The Tender For Law

Volume 4

Dec 05, 2013 2:18 PM

Eamonn O Brien

"Notice of Mistake or Discharge..."

So I received this today... It is NOT relating to my previous encounter with them. This happened 2 weeks later... (I must sound like a right troublemaker!)

I was asked to pull in due to having no tax disc on the car (The Guard actually passed me, then having seen the lack of disc, turned his lights on and pursued me along a road through a housing estate until finally catching up to me and signalling at me to pull over.)

I was close to home so I pulled into the drive. Not wanting to have the car taken from me again I gave the license when asked. He went to his car for a few mins then returned and gave me the license back stating, "If you had have pulled in anywhere else I'd take that car off ya"... I thanked him for not doing so and they left...

My first thoughts are to issue the Notice of Mistake as I have clearly mislead An Garda Siochana into thinking I want to engage in a commercial contract with them as a party with surety. Pete Daoust will obviously opt to encourage the discharge approach :p

So any thoughts please share. I'll probably opt for the Notice but just thought I'd share with the group anyway. I haven't used the NoM yet so it will be interesting to see what they say...

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Pete Daoust

And you can, in the mean time, tell them WHO you are, if you decide to do so....

I am the SOLE authorized administrator for EAMONN O'BRIEN

And EAMONN O'BRIEN's surety is .....the government, so here is the administration process I use to discharge this debt sent to EAMONN O'BRIEN.

You have 10 day to REFUSE this administration process, or to advise me about ANY defect on the instrument

With ALL my LOVE.

BY:__________________________ Sole authorized administrator for EAMONN O'BRIEN Inscription no. XXXXXXX

:D

August le Blanc

Scott suggested it here. It is powerful. Void Definiton: That which is null and completely without legal force or binding effect.

The term void has a precise meaning that has sometimes been confused with the more liberal term voidable. Something that is voidable may be avoided or declared void by one or more of the parties, but such an agreement is not void per se.

A void contract is not a contract at all because the parties are not, and cannot be, bound by its terms. Therefore, no action can be maintained for breach of a void contract, and it cannot be made valid by ratification. Because it is nugatory, a void contract need not be rescinded or otherwise declared invalid in a court of law.

A void marriage is one that is invalid from its inception. In contrast to a voidable marriage, the parties to a void marriage may not ratify the union by living together as Husband and Wife. No Divorce or Annulment is required. Nevertheless, parties frequently do seek, and are permitted to seek, such a decree in order to remove any doubt about the validity of the marriage. Unlike a voidable marriage, a void marriage can be challenged even after the death of one or both parties.

In most jurisdictions a bigamous marriage, one involving a person who has a living spouse from an undissolved prior marriage, is void from the outset. In addition, statutes typically prohibit marriage between an ancestor and descendant; between a brother and a sister (whether related by whole blood, half blood, or Adoption); and between an uncle and niece or aunt and nephew.

A judgment entered by a court is void if a court lacks jurisdiction over the parties or subject matter of a lawsuit. A void judgment may be entirely disregarded without a judicial declaration that the judgment is void and differs from an erroneous, irregular, or voidable judgment. In practice, however, an attack on a void judgment is commonly used to make the judgment's flaw a matter of public record.

A law is considered void on its face if its meaning is so vague that persons of ordinary intelligence must guess at its meaning and may differ as to the statute's application (Connally v. General Construction Co., 269 U.S. 385, 46 S. Ct. 126, 70 L. Ed. 2d 322 [1926]). due process requires that citizens receive fair notice of what sort of conduct to avoid. For example, a Cincinnati, Ohio, city ordinance made it a criminal offense for three or more persons to assemble on a sidewalk and conduct themselves in a manner that was annoying to passersby. A conviction carried the possibility of a $50 fine and between one and thirty days imprisonment. The U.S. Supreme Court reversed the convictions of several persons found guilty of violating the ordinance after a demonstration and picketing (Coates v. Cincinnati, 402 U.S. 611, 91 S. Ct. 1686, 29 L. Ed. 2d 214 [1971]). The Court ruled that the ordinance was unconstitutionally vague because it subjected citizens to an unascertainable standard. Stating that "conduct that annoys some people does not annoy others," the Court said that the ordinance left citizens to guess at the proper conduct required. The Court noted that the city could lawfully prohibit persons from blocking the sidewalks, littering, obstructing traffic, committing assaults, or engaging in other types of undesirable behavior through "ordinances directed with reasonable specificity toward the conduct to be prohibited."

Pete Daoust

Bill of Exchange. Here�s HOW I do it, and WHY�..

The first step is definitely to open the mailbox, now, that mailbox is not even MY mailbox if I really THINK about it, it�s the person named PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX is mailbox, I just happen to be the SOLE authorized ADMINISTRATOR for this person right ?

So, as a good administrator, I have the key for this mailbox, and I go there EVERYDAY.

Anyway, I open the mailbox, and HA HA�!!!!.....a bill of exchange is in it

Now, this Bill of Exchange is addressed to the person I happen to be the SOLE authorized administrator�.it is addressed to PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, so, as the SOLE authorized administrator, I have to open that envelop and TAKE CARE of that matter.

So let say the City of Montreal sent to PIERRE DAOUST this bill of exchange, and it says on it $295.00, now, WHO owe $295 to the City of Montreal ?, yes, it�s PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX.

Now, what do I do with this, mmhhh, �..I see 2 choices.

1). I can, yes �ME�, I can buy back this debt, and use some Bank Notes and go to the post office to buy a money-order and send it to the City of Montreal, and they will balance their book with this. I can NOT send the Bank Notes (cash) to them, they won�t ACCEPT it, I wonder WHY ?

2). I can DISCHARGE this debt for PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, because the truth is that this bill of exchange has been commenced by the City of Montreal for PIERRE DAOUST, because they ASSUME that PIERRE DAOUST is too ignorant to do it, so they commenced it��they are the BENEFICIARY party to this bill of exchange, and PIERRE DAOUST is the DRAWER party to this bill of exchange.

Now, we are missing one party, because a bill of exchange has 3 parties, the BENEFICIARY, the DRAWER and the DRAWEE.

WHO is the drawee for this bill of exchange ?.....I need to find where is the SURETY of this PERSON named PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, and when I�ll find that, I will be able to KNOW who is the drawee.

Drawee: The party on which an order for the payment of money is drawn. Drawer: One that draws, especially one that draws an order for the payment of money.

I will NOT explaine this one in details, but I have very good reasons to believe that the drawee has to be The Bank of Canada, because the SURETY for PIERRE DAOUST is definitely the Government, since they have created PIERRE DAOUST, and on the CERTIFICATE that prove its creation, the signature is the government signature, so therefor, the SURETY, and since the Bank of Canada is the government�s bank, I am sure that the ORIGINAL certificate of PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, is sitting in their building. So the DRAWEE is the Bank of Canada.

So, as one of the BEST sole authorized administrator in town, Here is HOW I do it.

I turn this Bill of Exchange on the Private side (Back), and I take out my STAMPS

The first stamp says:

ACCEPTED BY:______________ (I sign there)

The 2nd stamps say: DATE

The third says: ACCOUNT NO. 26X-XXX-XXX or 119XXXXXXXXXXX

And the fourth says: Bill of Exchange ACT (1985)

I have good reasons to believe that this COMPLETE that bill of exchange, turn it into a �check� and discharge the debt.

I include a small one page letter with it giving EXPLAINATION on what I�m doing.

I send the Bill of exchange COMPLETE to the bank of Canada registered mail, and one copy to the benefiary, in this case, City of Montreal, to make sure they KNOW I have done my duty

Eamonn O Brien

"this bill of exchange has been commenced by the City of Montreal for PIERRE DAOUST, because they ASSUME that PIERRE DAOUST is too ignorant to do it, so they commenced it��they are the BENEFICIARY party to this bill of exchange, and PIERRE DAOUST is the DRAWER party to this bill of exchange."

That section confuses me...Is the second PIERRE DAOUST meant to be you Pete?

Harold Austerman

An UNrebutted Affadavit Stands as TRUTH!!! send em one with Questions they cant answer, what is cash,how does one pay a debt with Debt script??? etc Notorize, Stipulate that all Truth is spoken in Affidavit form(sworn) let them default! Pete Daoust is this the Long way to get what do by Administrating, the way you do???

Eamonn O Brien

In the strictest technical sense, a cheque is an instruction from you to your bank, to pay a quantity of money out of your account to someone you have named.

Once you have issued a cheque to your creditor, he can if he wishes collect this money by submitting the cheque before a teller at an office of your bank. Your account will be debited for the amount concerned, and he will receive the money.

But most of the time, he will deposit it in his own account and let his bank make the necessary arrangements with your bank. Your account will be debited, and his account will be credited, for the amount concerned... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

So by sending the BoE to the bank they exchange that currency into money of account and AN GARDA SIOCHANA's account is thus able to be credited...

I think I'm understanding it. It'll be great if it works! :D

Pete Daoust

Of course it will works !!!...look at what you've wrote

Eamonn: In the strictest technical sense, a cheque is an instruction from you to your bank, to pay a quantity of money out of your account to someone you have named.

Pete: In the strictest technical sense, a cheque is an instruction from an authorized administrator of a PERSON's bank, to pay a quantity of money out of The Person's account to someone the administrator have named.

Only PERSONS can have bank acooiunts....no MAN can, impossible :P

Eamonn O Brien

It's the creation of the credit/money of account I'm trying to process in my head... Once I sign the back of the ticket have I created a financial instrument that can be accepted by the bank as value and thus deposited?

Eamonn O Brien

Legal money = 2 signatures and a trustee

Signatures are mine and the GARDA seal; and the Government bank are the trustee as they hold surety for EAMONN O BRIEN. I just have to hold them accountable because up until now I've been buying debt :p

Beverly Berta Braakschmack

From what I understand, being that we are shareholders of the "country" we live in, and dividends of the revenues of the resources, etc. is the CREDIT to which these DEBTS can be discharged. Basically since real currency is gone, we can only pay a debt through this CREDIT. Otherwise, like a collection agency we could PURCHASE a DEBT (privately). But unlike a collection agency, we have nobody to try to sell it to... get it?

Eamonn O Brien

Understanding what money is makes alot more sense now too.

Birth is registered, government lodges it as a security and gives you a person to give value to that represents that security. They lie through omission by not telling us how to use it both ways

David Johansen

their issue is with the vehicle, tell them to take it up with the vehicle, I have nothing to do with that. send them a rebuttal notice that says, you notice their notice and presume they were deceived in some manner and are attempting to put that responsibility upon you for some reason, ASK if it is a bill of exchange? and since you know their is no money, only credit and/or debt YOU request ALL means of discharging such a debt according to the bills of exchange act.

Anibal Jose Baez

<<ADMINISTRATORS ARE TRUSTEES.>> Scott Duncan

We are acting in the capacity of trustees of the government when discharging debt as sole administrators for the name. But with "limited liability", because we are performing trust duties, "we" are not surety for the name.

Howard Posehn

Be prepared to go to the wall on this Eamonn O Brien. After I sent the NoM, they ignored and sent back a letter saying that they accepted the not guilty plea and set a court date. I went there for answers on the court date and was arrested and lead out in handcuffs and told not to come back. They said that the charges had been dismissed. It was funny actually. The notice of mistake works. They just don't want to give in. They want to know how far you will push it. I was prepared to, if needed, staple copies to all 3, clerk, fake crossdresser, and prosticutors foreheads if that's what it took to get them to read it. They really hate losing!

Howard Posehn

From Scott Duncan: "The court must accept forgiveness because that is what the Authority must do. That is what gives authority. When you make a mistake there is no hostile intent, and since there is no hostile intent in a mistake, the court cannot �Claim Conflict.� So if you cannot forgive, you HAVE NO AUTHORITY!" There you have it. And that's the kind of day it's been this 23rd day of December, 2013. From Scott to you, VIA me, you're welcome.

Eamonn O Brien

**UPDATE**

On 24th Dec the GARDA SIOCHANA received my NOTICE OF MISTAKE along with their original documentation which I had returned with it. They stamped their returned letter as received with the date.

They have returned their original paperwork, KEPT MY NOTICE, and have sent a response letter complete with WET SIGNATURE and COMPANY SEAL.

I don't have my scanner to hand but the letter reads...

Mr Eamonn O Brien xxxxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx

Dear Mr. O Brien

I refer to your letter of 23 December 2013 in relation to the above fixed penalty notice.

You were stopped in person by a member of An Garda Siochana and your name, address and date of birth and driving license details were given at the time of the alleged offence. (All untrue besides the license part, which isn't even mine)...

(The rest of the letter is busy work)

They go onto say the department I sent my notice to is just a processing office and any queries should be sent to the superintendant in my local sation.

I HAVE NO QUERIES. A MISTAKE HAS BEEN MADE AS I HAVE BEEN MISTAKENLY IDENTIFIED AS A PARTY WITH SURETY WHO MAY HAVE QUERIES...

I remember Suil Eile had a similar response from the court, wet signature and seal after keeping his notice...They haven't named my notice in their response.

"They acknowledged receiving them. BY NAME. You now have PROPER NOTICE. They now have KNOWLEDGE of your position.

They are now SOLE SURETY in ANY LEGAL MATTER regarding your name." - Scott

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So is it the same situation here? Make a couple notarised copies, endorse the original with my signature on the reverse side and send it back with a brief response? Legal money, paid, account closed, administrated, end of?

Pierre, Blake, Chris...

My understanding is by their acknowledgement of their receipt of my NoM they have taken notice of my position as "not surety". So by responding in the way they have they are seeking that I endorse the new offer as administrator and administrate it...

Eamonn O Brien

I didn't give any details at all. Remember this isn't the audio recording incident. This is separate...

He asked for a license so I gave him A license. He went to his car, came back and then gave me back the license and left.

They're making the rest up...

Besides that, I now have a trustee and a wet signature...

Eamonn O Brien

I probably will now Pierre. If it's just a case of signing the back with a short response then I can do that.

Your procedure of naming account no's threw me slightly... I'll sign the back with a response and send it back to them...

Eamonn O Brien

So the Government (EAMONN O BRIEN) are writing a cheque to AN GARDA SIOCHANA through the drawee CENTRAL BANK OF IRELAND...

But they need my authorisation because I am lawful holder of the financial instrument pertaining to that account? :(

Eamonn O Brien

So my short response could be -

"Pat Costello, I have acknowledged your receipt of my notice dated .....

I acknowledge your acceptance of my position relating to this matter as a party without surety.

I hereby authorise the process of this bill...

by SIGNATURE, Sole authorised administrator for the legal person EAMONN O BRIEN, Non Assumpsit, All Rights Reserved, In Good Faith

Eamonn O Brien

I just remembered back in primary school teachers would tell us to put brackets around any mistake we made while writing... Removing it from the page? Random thought... They did teach us something after all!

Eamonn O Brien

Just a quick question and I'll prob be virtually slapped for asking but in relation to legal money being created, 2 signatures and a trustee, who is the trustee in the above response by Pat Costello?

There's Pat's signature, mine on the back but if An Garda Siochana are to be beneficiaries is EAMONN O BRIEN acting trustee?; as EAMONN O BRIEN is Government?

The response is about 15 posts up, not the original post.... Pierre, Chris, Scott

August le Blanc

Surety can be advantageous, everyone is so focused avoiding it, not paying, that it detracts from actual value of what is shared here. First we must learn to avoid it, then we must learn to accept it thru some one else� It causes mind breakage� Which is good, then one is teachable.

Eamonn O Brien

So...

Garda - "We have a bill of exchange we want you to authorise"

Me - "Ok, I can do that as i have been entrusted with the ad-ministerial duties for EAMONN O BRIEN. I'll just sign the back for you boys and authorise the process of the bill...There ya go..."

Garda - "Thanks Eamonn... We'll send this over to the Central bank so they can administrate it and contact the trustees to let them know their account is to be debited..."

Me - "Ye whatever ye shower of shite..." :p

Pete Daoust

:D

Garda - "Fuck You Eamonn... We'll send this over to the Central bank so they can administrate it and contact the trustees to let them know their account is to be debited...", BUT WE WILL TRY HARD TO MAKE YOU BUY BACK THAT FUCKING DEBT :D

Eamonn O Brien

It says "you can pay by cheque, postal order, cash etc at any Post Office..."

So the Post Office act as a currency exchange in this instance exchanging cash into money of account and discharging the account...

I'd rather use the cheque they started for me though... :D