Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:45 AM
It looks weird that you are approving my posts Pete. :-) But thank you Sir!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:51 AM
Same feeling on this side :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:53 AM
Drivers License = a PERMISSION granted to a PERSON http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/license


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:53 AM
Yes. In the form of a Legal Title, correct?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:54 AM
Second, the Certificate of Live Birth is an Equitable Title, correct? No, it's a CERTIFICATE :P http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/certificate


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:54 AM
You look like a fucking LEGAL TITLE :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:56 AM
Well, certificate has A LOT of meanings: A document (such as a birth certificate) prepared by an official during the course of his or her regular duties, and which may be used as evidence for certain purposes. A stock certificate is a paper representing a share of stock in a corporation that has been purchased by its holder.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:57 AM
What's a "Driving offense" ?? :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:57 AM
A violation of Massachusetts General Laws ch 89 or 90 as far as I know!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:58 AM
LOL....and WHO gets to be the VIOLATOR ? :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:59 AM
NAME...but I am asking about how the mechanics of it work.


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Shelagh McFarlane

Dec 03, 2013 3:02 AM
I thought the title was split & they keep legal title (of everything) & you only have equitable title. Equitable just means a right of use. The drivers license & BC would both be both - govt holds legal, you hold equitable. confused


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:02 AM
The mechanics ???.... hummm 1). a person gets created 2). you get to be misled about you being that person 3). they presume you as one of their employee as the person 4). They get to hit you, being a person, with 3000 acts and statutes Hellosss.. !!! :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:03 AM
But hey, if you guys wants to complicate that shit to a level where it gets impossible to comprehend......IT'S YOUR RIGHT :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:03 AM
No one is listening down here Pete Daoust!!!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:03 AM
I am trying to understand where I am going wrong


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:04 AM
Ho, I can help you with that too :D


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Shelagh McFarlane

Dec 03, 2013 3:04 AM
shoot...


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Shelagh McFarlane

Dec 03, 2013 3:04 AM
please


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:05 AM
It's ALL ABOUT THE FUCKING SURETY, and WHO THE FUCK ACCOUNTS FOR IT :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:05 AM
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:06 AM
and they don't care! At all! I am sending out the second notice tomorrow trying to make them respond....but so far, they are just proceeding.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:07 AM
So I guess you can't understand the Nature and cause of these proceedings ???.....don't you ??? :(


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:08 AM
That would be a mistake to presume that...and my notice says that!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:09 AM
You should eradicate off of your brain, the words, EQUITY and EQUITABLE until Febuary 2014 :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:10 AM
Focus on SURETY, THEY ARE FUCKING AROUND WITH IT.......and tell them you would ACCEPT a bill to clear off that shit :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:12 AM
And if you want the person you happen to have in your pocket, to DRIVE CARS.....well make that slave get a license to do so :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:13 AM
Seriously Chris Evan.....tell them you would ACCEPT a bill to clear off that shit :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:14 AM
Pete, the penalty is more that just money. These criminals want to put me in a cage. What is a bill going to do?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:17 AM
Ok, but then you have two choices 1).Re-read and Re-read and Re-read Ceit Butler exposure, and DO IT 2). Call these guys and OFFER them to send you a BILL to clear the matter. DO NOTHING ELSE than these two things Good Luck !!! Pete.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:18 AM
If you waiste your time on some pseud-equitable shit, you will END UP IN FUCKING JAIL :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:18 AM
Thanks....and I am following Ceit's path! Just looking for more knowledge on this!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:18 AM
More knowledge ??? :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:19 AM
If you just DO that, and you succeed...it will be not to bad of a KNOWLEDGE ?? :/


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:21 AM
I liked you better before you got the ban button! :-P I just had to be the first to say that!!!! :-D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:22 AM
Me, I hate you now !!!! :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:22 AM
That must come with getting the ban button.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:23 AM
pre-requisite :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:26 AM
This helps too....for the umpteenth time: surety n. a guarantor of payment or performance if another fails to pay or perform, such as a bonding company which posts a bond for a guardian, an administrator, or a building contractor. Most surety agreements require that a person looking to the surety (asking for payment) must first attempt to collect or obtain performance from the responsible person or entity.


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 3:30 AM
its both...derka derka...is it not property of another that one takes beneficial use of? was it not offered and then, was it taken? has value been attached to it by the beneficial user?.Hmmmm.....sounds like equitable title to me? Equitable title is the beneficial interest of a "person" whom equity regards as the real owner but the legal right vests with another.


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:31 AM
Whats both?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:33 AM
OK, the equity is what's left over when ALL DEBTS are gone right ? Unfortunatly, they are NOT gone, especially in the USA :D So good luck with EQUITY :D


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 3:33 AM
Pete Daoust Second, the Certificate of Live Birth is an Equitable Title, correct? No, it's a CERTIFICATE ...See More 38 minutes ago � Like..........its both


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 3:34 AM
go ahead bake your cake w/o the eggs


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:35 AM
Last time I have checked, PIERRE DAOUST, the person, was PUBLICALLY minus 58k in debt :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:35 AM
So, its a "Certificate of Equitable Title"?


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:35 AM
In debt to who?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:35 AM
I wonder HOW CHRIS SCHULTE is..... :D


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 3:36 AM
uggghhh


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:36 AM
I have good reasons to believe that CHRISTOPHER EVAN SCHULTE is in debt to me


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:36 AM
What do I care ??? ......its ALL debts....and I have NOTHING to do with it :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:37 AM
In debt to YOU :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:37 AM
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:37 AM
ok Rick Carne....I am listening. But I don't understand the cake analogy. Can you use one involving ...ummm....construction? :)


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:38 AM
:D ^^


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:38 AM
Yeah Rick Carne, fuck off with the cooking :D


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 3:38 AM
how long will you structure stand with out load bearing walls???


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 3:39 AM
lick my eggs, pepe la pew


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:40 AM
not long....load bearing walls = claim. Am I understanding this?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 3:41 AM
A driver's license allows a PERSON to register PROPERTY to her majesty (split title or create a trust on property: one of legal ownership, one of beneficial use). The legal owner will always be SURETY. And something about driving...


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:43 AM
So....No driver's license, can't register properties to her majesty ?? :/


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 3:44 AM
They typically ask to see that person in your pocket? Correct?


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:45 AM
I still don't get the analogy.....


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:46 AM
OK, so if the person I happen to have in my pocket, has no drivers license, this person can't register a car.....is that what you are saying ?? :/


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 3:47 AM
Yes!


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 3:49 AM
You register it to get a license plate so you can drive around... You can go buy a car and keep it in your garage all you want. But as soon as it is on the road it requires a plate, with a driver...


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:50 AM
Who told you that ?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 3:52 AM
I'm pretty sure each and every time I've registered a car they have wanted to see a Driver's License... Never once have they not asked to see it. For the sake of it being expired, or fines attached, etc.


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 3:53 AM
If the registration is in the name of a corporation, incorporated business, or LLC, a Power of Attorney is required, unless the person signing is the officer of the company or manager/member of the LLC. The person�s title must be printed after the signature, (i.e. John Doe, Vice President). Proof of insurance in the name of the business must be presented at the time of registration and will serve as verification of business name.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 3:53 AM
And insurance...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 3:54 AM
Yes, or that...


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:54 AM
Beverly and Rick, do you think I can have the person I happen to have in my pocket buy a car, and have that car registered and have a plate, without a DRIVER'S LICENSE, if I say it's true


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 3:54 AM
in conneticut...No Identification - Special Review: If someone does not have any of the required forms of identification, he or she can request an administrative review to determine eligibility to register a vehicle. You must complete and submit A Request for Administrative Review (form B-360). Review process may take up to 30 days. The review process: � Determines whether you are a Connecticut resident and subject to state law regarding residency for registration requirements. � Determines a need to register the vehicle in Connecticut. � Determines who will operate the vehicle and is properly licensed. (Please Note: The use of passport is primarily associated with obtaining a driver's license. It is not used as a form of identification for registering a vehicle.)


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 3:55 AM
And, then the insurance company (for me anyways) wants a driving record and name(s), license no(s) of each and every driver.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:56 AM
The INsurance company has nothing to do in this picture AS OF YET.....the insurance company wants to know WHO WILL DRIVE....


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:57 AM
It dosen't mean that the person who buy and register the car is the DRIVER


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 3:58 AM
you dont need an Insurance company you can you can bond yourself with a surety company! Hahahahaa the mini-mun in California is 35,000 and you would post a percentage of that. with the surety company...if its a company vehicle thaey dont care who the driver is....


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:58 AM
A driver's license allows a PERSON to register PROPERTY to her majesty ....this is not true A driver's license allows a person to drive a car....nothing more....


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 3:59 AM
A LEGAL ENTITY AND/OR PERSON can register a vehicle, creating a trust, bla bla bla


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:59 AM
HAHAHA!!! :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:00 AM
And Rick Carne, you should move to Quebec :P


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:02 AM
Point being, anything APPLIED for would become a TRUST...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:02 AM
Marriage license...


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:05 AM
Point being... A driver's license allows a PERSON to register PROPERTY to her majesty ....this is not true A driver's license allows a person to drive a car....nothing more.... :D :D :D ..... :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 4:05 AM
ahhhh....now I am starting to get the analogy. hmmmmm.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:06 AM
It's about time :D ....what analogy though :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 4:11 AM
ALL of them


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 4:12 AM
try buying alcohol with out one hahahaa...and Pete their aint no surf in Quebec


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 4:13 AM
course you could use the person on the passport...hahahaha


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:14 AM
So unfair to say NOT to use your BC as ID and then require it.... WTF? What is the name for that? Ambiguous?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:16 AM
That's like a teacher giving you shit for smoking in the bathroom and then telling you that is the only place you can smoke... reminds me of my father... :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:16 AM
They are requiring it to CHARGE, not as ID ? :/


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:18 AM
I guess that is the "warning label"... like causes heart disease, personal problems, debt... :D


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:19 AM
...fines, court disasters, etc


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:20 AM
...general confusion about who you are...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:20 AM
Pete! make a picture/word thingy!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:21 AM
Every time they ask for the BC, it's because they are CHARGING something on it....it is NOT for identification purpose...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:22 AM
Oh, I know... but try to get a driver's license without it... or passport... sorry but I want to go to Vegas again!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:22 AM
Do you remember Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma when they use to CALL YOUR NAME in the classroom and you had to say PRESENT ??? It all started there :D


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 4:23 AM
birth certificate,Social security and drivers license all vest in the living man...VEST=confer or bestow (power, authority, property, etc.) on someone.


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 4:25 AM
they all need a monkey to move


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:26 AM
PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here The day after, PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here After a while, it's obvious that I MUST BE PIERRE DAOUST :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:28 AM
Now Chris Evan, they want you to act the exact same way on the 19th :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:29 AM
What would you think would have happened if I would have said to the teacher....HEY, I AM NOT PIERRE DAOUST, I HAVE PIERRE DAOUST, so fuck you :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:30 AM
Little pete in the corner ?? :D


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 4:30 AM
well if you were in Catholic school that fricken Nun would beat the shit outta you with a ruler. hahahaha


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:31 AM
EXACTLY....happened to me twice :D


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:33 AM
So Derek... something you posted earlier I glanced at today... About the LBR being the SECURITY OF THE PERSON? I was with the understanding that the BC is EVIDENCE of this... Since we're on this topic again...


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 4:34 AM
it is a transmitting utility for commerce....hahaaa


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Rick Carne

Dec 03, 2013 4:35 AM
Utility..a conduit for information...look it up...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:35 AM
Yes, because Canada is bankrupt and needs securities to carry on...


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Derek Moran

Dec 03, 2013 4:36 AM
Im just tryin' to finish a page out of 'Pete's-Trust-Law-Book' before the library closes, Beverly... :*


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:38 AM
Kisses? 80


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:39 AM
Security Protection; assurance; indemnification. The term security is usually applied to a deposit, lien, or mortgage voluntarily given by a debtor to a creditor to guarantee payment of a debt. Security furnishes the creditor with a resource to be sold or possessed in case of the debtor's failure to meet his or her financial obligation. In addition, a person who becomes a surety for another is sometimes referred to as a "security."


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:39 AM
Now, how the LBR could be this ????


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:40 AM
Because it was the APPLYING part? I dunno... asking CLUBHOUSE DEREK where that came from...


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:40 AM
I see more the LBR as the CREDITOR :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:41 AM
THE BC the DEBTOR....


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:41 AM
Maybe that is the CLAIM to the CREDITOR... :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:41 AM
The Bank of Canada the SECURITY :D


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:41 AM
The originating grantor...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:42 AM
Ah, therein showing WHOM has beneficial interest


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:42 AM
LBR (Me) CREDITOR BC (Person) DEBTOR Bank of Canada SECURITY Is that sounds fair ? :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:43 AM
Without ME, no debt is possible, and without debt, no security is needed :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:44 AM
It makes perfect sense !! :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:44 AM
NO ? :(


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:45 AM
Now, Chris Evan, point out to me where you see the fucking EQUITY in all this ? :D


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 4:46 AM
debt is possible without you... just not to your PERSON


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 4:47 AM
hmmm....we don't have any Birth Certificates in Massachusetts


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:47 AM
Well Beverly Girl-Brain, No "ME" = No PERSON....


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:47 AM
No me = No debt


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Derek Moran

Dec 03, 2013 4:51 AM
A big factor in all this with the BC that flies under the radar Beverly, is the CONVEYANCE, of the powers of DISPOSITION and/or POWERS OF APPOINTMENT.....i BELIEVE, your Alberta 'Conveyancing and Law of Property Act' gives the definitions, as our same Act in Ontario, DOES NOT


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:53 AM
Haaa shit Derek Moran, I was following good here, and you come along with this complicated shit again :(


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:53 AM
Fuck it, I am going back in the other group :P


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Derek Moran

Dec 03, 2013 4:54 AM
"Fuck it, I am going back in the other group" ..some 'admin' - pffffft! ;)


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 4:57 AM
Anyway, Chris Evan, I hope all of this answers your quick questions ? :D


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 5:09 AM
Ok Derek, but does the BC NOT clearly show whom has legal ownership, therefore SURETY? With all em lil signatures, etc?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 5:11 AM
Chris, do you have that bawston accent?


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:12 AM
Yup! Norah, Derek, Mackximus, and Gail will probably all vouch for that!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:13 AM
I definitely pahk the cah in Havahd Yahd. But I get alotta idears...not all wicked good


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:17 AM
I hate people with accent :(


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:18 AM
I thinks I ams gonnas kills myselfs :(


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 5:18 AM
My mama has an accent... it took high school and friends asking me about it to realize it... :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:19 AM
Where is she from?


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:19 AM
Mathew, do you have the accent?


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:20 AM
Chris TOTALLY has an accent! Baaaaawstun.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:20 AM
Why didn't you interviwed Chris Norah ? :D


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:21 AM
He left before I could get the interview. We only have 1 camera. And it was already in use. I would have though!


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Dec 03, 2013 5:21 AM
Hey Chris, what do you think about the seminar so far. Ha well, it's soooooo cool....I mean FFFRRREEEEEDDDDDUUUMMMMBBBB !!!!!!!!!! :D :D HAHAHAHA!!!!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:22 AM
Well....I think the seminar is good, but no one will send me a bill or a signed invoice. :-/


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:22 AM
^^^^ I said that to Dean Clifford


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:23 AM
Fuck, if I knew I could have passed on TV..!!!....fuck I should have go....fffuuccckk!!!!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:23 AM
Dude, i told you, but you were being a Mary!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:23 AM
Why you guys are so full of secrets ?? :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:24 AM
YOU NEVER TOLD ME ABOUT THE TV THING CHRIS.. :(


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:25 AM
I thought it was obvious. Didn't you see Dean mentioning all this new A/V equipment he was buying before the seminar??? What did you think he was gonna do with it?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 5:25 AM
only for freedumb porn... that's what it was for!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:26 AM
Shit.....DEAN, TV, COPS, ROPE, ADMIRAL, for $149.00.......shit fuck .....I feel so fucking stupid of not been there :(


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:26 AM
What the hell are you guys talking about. On TV?


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:26 AM
Plus, I killed a guy....you forgot that


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:26 AM
Was the video used on TV????


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:26 AM
On my TV, yes


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:27 AM
He is French Canadian....He means video


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 5:27 AM
Interweb is my tv


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:27 AM
On the Television?


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:27 AM
Like on the news??


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:27 AM
HOLY SHIT, I was on TV?!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:27 AM
NO NO NO fuck, I have seen it all on my 60 inches screen TV, don't try to fuck me up here :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:28 AM
Mackximus Minimus... :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:28 AM
We want to obey the LAW... :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:28 AM
HAHAHAHA!!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:29 AM
WRONG FUCKING SEMINAR HAHAHAHAHAAH!!!! (oh fuck I am laughing now :D )


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:29 AM
what the hell is going on!?


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:29 AM
Its turning into a Fucks the Puppy thread....welcome Norah, this is what we get to put up with


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:30 AM
You haven't seen your TV shot, with all these freemans ? (except Mackximus Minimus )


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:31 AM
I grow brocolli, and I eat them, it's so fun heu heu heu :D :D


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:31 AM
:D it's all good Chris.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:31 AM
I gotta to get out and smoke a cigarette guys.......too much laughing, I'll wake up everyone in here :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:34 AM
Fuck I would have gave another $149, just to see Chris Evan on my big screen Answering Norah Holloway's question: Hey Chris, what do you think about the seminar so far :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:36 AM
Chris Evan's answer I don't know Norah, this place is filled with fucking fuctard with long hair, me, I have no hair, so what the fuck you want me to tell you ? :D :D ....ok I am out for a smoke :D


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:38 AM
:D what. the. hell. is. going. on? lol. Chris, I will interview you next time!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:39 AM
Camera or no camera?


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:39 AM
....camera. definitely camera.


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:39 AM
Perfect!!! Count me in!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:40 AM
Lol


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:40 AM
PETE! you can send me your $149!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:41 AM
FFFREEEEEDDDUMMMBBBB !!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:42 AM
You guys are WILD !!!!......you have no idea :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:42 AM
I thought freedom cost a buck o five....


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:42 AM
OH snap! Buck-o-five. freedom costs a buck-o-five.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:43 AM
I have no idea about Buck-o-Five :/


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 5:43 AM
Snap? Watching Raising Hope much?


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:43 AM
No, what's raising hope?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 5:44 AM
The only place I've ever heard that before :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:45 AM
Its from a movie called Team America


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:45 AM
Ohhhh, no way. I've been saying that for years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE8BgQzyktE


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:45 AM
freedom noun affranchisement, arbitrium, autonomy, civil liberty, decontrol, deliverance, discharge, disenthrallment, emancipation, empowerment, enfranchisement, entitlement, exemption, exemption from external control, exemption from restraint, extrication, franchise, franchisement, independence, leave, leeway, legal right, liberation, libertas, liberty, licentia, noninterference, permit, political independdnce, prerogative, privilege, redemption, relaxation of control, release, right to decide, room, self-determination, self-government, self-rule, unconstraint, unfettering, unrestraint


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:46 AM
Fuck.....the word " discharge" is there :/


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:46 AM
nice...freedom=discharge. :-D and legal right :-/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:46 AM
Legal rights is for PERSONS :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:47 AM
PERSONS can't be free.... :-/


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:47 AM
PERSONS aren't. They aren't free.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:47 AM
NOPE....persons = slaves :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:48 AM
And I have one heck of a nice slave in my pocket :D ......and IT'S NOT MY FAULT :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:49 AM
You Norah Holloway, you have an INDIAN slave in your pocket :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:49 AM
Lucky you !!!


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:50 AM
I have an INDIAN slave in my pocket, yes, yes I do. Does that make me a SLAVE OWNER? I don't OWN the slave. I have a slave, but I am not the slave.


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 5:50 AM
Indian? you have a person in India?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:50 AM
A slave's MASTER.....and it's NOT YOUR FAULT


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:52 AM
The owner just put it in your pocket, and they managed to can't take it back without YOUR AUTHORIZATION...isinit wonderful ? :D


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 5:52 AM
Indian and Northern Affairs Canada CERTIFICATE OF INDIAN STATUS- CERTIFICAT DE STATUT D'INDIEN Family Name HOLLOWAY Given Name Norah Jennifer Registry No 15545458431321 is an Indian within the meaning of the Indian Act, chapter 27, Statutes of Canada (1985).


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 5:53 AM
OK, I gotta go to sleep, will let sink in all the WISDOM I just wrote.......good night freeedummmbers :D


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David Johansen

Dec 03, 2013 11:55 AM
no, the DL is a permit, not a title.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 12:01 PM
No kidding !!!! :-D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 12:13 PM
Its a title! The permit is the legal title that is issued!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 12:24 PM
Title In Property Law, a comprehensive term referring to the legal basis of the ownership of property, encompassing real and Personal Property and intangible and tangible interests therein; also a document serving as evidence of ownership of property, such as the certificate of title to a motor vehicle.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 12:35 PM
<<THERE ARE NO HOMONYMS IN LAW THERE ARE NO SYNONYMS IN LAW>> The Admiral


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 12:37 PM
License = License Permit = Permit Asshole = Asshole :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 12:38 PM
permit 1) v. to allow by silence, agreement or giving a license. 2) n. a license or other document given by an authorized public official or agency (building inspector, department of motor vehicles) to allow a person or business to perform certain acts. These can include building a structure, using a building, driving on the highway, conducting a retail business, and dozens of other activities. The purpose of permits is supposedly to guarantee that laws and regulations have been obeyed, but they also are a source of public revenue. (See: license)


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 12:39 PM
In French we say: Permis de Conduire = Driver's License


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 12:40 PM
License The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act, a Trespass or a tort. The certificate or the document itself that confers permission to engage in otherwise proscribed conduct. A license is different from a permit. The terms license and permit are often used interchangeably, but generally, a permit describes a more temporary form of permission. For example, if a homeowner seeks to make structural additions to her property, she may have to apply for permits from local land-use and Zoning boards. These permits expire on a certain date or when the work is finished. By contrast, the contractor who completes the work will likely hold a local license that allows her to operate her business for a certain number of years. Licenses are an important and ubiquitous feature of contemporary society. Federal, state, and local governments rely on licensing to control a broad range of human activity, from commercial and professional to dangerous and environmental. Licenses may also be issued by private parties and by patent or Copyright holders.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 12:41 PM
<<Licenses may also be issued by private parties and by patent or Copyright holders.>> Do you see what I see here?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 12:41 PM
local governments rely on licensing to control a broad range of human activity, :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 12:42 PM
It means, Aquilae has the ability to create LICENSE :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 12:42 PM
Or RogueSupport ?? :/


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 12:44 PM
It sure sound like what ever lisceneces any private party issues must be "matters of PRIVATE TRUST" to me! :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 12:46 PM
Worth digging a bit Copyright holders = Liened PERSON ?


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 12:50 PM
When we LIEN the NAME, are not we deemed "copyright holder" of the NAME? We are first in line. We don't become copyright OWNERS, we just HOLD the copyrights for the NAME, therefore COPYRIGHT HOLDERS. I might be wrong. So don't take my word for it. I'm just having better luck pulling stuff out of my ass, from now and then.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 1:03 PM
Chris Evan, maybe you know something we don't know, Or I have forgotten about. That happens to me, every once in a while. I and I HATE not knowing the facts. So please explain: when we get a drivers licence, why are title/tiles being created? And if there is a legal title, I guess an equitable title is also created? So, what am I missing? Thanks, Chris!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 1:58 PM
Scott called it "copyhold"


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Dec 03, 2013 2:00 PM
Anytime you ask for permission, a Trust is granted. A trust involves splitting a Title into 2 portions...equitable and legal. I think in the case of the Drivers License, the actual license is the Legal Title. Since they are "technically" still the copyhold of the NAME, they would have the Equitable rights.


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:00 PM
But once we lien the NAME, we become the copyhold and the Legal Titel becomes trust property


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Dec 03, 2013 2:07 PM
To further this....I asked my bank why I couldn't have my negotiable instruments (cancelled checks) back at the end of the month since I bought them and they are my property....the lady pointed me to a clause in the Depositor agreement that said "....to replace checks with 'substitute checks'....this is a LEGAL copy of your check". What they have done with MY property is retained EQUITABLE rights to the instrument while giving me back LEGAL rights. This is one of the reasons why the so called "National Debt" has skyrocketed since 1997....Once this property that they are holding becomes abandoned (I think 3.5 years), they are re-securitizing it to get more Money on Account for themselves. This is the reason why Scott said to lien EVERY Account that belongs to you.


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:07 PM
EVERYTHING is a TRUST!!!! EVERYTHING!


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Dec 03, 2013 2:08 PM
I think this is also why he said lien court docket numbers too....as those are a constructive trust using the NAME. Same as a bank account.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 2:11 PM
Thanks Chris, now I have some more home work. But in trust, in makes sense.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 2:14 PM
I hadn't read where Scot t had mentioned to LIEN all accounts with the LEGAL NAME. But I had concluded that it was a necessary thing to do, if the name became natter of private trust.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 2:16 PM
DL = 2 signatures, and a trustee. Dang , I had missed that! We hold legal title, therefore, surety when we sign. *slap!*


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:16 PM
It was a long time ago....like June/July if my memory is correct! Liening is a public claim that you are the Equitable holder in a TRUST. It seems that EVERYTHING is either an express or constructive trust!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:17 PM
Remember the doorman at Dean's seminar???? He said he signed the license in his pocket "non-assumpsit"


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:18 PM
This is ALL about having the superior claim, the LIEN to the NAME!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:19 PM
I think this is all correct, but, Ceit, if this is a stain shit, it would be a mistake....please forgive me!!! :-D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 2:19 PM
Hahaha!


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Dec 03, 2013 2:21 PM
Actually, this is wrong "This is the reason why Scott said to lien EVERY Account that belongs to you." That should read "This is the reason why Scott said to lien EVERY Account that you give VALUE to......your signature."


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 2:24 PM
Yes, is about taking the VALUE for US. And since government is a TRUST, not a party/person, has no standing, and WE, being the ONLY PARTY WITH STANDING, and hold the SECURITY INTEREST on the NAME, can tell them... FUCK OFF!


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 2:24 PM
I signed my registration "beneficiary"


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Dec 03, 2013 2:26 PM
Government is a TRUST....what do trusts do??? Hold property for the Beneficiary. Who is the Beneficiary? The one with EQUITABLE rights. Who has EQUITABLE rights? The one with a VALID LIEN! :-D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:26 PM
I think it is time to file this lien. :-D :-D :-D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 2:27 PM
Why? Because, FUCK OFF, that's why!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:31 PM
It's NOT a fucking EQUITABLE right, it's a CLAIM, :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:35 PM
You are missing the point!!!!!!!! Equitable Right is Noticed by a Lien!!! A trust has 2 titles, Equitable and Legal That is ALL I am saying. I am not saying there is EQUITY, only RIGHTS to Equity.....thats it!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:36 PM
Ok, don't panic :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:37 PM
Well you keep saying I am wrong with this Equitable Title thing and I am not!!! There is NO EQUITY, but there are RIGHTS....allegedly!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:37 PM
But there is NO EQUITY :(


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Dec 03, 2013 2:38 PM
If you are the shareholder in a corporation that is siphoning money OUT, what rights do you have? Only the rights to remove what is left, yes? Same thing....


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:39 PM
Well....I guess even that would depend on the by-laws and Articles of Organization..... :-)


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:39 PM
Before you can touch any EQUITY, all debts needs to be cleared


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 2:41 PM
Thank "god" I always check things for myself, after I became an animal again. You two are confusing the hell out of me. :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:42 PM
The minute that fucking PERSON was created, it was ALREADY in bedt......think about it !!!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:42 PM
And it will ALWAYS be... :D


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Dec 03, 2013 2:43 PM
Why? Trust is a splitting of a title into Equitable and Legal Titles. Legal has ALL the liabilities, Equitable gets all the Equity. The goal is to have all Equitable Claims. :-D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:43 PM
In debt to WHOM?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:43 PM
If you want to collect EQUITY out of it, DEBTS need to be cleared FIRST :P


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Dec 03, 2013 2:43 PM
TO THE FUCKING PRIVATE BANK :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:44 PM
Where did they get it?


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Dec 03, 2013 2:44 PM
Air :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:44 PM
NO!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:44 PM
And they let you be Admin??? pffft


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:45 PM
:-D :-D :-D


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Dec 03, 2013 2:46 PM
From you....Your signature allows them to leverage your value. And if I am not mistaken, in Canada, your value is held by Her Majesty. In the States, I think it is held in the Treasury....


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:46 PM
Banks are ONLY Money Exchangers - Scott Duncan. They are exchanging YOUR money on Account to Money of Exchange! :-D :-D :-D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:47 PM
Lou Manotti, are there any stain shits here?


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Dec 03, 2013 2:51 PM
Chris Evan, I am saying that WHEN the person is created, it's ALREADY in debt.....so therefore, there can't be any EQUITY regarding the person.... You asked....in debt to WHO, I said....PRIVATE BANKS I haven't SIGNED fuckall on that part.......GOVERNMENT did signed as SURETY for that person.... So GOVERNMENT CREATED that fucking debt, which they call; PUBLIC DEBT I am not talking about me, when I show up to a bank with my pen.... You are MIXING stuff :P


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Dec 03, 2013 2:54 PM
Maybe a little, but I have good reasons to believe that they are ALL in DEBT to ME!!!! :-D


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Dec 03, 2013 2:54 PM
LOL... :D (idiot) :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 2:55 PM
A trust is created when Person A gives Property to Person B to benefit Person C. I have good reasons to believe that I am Person C. :-P


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Dec 03, 2013 2:56 PM
(Over the intercom) "Personnel from the 'Shit Stain Cleaning Department', please check aisles 5 and 7 for possible spillages." Hahaha!


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Dec 03, 2013 2:58 PM
I called em too....I don't think there are any stain shits, but it is always safe to be corrected in here. :-D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 2:58 PM
Ok, Chris Evan, which property in being held in trust when you created a DL? This is not a tricky question, I just want to know your reasoning.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 2:59 PM
*sigh* :(


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Dec 03, 2013 3:00 PM
AND.....if IN FACT I am the Beneficiary, well, then, I will have to tell them by liening the "transmitting utility". Then they will know who I am!


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Andrew D'Aragon

Dec 03, 2013 3:05 PM
http://my.courthousedirect.com/blog/bid/336876/What-s-the-Difference-Between-Legal-Title-and-Equitable-Title


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Dec 03, 2013 3:06 PM
The right to be recognized as a Person. Its got a picture and a signature. You give up your right to travel and in return, you get a Legal Title with YOUR picture on it and Privilege. They are holding your Equitable Rights and you are exercizing your Legal rights through the constructive Trust.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 3:08 PM
Ok, Chris, you say " A trust is created when Person A (ME) gives Property to Person B (DMV/GOVERNMENT) to benefit Person C (GOVERNMENT). I have good reasons to believe that I am Person C (GOVERNMENT). " Is this what you meant?


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Dec 03, 2013 3:10 PM
Yes...but not in the Drivers License example. More like this: Person A - (ME) Person B - (Government) Person C - (Copyhold of the NAME)


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:11 PM
*sigh* :'(


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:12 PM
Person A - (ME) Oh....you ARE a person still ??? :/


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 3:13 PM
If there is a PROPERTY involved here, would it not be OUR VESSEL? I'm just trying to "identify" what is the PROPERTY being HELD in TRUST..


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:13 PM
No...you know what I meant!


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Dec 03, 2013 3:13 PM
I have no fucking idea what you "mean"


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:14 PM
Property = rights. Property can be intangible.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:15 PM
Property = Legal, legal = PERSON And you are NOT a person :P


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 3:17 PM
Oh, THANK YOU! That is what we are talking about. Our rights can be sold via contracts. Exchanging rights, for privileges.


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:18 PM
Thats my understanding :-)


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 3:18 PM
<<The right to be recognized as a Person. Its got a picture and a signature. You give up your right to travel and in return, you get a Legal Title with YOUR picture on it and Privilege. They are holding your Equitable Rights and you are exercizing your Legal rights through the constructive Trust.>>


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 3:20 PM
Chris Evan looks at us as says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsOfnW_sxNA


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:22 PM
You guys looks like Martin Luther King, in this thread :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:24 PM
Why?


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:26 PM
Why?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:28 PM
You are trying to find a warm spot for HUMANS in this legal world :D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 3:37 PM
New Guru in Town, please explain: What did I say that would make you believe I am trying to find a warm spot for humans in this legal world, for asking questions about what Chris was trying to say? I ask because, just like Aerosmith, I don't wanna to miss a thing.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 3:40 PM
You are a bright man, Pete, that is why I ask the question. Maybe I'm missing something. :(


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:43 PM
More Chris Evan, sorry ....I said you guys, but I should have said CHRIS :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:44 PM
Really? I don't see it. Please show me.... :-D :-D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:44 PM
I mean it's NOT a bad thing....it's fair, but you will get shot one day Chris if you try too hard :D


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Dec 03, 2013 3:44 PM
HAHAHAHA!!!! :D


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Dec 03, 2013 3:44 PM
Getting shot sounds like the opposite of my goal!!!! :-D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:45 PM
So it was for Martin, John F, Robert ...etc... :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 3:46 PM
This thread is really missing Stuart Stone and Derek Moran. More COWBELL!!!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 3:55 PM
Oh....and Dean Clifford.... I forgot Dean fuck... :(


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Dec 03, 2013 4:06 PM
This makes me think...have any Canadians got shot for this shit?


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Dec 03, 2013 4:16 PM
Nope.....we are NOT stupid :P


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Dec 03, 2013 5:41 PM
just out to find a cowbell! :D


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Mathew Morrill

Dec 03, 2013 6:37 PM
I have a slight accent, not as thick as yours Chris Evan :-). 312 comments for a quick question. How many comments for a lengthy question?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 7:05 PM
I have a extreme THICK accent :P


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Mathew Morrill

Dec 03, 2013 7:15 PM
Extremely* Pete, but you've come a long way! Your engrish has improved!


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Stuart Stone

Dec 03, 2013 8:12 PM
Mackximus Minimus <<The right to be recognized as a Person. Its got a picture and a signature. You give up your right to travel and in return, you get a Legal Title with YOUR picture on it and Privilege. They are holding your Equitable Rights and you are exercizing your Legal rights through the constructive Trust.>> I like what Mackximus Minimus is saying here...except it's NOT your picture anymore...it's the document's picture (you didn't put it there, someone else did)...it may be a likeness of you, but it's not you...same as the signature is now the document's signature (if it's a plastic laminated licence like in the UK, then it's not possible that you signed it...you may have signed some piece of paper & the signature copied onto the licence, but YOU didn't sign it). Winston Shrout is very clear on this. Waive the right to be recognised as a person...if I have lead the court to believe etc.....please forgive me. 'I am able to function in the capacity of sole authorised administrator for the person/this matter if the court pleases, but if I have led the court to believe that I have assumed surety for this matter or that I, a man, am a name derived from a public document, would be a mistake, so please forgive me.' If it gets too hot in the kitchen, then pay the bloody thing & get out...learn from the experience & come back stronger next time...or if you have a higher risk tolerance, ride it out & see where it leads. ALWAYS ask questions, answer a question with a question. Continually halt proceedings until your questions are answered, otherwise it is not possible for you to be able to understand the nature and cause of the proceedings...make it clear that you are honourable & peaceful & here to help the court out because some sort of mistake has obviously been made... This is just theory from my end...I've not stood in your position Chris Evan


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August le Blanc

Dec 03, 2013 9:15 PM
*golf clap*


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Dec 03, 2013 9:22 PM
Another of these golf claps , and you're out the door :D


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August le Blanc

Dec 03, 2013 9:23 PM
*opera clap*


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 9:25 PM
At least, make it REAL for fuck sakes :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAEA1KzDynI


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August le Blanc

Dec 03, 2013 9:27 PM
I can't help it ;this makes me laugh so hard... Your an administrator... you get to enforce things... I think of this, I can't help it... all due respect of course :-D It's not my fault. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnlIWpZSPXU


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 03, 2013 9:32 PM
Every encounter with corporations is a new contract offer. Cops, courts, McDonald's etc... Once you make it very clear that no commerce is expected or implied the burden is on them to prove a debts origin regarding any charges... Every question they ask is designed to engage you commercially... "He who creates owns"... I didn't create the driving license, therefore I don't own one...No contract, no surety, no money... That's my understanding... Equitable and legal title discussion I find confusing... :(


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August le Blanc

Dec 03, 2013 9:32 PM
the end is the best...


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August le Blanc

Dec 03, 2013 9:35 PM
Equity rules cause it is title to the collateral (value) that gives the title its value... house, car, person. etc. Legal title is the right of use with surety.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 9:49 PM
Legal title is ownership/surety. Beneficial interest is right of use. Split title = TRUST


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 03, 2013 9:49 PM
I can't believe you guys are still going on here :P


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 03, 2013 9:51 PM
As I have just joined the conversation Beverly, your offer of surety is recognised and refused... :p


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August le Blanc

Dec 03, 2013 9:52 PM
What's you? Who's you? ... One just showed up here :-)


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August le Blanc

Dec 03, 2013 9:52 PM
what he said..


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 9:54 PM
Next time Chris Evan, post your "quick" questions on Mika's page please :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 9:55 PM
The answer to every question isnt smoke a joint and live in a van!


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August le Blanc

Dec 03, 2013 10:03 PM
Who lives in a van? I have a mobile production unit and a place that is separate to lay my head. Assumption rebutted. The Joint thing, fuck you. It was a direct response to surety that Beverly implied by this thread... which has some good stuff... wait a minute... Are you typing to me?


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August le Blanc

Dec 03, 2013 10:06 PM
and at least its not down by the river anymore. :-D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 10:08 PM
What's wrong with administrating, WHILE smoking a fatty? In fact, weed smoking IS part of the COVENANT of my TRUST. As trustee, if you are ever offered weed in my jurisdiction, and should you refuse to at least one puff, we'll chop you into pieces, and feed you into a piranha tank. We take breach of TRUST quite seriously around here. :D


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August le Blanc

Dec 03, 2013 10:11 PM
*flings poo*


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 10:24 PM
I can imagine myself in a camper, 4 kids, wife, a dog a cat and some stupid fish, running around the country, looking for some stuff to do, to feed everyone..... And yelling...... FFFFRRREEEEEDDDDUUMMMBBBB !!!! :D


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Norah Holloway

Dec 03, 2013 10:29 PM
FREEEEEEEDUMMMMMMB!!!


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Chris Evan

Dec 03, 2013 10:33 PM
Of course not Jay!! Dont accept surety so easily. I was talking about Mika. :-)


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 10:36 PM
:D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 10:50 PM
Look, Sir Mika is alone.....he is alone, no wife, no kids...fuck!!!...I just don't get it....I know guys that have never heard about all this stuff, and they are WAY MORE FREE that Sir Mika.....trust me :D What's the deal exactly with this freeman shit ??....no one knows !!!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 10:51 PM
What do they want exactly...???


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 11:19 PM
I looked at the definitions for "freeman" in some of the most "trusted" dictionaries. From what I can tell, "freeman" is a TITLE, and it could only be GRANTED. You cannot call yourself "freeman" on your own, SOMEONE has to grant that TITLE. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I am reading. <<What is FREEMAN? This word has had various meanings at different stages of history. In the Roman law, it denoted one who was either born free or emancipated, and was the opposite of �slave.� In feudal law, it designated an allodial proprietor, as distinguished from a vassal or feudal tenant. (And so in Pennsylvania colonial law. Fry�s Election Case,71 Pa. 308, 10 Am. Rep. 098.) In old English law, the word described a freeholder or tenant by free services; one who was not a villein. In modern legal phraseology, it is the appellation of a member of a city or borough having the right of suffrage, or a member of any municipal corporation invested with full civic rights.A person in the possession and enjoyment of all the civil and political rights accorded to the people under a free government. Law Dictionary: http://thelawdictionary.org/freeman/#ixzz2mSJTM9Dd>> <<Black's Law Dictionary (9th edition) defines Freeman as 1. A person who possesses and enjoys all the civil and political rights belonging to the people under a free government. 2. A person who is not a slave. 3. Hist. A member of a municipal corporation (a city or a borough) who possesses full civic rights, esp. the right to vote. 4. Hist. A freeholder. Cf. VILLEIN. 5. Hist. An allodial landowner. Cf. VASSAL. - also written free man.[2]>> <<free�man (frmn) n. 1. A person not in slavery or serfdom. 2. One who possesses the rights or privileges of a citizen.>> <<free�man noun \?fr?-m?n, -?man\ : a free man : a man who is not a slave Full Definition of FREEMAN 1 : one enjoying civil or political liberty 2 : one having the full rights of a citizen See freeman defined for English-language learners � See freeman defined for kids � Examples of FREEMAN <after eight years of residency, you will be granted the status of freeman> >>


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 11:24 PM
In Pete's Law dictionary, 2nd edition, it will be Free Man,. Definition: A Man with a penis, preferably alive, that cost NOTHING. :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 11:28 PM
So now, Mika can't be a Free Man ?? :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 11:29 PM
Neither do I :(


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 11:30 PM
Correct me if I am wrong here ... :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 11:32 PM
Sovereignty is the power of a state to do everything necessary to govern itself, such as making, executing, and applying laws; imposing and collecting taxes; making war and peace; and forming treaties or engaging in commerce with foreign nations.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 11:42 PM
PTSD ?? :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 11:43 PM
I received orders from the Admiral, that the next dumbass who uses ACRONYMS, to kick him out the boat :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 03, 2013 11:44 PM
:D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 03, 2013 11:48 PM
I say that anyone describing oneself with ANY word from a dictionary, fell for the trap. It's part of the programming that we somehow feel the need, because we have been programmed that way, to "describe" ourselves using WORDS. Then we go to the dictionaries very conveniently handed to us, and look to other AUTHOR/AUTHORITY for THE words that would BEST describe US. And we end-up describing US with THEIR titles/words. Like "Christians" say "I am a MAN!" Well, let's look for the definition of MAN. A BOND SERVANT and/or a VASSAL. What is a VASSAL? They sucked the Nobles' dick. Who wrote the "bible"? The Nobility. I am ME! :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 3:32 AM
So......about this lien. After one files proper Public Notice, how does one lien the NAME? I have heard a couple different ideas. One school of thought seems to be to lien the NAME for say $2 mil per year every year (or break that down into months...but you get the idea). The other is lien it for say $100 mil one time. I am not sure what is best although I see the merits of both. One way, it doesn't raise any suspicion, the other is flat out obvious and should stick out at the Secretary of State. What are your thoughts?


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 3:40 AM
If you can account for it. It is your value, you appraise it, you determine it; by some sort of accounting method, like a simple 40k x 70years=1.5million, this asst goes into the asset column...Make sure you include something like this in your financing statement... Stuart Stone would you be so kind as to review the grammatical correctness? We herby declare on this day November 30.2012: The name Jason Fredrick Le Blanc, is Private property Along with ALL Titles, Patents, Letters Patent, Property and Assets including but not limited to; all accounts/contracts derived from said name on any document. Questions regarding this NOTICE may be addressed to the DULY AUTHORIZED TRUSTEE CORPORATION, [ 1732964 ALBERTA LTD.] By registered mail addressed: To: The Original Trust Attention: Accounting Dept. PMB 206 204-1440-52 ST, NE Calgary, Alberta T2A-4T8 Authorized By: The Board Of Trustees, PRIVATE CORPORATE SEAL 1732964 ALBERTA LTD. All RIGHTS RESERVED


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 3:41 AM
All administrated by the charted accountants of the administrative body of the coproation


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 3:41 AM
So there is no YOU...


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 3:51 AM
I am being a king. First Director, CFA whatever the fuck I want cause its private... and the corporation ACCOUNTS for the SURETY.


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 3:53 AM
Got it Boobies....but that 1.5 mil can be fractionally banked and worth significantly more.


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 3:57 AM
I like boobies :-D Um.. so what does that have to do with your value, its private and unless you do something, it is only valuable to you.. on the books you create under title... We becomes part of the vocabulary as well, kind of like nobility... and if your own currency is the only method to deal with you in commerce, by exchanging the fiat currency into fucktard coin. no debt created.


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 3:58 AM
Not a slag on bit coin , more inline with us the fucktard chimp types. Or for me former fucktard i renounce that title. Now just a tard in tardis... :-D


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 4:11 AM
So you want to fractionalize bank currency? you want to do what they do? do you know something I don't, Did I miss the point? or what. :-)


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 4:15 AM
Once its on the books you can borrow against it... Creating credit by liquidating assets is a way of generating money of exchange, your own currency the corporate Canadian tire money thing, you are a private bank act as a currency exchange which is all banks do, so I don't know what you are getting at Chris Evan.


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 4:35 AM
No....I am saying that you lien isn't enough. It is worth MORE to them because of what they can do with it. I am under the impression that the lien KILLS the Value they had in the instrument, so the lien would have to be enough to kill it. I am thinking $60 mil....


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 4:36 AM
Documentary Draft....I think this is important, but I don't know much about it........


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 04, 2013 5:49 AM
Still...?


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 6:19 AM
As long as you can account for it.


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Stuart Stone

Dec 04, 2013 3:00 PM
Mackximus Minimus: I looked at the definitions for "freeman" in some of the most "trusted" dictionaries. From what I can tell, "freeman" is a TITLE, and it could only be GRANTED. You cannot call yourself "freeman" on your own, SOMEONE has to grant that TITLE. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I am reading... Correct...In some of the UK statutes I read through regarding council tax/liabilities of the inhabitants becoming the liabilities of the council, there are references to Freemen. The title is obtained (paraphrasing here), by declaring yourself a freeman & then registering same with the local mayor (kinda defeats the purpose)...the title can then be passed down through the family. The change in status has been repealed from the legislation & I couldn't be arsed to go digging for it.


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Stuart Stone

Dec 04, 2013 3:12 PM
The value of the lien on the person needs to be tangible & accountable (which is what your accountant is for), to validate the claim of value in the ledger...and to keep it objective and at arm's length from the corporation's valuation. Scott mentioned something along the lines of earning potential x 65 or 70 years. Plus whatever value is already in the name...this is why I have established (and am still establishing a few liens against other parties), to raise the book value of the person, prior to liening the name into the private trust. Derek Moran explains how the money supply increases due to fractional reserve lending, blowing out the money of account versus cash reserves...you may wish to use a similar extrapolation for the value of the person when creating the lien. If the accountant can validate it & add it to book value, then it is doable...just depends on the creativity of the accountant...that's what the accountant is for: to keep the valuation at arm's length from you ie: a third party confirming the value. I'm a bit more conservative: Earning potential x 75 years plus other asset value plus value of liens = current dollar value of person to be liened. Reserve the right to determine current value in gold, silver, oil, bitcoins, average value of land/real estate, factor in inflation & periodically revalue against these tangibles (useful if the currency gets hyperinflated through printing, so your lien value can blowout/be recalculated in accordance of the devaluation of the currency). The public notice only needs to notify the property that has been liened (property description) & into a private trust (XYZ Private Trust) held by ABC Corporation. Boobie's description is more than adequate...intent is key...and the book value can be borrowed against for corporate activities :D


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 3:28 PM
We are in a system that runs on title, given to us and we are berthed. So we turn and take them. By proper administrative process. Through a trusted third party. Just like the accountants do everywhere in this construct.


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 3:30 PM
70 years = working life plus retirement.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 04, 2013 3:39 PM
I need an accountant, PRONTO! I need a DIRTY accountant... muahahaha! The Admiral said:<<Discovery of computer science is inevitable, and accountants will find it first. I'm not going to find any gold in the Klondike if I don't go to the Klondike. You're not going to find computer science if you don't go to where math is used constantly... ... Bookkeeping's a boring job, isn't it? Those who have been saddled with such a task will know what I'm describing when I speak of numbers dancing in your head, and you, being a pattern-seeking mammal, indulge yourself in the boredom by seeing how you make these numbers dance in a pattern you have not yet seen. This is actually a very profound process and a lot of people miss it. The last thing the Romans wanted were smart bookkeepers. Bookkeepers make the rules. None of you see that. Watch �The Agenda� with Steve Paikin. VALE and the Chartered Accountants of Ontario sponsor the show, and they'll proudly tell you how long they've been setting PUBLIC POLICY. None of you are aware of this, because none of you think; and Steve Paikin's shows are for people who can think, so there's zero risk of discovery. You can see for yourself, your masters laughing at your idiocy... ... 3: Get ANY accountant to manage the books of the corporation. You direct the corporation as FIRST DIRECTOR, and establish roles (President/CEO Vice President, etc) which is how the UNITED STATES was formed... The accountant EXECUTES YOUR TASKS within the framework. To establish a trust, write it down, and have it witnessed and notarized. The end. Only shareholders of your corporation are recognized by the trust... ... ACCOUNTANTS only have jurisdiction over MONEY OF ACCOUNT. MONEY OF EXCHANGE is YOUR JURISDICTION.>> Scott Duncan


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 3:45 PM
The power of the accountant. Is to create.


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Stuart Stone

Dec 04, 2013 4:00 PM
ACCOUNTANTS only have jurisdiction over MONEY OF ACCOUNT. MONEY OF EXCHANGE is YOUR JURISDICTION Amen to that! :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:42 PM
I got fired by my CPA a month ago when I ran this by him. Maybe if one of us finds a good one, we can refer him amongst the group! :-D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:43 PM
when I ran this by him: Ran what ?? :/


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August le Blanc

Dec 04, 2013 11:44 PM
A director under charter; is accounting properly.


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:44 PM
Right on...sorry for being vague. When I told him about the Trust and accounting for it and the Trustee corporation. He said he didn't feel comfortable working with me anymore. :-/


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 04, 2013 11:45 PM
he got an itch?


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:45 PM
I have used this guy for 4 years for the corporation I am in charge of.....


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:45 PM
And WHY have you told him this ? :/


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:45 PM
ummmm....I needed him to do the accounting for it, so I explained it to him.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 04, 2013 11:45 PM
Oh fuck you are all still here?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:46 PM
Who is still here ?? :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:46 PM
You only need to give numbers to these CPA, nothing else... :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:47 PM
mhhhhm


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:48 PM
Why the fuck a CPA needs to know the color of my short for ?? :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:49 PM
Hey CPA, here are the numbers, fix that sharp and clean please.....Thanks That's about the discussion I have with the CPA :/


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:49 PM
Well....I give the people who work for me ALL the information needed to adequately do the job for me that I need them to. I t seems relevant to tell him what the relationship between the entities he is working with


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:49 PM
WHY ?? :/


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:50 PM
Thats how I run my business. I like well informed MULES


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:50 PM
They don't bug me with stupid shit when they have enough information


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:50 PM
MULES are NEVER well informed idiot, that's why they are called MULES... :(


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:51 PM
OMFG..!!!!! :(


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:51 PM
Well..you have the wrong MULES.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:51 PM
Where is Scott ??? :(


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 04, 2013 11:51 PM
Chris Evan, this kind of MULES? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX_tE0M3ZCI


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:52 PM
I have the wrong MULES ????? :/


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:52 PM
This isn't a forum on how to run one's business, we clearly differ in our methods....lets get back to the hiring an accountant. :-D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:55 PM
OK, let me help here Chris, pull out the yellow pages, and go to "A", you'll find ACCOUNTANT at one point.......call them all, and explane to each of them HOW you are running YOUR LIFE.......and good luck !!! :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:56 PM
Accountant: Definition: One that keeps, audits, and inspects the financial records of individuals or business concerns and prepares financial and tax reports.


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:56 PM
Ok Einstein...Stuart stated to have an accountant determine book value. How do you do this without telling him ALL THE NECESSARY SHIT????


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:57 PM
What NECESSARY shit ? :/


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Chris Evan

Dec 04, 2013 11:58 PM
Great question....and since I have NO IDEA how to determine book value, I told him what I thought he would need to know


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:58 PM
Let him AUDIT, INSPECT the financial records, and tell him to PREPARE the financial and tax reports :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 04, 2013 11:59 PM
He might come back with a few questions, just answer them :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:01 AM
If you tell him, Hey, I want to lien the person I have, establish a trust, put that sucker IN TRUST, and appoint the corp as trustee, so the government won't fuck around with the person's surety no more.... He might feels a little tingly, and say.....heu, humm, well, never mind, I will replace you with another monkey :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:02 AM
I never said anything about a lien...only about a Private Trust and a corporate Trustee. THATS IT!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:03 AM
Imagine if you would have followed up with the rest of the shit :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:03 AM
FFFFFFFFRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDUUUUUUUMMMMMMMBBBBBBB!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:04 AM
So.... back to shit that actually matters. How can we determine the book value and/or amount of the lien?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:04 AM
With a calculator :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:05 AM
What gives value to that person ?


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:06 AM
And who ACCOUNTS for this?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:06 AM
who accounts for what ?? :/


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:07 AM
The book value you got from your calculator.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:07 AM
Why would someone ACCOUNTS for this ?? :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:08 AM
There is 8736 hours in a year right ??


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:09 AM
<sigh> Stuart wrote this..is this not valid?? The value of the lien on the person needs to be tangible & accountable (which is what your accountant is for), to validate the claim of value in the ledger...and to keep it objective and at arm's length from the corporation's valuation.


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:09 AM
i think you are undervaluing the "Accountant" aspect of this. :-)


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:10 AM
I dunno, ask Stuart !! :/


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Dec 05, 2013 12:11 AM
The ACCOUNTANT will AUDIT the books, and if the books balances, he will put his signature on it :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:12 AM
Now the corporation has liened a PERSON right ?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:12 AM
What does gives value to that person ?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:14 AM
Helloosss !! :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:17 AM
Hey, accountant, the corporation has a lien on a person, and the lien value is......and you pull out the LEGAL paperwork concerning that lien, and BINGO !!!, the accountant has all the LEGAL stuff he needs to do his JOB. No ?? :/


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:19 AM
Accountant "Can you tell me what this $100,000,000 lien on your balance sheet is please?"


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:21 AM
HAHAHA!!!!....


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:21 AM
"I see you did $363,000 in sales last year and invested $93,500 in BitCoins, held in trust, can you explain this to me?"


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:21 AM
You go year by year idiot :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:22 AM
Scott said that?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:22 AM
NO NO, that one has no questionings to answer...no no no


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:22 AM
If I say it, it's no good ??? :/


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Dec 05, 2013 12:22 AM
:D


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:23 AM
I remember Scott saying something different than that.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:23 AM
Let say you go YEAR BY YEAR....you take 8736 hours and multiply by the amount you think has a logical meaning to you......


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:24 AM
If the NAME is liened for $1 mil, that leaves too much left for the vultures to want


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:24 AM
and the next year, you do the same, and adjust if you see fit...


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:24 AM
NO NO NO!!!! What about the VALUE that I added BEFORE? you are missing the point


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:24 AM
It has to be a year by year thing Chris, think about it ??


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:25 AM
I have signed LOTS of negotiable instruments before this date!!! Those NEED to be ACCOUNTED FOR!!!!


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:25 AM
I have added LOTS of VALUE!!!! Think about it


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:26 AM
I signed 2 mortgages....multiply those by 10 for fractional reserve banking. I have signed $100,000's worth of checks....again, multiply by 10. I have signed $100,000s worth of equipment and truck loans....again, multiply by 10...get it?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:27 AM
Well, if the corp has a lien, on something, for a million dollars, and has ALL the legal document concerning that lien, it will fit PERFECTLY in ANY business books :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:28 AM
But if you want to do CRAZY stuff, it will look CRAZY..... :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:28 AM
HAHAHAHAHA!!!...FFFRREEEDDDDUUMMBB !!!! :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:29 AM
Where is Scott?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:29 AM
And you don't have to remind me, I know you LOVE signing stuff !! :D


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 05, 2013 12:29 AM
400+ members, and not one single fucking accountant? Are we at the mercy of Pete Daoust's Gestapo's calculator skills?


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:30 AM
I have sent "NEW ORIGINAL" "VOID" to some stuff. ;-)


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:30 AM
Thank you Mackximus!!!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:32 AM
Thank you Mackximus !!!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:34 AM
Here is a gift, from me to you Chris Evan :D Value The estimated or appraised worth of any object or property, calculated in money.


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:35 AM
How about using the FINANCIAL DICTIONARY since we are talking about finances: value The worth of all rights arising from ownership of property


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:36 AM
:-D :-D :-D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:36 AM
We are talking LEGAL :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:36 AM
Pete, I think you have this one wrong here....the idea is to lien the NAME so it is DEAD. Tickling it with a small lien isn't gonna do shit!


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:37 AM
8760 hrs/year at ....errr....say $50/ hour. $438,000....who is gonna care about that?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:38 AM
I like more $114.47 / hour, but it's up to you :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:39 AM
Still....$1 mil...big friggin deal!


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:39 AM
The Security is probably worth 50x that


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:39 AM
Oh yes it is :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:39 AM
The Security is probably worth 50x that ??...where have you got that info ???


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:40 AM
And the "Oh yes it is" was for the million a YEAR :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:40 AM
"probably" I really don't know.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:41 AM
So you don't know, and you pulled that number RIGHT from your ass ? :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:41 AM
A Title 7 broker can supposedly look it up


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:41 AM
What if I tell you that the security of PIERRE DAOUST worth MINUS 58,000.00 ??


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:41 AM
Yup! Right from my ass...however, I am pretty sure Scott was in that range when he was mentioning it..Mackximus? Do you remebmer?


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:42 AM
Not this AGAIN!!! So, is the lien worth minus $58,000 too???


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:42 AM
NO IDIOT !!!!.....:D


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:42 AM
Why am I an idiot?


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 05, 2013 12:43 AM
"Accounting-Speculation-Fest" in progress. "Learn" at your own risk. :D You two can confuse a hermaphrodite about which sex he/she actually is. Hahahaha! I am learning here, as well. I don't know shit about accounting. :( I don't recall what you are mentioning, Chris.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:43 AM
WHO THE FUCK GIVES VALUE to that person ???????


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:43 AM
I DO !!! :P


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:43 AM
If we were measuring in fucking coconuts, and the fucking thing was worth 50 coconuts, I would think the lien would be for 50 fucking cocnuts.


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:44 AM
You do what?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:44 AM
Chris Evan, please, WHO GIVES VALUE TO THAT PERSON ?


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:44 AM
ME


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:45 AM
So why you think you are liening the fucking security of it ?? :/


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:45 AM
NO....WE ARE LIENING THE FUCKING VALUE TO MAKE IT WORTHLESS TO THEM!!!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:45 AM
What is your country NATIONAL debt as we speak ?


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:46 AM
The US is about $17 tril


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:46 AM
And HOW many PERSONS there is in your crazy country ?


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:46 AM
Scott would have had this straight by now....this is like a couple monkeys trying to fuck a foot ball


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:47 AM
errrr.....IDK, 300,000,000.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:47 AM
Well, Scott is gone fishing because he is fed up with monkeys.....so


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 05, 2013 12:47 AM
His probably laughing reading this shit.


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 12:47 AM
Do you have a Black's Law 9th, Chris?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:47 AM
OK, so take this crazy number 17t, and divide it by 300 millions


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:48 AM
No, I use the online dictionaries


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:48 AM
$56,666.00


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:49 AM
Pete, MY signature has nothing to do with that. That is what the UNITED STATES owes people. MY signature has created money that the BANKS are using!! The national debt has very little to do with this!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:49 AM
OH,....same as here in Canada ??? :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:49 AM
This is about the banks and the creation of money


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:50 AM
The person you have in your pocket has 56,666 in debt agree ??


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:51 AM
You just don't get it......


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:51 AM
OK, stay with me please Chris Evan


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 12:51 AM
Chris...look up American Depository Receipt ;)


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:51 AM
Is it true that the person you happen to have in your pocket, is 57k in debt ?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:51 AM
IS THAT TRUE ^^^^


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:51 AM
(in the US) a negotiable certificate of title to a number of shares in a non-US company that are deposited in an overseas bank.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 12:52 AM
Fuck....I quit :(


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:53 AM
Its a transmitting utility! My signature for that person has created money for the banks....that is the issue. Yes, it represents $57k in debt for ONE corporation...but others have used it for their gain!


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 12:57 AM
The shares for the PROVINCE OF ONTARIO are traded on the Luxembourg Exchange. Scott never discussed that, but he admitted that to me when i brought it up that in fact that was true. But you never HEAR about what the share-price of the PROVINCE OF ONTARIO is being traded on the Luxembourg exchange, do you? ..how much do you think your share of the PROVINCE OF QUEBEC is, Pete- who KNOWS/HELLOSSSSSSSSSSSS?


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:58 AM
a title 7 broker can look up securities.


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 12:59 AM
Any Title 7 brokers here to show Pete where he is mistaken???


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:00 AM
I have solid proof, that PIERRE DAOUST is in debt for 58k All the rest of what you say, I HAVE NO PROOF of it.....do you ?? So if PIERRE DAOUST gets liened, it will be for $114.47 / hour for the whole year....because as per the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR of PIERRE DAOUST, that is the VALUE I can GIVE to it...... This is HOW I get all this....any takers ?? ...if you are, please provide ACCURATE info with solid fucking PROOFS... :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:02 AM
Sorry Derek Moran, I am NOT in this to THINK the truth, I am in this to KNOW the truth.....and so far, NO ONE BROUGHT me a SOLID proof of ANY shares value concerning PIERRE DAOUST....sorry :(


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:03 AM
And plus, apparently it's ALL FUCKING DEBTS ... remember ?? :P


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 1:03 AM
Yes- you mentioned Kirsten 'I-think-she's-hotter-now-that-I-know-she's-partied-with-Depeche Mode-before' Carlstrom had this done... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snILjFUkk_A


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:03 AM
FFFRREEEEDDDUMMMBBB !!! :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 1:04 AM
She did! And she told me in confidence that it is worth significantly more than Pete is saying!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:05 AM
And my grand mother was doing blow jobs :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:05 AM
Apparently :D


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 1:05 AM
Scott Duncan: "Money" is debit, AND, CREDIT"


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:05 AM
that it is worth significantly more than Pete is saying!: PROOF PLEASE :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:06 AM
Bring me the fucking FACTS :P


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:06 AM
Fucking freedummbers :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:07 AM
Now, try to imagine me, in court, with the Notice of Mistake, in front of these cocksuckers :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:07 AM
Muhahahahaha!!!!


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 1:08 AM
<sigh> Whatever.......


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:09 AM
ANY TAKERS !!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:09 AM
Prove to me that PIERRE DAOUST's worth eleventy billions dollars please :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:10 AM
And you'll see a fucking crazy administrator in ACTION :D HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:10 AM
FFFRREEEDDDUMMMBBB !!!! :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 1:10 AM
Rick, what do you think the average Birth Certificate is worth? Basically, give/take, what is a good lien amount to start with in rendering the Security useless to them?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:11 AM
Rick Carne, how can you PROVE the average BC worth anything ? :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 1:11 AM
Maybe Rick can resurrect this abortion we call a thread!


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 1:11 AM
and set us in the right direction


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Dec 05, 2013 1:11 AM
:-D :-D :-D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:12 AM
Yeah, maybe Rick Carne can prove something :D ....in the mean time ... I have solid proof, that PIERRE DAOUST is in debt for 58k All the rest of what you say, I HAVE NO PROOF of it.....do you ?? So if PIERRE DAOUST gets liened, it will be for $114.47 / hour for the whole year....because as per the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR of PIERRE DAOUST, that is the VALUE I can GIVE to it...... This is HOW I get all this....any takers ?? ...if you are, please provide ACCURATE info with solid fucking PROOFS...


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 1:12 AM
Pete, it isn't worth ANYTHING to me eve after it is liened....it is about what THEY perceive it is worth and making it useless!!!! They perceive it is worth A LOT!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:13 AM
Who are THEY ??


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 1:13 AM
They = the trading market...banks...etc


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:13 AM
and what the fuck do I care about these strangers PERCEPTIONS ?


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 1:14 AM
You are missing the point here....


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:14 AM
What do you want exactly Chris Evan, go by what THEY think, or what YOU know is true ??? :/


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 1:15 AM
I get what you are saying...but you are not seeing the whole picture.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:15 AM
I am NOT missing the point Chris, no I am not.....I see EXACTLY where you are.....and I am just NOT there


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 1:16 AM
ok....lets agree to disagree for now. Maybe someone will show us where to find the answer. I am out for now.....


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:16 AM
I am in for the TRUTH.....since the beginning....I am fed up with THEIR lies......I will NOT embarque in it......


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 1:16 AM
Does Blake know about this stuff?


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Dec 05, 2013 1:16 AM
ME TOO!!!! 100%


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:17 AM
I have the answer ! :/


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Dec 05, 2013 1:17 AM
You want me to post it again ??


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Dec 05, 2013 1:17 AM
NO!


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Dec 05, 2013 1:17 AM
Fuck off, I'll do it anyway :P I have solid proof, that PIERRE DAOUST is in debt for 58k All the rest of what you say, I HAVE NO PROOF of it.....do you ?? So if PIERRE DAOUST gets liened, it will be for $114.47 / hour for the whole year....because as per the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR of PIERRE DAOUST, that is the VALUE I can GIVE to it...... This is HOW I get all this....any takers ?? ...if you are, please provide ACCURATE info with solid fucking PROOFS..


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 1:18 AM
But apparently, my grand mother was doing blow jobs... :D


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 1:19 AM
Here's some comments Dean has made to me in the past: Dean Clifford: The BC was valuable consideration for something of value you deposited, period. They are bankrupt, and your deposit technically has no dollar value because it is entirely dependent upon how many worthless notes are in circulation. So, they had to give you something, a note, that did not have a face value. A token, redeemable for......something.......sooooo close Derek, keep going. You're dancing on it, but looking up. hahahaha Dean Clifford: "Scott has conceded to me that CANADA the corporation's shares trade on the Luxembourg market- SO, i think what you're trying to tell me Dean, is that my BC is REDEEMABLE for the DIVIDEND-PAYMENTS for the SHARE they gave me thats safely sitting in the Bank of Canada"........and.........not just that.........


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:35 AM
Dean Clifford: The BC was valuable consideration for something of value you deposited, period. What the fuck did I deposited ??? what is it, I don't fucking REMEMBER that part... ??


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 3:36 AM
CREDIT


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:36 AM
I just can't remember.....what CREDIT ?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:39 AM
WHAT CREDIT Chris Evan ??? :/


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 3:39 AM
They created a debt out of the surety, borrowed against the collateral ( the vessel with the bond attached for insurance) from the banks, someone is accountable for the value of that debt. One equitable share of the consolidated revenue fund.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 3:39 AM
when someone was born.


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 3:40 AM
^^^ yup.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:41 AM
OK, but lets talk about ME, not someone......I have no souvenirs having deposited CREDIT in anyones shit....do you ???


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Dec 05, 2013 3:42 AM
Ok...lets talk about you. what the hell are you talking about?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:42 AM
:D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:42 AM
.I have no souvenirs having deposited CREDIT in anyones shit....do you ???


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 3:43 AM
So, what is this thing then? What does this CERTIFICATE certify? Why is it a Security? Who is extending the credit?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:44 AM
WOW!!!....now you are talking :D


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Dec 05, 2013 3:44 AM
You are talking in fucking circles lately....just fucking write what you are thinking!!!!!


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 3:45 AM
Yes the title ( registration, bill of sale and the birth certificate, the bond, I equate it with owning a vehicle, that is what a vessel is, vessels need to be insured, that is the birth certificate ,for the vessel we walk around in. I have a hunch if I take both to the bank of canada with a copy of the lien, interesting thing will happen. Or this could be straight ass language...


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 3:46 AM
We will find out soon.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 3:46 AM
There is a branch downtown.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:46 AM
There is no circles at all in this Chris :( .I have no souvenirs having deposited CREDIT in anyones shit....do you ???


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 3:47 AM
you carry it in your back pocket


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:47 AM
And it's certainly not my fault !! :D


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Chris Evan

Dec 05, 2013 3:48 AM
I do not comprehend what you are stating, why you are stating it, or what the purpose of it is! We know its not your fault, we know its not you, we know you had no idea of this shit going on....but some shit happened.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 3:48 AM
You need to go buy a sense of humour :-D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:49 AM
Me ?? :/


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Dec 05, 2013 3:49 AM
Maybe I am just tired. :-( Yeah....i am in a pissy mood I guess. See y'all later


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 3:49 AM
no not you, that other


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:51 AM
I am just saying Chris Evan, if Dean Clifford would have thrown me something like this.....I would have bombarded him with questions.......really, no ??


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:52 AM
They are bankrupt, and your deposit technically has no dollar value because it is entirely dependent upon how many worthless notes are in circulation. WHAT DEPOSIT FUCK !!! :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:52 AM
So, they had to give you something, a note, that did not have a face value. A token, redeemable for......something.... WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS "SOMETHING" :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:53 AM
And you accuse "ME", talking in circle ??......what's that if it's not HUGE fucking circles ? :D


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 3:56 AM
"What the fuck did I deposited ??? what is it, I don't fucking REMEMBER that part... ??" Pete- theres a reason why when i ask the Registrar General's office- "Where can i find the ORIGINAL COPY of my LONG FORM STATEMENT OF LIVE BIRTH RECORD"...they either dont get back to me, OR, give me an answer to a question i never asked! ;)


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:57 AM
And what is the reason Derek Moran :)


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 3:57 AM
Guys, title... the registration of live birth is a title, we have the legal rights to it; till we do not, The Equity is in the bond, which is our value, they did some sort of calculation to establish net worth at birth. It also entitles us to one equitable share in the consolidated revenue fund, if we can figure it out, which is simple, take the documents to the bank and demand full disclosure, by the act of a king (lien). Scott always said if was hard you are doing irt wrong. It is not that hard if one uses the analogy of selling a car with a bill of sale created yourself. In exchange for compensation.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 3:58 AM
I have a certified copy of said document in my files for the property that belong to the trust, which I can liquidate.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 3:59 AM
And what is the reason Derek Moran :)


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:02 AM
correction, I have nothing to do with it is none of my business, but as a director of the board of the corp I have the authority to investigate fully and do due diligence on all accounts created. Any one who works at the Bank of Canada will do. Notice to agent is notice to principle, We are the principle of the Corp that administers to the affairs of the property held in TRUST, as such it is ones duty to go to the Bank and settle this matter once and for all.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:03 AM
Derek Moran, WHAT IS THE REASON ? ....please ? :)


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:05 AM
They do not want to answer that question. Simple.


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Dec 05, 2013 4:07 AM
ORIGINAL COPY of my LONG FORM STATEMENT OF LIVE BIRTH RECORD = is MY TITLE > being STORED by the REGISTRAR GENERAL up in Thunder Bay


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:08 AM
OK Derek, so they don't want to talk about it with you, and it gives you good reasons to belive......what ?....say it please Derek


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 4:09 AM
From what ive heard Pete- they will NEVER show you the ORIGINAL LBR, because the BACK of it will be all STAMPED-UP with the number of times they've 'SECURITIZED' it...


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:09 AM
Oh, and plus, Thunder Bay.....what a fucking Boring place to store "something" :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:10 AM
Thanks Derek Moran :)


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:10 AM
I just dropped a information bomb here and you are asking for a reason why they won't answer the questions, look at the posts... it is a simple thing. to the best of my knowledge> Lien all titles, all letters patent, all assets, all accounts... collect on lien. That is the only way to get the original copies.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:11 AM
They are legally obligated to.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:12 AM
So you will do it Bobis Youruncle ???


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:12 AM
You have to ACT as king.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:12 AM
Yep


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:12 AM
Soon very soon


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:12 AM
And post the results ?


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:12 AM
But of course. :-D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:13 AM
OK, shall I stay awake and wait ?....or go to sleep :/


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:14 AM
it will be a little while yet, so go to bed frog one.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:15 AM
OK, I will continue discharging debts, at this point, after 8 shots, I have a 100% success.....I intent to become a pro at it, in the meantime, do that stuff.......I will share, and you will share....OK ?? :)


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 4:16 AM
Simpler than that, Bobis. "CALL" for the PROPERTY, in a DEMAND LETTER, to your BARE TRUSTEE (Registrar General) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS1NGlJHnz4


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:17 AM
We gotta do it for Chris Boobies, this guy is lost in the bushes.....he needs our help :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:18 AM
Ho, you know what ??, maybe when I discharge these debts, I take back bit by bit this mysterious stuff I supposely deposited when I was a baby ?? :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:19 AM
could it be ??? :/


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Dec 05, 2013 4:19 AM
INDEMNIFY: Black's Law 1st To save harmless; to SECURE against loss or damage; to give SECURITY for the reimbursement of a PERSON in case of an anticipated loss falling upon him. Also to make good; to compensate; to make reimbursement to one of a loss already incurred by him. "...SECURITY...of a PERSON..." http://blacks.worldfreemansociety.org/1/I/i-0614.jpg


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:20 AM
Thats the plan, I have been concentrating on this stuff in particular. The praecipe was the first thing I investigated upon arrival, it has taken me this long to get thru the bullshit of myself and figure it out. So yes I need to know the process. However my person will be dead to them, held in trust... :-D Yes Pete I will share the knowledge freely as Scott did. Yes. Pete Daoust it could be exactly what you are doing.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 4:20 AM
Maybe this is the "something" Dean Clifford was talking about ??


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:20 AM
*golf clap* Derek Moran


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Dec 05, 2013 4:25 AM
Public servant refusing to deliver PROPERTY 337. Every one who, being or having been employed in the service of Her Majesty in right of Canada or a province, or in the service of a municipality, and entrusted by virtue of that employment with the receipt, custody, management or control of anything, refuses or fails to deliver it to a person who is authorized to demand it and does demand it is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years. http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-164.html#docCont


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:25 AM
This is what gives it power; The Hammer: Public Notice: It is not our wish to create controversy, Having given previous Public Notice: To eliminate the need, We have decided the following is the most prudent course, We herby declare on this day November 30.2012: The name Jason Fredrick Le Blanc, is Private property Along with ALL Titles, Patents, Letters Patent, Property and Assets including but not limited to; all accounts/contracts derived from said name on any document. Questions regarding this NOTICE may be addressed to the DULY AUTHORIZED TRUSTEE CORPORATION, [ 1732964 ALBERTA LTD.] By registered mail addressed: To: Original Trust Attention: Accounting Dept. PMB 206 204-1440-52 ST, NE Calgary, Alberta T2A-4T8 Authorized By: The Board Of Trustees, PRIVATE CORPORATE SEAL 1732964 ALBERTA LTD. All RIGHTS RESERVED


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 4:26 AM
�property� includes real and personal property, a debt, a thing in action, and any other right or interest; http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90c34_e.htm#BK0


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:28 AM
And be able to vive Voce the fuck out it with authority if questioned. It is a private matter. My neighbour experienced the power of my voice for the first time. Shut him right up. Muahahahahahaha :-D


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:29 AM
I wanted to be thorough


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:35 AM
We are countering all of the laws (spells) they have ensnared us to. We are creating our own laws in private. Utilizing our own currency, we do not answer to anyone except the sole beneficiary, our whole purpose is for the benefit of One.


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 4:37 AM
"...but, INSTRUMENTS that are INTENDED to PASS an ESTATE-in-LAND, such as DEEDS...MUST be not ONLY IN WRITING, but UNDER SEAL." - from ChiefRock's page i posted


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:40 AM
Corporate seal embossed http://www.orderstamps.ca/ProductDetail.aspx?productid=S901C%20CORPORATE%20DESK%20SEAL


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:47 AM
Just like mine...


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:47 AM
correction, the administrators tool.


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 4:50 AM
The Registrar General has done his part. He gave the Birth Certificate to our mommy and daddy soon after we were born to INDEMNIFY us, in exchange for the SOLBR. Now he is just sitting around with nothing to do now that he has done HIS OBLIGATION. As of now, he is just a BARE/NAKED/SIMPLE TRUSTEE.


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 4:52 AM
..i cant help but think Scott kept on CALLing-out "HELLOSSSSS!" for a reason ;)


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:53 AM
Yes, my programming interfered, over here...


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:56 AM
He said to me, he gave the answers away at the beginning. The first thread I was part of he posted this: http://robcourtofrecord.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/video-praecipe-act-of-the-king/


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:57 AM
I think it is relevant :-D


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 4:59 AM
One of the last things we talked about was for me to figure out how one would benefit. By jove I think we got it. :-D


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:10 AM
Gail Marie


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David Johansen

Dec 05, 2013 5:15 AM
Chris Evan you have a right to be in a pissy mood. what they are trying to do to you is not right, they know it, and it was designed to create confrontation. getting out of it unscathed will be tricky, but thats why i intend to be there with you. Make sure you remind me of the date beforehand.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:16 AM
The trauma of the experience is what they count on to throw you. Know this and the fear leaves and strength returns.


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Gail Marie

Dec 05, 2013 5:21 AM
I agree Bobis Youruncle see it as a trauma or opportunity for learning.....each has their own set of responses....one we are in control of ourselves...the other we are reacting to others by them triggering our emotions


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:23 AM
Know the notice of mistake , know the notice of waiver, Know you are in your power when you can recite it Viva Voce where the true power is. Counter offer: Your offer is respectfully declined, waive benefits, point of order... You should be good with those ack ack guns of law. And Know we are with you, in support, here to the best of our ability.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:25 AM
And a VOID stamp is handy as hell.


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Gail Marie

Dec 05, 2013 5:25 AM
the kings arsenal


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David Johansen

Dec 05, 2013 5:27 AM
if the birth certificate is the RECIEPT then IT is the proof that somonelse HOLDS SURETY and liability... piss on that while your fucking hon her MISTER SUPERNUMERARY!


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:28 AM
And address them as your honour, cause after that is stated they are obligated to answer in honour. Avoid controversy as it leads to cells. Stand tall.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:31 AM
And now some benefits of being a king. :-D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z8SpgmF0sA


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:37 AM
And remember what ever you put out will be reflected back at you. As above so below.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:37 AM
Calm is in order on the day.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:39 AM
We are not the Admiral, we do not have his experience, We need to behave as guests in their house, to be recognized.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:41 AM
So that we can use our tools that have been freely provided, a gift: for just such a circumstance.


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Gail Marie

Dec 05, 2013 5:42 AM
the system thrives on conflict and controversy...we either feed it or we act like kings


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:43 AM
So "BE A FUCKING KING"


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:44 AM
;-)


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:45 AM
You have your ACT: Notice of Mistake, Point of order, etc.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:48 AM
Humility is the way of the creditor, as pride is fuel for controversy - the true debtor mentality. Ponder this:-) Self control is the best control, only then can your enemy BE your remedy. -Blake Gardner.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 5:59 AM
it is always NOW. Our trauma based programs are designed to kick in when we address perceived authority. No matter who you are in this construct. You have been traumatized. the last case of mass trauma was 911, made a whole nation suggestible to things like the patriot act and such... Guantanamo is a legalized torture centre, just like the inquisition, except the mind control is much more technologically advanced So it is very effective, especially if you watch TV and a lot of movies... So if you are aware of it you can counter it.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 6:02 AM
Did I mention smart phones... We are always connected to the internets... So we can now program ourselves to whatever agenda that fits us and still be distracted from the reality of a situation.


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 6:20 AM
And now something for everyone this guy is the court jester: http://www.altemagazinegr.com/kmea/a72/18c.htm


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 6:25 AM
The counter to fear.


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 8:59 AM
One thing i remember Scott saying at the very beginning was about- "THEY have HIDDEN the answers to this puzzle amongst the Acts-and-Statutes- except...they like to keep the PIECES spaced-out, and moving around (paraphrasing)"


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 05, 2013 9:03 AM
Just when you think you have read it all... some SCHLEP discovers some ACT you've never even heard of and points out something new...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 05, 2013 9:04 AM
By the way... there is a NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS ACT... just sayin' :D


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 9:06 AM
Also a year ago- Dean Clifford himself messaged me after he noticed the info i was posting on his page and suggested i read the Financial Administration Act and tell him what popped-out at me, well this was it: Not bound to execute trusts 59. Her Majesty and a fiscal agent or registrar acting as such are not bound to see to the execution of any express or implied trust to which any securities are subject. http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11/page-29.html#docCont


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 05, 2013 9:07 AM
but aren't we "held under" a constructive trust?


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 9:08 AM
Is this a good enough definition for you Pete of what THEY consider to be the "SECURITY?"- HELLOSSSSSSS! http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11/page-30.html#docCont


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 05, 2013 9:11 AM
Yes, we must EXPRESS this trust...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Dec 05, 2013 9:12 AM
Otherwise its been abandoned...


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 9:13 AM
Dont forget- we've been deemed to be dead ala the Cestui Que Vie Act which has been codefied into our Conveyancing of Law and Property Act here in Ontario, as a result...the Trust THEY set-up initially, has reverted back to them in the form of a RESULTING TRUST, since we were 7 years and 2 weeks old roughly ..oh but the operative words though- WAIT-and-SEE ;)


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Stuart Stone

Dec 05, 2013 10:37 AM
Re: The value of the lien: Think of it like a mechanic's lien/builder's lien: A mechanic does $1000.00 worth of work on a $10 000.00 car. The lien is for $1000.00, not the value of the entire car, but it controls the entire car until the lien is removed/paid/discharged. The mechanic has no right to lien $10 000.00, ONLY the amount of the work done. The lien goes into the asset column of his company as $1000.00 (even though the lien controls $10 000.00 in value). Same for a mortgage...the charge against the property, held by the mortgage company/registered with the titles office, is for the value of the 'loan', NOT the value of the house, but until the loan is paid, they control the entire house/value. You can only lien what you can justify, not some pulled out of your arse value. With the house mortgage example: Mortgage is $30 000.00, house value when sold is $100 000.00...$30 000.00 goes to the mortgage company (the value they can legitimately claim), you keep the other $70 000.00...but until the mortgage is paid, the mortgage company keeps control of the entire $100 000.00 asset, but can ONLY list in their asset column the value that they have legitimate claim to ($30 000.00), as a secured creditor. To take the example further: You have debts of $120 000.00 owing on your estate (unfortunately you just died)... The assets are sold for $100 000.00. The mortgage company, being a secured creditor take the first $30 000.00 & the unsecured creditors fight over the remainder, but in total, $20 000.00 is left unaccounted for & ultimately gets written off by the remaining unsecured creditors. Same goes for the CRF: If 1 million men lien the person for $1 million each (because that is what you can realistically claim/lien into your corporation as an asset...because your working life becomes the corporation's asset), totalling $1 billion, and the CRF only has $2 billion, well the remaining men/women, now being unsecured creditors fight over the scraps (their piece of the total pie just got a lot smaller). This is why you may want to factor in inflation into your claim/lien, to keep control of the lien if/when the government allow the currency to be printed into oblivion (& a loaf of bread becomes worth $1 million). From an accountant's point of view, a perfected lien's value is its face value because once perfected, it is now a specie of money. The perfected lien is now regarded as a security, with a certain value: THAT is the value that is inserted into the asset column. If you don't want to pay for a corporate audit, keep it realistic, because it's a bit ridiculous having a new company all of a sudden worth $100 million in it's first year of trading...might raise a few eyebrows. To find an accountant: Find one that works with mortgage companies because all he is doing is putting the mortgages/liens in the asset column of the mortgage company as book value/money of account. That may help Chris Evan It's what you negotiate that book value for in the open market (banks, investment houses etc) that establishes its tradeable value... eg: lien for $1 million, negotiated with a bank...bank agrees to lend $100 000.00 against the book value of the lien (bank is acting as a currency exchange & the exchange rate is 10 cents on the face value of your specie of money), then the 'money of exchange' value just became $100 000.00, not $1 million....same as when you exchange 10 hryvna (Ukraine) for 1 euro...you may be worth a million in Ukraine, but only $100k in Europe...(just as you may be worth 20 gazillion in your private corporation but fuckall on the streets...so don't cash it in & find out, just keep control of it via the lien...own nothing, control everything). So the tradeable value = $100 000.00. As Scott says...the problem is realising that you have no value...the bank may offer $1000.00 in exchange for a $1 million lien... but a $100k lien against a cop (in his private capacity), for aiding and abetting the kidnap of a child for example, may be worth $50k, or even $80k to his pissed off ex wife...after all, it's all just business, contracts & negotiations at the end of the day ;-)


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Dec 05, 2013 2:57 PM
<<Stuart Stone: As Scott says...the problem is realizing that you have no value...the bank may offer $1000.00 in exchange for a $1 million lien...>> I have been thinking the same thing. What is/has been "The Tender for Law" all about? There lies all the answers. I have been building me a new PROGRAM, using the information given by Scott. It all start's with "it's all about SURETY and ACCOUNTING," and then keep building on that. My program tells me to focus on MY TRUST, in MY LLC, get a CLUE and get my accounting done, how to create CREDIT with minimum liability, all with the little new world I have created for MYSELF. A world I created, a world I can control. What I don't control, I just wont worry about. So, I have created a "Bullshit File", a filter. A HUGE fucking filter. I put EVERYTHING in the "Bullshit File" first. Then, if is not in accord with what I have learned here/been programmed here, it STAYS in the "Bullshit File". It works WONDERFUL! This is what it's in/on my mind, ALL THE TIME: <<Scott Duncan: The very name of this group, THE TENDER FOR LAW, is all about that mysterious phrase, �THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER�. I'll be the first to admit there are a great number of benefits to be enjoyed in commerce, when everybody plays by the rules. As I'm sure everyone is sadly aware of, by now; Nobody is playing by the rules anymore. Trying to �fix the system�, or call them to account in their own system, is simply �appealing to your rapist�. It baffles me that anyone would think this is sound thinking.>> <<Scott Duncan: As I'm in a unique position to �follow the money�, I can determine who needs to pay the price for the royal screw-over we've been given. As I type this, a team of system's engineers (and trained monkeys) are preparing for you, the reader, a step-by-step guide for cleaning out every financial institution that touches these shores. The only price that I ask for this knowledge is that you pass it on to others. Pay it forward...and get paid at the same time. Who else offers that shit? I am many things. I am prorogued Nobility. I am a published author. I am a composer. Above all...the thing that forms the core of who and what I am, is that I am a computer scientist. Those who have taken the time to actually listen to me, will recognize many �Scott-isms�; and the phrase �COMPUTER SCIENCE IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING� is repeated almost as often as my Number 1 �Scott-ism�, �THE MAJORITY IS ALWAYS WRONG.� You ignore these two truths at your own peril. ...and reality does not care what you �believe�. This lengthy preamble is to drive the next point home. DO NOT TRY TO COMBINE DEAN'S METHODS WITH MINE. There is no remedy in fraud. There simply isn't.>> <<Scott Duncan: I lien the NAME because I GAVE IT VALUE. I want the value, not the government. Now it's trust property. What exactly did you expect "them" to give you, when you demand they "give you the bond"? What IS this shit you've pulled out of your ass? A lien puts you first in line when it comes to monetization. You become your own creditor. YOU get all the value. BUT IT BELONGS TO THEM! What are you going to do after? Walk into the BANK OF CANADA with a $20 bill screaming "give me the fucking bond"? Derek Moran: So you placed a lien on the Bond.. does PPSA act like a bank to get the value for it out of it? Scott Duncan: No. If I have VALUE, I ALREADY HAVE it. I don't need to "get value" out of a claim. It's just a claim. If my name has VALUE I GET THE BENEFIT. Before I claimed it, THE GOVERNMENT DID. If you didn't SIGN IT, then YOU DON'T OWN IT. 2 signatures and a TRUSTEE you dont own it, until you claim it.. you dont claim it, until you lien it Was that so hard to grasp? You STILL don't own it. You are JUST THE BENEFICIARY of the VALUE. Just like the bearer of a $20 bill is the BENEFICIARY of the VALUE. NOBILITY COMMANDS WITH QUESTIONS ADMIRALS COMMAND WITH REQUESTS GENERALS COMMAND WITH ORDERS Why do you care what these strangers have done? Do you need their PERMISSION to claim it? WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO THEM? Are you WINDOW SHOPPING for SERVICES? Perhaps you can mail the ministry of natural resources and ask if you are wildlife too! Good use of your time. I can really see it's paid off.>> <<Scott Duncan: Seriously. Lien it and use your name without JOINDER. Seriously! THESE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS! STOP TRYING TO JOIN THEIR PARTY! Too many points of failure. Lien your name. Goodbye government. Start a corporation Make an "internal" currency. GET A CLUE and do your ACCOUNTING. Go live your life. THE END. Just make sure the shareholders are people you TRUST. You are like a gold-digging whore who spends but doesn't want to fuck the old rich guy. Stop trying to "profit". JUST EXCHANGE. This is NOT a Ben Lowry "game the system" course.>> <<Scott Duncan: You need to CLAIM the VALUE you have contributed to the name. Lien the shit out of it, and call yourself something else. No "given" name. Only TAKEN names have power.>> <<Scott Duncan: LIEN IT so THEY get no value. You are free then... except you can't get credit. ...but your corporation can!>> <<Scott Duncan: The government is not a PERSON. You have a PERSON and YOU are responsible. You contracted with a TRUST, not a PERSON. The signature PROVES you UNDERSTAND. There's ONLY ONE PERSON INVOLVED, YOURS! THE PERSON (There IS only one in the transaction) is ALWAYS responsible. GOVERNMENT is a TRUST. BIRTH CERTIFICATE = BILL OF LADING Parents were the GRANTOR (one of the parties that created the bill of lading). Listen up and pay attention. YOU ARE THE CARRIER! A Truck ACTING AS CARRIER is NOT "120,000 RonCo Turnip Twaddlers"! IT IS, IN FACT, A CARRIER THAT HAS "120,000 RonCo Turnip Twaddlers"! It's delivering it to YOU (The Beneficiary). It just hasn't arrived yet. You don't know that YOU own the CARGO. If you OWN the cargo you are transporting you are no longer in commerce. You are transporting PROPERTY. The NAME is the CARGO, and the BIRTH CERTIFICATE is the BILL OF LADING. It's valueless on it's own. Hence the term "Sold a bill of goods". Ok, got it so far (I think)...so when you lien the name, are you doing it because you haven't been paid for transport/carriage of the goods? You are letting the world know that the cargo is in fact YOURS. Nobody has the right to presume your cargo is for commerce now. That i ALL a Lien is.>>


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Dec 05, 2013 2:57 PM
<<Joel Kinmond: And, is there a way for me to access the credit and or use it as a medium of exchange - short of selling it - which I would not even consider, because it isn't "MINE" Scott Duncan: NO. Stop trying to access credit that has nothing to do with you.>> <<Scott Duncan: Bitcoin is CURRENCY. Nothing more. The BANK part is YOU. Someone: So...... Once corporation is established and we create credits. People who need credits purchase our credits they Benefit from credits. We keep filling the atm up and eventuality the monetary system reaches a point where bitcoin has got them running? Scott Duncan: No we keep that money (It's the GOOD stuff! Money of exchange!), only send the INTEREST back to Canada. Putting money back into circulation, gives the Canadians money they can earn to pay THEIR interest. It will allow economic growth for an extra 30 years, and kill the banks in the process. Someone: So that's the big deal..... That is one big benefit of sovereignty. The ability to create credit. Wow! Its good to be the King! Scott Duncan: Yes...SO BE A FUCKING KING! Study BITCOIN MINING. Collectively the "individual" banks MINE in a cluster. Coins harvested get distributed evenly throughout. EVERYONE gets a piece of the loot. Money grows by sitting there and it is like "interest" but at 6 or 7 percent.>> <<Scott Duncan: Watch "Money As Debt III" and stop trying to DESTROY debt, just move it elsewhere. You want your paid debt to become MONEY OF EXCHANGE. YOU "create" money and it is endorsed by the bank, who will act as currency exchange. One mortgage/loan exists. That's where the money comes from...no surprise there. Where does the INTEREST come from? If you make YOUR bank deposit to your bank's accounts and you instead MOVE the payment into BITCOIN or another currency of exchange, that "paid" money goes BACK INTO the free market. YOU don't profit EVERYONE ELSE DOES. Get it? You remove control of the money supply from the banks. People will still pay interest, but that interest gets returned to the "spendable" market. Taxes would be paid by people who get loans from YOU, if you ran a republic... or a trust... with people you trust... which form a community... >> <<Scott Duncan: When you understand what money is, you can construct money through VALUE. If it exists in the real world, it has VALUE. Any currency used to track that VALUE, when exchanging goods, is MONEY OF EXCHANGE. Bitcoin, on the other hand, does not exist in the real world. Only its mysterious creators have any COPYHOLD on the VALUE. That's the thing about Bitcoin - in the end the guys that created it, get all the money. They get this because people volunteer to take alpha-test-grade, proof-of-concept code, and open their computers up to the Internet. They then give hardware-level access to their memory, processor, GPU and hard drive, to a rogue, autonomous process that their empty, little heads couldn't even dream of understanding, with no one paying attention to its original intent -- which is to prove that it could be done. Don't get me wrong, there are people who are doing this on purpose, because the VALUE is returned almost immediately. For Bitcoin has all the properties of gold, without the liabilities. Bitcoin is but one cryptographic currency. AQUILAE has its own cryptographic currency. It cannot be counterfeited, and is a near-perfect accounting mechanism. AQUILAE is not even a PERSON, it's a TRUST. If a TRUST can have a currency, why can't you? What I am building for everyone here, is a method to remove the middle-man. If you have your own currency, you don't need a bank. If cryptographic currencies can't be counterfeited, then it's trade cannot be regulated. It remains within the private realm and the ease at which you can convert your currency to MONEY OF EXCHANGE anywhere in the world, is directly proportional to your VALUE. In the current economic framework, backed by debt-based FIAT currency, the only legitimate path to wealth is to produce, to make something in the real world that didn't exist before. >>


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Stuart Stone

Dec 05, 2013 3:11 PM
That's pure gold Mackximus Minimus :D Thank you for compiling this!


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 3:13 PM
*Standing Ovation*


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 10:01 PM
"He said to me, he gave the answers away at the beginning." Bobis, how many times did he say at the very beginning of the page- "NO COMMERCE EXPECTED AND/OR IMPLIED - CASH-UP-FRONT or PAY-WITH-YOUR-(VAGINA, tee-hee-hee)" ?? CLAIM OF RIGHT TAKE NOTICE: That I CLAIM THE RIGHT NOT to ENGAGE IN COMMERCE. Therefore, LET IT BE KNOWN THAT there is to be NO COMMERCE EXPECTED AND/OR IMPLIED with and/or from ME, and that I WISH to DISCHARGE ANY DEBTS by CASH and/or CREDIT with MY SIGNATURE, ONLY.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 10:05 PM
I WISH to DISCHARGE ANY DEBTS by CASH and/or CREDIT ONLY. :D HAHAHAHA!!! :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 10:05 PM
Who said Scott did not know about buck-o-five, and/or discharging debts ? :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 10:06 PM
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :D


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Gail Marie

Dec 05, 2013 10:07 PM
he knew he didnt want the debt discharged...he wanted currency exchanged to bitcoin for example and the interest placed back in the economy as I comprehended it


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 10:10 PM
Fuck is this ever fucking POWERFUL :D "NO COMMERCE EXPECTED AND/OR IMPLIED - CASH-UP-FRONT or PAY-WITH-YOUR-(VAGINA, tee-hee-hee)" ?? CLAIM OF RIGHT TAKE NOTICE: That I CLAIM THE RIGHT NOT to ENGAGE IN COMMERCE. Therefore, LET IT BE KNOWN THAT there is to be NO COMMERCE EXPECTED AND/OR IMPLIED with and/or from ME, and that I WISH to DISCHARGE ANY DEBTS by CASH and/or CREDIT ONLY.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 10:10 PM
:D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 05, 2013 10:19 PM
I don't know, but it sounds fucking complicated, compare to that ^^^:/


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Derek Moran

Dec 05, 2013 11:06 PM
More SECURITY definitions for you, Pete- HELLOSSSSSSS! "security" means, except as otherwise provided in sections 10 to 16, an obligation of an issuer or a share, participation or other interest in an issuer or in property or an enterprise of an issuer, (a) that is represented by a security certificate in bearer form or registered form, or the transfer of which may be registered on books maintained for that purpose by or on behalf of the issuer, (b) that is one of a class or series, or by its terms is divisible into a class or series, of shares, participations, interests or obligations, and (c) that, (i) is, or is of a type, dealt in or traded on securities exchanges or securities markets, or (ii) is a medium for investment and by its terms expressly provides that it is a security for the purposes of this Act; "financial asset" means, except as otherwise provided in sections 10 to 16, (a) a security, (b) an obligation of a person that, (i) is, or is of a type, dealt in or traded on financial markets, or (ii) is recognized in any other market or area in which it is issued or dealt in as a medium for investment, (c) a share, participation or other interest in a person, or in property or an enterprise of a person, that, (i) is, or is of a type, dealt in or traded on financial markets, or (ii) is recognized in any other market or area in which it is issued or dealt in as a medium for investment, (d) any property that is held by a securities intermediary for another person in a securities account if the securities intermediary has expressly agreed with the other person that the property is to be treated as a financial asset under this Act, or (e) a credit balance in a securities account, unless the securities intermediary has expressly agreed with the person for whom the account is maintained that the credit balance is not to be treated as a financial asset under this Act; http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_06s08_e.htm


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August le Blanc

Dec 05, 2013 11:25 PM
One stands corrected. It is a process: not one I will use. I will go by the guidance here. So I will catch up and see whats what. No commerce expected and or implied. Elements of it are interesting. The whole Acceptance of honour part... It is a n interesting concept. After the record banking profits released today... Well something ain't right.


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 06, 2013 1:17 AM
<<<<Scott Duncan: I just showed you how to survive without Fiat currency. Create a person. That person acts as currency exchange. YOU only accept currency that is NOT fiat currency. If people want your servies/value, they have to BUY YOUR CURRENCY.>> <<I have a much larger agenda. It involves making wealthy free people. This makes them happy and grateful...and very angry and violent when strangers try to take what they truly KNOW is theirs. ...It's also quite handy when a lot of grateful people owe ME a real or perceived debt, and I happen to find myself in a position where I need to raise a task force to protect my interests. THE TENDER FOR LAW project is just one of MANY that I have going right now. Everything you see is carefully planned. Even REICH-ROLLED will trigger a desired action in the right place. ...but its only purpose is to keep to a private oath. I'm going to show you all how EVERYTHING works, and how to exploit it. You will get wealthy, if you learn everything, but you should give the surplus, to me. Interest free. I will return it whenever you wish. I just need it for a short time to build an illegal bank. Nothing too scary.>> <<Scott Duncan: If you waive the benefit of the ACT, the name is "abandoned" but has a claim... except the government is not a PERSON. They have NO authority to claim. They can only have custody. Custody - Custodian. Simple huh?>> <<Scott Duncan: Lien the AG's office with the court file as the account. And lien your own property. This is just tossing it out there. "last minute" is not something I do. Every time, either the client lies, or the data I get about the case is inaccurate. I can't work with "last minute">> November 13 at 5:27am � Like � 1 Mackximus Minimus <<Scott Duncan: WHAT DISTINGUISHES THE TWO? OWNERSHIP POSSESSION There is only ONE difference. *sigh* LAW is about CONTRACT for COMMERCE and its INTENT. The ONLY thing COMMERCE (and therefore Law) cares about is MONEY, so THEREFORE, if you OWN it, you can SELL it. Title is all that is sold.>> <<Scott Duncan: But Roguesupport Inc. may only hold trusts, and acts in commerce in name only, to maintain operations and the trust. So the money I get paid, goes into YOUR TRUST. A big-ass crypto-trust where every last fucking cent is accounted for, 24/7. Every second, of every day. Only the beneficiaries of the trust can attach and see it. To everyone else, it's just a UUID public key. NO NAME. I mean, do you REALLY care if you buy a TV with a crypto-currency?>> <<3 years ago, you had never heard of a 3d printer, now you can get one for under $2000. Trust me when I say, you will be able to "print" genome "patches" with off-the-shelf equipment. You just need the knowledge/skill. We can ALMOST do that NOW. All you need to do is keep up. That's what I'm doing now. You have to CATCH up... which is NOT easy, and is getting harder every day. ...it's easier to think "jesus did it". That's the problem, because as I said, we have learned more in the past 10 years than we have in the past 2000 years, and every day you think "Jesus did it", is a day 300 new things are discovered, and we move ever farther apart in the whole "Knowledge Gap". Eventually I'll need to be "employed" by the commercial science industry, because the rest of you would be too stupid to provide any value. ...but I truly tried to wake people up in time. It's too late. Tara Duncan lives her life on an intellectual stair-master that never stops...and that's just so she can keep up. She has access to me 24/7. ...what chance do any of you have? It won't be "repo men". It will be a transfer of ownership. You will be "owned" by somebody like me. Someone like me who studies REALITY and not imaginary sky-daddies TODAY, will decide if you live or die, tomorrow.>> <<Scott Duncan: I'm just warming up, Trent! It's going to take a bit of social-engineering, and a LOT of teaching, but I am building something HUGE. When thetenderforlaw.com is up, then I will start showing you how to secure your freedom with technology. Not only that, I will show you all, step-by-step, how to do EXACTLY the same thing. All the government stooges can do is tremble in impotent fury, while we construct beyond their understanding. I'm waiting for a declaration of "crazy" from the government, so I am free to disclose EVERYTHING... including the very contract that bound me to keep my mouth shut. So, I'm glad you appreciate it, and am overjoyed that you are actually USING it in its proper manner. It's not an ego-boost, it's reassurance that I'm not wasting my most precious asset; My time.>>


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 06, 2013 1:19 AM
<<Scott Duncan I have been living on MY currency. Want to do business with ME? You pay me in MY currency, which I sell at a VERY reasonable rate. Your quandary isn't how to live without Fiat Currency. It's that you have no VALUE.>> <<Ok, let's put this in a context you have seen. CURRENCY EXCHANGES (That's all BANKS are) You do not buy ANYTHING except CURRENCY with the Fiat Currency, (which is immediately sent to accounts:PAYABLE in Roguesupport Inc. to discharge external debts or to act as INVESTED CAPITOL). Now that you have BOUGHT the currency, you can pay me. I get paid up front. Roguesupport Inc. and Human Machines Inc. will gladly sell you some. You do this everytime you go to a Fairground and buy tickets for the rides. You are doing EXACTLY the same thing. It's ALL ACCOUNTING. NOTHING ELSE.>> <<You aren't even qualified to use my services. People should get remuneration for their service/value. I just don't want to attach a tender for law to my jurisdiction. So I only accept MY currency. I think you miss the EXCHANGE part if it... and don't EVER imply that I charge money for information again. EVER. If you need communications networks, Enterprise networks, or just need a computer to do shit for you... That's what I do. Above all I am a COMPUTER SCIENTIST. That has value. You must pay for it in the currency I DECIDE. Don't like it, hire my *cough* Competition. ...but I don't "sell" knowledge. As you can see, I don't even tolerate the vague inference that I may do such a thing.>> <<You are born into a world that is part of a closed banking system. That's the truth. It was created by an elite commercial class in English Society in the 1500's. The US war of independence was to ESCAPE the closed banking system of the Commerce Class (The Nobility). It started because the EAST INDIA CORPORATION was in trouble... and they were "too big to fail". Sound familiar? It was engineered to be automated and self-maintaining, and it was designed to run in cycles. Nothing before 1500 AD actually exists in commerce and is considered "prehistory". You live in the end of one of those cycles. That's it.>> << I just showed you how to survive without Fiat currency. Create a person. That person acts as currency exchange. YOU only accept currency that is NOT fiat currency. If people want your servies/value, they have to BUY YOUR CURRENCY. The reason YOU can't do that was mentioned earlier. YOU HAVE NO VALUE. Information is NOT a commodity, it's a right. Selling information is fraud. Your "time" is NOT valuable in commerce. It just isn't, because you have nothing that anyone wants. That's why what I showed you went over your head.>> <<Ok.. step by step: 1: Kill your PERSON. Stop contributing VALUE to it. Do not permit the government to attach a name to a man/woman that is derived from a public document. 2: Incorporate or use an existing corporation. 3: Charter the corporation to provide private currency for shareholders. 4: Sell the currency. 5: Profit.>>


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Anibal Jose Baez

Dec 06, 2013 1:24 AM
There is something BIGGER here, for whoever is paying attention. Scott Duncan IS a fucking genius.


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Rick Carne

Dec 06, 2013 2:43 AM
Bond. I a: A usually formal written agreement by which a person undertakes to perform a certain act (as fulfill the obligations of a contract) . . with the condition that failure to perform or abstain will obligate the person . . to pay a sum of money or will result in the forfeiture of money put up by the person or surety. lb: One who acts as a surety. 2: An interest-bearing document giving evidence of a debt issued by a government body or corporation that is sometimes secured by a lien on property and is often designed to take care of a particular financial need. -- Ibid. -- Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law (1996). Banknote. A kind of negotiable instrument, a promissory note made by a bank payable to the bearer on demand, used as money, and in many jurisdictions is legal tender. Along with coins, banknotes make up the cash or bearer forms of all modern money........does not the birth certificate have the words bank note on it?.........THE CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION OF LIVE BIRTH IS BY BANKING DEFINITION TERMED �A CERTIFICATED SECURITY� FROM THE BANK OFFICERS HANDBOOK OF COMMERCIAL BANKING LAW WITHIN THE UNITED STATES � 22.07[6][a] SECURITY TRANSACTIONS 22-72 [a] Certified Securities. Certificated securities are stocks, bonds, and the like. The 1977 version of Article 8 of the UCC defines them as interests �represented by instruments� that are issued in �bearer or registered form�; that are of the type commonly traded on securities exchanges or markets or recognized as a medium for investment; that are one of a class or series; and that provide evidence of a share, a participation, or another interest in an issuer�s property enterprise, or obligation. UCC � 8-102(1). The definition of certificated security is sufficiently broad so that it may sweep under its coverage instruments that, on first impression, might not be thought of as securities. The definition does not require that the interest in question actually be traded upon a securities exchange or other market. It is enough, as the comments indicate, that the interests are � �of a type� commonly traded in those markets.� UCC � 8-102. When the interest is classified as a security, it is governed by Article 8, rather than by Article 9, on questions of enforceability and perfection of security interests. The rules in Articles 8 and 9 for perfecting security interests in instruments and securities are generally comparable, as they both require possession, but there are some differences. As a general rule, a security interest in a certificated security is perfected in the same way as under the prior version of the UCC. The secured party must take possession, or, when the security is in the hand of the bailee, must give notice to the bailee. UCC �� 8-313(1)(a), 8-313(1)(c), 8-313(1)(e), 8-313(1)(h), 8-321(1). It is possible for a security interest to be temporarily perfected, as was the case under the former version of the UCC for a period of twenty-one days without possession by a secured party. See UCC �� 8-321(2), 8-313(4). Compare also, UCC � 9-304. When the certificated security is transferred outright to the secured party, no written security agreement signed by the debtor is needed to make the security interest enforceable. UCC �� 8-321(3)(b). A written security agreement signed by the debtor and describing the collateral is required when the security is in the possession of the bank or broker holding the security in an account for the debtor (who is the banker�s or broker�s customer), or when the security is held by some other third person. UCC �� 8-313(h)(i), 8-313(h)(ii). Compare UCC � 8-313(1)(e), which does not require a written security agreement when a security is held by a third person other than a bank or a broker who acknowledges that he or she is holding for the secured party. Article 8 makes a significant change in requiring that the secured party or the secured party�s agent possess the certificated security, not only to perfect a security interest (in cases where the temporary perfection rules don�t apply) but also for the security interest to attach and to be enforceable. UCC � 8-321(1). Under the previous version of Article 8, although the security interest would not be perfected until the secured party took possession, the secured party would have in the security an unperfected security interest, which could be enforced against the debtor as long as a sufficient written security agreement existed and there were no third parties with superior rights to the collateral. UCC �� 9-201, 9-203.


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August le Blanc

Dec 06, 2013 4:48 AM
Someone has made a few mistakes,. Someone is aware of strong programming not wanting him to get this, the deceptions on so many levels. Powerful words are at work to keep the truth away. Someone will carry on.


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Chris Evan

Dec 13, 2013 12:59 AM
684 comments for a quick question! HAHA


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Derek Moran

Dec 13, 2013 1:56 AM
FIAT MONEY: Money (e.g., bank notes and coins), that is legal tender by GOVERNMENT DECLARATION, and is not backed by gold or silver. Its intrinsic value is divorced from its monetary face value (i.e., the value stated on it), which rests on public confidence in the issuing authority�usually the central bank. NOTE: All currency in circulation in Canada is fiat money. http://www.bankofcanada.ca/publications-research/glossaries/glossary/


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Blake Gardner

Dec 13, 2013 5:13 AM
Chris. A title is split whenever something is registered / contracted / entrusted / financed ect...alloidial title is unsplit. Legal title is always the controller, equitable title is the user. A drivers license is a contract. A record of live birth is a title, like a manufactures certificate of origin:)


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Derek Moran

Dec 13, 2013 5:16 AM
Would you hypothetically Blake rather have TITLE to any Estate in ALLODIAL, or FEE SIMPLE ABSOLUTE?


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Derek Moran

Dec 13, 2013 5:23 AM
I think when Scott kept on drumming-home the point that- "You have no VALUE".....what he was really also saying was- "...and thats because you lost your TITLE"......i seem to recall a boxing-analogy you used with that some time ago, Blake


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Rick Carne

Dec 13, 2013 5:48 AM
if you purchase a thing your receipt of that thing is your Allodial title to it if you are the creator of a thing it is yours in allodium..if you register the thing with an agency or the state you have abandoned your allodial title of that thing and by the act of registration and under MARITIME ADMIRALTY SALVAGE the state now holds that allodial title(you gave it to them by your consent) and they then hold that title as surety against you to comply with their club house rules.. however we can undue anything that has been done by notice of mistake of fact by affidavit/declaration...you must revoke your consent,all hidden adhesion agreements/contracts that bind you by your consent. not doing this allows "the club" to apply statues and codes to be forced upon you and you must comply due to your agreement or be in dishonor, they then attach surety to you as you have evidenced as well as making yourself surety because of your claim of ownership of the property that they now hold in allodium because you abandoned it...


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Blake Gardner

Dec 14, 2013 12:47 AM
http://www.ontariorealestatesource.com/images/Allodial%20Title%20as%20explained%20by%20Thomas%20Jefferson.pdf


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 14, 2013 1:02 PM
Reading this makes me feel like I've learned nothing... :(


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 14, 2013 1:03 PM
I like to find comfort in remembering that we have the right not to contract and every encounter is a new person with surety attached.... Aahhh, that's better... :)


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Chris Evan

Dec 14, 2013 1:04 PM
Why Eamonn?


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 14, 2013 1:06 PM
I think reading 500+ posts in 10 mins is bad for the brain...


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 14, 2013 1:10 PM
I've gotten my head too busy thinking about the discharge side of things when I had a pretty good understanding of the deflecting surety side...


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 1:12 PM
Well, discharging IS deflecting surety


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 14, 2013 1:16 PM
So the bank is surety when discharging?


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 1:20 PM
The government is surety


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 1:22 PM
So it has to use its bank to discharge the debt.....here in Canada, the government's bank is the Bank of Canada


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 14, 2013 1:22 PM
Righto... I'll wait for Catherine down at the bank to get back to me so... :p


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 1:23 PM
HAHAHA!!!! :D


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 1:24 PM
Is there a PUBLIC debt in your country Eamonn O Brien ??


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 14, 2013 1:26 PM
You are joking...? I'm in Ireland... IMF have been here a few yrs now Pierre...


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 1:27 PM
Well, I am in QUebec, so I don't know what's going on in Ireland....... Do you have a PUBLIC debt.....if yes, How much ? And how many PERSONS there is in Ireland ?


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 14, 2013 1:29 PM
At the end of 2012 the debt was �192 billion with 4.5 million people


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 1:36 PM
Oh fuck !!!! :/


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 14, 2013 1:37 PM
yup


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 1:38 PM
So it's close to 43,000 Euros per persons......what do you think has been placed in COLLATERAL over that debt ?


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 14, 2013 1:42 PM
Oh I understand how it's been orchestrated Pierre... The people's productivity is pledged as collateral...


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 2:05 PM
The persons they've created are placed in collateral........not you, only the person you happen to have in your pocket ....


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 2:06 PM
That is WHY they are surety......


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 2:10 PM
That is why, when a debt is sent to the person, it can be discharge through the surety That is WHY if the person gets CHARGED, the surety is there for YOU to use it, and it's your right to use it.....NO be it, but USE it.... They are the one that are trying to DEFLECT surety upon us.....not the other way around... ;)


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Chris Evan

Dec 14, 2013 2:12 PM
Pete...that was perfectly written, you should post that in the Admin group


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Eamonn O Brien

Dec 14, 2013 2:13 PM
"They are the one that are trying to DEFLECT surety upon us.....not the other way around..." Nice...


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 2:15 PM
That is true... :/


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 2:16 PM
They've been doing this to me all my life.....just DEFLECTING surety on "ME"....


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Pete Daoust

Dec 14, 2013 2:17 PM
But today, after meeting a complete stranger online named Scott, I know it :D


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