The Tender For Law

Volume 4

Nov 27, 2013 9:44 PM

Norah Holloway

PRESS RELEASE- November 27 2013

UPDATE on Dean Clifford

DEAN CLIFFORD COVERTLY TRANSPORTED TO WINNIPEG - DeanClifford

deanclifford.info

Further to our press release of November 26th 2013, updated information has now been made available which outlines Dean Clifford�s whereabouts for the few several days.

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Ba Ulmer

well i know i would have lost it for all that swaping out which was probly intended to piss him off and as you say it probly did but my guess is he is waiting for the end of the ride to kick in his knowledge which is far more threatening to them than any thing else.

Pete Daoust

rrest without warrant by peace officer 495. (1) A peace officer may arrest without warrant

(a) a person who has committed an indictable offence or who, on reasonable grounds, he believes has committed or is about to commit an indictable offence; (b) a person whom he finds committing a criminal offence; or (c) a person in respect of whom he has reasonable grounds to believe that a warrant of arrest or committal, in any form set out in Part XXVIII in relation thereto, is in force within the territorial jurisdiction in which the person is found.

Limitation (2) A peace officer shall not arrest a person without warrant for

(a) an indictable offence mentioned in section 553, (b) an offence for which the person may be prosecuted by indictment or for which he is punishable on summary conviction, or (c) an offence punishable on summary conviction,

in any case where

(d) he believes on reasonable grounds that the public interest, having regard to all the circumstances including the need to

(i) establish the identity of the person, (ii) secure or preserve evidence of or relating to the offence, or (iii) prevent the continuation or repetition of the offence or the commission of another offence,

may be satisfied without so arresting the person, and

(e) he has no reasonable grounds to believe that, if he does not so arrest the person, the person will fail to attend court in order to be dealt with according to law.

Consequences of arrest without warrant (3) Notwithstanding subsection (2), a peace officer acting under subsection (1) is deemed to be acting lawfully and in the execution of his duty for the purposes of

(a) any proceedings under this or any other Act of Parliament; and (b) any other proceedings, unless in any such proceedings it is alleged and established by the person making the allegation that the peace officer did not comply with the requirements of subsection (2).

R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 495; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 75.

Pete Daoust

Deans mike was run through the wall, then through the hotel system, then through their network system, onto the internet, then through a nice and comfortable room, with coffee and donuts and a small buffet, with a bunch of lawyers listening to all this.... :D

Robert Cormier

Ceit Butler (From a former military 17 year old - due in part because I was facing 5 years at 17 due to a bomb threat charge/military cook/civilian chef/hospitality consultant/MP Candidate/neeredowell on occassion/truck driver/pancake lover and much much more) here's the lowdown on Hamilton to Barrie. According to Google... 403 to 407. 407 to 401. 401 to 400. 400 North to Barrie or Bordon. NOTE to whomever: You could easily go to Pearson Internationale Airport via 427 and save a lot of gas. P.S. I still love pancakes, especially now and the way you describe them.

Robert Cormier

summary, adj.(l5c) 1. Short; concise <a summary account ofthe events on March 6>. 2. Without the usual formalities; esp., without a jury <a summary trial>. 3. Immediate; done without delay <the new weapon was put to summary use by the military>. - summarily (silm-ilr-;:J-lee or sd-mair-d-lee), adv. summary, n. (16c) 1. An abridgment or brief. 2. A short application to a court without the formality of a full proceeding. <--Black's 9th

Robert Cormier

proof, n. (l3c) 1. The establishment O[ refutation of an alleged fact by evidence; the persuasive effect of evidence in the mind ofa fact-finder. [Cases: Evidence (;::=-584.] 2. Evidence that determines the judgment of a court. 3. An attested document that constitutes legal evidence. <-- Black's law 9th

Chris Evan

In the audio Dean said he then issued one Notice and doesn't expect to hear about this again. I DID THIS TOO. Guess what? I heard about it again. The same thing that happened to Dean happened to me. I am 98% sure of this!

Eamonn O Brien

I was before a judge bout 2 yrs ago only hours after being arrested. Before leaving the courtroom I had to (under threat of a weekend in jail) sign a recognizance as surety promising to return for the court date the following week... The following week only one charge from the original 4 remained... Funny that...

Pepper Wagner

My point pete, is they are making a BIG "production" of these "busts" to "scare" people and justifiy their budgets and yes I am tired of every little danmed critisim, There are differnt goals for different things and how I conduct my train wrecks may be for differnt outcomes than to just save my skin. THERE IS NO MAJIC BULLET PAPER DOC, that works everytime, for every cercumumstance, yea...show em your sovereign status badge....Like the bull. SO people better quit the bickering, laughing at and basic shit throwing about others that are in "the fight" if you truly want to accomplish the goal of freedom for yourself and others. Yes I have been falsly arrested, Had my dog peppersprayrd & brutilized,window busted out of my truck, partner arrested(2) and released,(canada) States, some of that is even more interesting and may.. live to tell about that...(Grin grin my dog that chewed the crap out of a RCMPs arm is safe here at home....california....and my fight continues on multiple levels for different reasons and outcomes(ooooo, may I get another visit from "spook" men.....and DHS agents....I'll just show em my shiny sovereign badge...

Ceit Butler

Look, signing is NOT a problem if you know HOW to sign. I got out on bail in my case. Guess who told me how to sign? Dean Clifford. Sign: By:____________ RESTRICTED SIGNATURE, RESTRICTED CAPACITY

And draw a box around the entire thing...that REMOVES it from the document. (You know, I'm PRETTY sure I already said this.)

Ceit Butler

As for your "magic document"....the Notice of Mistake is the closest you'll find, for IN court. But ONLY if you all start fucking using it properly! It's NOT just a document.

If at ANY time while you're speaking, you feel you've stepped into their jurisdiction by accepting SURETY, you throw out a VERBAL Notice of Mistake: "If I have led this court to believe that I am a paryt with SURETY in this matter, then that would be a MISTAKE. and please forgive me".

And responding to "You" is the biggest one. Let them know right from the start that as the Sole Beneficiary of the BIRTH CERTIFICATE BOND, you wish to solely be addressed as "insert regular old first name here". And ANYONE who doesn't address you by THAT NAME ONLY, EVERY time that they speak to you, you respond "Are you addressing me? As the SOLE BENEFICIARY, I wish to solely be addressed as:___"

Ceit Butler

Say it as MANY times as you like. (and any time that they RECESS, that resets everything so IMMEDIATELY repeat everything again when they come back!)

Make sure the verbal Notice of Mistake is the very LAST thing that you say before they finish up, so it's the LAST THING on the record and wipes clean any SURETY that may have you accidentally fumbled into.

Ceit Butler

Sign the RIGHT way at your bail hearing and get the fuck out so that you're actually able to handle things properly.

Take the disclosure, read all the LOVELY things that it states on the front, that you are agreeing to by accepting these documents.

STAPLE (so it becomes part of the document and cannot be removed) a Notice of Mistake, neatly, onto the top of the front page and MAIL THAT FUCKER BACK, as declined. :D

Ceit Butler

Then you work on your first document. Notice of Questions for the Court.

Address every question that you need answered in order to UNDERSTAND the NATURE and CAUSE of these PROCEEDINGS. Also include your Affidavit of Status with this document.

Have everything nicely organized with tabs seperating each document, a cover and spiral-bound at your local copy place.

It's a LEGAL DOCUMENT...so make it fucking look like one. You don't want to be treated like a joke in court? Then don't give them ANY excuse to.

Include the Notice of Mistake in a tab marked EXHIBIT #1 in the back. It has already been submitted when you sent the DISCLOSURE back by REGISTERED MAIL (with NO return address!). Give them 10 days to respond, have your documents NOTARIZED and mail it in.

Ceit Butler

When the 5 days expire, you send them a NOTICE of DEFAULT.

Again, everything professionally spiral-bound, tabs, covers, and type it out in the correct format. Look at samples of legal documents, pay attention to how they are laid out.

Ceit Butler

Other than filling up the thread with useless bullshit, destracting from the ACTUAL CONTENT, and making sure that anyone new who may be browsing will immediately dismiss the thread?

Because that's the only possible "point" that I can see.

Chris Evan

Discharge To liberate or free; to terminate or extinguish. A discharge is the act or instrument by which a contract or agreement is ended. A mortgage is discharged if it has been carried out to the full extent originally contemplated or terminated prior to total execution.

Discharge also means to release, as from legal confinement in prison or the military service, or from some legal obligation such as jury duty, or the payment of debts by a person who is bankrupt. The document that indicates that an individual has been legally released from the military service is called a discharge.

The performance of a duty discharges it. An attorney may speak of discharging a legal obligation.

as opposed to:

dismiss v. the ruling by a judge that all or a portion (one or more of the causes of action) of the plaintiff's lawsuit is terminated (thrown out) at that point without further evidence or testimony. This judgment may be made before, during, or at the end of a trial, when the judge becomes convinced that the plaintiff has not and cannot prove his/her/its case. This can be based on the complaint not alleging a cause of action, a motion for summary judgment, plaintiff's opening statement of what will be proved, or some development in the evidence by either side which bars judgment for the plaintiff. The judge may dismiss on his own or upon motion by the defendant. The plaintiff may voluntarily dismiss a cause of action before or during trial if the case is settled, if it is not provable, or trial strategy dictates getting rid of a weak claim. A defendant may be "dismissed" from a lawsuit, meaning the suit is dropped against that party

Ceit Butler

How about restricting the Grade-School BULLSHIT to personal chats?

I was mistakenly under the impression that you all wanted to learn something.

I am going over the steps from my case with you because I thought you were finally at levels of understanding that would allow you to grasp this. (Posting every back in July would have been like handing a loaded shotgun to a 2 year old.) Again, clearly mistaken.

Ceit Butler

You send it to the CLERK...the person in charge of the court file and the PUBLIC RECORD. Send a copy to the CROWN ATTORNEY as well, if you like. I had additional copies with me when I went to court. That way, if they tried to claim they had not received them, I could KINDLY provide them with one. (Aren't I nice? :D )

Ceit Butler

It's not "THEIR fault" that you forgot to mention that you weren't the LEGAL PERSON, they're simply operating on presumptions. The burden of correcting that error lies on you.

That's how you have to treat it.

Ceit Butler

Yes. Now, I went to my first appearance, stated my status as the SOLE BENEFICIARY and that I wish to be solely addressed as KATHRYN.

The JUSTICE did that, no arguement, which means he just ACQUIESCED and TACITLY AGREED that I am in FACT the SOLE BENEFICIARY.

I then ordered the TRANSCRIPT and attached it as an EXHIBIT in each proceeding document as PROOF.

Ceit Butler

The JUSTICE attempted to enter a plea for me, three times, to which I responded "I DO NOT CONSENT." They'll try to trick you, just stand your ground. Do not consent, and NOTICE of MISTAKE.

(Make sure you KEEP all your ORIGINAL notarized documents. Send them colour copies.)

Ceit Butler

As a BONUS, we have an object lesson!

Eamonn O Brien, you just failed the SURETY TEST! :p

"Please don't let one member's comments deter you from sharing Ceit. It's MUCH appreciated..."

At NO point did I mention YOUR name, you just responded to "you" and accepted SURETY. ;)

Try to get your mind into the habit of spotting that when it happens, and it will seve you well.

Eamonn O Brien

When an admin posts a similar post to yours Ceit in which they are clearly frustrated with a member/members I tend not to assume surety as a liable party... I didn't want your posts to suddenly stop due to another's comments. Point taken though! Again, fair play tya ;)

August le Blanc

Hey man YOU said it... When I like something, it is an acknowledgement of reading... That is all. I actually sometimes even actually like what is being said. The point Eamonn is pay attention when addressed as you... Train Ourselves in a Knee jerk response " Are YOU addressing me?.." Listening for the subtleties of surety.... and rebutting that assumption promptly.

Antony Mac Phiarais

i know most the staff down the court house form been down there getting affidavits sworn out , now they took the clerks ability to swear out affidavits from him , but i can still get them done elsewhere , i was going into court with affidavits sworn from the same court ..

Derek Moran

"[YOU] all need to understand the power of an affidavit."

Does this have anything to do with THIS Maxim-of-law, Lou?

Qui non negat fatetur. A person who does not deny admits.

p.s. you saw what i did there, right? ;)

August le Blanc

What do maxims of law have to do with a private agreement? Where as, an affidavit is the document, instrument that creates the validity of the law set out in the exhibits; that only can be recognized under an affidavit. It is what creates understanding. It is the the Truth - Law of that particular ACT, of truth telling - law making.

Derek Moran

Ahh fuck, ok- i guess i was DREAMING the other day then, when somebody on Scott's boat was pointing-out this very Maxim to me in regards to Affidavits- oh thats right, he said exactly - "He who does not deny, admits"...my bad, i guess i got the exact wording he used wrong, so everybody else is right and im wrong

..did i mention i was reminded of this Maxim on Scott's BOAT?

August le Blanc

One thinks the most benefit can be derived from ones own creation. Create an affidavit that is the truth of the matter. The laws of which benefit the author. It is taking your creation into their creation. Gaining recognition and settling the matter. According to the terms and conditions set out in proper notice- Exhibit A....

August le Blanc

But to recognize the notice their court requires it be attached to an affidavit as an exhibit. I am thinking about process and the impact and power of acting under an affidavit that legalizes the documentation created for that particular case.

August le Blanc

There is no one to deny it is a trust. They are administrating their creation; the new name derived from the birth certificate to account for the new charges. Surety is created by the creator, create your own surety that benefits you. It cannot be denied, if proper notice is given. I am wanting to comprehend this fully. I am looking for feed back to discuss it... It is important. I do not want to miss the point.

Derek Moran

There are a NUMBER of spots in their OWN CLUBHOUSE RULES where they discuss/mention about the TRUST, because you KNOW that THEY will play dumb at some point and FEIGN IGNORANCE about what you are talking about...anybody who has ever dealt with the Government knows, this is what THEY DO BEST :D

August le Blanc

The ability to be recognized in their court without ever having to be in their court by proper administrative process when dealing with their accounting department: when presented with charges by their administrators.

Derek Moran

This just off Norah's page:

"Norah Holloway Someone just got a call from Dean Clifford. He was brought before the Chief Justice Chartier first thing this morning! Dean dropped his two sentence A-bomb stopped them in their tracks!

Thanks Christopher Sosnowski for the update."

August le Blanc

I was also addressing the why of the affidavit, Why its important to understand it. The truth of the matter. It establishes credibility. Also thinking about the relationship between the concepts and the said Maxim and the application of the affidavit itself.

Derek Moran

Knowing Dean, "his two sentence A-bomb" probably included:

"I AM REQUIRED TO INFORM YOU THAT FORCED COMPLIANCE TO ORDERS BY YOURSELF, AND/OR YOUR AGENTS, IS IN FACT, ACCEPTANCE of my Terms and Conditions."

Second sentence = "Fellas...you're gonna want that cowbell"

August le Blanc

power n. the right, authority and ability to take some action or accomplish something, including demanding action, executing documents, contracting, taking title, transferring, exercising legal rights, and many other acts.

Derek Moran

Here's a question, Norah...the lady that won the 2-hour consultation with Dean...any idea on what her problem was, and is she on facebook...methinks her reading this thread; and for greater certainty, the breakdown Ceit's provided, will probably help her out in the meantime while Dean is back in the KLINK

August le Blanc

truth, noun: accuracy, actuality, authenticity, candor, conformity to fact, correctness, exactness, fact, honesty, integrity, precision, probity, realism, reality, right, sincerity, veracity, veritas, verity Associated concepts: credibility of a witness, reputation for truth, truth in lending laws Foreign phrases: Error fucatus nuda veritate in multis, est probabilior; et saepenumero rationibus vincit veriiatem error.Error artfully disguised is, in many instances, more probable than naked truth; and frequently error overwhelms truth by argumentation. Veritas nimium allercando amittitur. Truth is lost by too much altercation. Sacramentum habet in se tres comites,-veritatem, justitiam, et judicium; veritus habenda est in jurato; justitia et justicium in judice. An oath has in it three components,-truth, justice, and judgment; truth in the party swearing; justice and judgment in the judge addinistering the oath. Fictio cedit veritati. fictio juris non est ubi veritas. Fiction yields to truth. where truth is, ficcion of law does not exist. Qui non libere veritatem proounciat proditor est veritatis. He who does not freely speak the truth is a betrayer of the truth. Veritas, quae minime defensatur opprimitur; et qui non improbat, approbat. Truth which is not sufficiently defended is overrowered; and he who does not disapprove, approves. Veritas nihil veretur nisi abscondi. Truth fears nothing but concealment.

Pete Daoust

concealment n. fraudulent failure to reveal information which someone knows and is aware that in good faith he/she should communicate to another. Examples include failure to disclose defects in goods sold (the horse has been sick, the car has been in an accident), leaving out significant liabilities in a credit application, or omitting assets from a bankruptcy schedule to keep them from being available for distribution to creditors. Such concealment at minimum can be a cause for rescission (cancellation) of a contract by the misled party or a civil lawsuit for fraud. (See: fraud)

:D

Ceit Butler

Silence is aquiescence. If the court does NOT rebut any of the facts stated in your affidavit, then they have TACITLY AGREED with them.

If you DO end up in the courtroom, reading your Affidavit out loud gets it on the PUBLIC RECORD. State afterwards that "For the record, the COURT has tacitly agreed that I <insert previous statements>".

Derek Moran

OOH- regarding Affidavits, on Scott's boat it was made CLEAR.....ONLY, send, the court, PHOTOCOPIES

WE keep the ORIGINAL...the court gets a PHOTOCOPY.....has to do with COPYHOLD, you dont want the court getting their hands on the ORIGINAL...the AUTHOR is the AUTHORITY...so handing over the ORIGINAL to the court is BAD - would you concur, [Ill]Lou Manotti?

Chris Evan

Ceit, in the case that I signed incorrectly, I would think that getting a certified copy of the Recog and writing "New Original" at the top of it and writing "VOID" over the signature would work in lieu, yes?

Lee Edgely

Antonio Piercy You said " i know most the staff down the court house form been down there getting affidavits sworn out , now they took the clerks ability to swear out affidavits from him , but i can still get them done elsewhere , i was going into court with affidavits sworn from the same court" Is there a conflict with the Clerk and the Court or are they just being awkward?