court sessions ?? that would be much better....honestly..

lets go back to the beginning. if you had listened to me you wouldn't be in this predicament. not what you wanted to do/hear, but it would have prevented these issues you are dealing with now...

the easiest way out is to beg them forgiveness, comply, and get it all straightened out. THEN cancel everything.

or continue trying to fight them ill prepared...

:D

when chris and I first talked, i told/suggested him, pay the fees, get the license suspension lifted. only then can one cancel the contract.

but no, you had to keep on keeping on... and look where it has gotten you...

it has now cost you 10x or more, than if you had just followed my suggestions.

few of us can be the likes of sino, lou, and/or scott when it comes to acting in a court venue. the best thing to do is simply avoid it at all costs from happening.

Hey..David Johansen...go fuck yourself

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Finally a good reason to block that idiot!

And the reason is ? :D

Anybody ever come out of a court room better than when they first got in!?? I read the comments about what to do or say while in court but if they don't acknowledge any of it, where does that leaves us? I becomes really evident that unless you start shooting they won't take you seriously.

:D

Sorry Chris, but I have to agree with David on this one as well. There are far bigger battles ahead, stop wasting your time and money on these small potatoes and stop picking fights; i.e: collecting and ignoring minor traffic infractions. You applied for, possess and have renewed yearly a Drivers License. That is all the proof of AGENCY that they need. Read Scott's last two articles again. The fact that you have a license makes trying to claim that you're NOT an AGENT a "Swedish massage pumps aren't my bag, baby"-situation.

blinks...Ceit....I gave the fucking thing back!

REGISTERED FUCKING MAIL

WITH a 3 part Notice process!

Yeah, Dean gave HIS back too. You still APPLIED for it, and RENEWED it every fucking year. What did the 3-part Notice say?

I don't want this thing anymore....it was underhanded...fraud happened (real fraud, not the freedumb fraud)...you can keep it....lack of disclosure, minor contracting. Ya know...all the important topics

Did any of them cover your resignation?

no....the word resign does not appear in the document

So, until you RESIGN from government service, the claim that you are not an AGENT is just a lie and the courts have every reason to proceed as such.

sigh...and this is living? This is a fucking hell!

Chris Evan There's no doubt you'd get better justice if you went to Saudi Arabia, shat in a Mosque and wiped your arse with the Koran and then claimed it was okay for you to do that because you are not a Muslim. The Justice System is FUBAR (Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition)!

Now I'm not totally clear on this AGENCY thing yet, and the Admiral is sleeping, but my understanding of it is this: You, the man, applied for that license making you an AGENT acting as SURETY for the name. This is why the birth certificate is required. You signed for the license, agreeing to abide by the terms and conditions that go along with it, and had your photo taken, binding your image to the contract.

Until you resign, they have every reason to believe that you are an agent and to treat you as such, and a shitload of proof that YOU provided to them to back that position up.

As it is done,so shall it be undone.

ChiefRock Sino General May I ask ,which book is that ?

Wills trusts and estates 2nd edition

^^ Many thanks :-)

The AGENCY is surety Ceit, not the agent, the agent must ACCEPT the traffic ticket, and the AGENCY must settle the debt, the agency is PIERRE DAOUST, and PIERRE DAOUST's surety can discharge the debt....me, I am NOT the agency when I am DRIVING A CAR, I am the agent :-D

I hope that makes sense ^^^ :/

AGENCY Fiduciary relationship between two parties in which one (the 'agent') is under the control of (is obligated to) the other (the 'principal') . The agent is authorized by the principal to perform certain acts, for and on behalf of the principal. The principal is bound by the acts of the agent, performed in carrying out entrusted duties and within the scope of agent's authority. An agency can be created by (1) express agreement, whether oral or written, (2) implication, based on the custom or practice of the trade,or (3) conduct of the principal. Under the legal doctrine of estoppel,the principal is prohibited from denying the existence of a properly constituted agency. Creation of agency is essential to commercial and financial transactions, because an organization (as a legal entity) can function only through its agents.

No, the AGENCY is the government, who you have applied to be a LICENCED AGENT for in this case.

I'm talking about drivers license specifically here since that is what pertains to his case. If you work at Walmart, and are standing around one day in your Walmart employee uniform, and the manager comes over and tells you "There's been a blowout on the changing station in the family washroom; you're on diarrhea duty!". You're going to look AWFULLY silly if you start insisting that they have no authority over you because you don't work there. Now, if you QUIT (RESIGN) first...

Yes, that is why I said "the agent must ACCEPT the traffic ticket"

The walmart example has no DEBT implied......but lets say a DEBT occurs, while I am cleaning all this shit, for some reasons, walmart MUST be surety for that debt......

Lets say the toilet bowl cracks, while I am gently cleaning that shit, because I am very happy to do it, and the plumber sends the bill to Pierre Daoust the agent, I will certainly bring that bill to the Agency so they can settle that debt :P

:D

If you're stocking shelves and you drop a brand new 72" flatscreen, you really think that puppy wouldn't be coming outta' your paycheck on TOP of store insurance?

I would NEVER accept that.... :P , fuck, I did worse than that Ceit Butler, for some companies I have worked for........

72" flat screen ?? :-o ...do they really have that :/

:p

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:P

Anyway, I am NOT fucking surety, point final. :P

Strange, the link that posted was NOT the link that I copied. Reread my note on television.

You want me to read ALL of that, again ? :(

I want one of these 72" flat screen, I want to play toejam & earl on that thing :D

Yes, I am a bit late on video games......I know, but... whatever :P

Did I said I was not surety ? ....just to make sure.... :/

Nope, it's right at the top, there's an Amazon link. The reviews are the best part. :D

... I still have an N64 (just for Donkey Kong, Conker's Bad Fur Day, and Rampage), and an ORIGINAL Sega Genesis with Sonic The Hedgehog :D

Ahhhh....I feel better now :D

Speaking of this 72" flatscreen, does it consume lots of electricity ? :D

I can't find that thread..... :/

It's actually an 85", I couldn't remember exactly so I just tossed out a wildly ridiculous number. Turns out, I guessed low :p

Fuck me !!! ?

Do you think it can run on a 3000w generator ? :D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

Other than not wanting to get shot on the side of the road for not having a licence, why would someone with no concepts of commerce, contracts, surety, due process or other such legal baggage apply for a driver licence? Ah, fuck... Answered my own question. :p

Pete Daoust: "The AGENCY is surety Ceit, not the agent, the agent must ACCEPT the traffic ticket, and the AGENCY must settle the debt, the agency is PIERRE DAOUST, and PIERRE DAOUST's surety can discharge the debt....me, I am NOT the agency when I am DRIVING A CAR, I am the agent"

I think you meant "the AGENT is PIERRE DAOUST". And technically a MAN is driving the car, the PERSON is the AGENT which is used to create JOINDER (the bridge) to the man driving. The man is unwittingly hooped into ACCEPTING SURETY for the PERSON when he is forced to hand over the PERSON's driver's licence.

I think this is worth exploring further although this would seem to be a natural fit for the AGENCY thread the admiral created. The exchange between Ceit Butler and Captain Pete raise a number of questions that I will include here.

Isn't the PERSON, and not the man, the agent? How can a man be an agent under government acts and statutes? Doesn't the title AGENT represent a specific OFFICE or CAPACITY of the PERSON?

Ceit Butler: "You, the man, applied for that license making you an AGENT acting as SURETY for the name. This is why the birth certificate is required. You signed for the license, agreeing to abide by the terms and conditions that go along with it, and had your photo taken, binding your image to the contract."

Does a man (or woman's photo) mean that the man is a party to the contract? Or is this not part of the presumption that we the PERSON/NAME which we are supposed to BELIEVE? Who in fact has agreed to the terms and conditions when the driver's LICENCE is signed? The MAN or the PERSON?

Can acts and statutes apply to MAN? I think (may be wrong) they ONLY apply to the PERSON since the PERSON is the ONLY thing the GOVERNMENT and the COURTS have JURISDICTION over. Lawyers have CLAIMED authority of all NATURAL PERSONS (see recent DRAFT article the Admiral posted).

Does a MAN's picture next to a NAME on any licence make them that PERSON/NAME or is it part of the deception and the smoke and mirrors used to convince folks they are that PERSON/NAME? And would the NOTICE OF MISTAKE not be used to correct this PRESUMPTION?

I agree that the GOVERNMENT is the AGENCY but then that would also make it the SURETY since it owns the name. The GOVERNMENT and the COURTS conveniently PRESUME that the MAN is SURETY since that is the only way they can PROFIT from the arrangement.

I don't want to create a shit stain here but I am unsure how to avoid doing so since the dialogue between Pete and Ceit seem to offer two differing views only one of which can be TRUE. I'd like to know which.

A man can not drive a car.....only an agent can.....and the agent is Pierre Daoust, working for an AGENCY (LEGAL PERSON) called PIERRE DAOUST.... :D

Do not consider a MAN in this equation... :P

That's the way I get it.....I might be wrong though.. :)

I'm really confused now. Here's the thing though...only a PERSON can be an AGENT. Is it not true that JOINDER is required to ACT upon that MAN through his PERSON? Only a MAN can operate/drive a car...this is reality. Of course LEGALLY the GOVERNMENT or the COURTS will say that the PERSON/AGENT was driving to gain JURISDICTION but this is IMPOSSIBLE since the PERSON only exists on paper. Man provides energy/value to EVERY THING in commerce. That is why JOINDER and SURETY are essential in this thing. Or am i wrong? :/

I have been here several months and have not posted for the same reason as others, shut up and read. I want to stay on board and be capable of contributing one day. Thank You to all the regular posters!!

FYI...wrong thread Steve McElroy. I think this comment was intended for the pinned thread at the top :)

If you have a Driver's licence in your pocket, you have created joinder, David-Paul Sip

so my first comment is a shit stain, fucking wonderful

According to the situation Chris finds himself in. Having used a drivers license years ago is enough to create joinder. How to remove that joinder?

Resign.... :/

After making sure the PERSON has no outstanding accounting.

Oh so will the NOTICE OF MISTAKE correct the PRESUMPTION of SURETY?

Why would someone use a Notice of Mistake for a freaking traffic ticket ? :(

From my basic understanding. A Notice of Mistake is used after resignation. Or once you have begun Administration of the PERSON to correct the mistake of the MAN being presumed SURETY.

No, a notice of mistake is used when a fucking mistake needs to be notify.... :(

If you must drive w/a license (because you have not killed your person yet), dont carry it, give first and last name then ask (although you are not obligated to give a name, it makes it less confrontational, give the taken name only), what are my rights in this situation, if they say anything other than you have the right to remain silent then they are trying to perpetrate fraud. Never carry any ID or give an address and date of birth. if they arrest you for using your rights (remaining silent and not creating joinder), send an invoice with an affidavit to the offenders and the assurance company. Common law jurisdiction does not require one to carry identification of any sort. think about why you have the right to remain silent and how that works with the common law right to not carry ID, remember, the only right you have is the right not to be forced into contract. If they point to the in-car computer and ask, is this YOU, you can laugh and tell them no, I am right here, hahaha

Holy fuck !!!!.... I quit, sorry guys......for fuck sakes !! :(

Thge only fucking words that should come out of your mouth/pen is:

CAN I USE THE PERSON'S SURETY TO DISCHARGE THIS PUBLIC DEBT.

That is ALL......fuck

Thge only fucking words that should come out of your mouth/pen is:

CAN I USE THE PERSON'S SURETY TO DISCHARGE THIS PUBLIC DEBT.

That is ALL......fuck

Thx Pete for cleaning up my shit stains again.

Seriously, ANY fucking PUBLIC debt sent to the person, the ONLY question is....

CAN I USE THE PERSON'S SURETY TO DISCHARGE THIS PUBLIC DEBT. ?

Dear City of Toronto,

One of your tax collector has been remitted to my person, a debt for some offence.

I have this debt in my hands as we speak, and I was wondering if I can use the SURETY/SECURITY of the person to discharge that debt.

If you say yes: please show me how to proceed.

If you say NO: I will pay :D

Please respond within 10 days, because I want to TAKE CARE of this matter as soon as possible.

Thanks Sole authorized Administrator

:P

Okay thanks Capitaine Pete. I get what you're saying...so once you have received a NOTICE (Parking Infraction Notice or Offence Notice) then you should DISCHARGE using the PERSON's SURETY.

I tried this approach without success (possibly because of fucking FREE-DUMB programming). I conditionally accepted (per the BILLS of Exchange ACT) the notice and asked for the BILL and a copy of the two party contract giving rise to the bill. The City of Mississauga refused saying they don't provide this for parking related matters.

What I should have done FIRST after conditionally accepting was ask CAN I USE THE PERSON'S SURETY TO DISCHARGE THIS PUBLIC DEBT? I can still do this now though since the PUBLIC DEBT has not been PAID or DISCHARGED :D

Thanks for cleaning this up in my brain!

so once you have received a NOTICE (Parking Infraction Notice or Offence Notice) then you should DISCHARGE using the PERSON's SURETY.

I don't know ! :D ....but since you send them the question, they should answer you ? ....no ? :)

I'll say it again :D

ANY fucking PUBLIC debt sent to the person, the ONLY question is....

CAN I USE THE PERSON'S SURETY TO DISCHARGE THIS PUBLIC DEBT. ?

NOTHING ELSE.... :D

:D Keep it SIMPLE stupid! These PUBLIC SERVANTS have been known to not answer but I should still give them a chance to answer the RIGHT question FIRST.

This is the RIGHT thing to do. And I ONLY wish to do the RIGHT thing :D

Why wouldn't they answer ? :)

Avoid trouble by making sure the PERSON's driver's license is in the PERSON's car... It's THE GOVT's PERSON. It MUST provide the driver's license ID when asked to... Just make sure they ask for THE PERSON's driver's license...

Make it clear that if they wanna see a driver's license, they MUST ask for the PERSON's driver's license... Next time I think I'm gonna ask them to request the license by handing over a written/signed demand (to the Sole Authorized Administrator) for the PERSON's license... Hell why not even prepare the entire paperwork with carbon copies and they just have to sign..?

Make it clear it's not you. You are a man, you have the person / the slave / their slave. They WILL issue a ticket to the PERSON / slave / agent... So what... Being a MAN doesn't mean you can run around doing whatever you feel like without anyone noticing...

THEN you take that ticket and administrate it as Pete says...

***EDIT : BEGIN SHITSTAIN*** Regarding who's agent / agency : I too think the PERSON is the AGENT for the GOVERNMENT and/or whichever govt agency is in charge of PERSONs driving on the roads... As a MAN, I'm not an AGENT for a GOVERNMENT AGENCY, even if the AGENCY is the PERSON... That would make me an AGENT of a SLAVE AGENCY ??? ***END***

That's PERFECT, Kent Barrett :)

:D

Wish or require a reply? But I like the idea of getting specific with them.

The point that people are missing is that as the Registered Agent , you have agreed to ALL SERVICE of PROCESS to the registered office on the drivers licence.The address for the principal and agent are now one and the same.

The birth certificate is the public record of the creation of the CROWN ORGANIZATION. The drivers license is the joinder that binds you to it.

As the fraudulently registered agent, I've agreed to nothing. Time to look at the elements of a valid contract...

If you applied for the license, submitted your address, photo and signature to be attached to it, and have WILLINGLY AND KNOWINGLY renewed it on a yearly basis, then "fraudulently registered" goes out the fucking window.

The Drivers Licence is used to identify the REGISTERED OFFICE (address) of the REGISTERED AGENT(photo and legal name, with your signature )for the CROWN ORGANIZATION (the birth certificate). The drivers license is what creates the joinder between the name and the living man... And you all excitedly rushed in to sign up for it when you turned 16.

So does resignation remove joinder? As long as all accounts associated with the PERSON are zeroed?

' ... rushed in to sign up for it when you turned 16.' With full knowledge, no doubt!

These public trustees don't care if you were aware of what was happening when you signed up. As far as the public trustees are concerned you begged for the service

Until you resign from government service, as long as you have a license (sending it back doesn't count), they have every right to presume that you are still an employee. The birth certificate has no contractual ties to you. You didn't ask for it, you didn't sign it, and there's no address. The license is what hooks you. Your address is now registered as belonging to the name (crown corporation). Your photo and your signature are attached to it, affirming that YES, that NAME is you.

If the birth certificate is the trap, the drivers license is the cheese that lures you inside.

:-D

How does disqualification stack up against resignation?

So Ceit Butler, when I ask these public trustees, if I can use the surety of the person, to settle that debt, they should say NO ? :-D

I don't know mister Grundy what do you think?

Grundy? Mister?! You got your (a)rs(e) around the wrong way there... But I reckon the difference between disqualification and resignation would be akin to being fired and quitting.

Funny, Scott has never mentioned "disqualification". He has, however, talked about RESIGNATION on multiple occasion. Stop trying to complicate shit and change words.

Ceit, where do you get changing words from? I'm not advocating that one word be swapped out for another, I'm asking about disqualification because it pertains to me,

Sorry Gundry my bad. You did not address being called Mister tho

Not a problem - that was a bit my grand father used to do... re: Mister, I felt that was beneath me. ;)

And Scott has GIVEN you the answer, MULTIPLE TIMES. Focus on RESIGN.

When a public trustee addresses you as Mister and you respond. You just accepted joinder.

Tender my RESIGNATION.

Does a tender have to be accepted?

Isn't it still the ATTORNEY GENERAL's job to ATTORN the INDIVIDUAL to the governments jurisdiction? I thought it was the LAW SOCIETY that claims authority over all INDIVIDUALS..private and natural persons..

I would think the JOINDER created by driver's license would simply be extra ammo to use against the MAN, but ultimately gets accomplished by the ATTORNEY GENERAL.

I'll re-read the article.

"An AGENT is a slave that represents the MASTER. The master is always SURETY. When you accept JOINDER by IDENTIFYING yourself with your first name, last name, address, and date of birth, you become HER MAJESTY AND AN ORGANIZATION. You are now SURETY, and you must follow the rules of the organization. Otherwise, you have committed an OFFENCE."

Nope, it's all spelled out there. You are now SURETY...

... unless the JOINDER was a MISTAKE?? :/

... I've got to NOTIFY somebody about that.

http://www.ppsa.ca/ppsacaV3//registration/index.jsp

http://www.ppsa.ca/ppsacaV3//errors/timeout.jsp

So, the INDIVIDUAL DEBTOR is PIERRE DAOUST

The SECURED party is 9111-1111 Quebec Inc

The period ?? :/

Extra Notes: I guess I can put the PIERRE DAOUST's inscription number and SIN number there ?

Why these extra notes necessary Capitain Pete? the assets of the corporation are private no?

the BC, SIN are not private they are not owned by Pierre

To make sure there's no confusion/controversies ? :/

Who said the BC/SIN is private? If the BC/SIN are liened into a PRIVATE TRUST it becomes an asset of the TRUST. The TRUST is PRIVATE and does not need to disclose its assets whether they are PUBLIC/PRIVATE.

"unless the JOINDER was a MISTAKE" This was my thought precisely Rodrigo Dan Darius and where I had thought the NOTICE OF MISTAKE came in to play. But that was thinking WRONG :(

I have never understood how their can be "agreement between the parties" when FULL DISCLOSURE was never provided. I may have applied for the Driver's Licence but did so before I was sixteen. What is the age that one is considered LEGALLY COMPETENT. Either the government gave FULL DISCLOSURE and I'm an IDIOT (meaning unable to contract), which some days it feels that way, or they did not! At the very least it is obvious that JOINDER is being created without having any knowledge or UNDERSTANDING of this so how can anyone consent where FULL DISCLOSURE is not given? My brain hurts trying to make sense of this.

Of course this is CONTRACT LAW so I'm thinking I may be confusing this and TRUST LAW. I think ChiefRock Sino General is the man to talk to about CONTRACT LAW. Any insights Chief?

Ok, if the adress of PIERRE DAOUST, and 9111-1111 Quebec inc, is the same, does that create any issues ?

Registration Period (Years)

Is it better to put 1 year, and to do it every year ?

"Collateral Description"

I don't see anything to write in there.

They used nice "icons"

"Extra Information"

I see the inscription number, and the SIN number to be put in there...

Is it viable to have ESC CTRL Holdings (my trustee corp) registered in Ontario? As soon as I move into my new digs I will resign from Her Majesty and the Organization. Pete Daoust is 9111-1111 Quebec inc registered in Quebec?

Yes.

9111-1111 Quebec Inc, exist since 2006...

IT,s a HOLDING corp, that already HOLD stuff for my benefit....I just have to teak it a bit, by adding some directors in it.....and maybe change its address ....

I want to change the address to a post office box but when I registered it the directions stated no post office box for address allowed. Anyone know why that is?

I too need to charter the by-laws for ESC CTRL, I know its not for profit and has the mandate to provide all necessities so that the Beneficiary lives with integrity, security and the continual improvement of living conditions. I think power of attorney is the final step once I create the express trust. Is this correct?

If the person is liened, and placed in trust, and the ECS CTRL is the trustee, I don't see the needs for a power of attorney ? :/

So it's not required to achieve the goal, ok. So if I construct the trust properly I will be grantor/beneficiary. The holding corp, of which I am sole proprietor directs ESC CTRL (TRUSTEE) to administrate (now as sole authorized administrator) the affairs of the person now in trust.

I just want to know if anyone read the long document that they signed when applying for a licence?

"...the directions stated no post office box for address allowed" This is true but I was told when I formed my ON corp this is so that someone is there to accept documents being served. I intend on updating the address to a UPS Store NOT a PO BOX since my current address for the UPS Store is #123 - 4567 Any Street, Toronto, ON

Capitain Pete, I would suggest obtaining a different address for service for the corporation. SEPARATION is important and key to asset protection in general. I was also planning to use the UPS Store address for my PERSON so that it is clear that this is not me on the Driver's Licence. Recent comments on this thread are fucking this plan up in my head though.

RE: Drivers Licence.

They didn't disclose the terms. The paper you sign, no matter WHAT it says, is not really binding. THIS is the place to put "By:" and "Non Assumpsit".

They have not disclosed the TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

"What evidence does this court have, that THE DEFENDANT has anything to do with ME"?

The courts ignore paperwork. ...I have my court date this week...they ignored all my notices as well

Well then, I guess they are offended that the principal sent an AGENT to notify them! :D

The Principal is SURETY, not the AGENT.

They always get YOU to CONFESS that YOU are the Principal, by saying, "IS THIS YOUR NAME?"

This is, of course FRAUD. YOU did not create the LEGAL name. It's NOT yours.

When did YOU APPLY for this name?

Every OTHER government document, you MUST APPLY for... so what's up with the LEGAL NAME?

Does filing paperwork into a court add more evidence of joinder?

Maybe they didn't ignore your paperwork.... maybe the clerk was like sweet here's some more ammo for our circle jerk tonight.......

Derek Moran would cry, if he missed it :D

Joinder to whom?

ALL, ACTS, CODES, STATUTES (Legal) ARE PROHIBITIVE.

If your "filed" paperwork is prohibitive, or gives NOTICE, how is that joinder?

Hmm. I would assume joinder being between a man/woman and a crown organization creating her majesty and an organization. Please correct my ignorance I'm pulling out of my ass sorry Admiral

That does not help us

A crown organization does not create "her majesty and an organization".

Stop leaving shit-stains

THESE ARE SEPARATE LEGAL ENTITIES

You and Dean Clifford are fired.

...for the same reasons.

http://youtu.be/mhko3m7D6UA

I have never been to court or filed paperwork. But I think it would be at a booth and the clerk would ask for proof of identity.

That's why I thought you had instructed to send in a notice of Mistake by registered mail with a certified copy of the birth certificate. Giving them proof of surety.

Can I sniff bags at the tsa too lol

I really see you TRYING to picture a motorcycle...

The admiral gave me the biggest hint to dissolving my shit stain and i am not getting it!!!!!!! damn my dull brain

Courts cannot recognize a man/woman. When you file paperwork with a court are you deemed a person?

You're like 14, or something, right?

I can' use the surety issue in court because I am not educated enough to verbalize so I am just using Karl Lentz advice which is very simple....Just write a note saying "You say I owe Debt?" Are you going to bring the Plaintiff forward to claim I owe debt? he leaves the "a" out.....

OK... you aren't getting it.

The Fine, trials, jail, etc, is THEIR remedy, NOT YOURS. Stop acting as if you are part of it.

The LEGAL NAME NAME DOES owe a debt!

Scott...."who is you?" right?

These ares AGENTS of the PLAINTIFF (Justice=AGENT of the plaintiff. Prosecutor=AGENT) and has AUTHORITY to BIND YOU (Joinder) ON BEHALF OF THE PLAINTIFF.

also, I have to appear before a commissioner...not judge

THEY DON'T IGNORE. SILENCE IS THEIR RESPONSE.

Silence is Acquiescence ?

YES. You can STATE ON THE RECORD that this is FACT now.

When did you consent to be brought before an administrative hearing?

when they put a hold on my drivers license

and sent it to GE services for $1997.00 which will put a warrant on me\

*Sigh*

You're fired.

http://youtu.be/mt7Jj05EaXk

If they've suspended it, then they HAD a hearing, and you didn't appear.

i know :( im doing the best i can to learn but I just have been working too many hours

no I did not appear on the original date they sent me....i sent in Notices instead

im sorry but what does this all accomplish for you Kawni? What result are you hoping to obtain?

:-D

like when i think of what i hope to achieve with this information is the simple continuation of my genetic strain by not letting my kids become fucking idiots. Its too late for me I am not learning fast enough. But maybe if i dont let fucktards fuck up my kids they can make it.

A bunch of fucking strangers are using my labour to oppress me and I am too stupid to stop it. Maybe my kids wont be.

I know how you feel.....I am a stupid cunt! right Scott?

Shhhhh! Stay pretty.

:P

:P at least I learned a little sumthing....lol

Here is what I have according to Karl:

Greetings Brad:

Hi:

I understand your going to be the traffic hearing officer presiding over this matter that is going to come before you on December 10, 2014 at 5 p.m.

�You� say i owe debt.

Are �you� going to bring the Plaintiff forward under oath to claim i owe debt?

Are "you" going to bring forward an injured man/woman with a verifiable claim?

veriable claim :D

VERIFIABLE FUCKING CLAIM!

You PAID for this?

Karl charge$ money for thi$ $hit! Just like ALL the Guru$

no I didnt pay anything....I listened to his videos

I showed you how to MAKE money. NEVER forget that :P

Kawni isnt it KAWNI GILROY they say owes a debt..?

It'$ $till $hit.

Karl Lentz does NOT grasp AGENCY. I'll say it to his face.

If he does not grasp AGENCY, he is a 2 year-old saying "2+2=4"; The ANSWER is right, but the snot-nosed little brat has NO CLUE ABOUT MATH.

I cant go in and speak....they will get me under their jurisdiction!! iim sure your right....he is very simplehsbr oIdont know the law well enough

I cant go in and speak....they will get me under their jurisdiction!! im sure your right....he is very simple

i have typos because I can only see one line of what I post...my computer is fucked up

Didn't I just fire you?

no! :)

Karl Lentz's approach is entirely different Kawni Gilroy. He is a COMMON LAW man :) Karl talks about filing a suit in response to the claim. You also have to know how to move the court since the court can't recognize what is above it specifically a man/woman.

he says not to talk in court.....If you have to talk you just say two sentences such as I am a man, if there a injured party bring him forward and I will compensate....

First Question:

Humm...sorry, I am not an EXPERT, is it a good idea if I reserve ALL rights in here ?

Hellos ?....IS IT A GOOD IDEA IF I RESERVE ALL RIGHTS IN HERE :-\

That would be reserving LEGAL RIGHTS... I don't think its your business to do that.

The downside of the Notice of Mistake is it really looks "copied" from someone who knows what it means and if you don't... well it may not help you much. Rewrite it in your own words... or, in other words, figure out what ALL OF THAT MEANS and be able to say it yourself.

And the Notice of Mistake would be an EXHIBIT, pointed out in an AFFIDAVIT which requires EVIDENCE of an injured party.

"Rewrite it in your own words."

Sure, that's what Scott always says, right? "Go ahead, CHANGE my writing"?

Don't CHANGE anything, just take the time to understand it.

I specifically remember Scott warning NOT to change the Notice of Mistake. If you don't understand it, best NOT to use it at all.

I never said CHANGE IT

Oh I see what you mean Beverly. By "Rewrite it in your own words" you meant to gain understanding of the Notice of Mistake before you use it

I imagine you would do this ONLY if you KNOW what to DO once you have reserved ALL rights.

Something tells me they might ignore you.

Is it ok if I reserve ALL rights ? :-D

More like, be able to say it... you know. And know what it means.

ALL rights. Yes.

You would then need to know how to command them, wouldn't you?

If you are there not ACTING as a "legal person" why would you reserve all LEGAL RIGHTS?

Ok, Dear Justice, I am asking you, because I am not an EXPERT, is it a good idea if I reserve ALL RIGHTS that may exist in here ? :-D

As far as I understand, legal isn't mentioned. So why not ALL?

What kind of "rights" are you reserving there then?

All OF THEM...Mine and theirs :D

Oh? YOUR legal rights? What are those?

Right... the RIGHT TO PAY :P

ALL OF THEM, now, since you bring that up Dear Justice, could you elaborate on the kinds of rights that are floating in here ? :-\

David do you have a RIGHT to be left alone? I don't think they included that...

Is the right to the SURETY of the person exist in here ? :-P

Exactly Capitaine Pete I don't know what fucking rights there are in here but now that I reserved ALL of them, for moi, that means YOU have fucking none. I know I have the right NOT to contract first and foremost. And yes Pete, there's that pesky right to the person's SURETY that they seem to not want to answer :D

Does the right to association exist in here?

Dear Justice, can I use the right to the SURETY in here ?

Dear Justice, would you be kind enough to point out to me WHERE/WHO is the party with SURETY in here ? :-P

Hellos !!

I will experiment all this on January the 30th 2015

I can just picture Pete, "Hellos?" to the justice.

Regarding "the plaintiff must appear", read this thread Kawni Gilroy https://www.facebook.com/groups/tenderforlaw/permalink/740119249357343/ and pay attention to the word PRINCIPAL (as in the one with SURETY)

So, Dear JUSTICE, is it a good idea for ME to reserve ALL rights in here today ?

I am not an expert but, I have reasons to believe a COMPETENT justice would answer YES to that question, right ? :-\

Ok...Scott, I am lost.

I get the beginning, I get the end, but I have no idea how to connect these dots in the middle.

Stop trying to do the ACCOUNTING, it''s not your job :-D

Yeah...I tried that. Then I was forced to do the Accounting

They provided proof of this?

Why are you obligated again?

I was told to give them money or go to jail.

http://reason.com/archives/2014/12/06/meet-the-reason

Pete, its supposed to be here. Anyway...NO, I am not doing that.

Why not ? :-(

ummm...read the rest of this thread....

And the 2 others I started on this topic.

WHY NOT ?

No way....all I want is reimbursement...thats it! What they put me through and did to me over a fucking license is scary

Well, I don't get it.....everytging I am saying is completely LEGAL ! :-\

Right....and everything they do is illegal. I forget who said it, but They don't give a fuck

But we know now they don't give a fuck about due process, questioning to negate understanding, questions to be answered in order to understand the cause and nature of these proceedings etc. Their rules to follow themselves or not based on a whim. Chris is unlucky that they are even more of a load of cunts where he is for the moment. We'll see more and more of this as they realise folks have educated themselves. They can't let you win, if you're lucky it may go away without them admitting defeat. They may say one thing and do another. Remember , it's not what they say it's what they do.

GREAT, if they don't give a fuck, they won't give a fuck about a lien on a security !!!... :-D

And that will increase Pbiddy's value DRASTICALLY !!! :-D

Sadly I haven't acquired Lien skills yet.My tactics at the moment would be a tacit agreement followed by a claim of breach of contract in the local small claims court (anything up to �5k that is)

I know Chris has more than a �5k problem though.

Lien skills ? :-\

^^ I don't know how to Lien any fucker yet !

Oh..! :-\

You don't lien fuckers, you lien things :-\

I find I learn best when I really have to or it doesn't sink in (Mad Cow disease) so I wait until I need to have the skill then have a go.

I know Pete just an expression.

Yep...

Mad cow disease...

:-D

Got it from Denny Crane :-)

more like hoof in mouth, I know, I excel at that

David Vilaca nice belittle a sick man.

I have genuine memory problems.

you can pull that hoof out, mad cow has 1 resolution

short term?

yes short term.

Looking back I've had it all my life

back away from the bong

Never smoked even as much as a cigarette not even one.

oh, ok, well maybe thats the problem :P

The problem is it's a fucking nuisance.

technology will soon help you recall everything in an instant

It's a real pain, I can read, comprehend and then it's gone.

I have to try especially hard for it to stick.

brain injury?

I had a motorcycle accident when 16 but nothing diagnosed, I don't know if it was there before that , 20 feet in the air and landed on my head.

my biggest problem is still resolving conflicting information, purging a lifelong program has been hard on me in many ways

Got up and walked away, adrenalin, quick look over at the hospital then home.

I have had a fair share of knocks, still. I'm a semi-evolved chimp who made this far

David Vilaca I understand that but now find that part easier, revert occasionally of course. The programming is strong. But the will stronger.

We can only do our best and as we go on our best gets better.

Apologies for clogging your thread Chris Evan

Fuck, is this thread just turned into a bullshit thread ? :-P

You fucked the elite thread :-)

I forgot what I was doing, I have an excuse :-P

All right...so back to ME! ME acting as AGENT of a PRINCIPAL gave the court cash. Now ME has a negative corpus. ME only wants reimbursement.

How come the court doesn't accept checks? :-D

what did they accept ?

They won't...

Cash

Yes Pete...I know! :-D

Offer God's love as their consideration in the matter.

Do you mean by allowing them to refer to me as "Your Grace"? :-P

I'm going to delet that and fuck off before I get in treouble

Let me open the laptop :-D

no Maximus, don't...then my comment won't make sense

Aye Your Grace lol

:/

^^^ I know I know, just nonsense, I once heard of a fool offer exactly that :-)

Yes I am YOUR GRACE just wondering what you want Maximus Legis :P Seriously though your memory seems fine as I had asked the Admiral about what that meant. Do you remember which thread that was Chris? :/

It has it's good times David.

"Remember , it's not what they say it's what they do." Maximus Legis Ha ha ha! Judge a man by his actions not by his words :D "Justice" Tom McKeough agrees that I am not the PERSON and that the PERSON is indeed separate from the man lol!

What? David-Paul?

All I know is I am not that person and they have no authority to attach any person derived from a public document to me for purposes of imposing surety upon me . That has stayed in good and proper. And it's nice and simple.

YOUR GRACE...you, me and the Admiral talked about this in another thread. Do you remember Chris? I want to go back and read that again :)

I think so and I was a Cunt to you David-Paul Sip, for that I apologise . That would have been another time maybe but the apology still stands.

I remember, yes....which thread, I do not

Go to the anthology and do a find for "Your Grace". It should come right up!

I recall...apology accepted brother Maximus Legis :D Will have to do that Chris! If I printed or "copy a pasta" everything of value I read in the TTFL when I saw it it would become a full-time fucking project :(

Luckily, we have a guy in here who does just that!

^^ The Minimus !! :-)