Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 9:52 PM
What a fucking ride !!!...:( , these kind of rides are painful :( So he changed hands 5 times....surety !!!


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 9:55 PM
Kent Barrett, this is PROFIT for them.....think about it !! :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 9:56 PM
That only ride, with these 4 vehicule, must have charged $4k, at least ? :/


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Ba Ulmer

Nov 27, 2013 9:56 PM
and they still couldnt piss him off to play their game .nice patience


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 9:58 PM
Ba Ulmer, are you sure ??? :/


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 9:59 PM
I am pretty sure he might be REAL pissed off as we speak....


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Chris Evan

Nov 27, 2013 10:00 PM
True story...I got a ride from the State Police and he was driving 105 mph. I don't know kph though


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Derek Moran

Nov 27, 2013 10:00 PM
I guess this means Dean will get a chance to put the JP he 'INJURED' somehow on the stand to cross-examine her...?


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Derek Moran

Nov 27, 2013 10:01 PM
"So he changed hands 5 times....surety !!!" GHOST-RUN > as The Admiral predicted


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Chris Evan

Nov 27, 2013 10:02 PM
That guy Paul Rowe was allegedly on a Ghost Run for over 2 years!


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Chris Evan

Nov 27, 2013 10:02 PM
Allegedly


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:03 PM
This whole thing's cost = 10k, as per my calculation, but I might be waaayyy off..


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:04 PM
oh, a flight was involed.....forget about the 10k, maybe 20k must be more on the button :D


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Ba Ulmer

Nov 27, 2013 10:04 PM
well i know i would have lost it for all that swaping out which was probly intended to piss him off and as you say it probly did but my guess is he is waiting for the end of the ride to kick in his knowledge which is far more threatening to them than any thing else.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:05 PM
Are ou sure of that Ba Ulmer ??? :(


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:06 PM
These guys need to "work", and Dean seems to be a good "customer" so far :/


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Chris Evan

Nov 27, 2013 10:06 PM
http://www.suretyone.org/


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:07 PM
a "very good customer" I would say


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:07 PM
Why you post that Chris ? :/


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Chris Evan

Nov 27, 2013 10:08 PM
Because they are issuing bonds to cover the costs you are posting.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:08 PM
I so wish Dean would call on "AQUILAE" :)


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Chris Evan

Nov 27, 2013 10:09 PM
I am pretty sure that would result in a WORSE fate than dealing with these idiots


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:09 PM
WHY ? :/


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Chris Evan

Nov 27, 2013 10:10 PM
If he signed as SURETY, Scott will have him scraping the bottom of the Tycho-Brae with his teeth, Naked, in January


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Ba Ulmer

Nov 27, 2013 10:18 PM
i always thought when the cops come dragging you out of bed at 3 am it was to tire one out and force you into submission out now you mean to tell me its for overtime.thanks for that pete


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:24 PM
Dean has read that a Barrie Officer�s affidavit, which stated it was a �warrantless arrest� I don't get this thing ? :/


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:27 PM
rrest without warrant by peace officer 495. (1) A peace officer may arrest without warrant (a) a person who has committed an indictable offence or who, on reasonable grounds, he believes has committed or is about to commit an indictable offence; (b) a person whom he finds committing a criminal offence; or (c) a person in respect of whom he has reasonable grounds to believe that a warrant of arrest or committal, in any form set out in Part XXVIII in relation thereto, is in force within the territorial jurisdiction in which the person is found. Limitation (2) A peace officer shall not arrest a person without warrant for (a) an indictable offence mentioned in section 553, (b) an offence for which the person may be prosecuted by indictment or for which he is punishable on summary conviction, or (c) an offence punishable on summary conviction, in any case where (d) he believes on reasonable grounds that the public interest, having regard to all the circumstances including the need to (i) establish the identity of the person, (ii) secure or preserve evidence of or relating to the offence, or (iii) prevent the continuation or repetition of the offence or the commission of another offence, may be satisfied without so arresting the person, and (e) he has no reasonable grounds to believe that, if he does not so arrest the person, the person will fail to attend court in order to be dealt with according to law. Consequences of arrest without warrant (3) Notwithstanding subsection (2), a peace officer acting under subsection (1) is deemed to be acting lawfully and in the execution of his duty for the purposes of (a) any proceedings under this or any other Act of Parliament; and (b) any other proceedings, unless in any such proceedings it is alleged and established by the person making the allegation that the peace officer did not comply with the requirements of subsection (2). R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 495; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 75.


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Chris Evan

Nov 27, 2013 10:28 PM
PERSON???


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:28 PM
Of course Chris Evan.....who do you think got arrested ??


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:28 PM
An organization and/or the Queen :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:29 PM
A fucking PERSON, difined by the criminal code of Canada :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:31 PM
So, apparently, Dean is. 1). An organization 2). A Queen 3). The administrator of the person that got arrested :P


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Chris Evan

Nov 27, 2013 10:44 PM
I told you there were cops there


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Chris Evan

Nov 27, 2013 10:45 PM
Deans mike was run through the wall!


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Pete Daoust

Nov 27, 2013 10:53 PM
Deans mike was run through the wall, then through the hotel system, then through their network system, onto the internet, then through a nice and comfortable room, with coffee and donuts and a small buffet, with a bunch of lawyers listening to all this.... :D


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:13 AM
Hey, here's a fun idea! Everyone go to their Google Maps and get directions from Burlington, Ontario, to Barrie, Ontario...and compare that to which direction Highway 401 runs...


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:14 AM
Just, humour me...


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:17 AM
How about NOT the direction to fucking Barrie, for starters?!


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:17 AM
The 401 runs East and West. Barrie is NORTH!


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:21 AM
Hey, here 's another head-scratcher. High-speed, four-car entourage to transport him...but an unsecured, unmarked pick-up truck, with only a few guys and no cuffs to apprehend him?


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:23 AM
The 400 goes to Barrie. I've traveled it many times.


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Tom Davies

Nov 28, 2013 3:25 AM
Does a "promise to appear" absolutely require a signature ? I'm presuming so....but just in case ? Anyone ?


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:25 AM
Apparently that one wasn't good enough. Neither where any of the others they passed on the way.


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Robert Cormier

Nov 28, 2013 3:41 AM
CFB Bordon and a "private" pseudo rendition plane? Hmmm


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 3:55 AM
Maybe Dean was not the only customer aboard this ride......had to made a few stops here and there......I did experimented that kind of shit in the past.....


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Robert Cormier

Nov 28, 2013 4:42 AM
Ceit Butler (From a former military 17 year old - due in part because I was facing 5 years at 17 due to a bomb threat charge/military cook/civilian chef/hospitality consultant/MP Candidate/neeredowell on occassion/truck driver/pancake lover and much much more) here's the lowdown on Hamilton to Barrie. According to Google... 403 to 407. 407 to 401. 401 to 400. 400 North to Barrie or Bordon. NOTE to whomever: You could easily go to Pearson Internationale Airport via 427 and save a lot of gas. P.S. I still love pancakes, especially now and the way you describe them.


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Chris Evan

Nov 28, 2013 4:44 AM
He was released on PERSONAL RECOGNIZANCE. Thats what I did= stupid = signing. Listen to that audio someone posted yesterday....


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Tom Davies

Nov 28, 2013 4:54 AM
Here, at 21:00 on (but can someone be released without a signature???)........ http://deanclifford.info/media/2013-09-20_MyPrivateAudio_ep233_4h26m0s_TS-781274.mp3


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Robert Cormier

Nov 28, 2013 5:03 AM
I'm guessing again...Scott disappearing has to do with security AND FB. :D


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Robert Cormier

Nov 28, 2013 5:13 AM
summary, adj.(l5c) 1. Short; concise <a summary account ofthe events on March 6>. 2. Without the usual formalities; esp., without a jury <a summary trial>. 3. Immediate; done without delay <the new weapon was put to summary use by the military>. - summarily (silm-ilr-;:J-lee or sd-mair-d-lee), adv. summary, n. (16c) 1. An abridgment or brief. 2. A short application to a court without the formality of a full proceeding. <--Black's 9th


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Robert Cormier

Nov 28, 2013 5:15 AM
indict (in-drt), vb. (17c) To charge (a person) with a crime by formal legal process, esp. by grand-jury presentation. Also formerly spelled endUe; indite. <-- Black's law 9th


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Nov 28, 2013 5:19 AM
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Norah Holloway

Nov 28, 2013 1:32 PM
Where's Tara?


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Chris Evan

Nov 28, 2013 1:56 PM
Tom Davies, I did this twice. Released on Personal Recognizance means one signed a BAIL BOND as SURETY. That is all!!! They don't just let you go because you said so, you HAVE to sign it.


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Chris Evan

Nov 28, 2013 1:57 PM
In the audio Dean said he then issued one Notice and doesn't expect to hear about this again. I DID THIS TOO. Guess what? I heard about it again. The same thing that happened to Dean happened to me. I am 98% sure of this!


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 2:02 PM
I was before a judge bout 2 yrs ago only hours after being arrested. Before leaving the courtroom I had to (under threat of a weekend in jail) sign a recognizance as surety promising to return for the court date the following week... The following week only one charge from the original 4 remained... Funny that...


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Mo Chara Do Chara

Nov 28, 2013 2:13 PM
you had to sign or you choose to sign signing has made you surety eamonn did you had in a NOM


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 2:19 PM
Well no one has to sign but 2 days in Cloverhill over a �100 fine did it for me. This was near 2 yrs ago so I had only watched a few vids and felt courageous... Well before TFL


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Pepper Wagner

Nov 28, 2013 2:33 PM
My point pete, is they are making a BIG "production" of these "busts" to "scare" people and justifiy their budgets and yes I am tired of every little danmed critisim, There are differnt goals for different things and how I conduct my train wrecks may be for differnt outcomes than to just save my skin. THERE IS NO MAJIC BULLET PAPER DOC, that works everytime, for every cercumumstance, yea...show em your sovereign status badge....Like the bull. SO people better quit the bickering, laughing at and basic shit throwing about others that are in "the fight" if you truly want to accomplish the goal of freedom for yourself and others. Yes I have been falsly arrested, Had my dog peppersprayrd & brutilized,window busted out of my truck, partner arrested(2) and released,(canada) States, some of that is even more interesting and may.. live to tell about that...(Grin grin my dog that chewed the crap out of a RCMPs arm is safe here at home....california....and my fight continues on multiple levels for different reasons and outcomes(ooooo, may I get another visit from "spook" men.....and DHS agents....I'll just show em my shiny sovereign badge...


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 2:41 PM
Look, signing is NOT a problem if you know HOW to sign. I got out on bail in my case. Guess who told me how to sign? Dean Clifford. Sign: By:____________ RESTRICTED SIGNATURE, RESTRICTED CAPACITY And draw a box around the entire thing...that REMOVES it from the document. (You know, I'm PRETTY sure I already said this.)


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 2:45 PM
As for your "magic document"....the Notice of Mistake is the closest you'll find, for IN court. But ONLY if you all start fucking using it properly! It's NOT just a document. If at ANY time while you're speaking, you feel you've stepped into their jurisdiction by accepting SURETY, you throw out a VERBAL Notice of Mistake: "If I have led this court to believe that I am a paryt with SURETY in this matter, then that would be a MISTAKE. and please forgive me". And responding to "You" is the biggest one. Let them know right from the start that as the Sole Beneficiary of the BIRTH CERTIFICATE BOND, you wish to solely be addressed as "insert regular old first name here". And ANYONE who doesn't address you by THAT NAME ONLY, EVERY time that they speak to you, you respond "Are you addressing me? As the SOLE BENEFICIARY, I wish to solely be addressed as:___"


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Chris Evan

Nov 28, 2013 2:47 PM
^^^ Not only is she smart, but cute too!! :-P


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 2:48 PM
Say it as MANY times as you like. (and any time that they RECESS, that resets everything so IMMEDIATELY repeat everything again when they come back!) Make sure the verbal Notice of Mistake is the very LAST thing that you say before they finish up, so it's the LAST THING on the record and wipes clean any SURETY that may have you accidentally fumbled into.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 2:51 PM
Sign the RIGHT way at your bail hearing and get the fuck out so that you're actually able to handle things properly. Take the disclosure, read all the LOVELY things that it states on the front, that you are agreeing to by accepting these documents. STAPLE (so it becomes part of the document and cannot be removed) a Notice of Mistake, neatly, onto the top of the front page and MAIL THAT FUCKER BACK, as declined. :D


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 2:56 PM
Then you work on your first document. Notice of Questions for the Court. Address every question that you need answered in order to UNDERSTAND the NATURE and CAUSE of these PROCEEDINGS. Also include your Affidavit of Status with this document. Have everything nicely organized with tabs seperating each document, a cover and spiral-bound at your local copy place. It's a LEGAL DOCUMENT...so make it fucking look like one. You don't want to be treated like a joke in court? Then don't give them ANY excuse to. Include the Notice of Mistake in a tab marked EXHIBIT #1 in the back. It has already been submitted when you sent the DISCLOSURE back by REGISTERED MAIL (with NO return address!). Give them 10 days to respond, have your documents NOTARIZED and mail it in.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 2:58 PM
When the 10 days expire, you send them a CERTIFICATE of NON RESPONSE and OPPORTUNITY to CURE. Give them 5 ADDITIONAL days to settle this HONOURABLY. This way THEY are the ones creating CONTROVERSY.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 2:59 PM
Include ALL previously submitted documents thus far, in new tabs in the back. These PROOF now.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:00 PM
When the 5 days expire, you send them a NOTICE of DEFAULT. Again, everything professionally spiral-bound, tabs, covers, and type it out in the correct format. Look at samples of legal documents, pay attention to how they are laid out.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:00 PM
Everybody clear now?!


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:02 PM
And make sure every new document states that UNLESS these questions are answered, you cannot UNDERSTAND the NATURE and CAUSE of these PROCEEDINGS.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:13 PM
Perhaps you missed this part: "You don't want to be treated like a joke in court? Then don't give them ANY excuse to."


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:15 PM
Actually, I don't think I do. Would you care to elaborate on what the point could possibly be?


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Chris Evan

Nov 28, 2013 3:16 PM
"These PROOF now" Ceit, what exactly do you mean by this sentence? Just that the Exhibits are now proof?


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:17 PM
You've mailed them to the COURT CLERK, by REGISTERED MAIL, (oh, sorry, and include copies of your postal receipts with the signature of the party who accepted them) and they are UNREBUTTED.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:20 PM
Other than filling up the thread with useless bullshit, destracting from the ACTUAL CONTENT, and making sure that anyone new who may be browsing will immediately dismiss the thread? Because that's the only possible "point" that I can see.


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Chris Evan

Nov 28, 2013 3:20 PM
Ok...thanks. And we are Noticing the Court Clerk and NOT the Prosecuting Attorney, is this correct?


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:23 PM
Send it the CLERK. And make sure each document also states that if the QUESTIONS are not answered, then it is you WISH/REQUIRE and DEMAND that this matter be DISCHARGED.


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Chris Evan

Nov 28, 2013 3:25 PM
Discharge To liberate or free; to terminate or extinguish. A discharge is the act or instrument by which a contract or agreement is ended. A mortgage is discharged if it has been carried out to the full extent originally contemplated or terminated prior to total execution. Discharge also means to release, as from legal confinement in prison or the military service, or from some legal obligation such as jury duty, or the payment of debts by a person who is bankrupt. The document that indicates that an individual has been legally released from the military service is called a discharge. The performance of a duty discharges it. An attorney may speak of discharging a legal obligation. as opposed to: dismiss v. the ruling by a judge that all or a portion (one or more of the causes of action) of the plaintiff's lawsuit is terminated (thrown out) at that point without further evidence or testimony. This judgment may be made before, during, or at the end of a trial, when the judge becomes convinced that the plaintiff has not and cannot prove his/her/its case. This can be based on the complaint not alleging a cause of action, a motion for summary judgment, plaintiff's opening statement of what will be proved, or some development in the evidence by either side which bars judgment for the plaintiff. The judge may dismiss on his own or upon motion by the defendant. The plaintiff may voluntarily dismiss a cause of action before or during trial if the case is settled, if it is not provable, or trial strategy dictates getting rid of a weak claim. A defendant may be "dismissed" from a lawsuit, meaning the suit is dropped against that party


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Chris Evan

Nov 28, 2013 3:26 PM
Out of curiosity, why wouldn't we send it to our adversary...the person bringing the charges?


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:28 PM
How about restricting the Grade-School BULLSHIT to personal chats? I was mistakenly under the impression that you all wanted to learn something. I am going over the steps from my case with you because I thought you were finally at levels of understanding that would allow you to grasp this. (Posting every back in July would have been like handing a loaded shotgun to a 2 year old.) Again, clearly mistaken.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:30 PM
You send it to the CLERK...the person in charge of the court file and the PUBLIC RECORD. Send a copy to the CROWN ATTORNEY as well, if you like. I had additional copies with me when I went to court. That way, if they tried to claim they had not received them, I could KINDLY provide them with one. (Aren't I nice? :D )


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:33 PM
I also submitted a notorazied, colour copies, (front and back) of my BIRTH CERTIFICATE with the first document and had extra copies when I went to court.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:34 PM
If you act in HONOUR the entire time, then the COURT is the only one creating CONTROVERSY.


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 3:34 PM
Rather than shouting about how one is a man... :p


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Chris Evan

Nov 28, 2013 3:35 PM
If he who makes the claim needs to prove it, what does one do when he claims he is a MAN???


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:35 PM
That's why ANY error, such as the COURT presuming that YOU are the PARTY with SURETY, you CLEARLY accept as being your fault and you ASK FORGIVENESS....because they HAVE to grant it. :D


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:36 PM
"If have led this COURT to believe that I am a PARTY with SURETY in this matter, then that would be a MISTAKE, and please FORGIVE me".


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:38 PM
It's not "THEIR fault" that you forgot to mention that you weren't the LEGAL PERSON, they're simply operating on presumptions. The burden of correcting that error lies on you. That's how you have to treat it.


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 3:39 PM
Staying out of court is the initial goal though...


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:40 PM
It is the CLERK's responsibility to enter all DOCUMENTS into the file. That's why you send it there.


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Chris Evan

Nov 28, 2013 3:41 PM
Yeah...but Eamonn, it seems like you and I are having trouble with that. :P


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 3:42 PM
Yet to be seen regarding my most recent encounter. I've still heard nothing. Near 2 months now...


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:43 PM
Yes. Now, I went to my first appearance, stated my status as the SOLE BENEFICIARY and that I wish to be solely addressed as KATHRYN. The JUSTICE did that, no arguement, which means he just ACQUIESCED and TACITLY AGREED that I am in FACT the SOLE BENEFICIARY. I then ordered the TRANSCRIPT and attached it as an EXHIBIT in each proceeding document as PROOF.


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 3:44 PM
If a summons happens to come through the door would the above steps be the correct procedure? NOM etc...?


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:45 PM
The JUSTICE attempted to enter a plea for me, three times, to which I responded "I DO NOT CONSENT." They'll try to trick you, just stand your ground. Do not consent, and NOTICE of MISTAKE. (Make sure you KEEP all your ORIGINAL notarized documents. Send them colour copies.)


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:47 PM
Correction, send everything to the PROSECUTOR's office. (Sorry guys, I'm rushing here)


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 3:49 PM
:D


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Nov 28, 2013 3:50 PM
Kate, this is great, just saying :)


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 3:51 PM
Yes, thanks Ceit Butler.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:51 PM
Nice photo example, Pete, but let's keep the meme's to a minimum on this one. :p


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 3:53 PM
No problem. Things are...strange... I wanted to get at least the bare-bone basics out there.


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Nov 28, 2013 3:54 PM
YOU all need to understand the power of an affidavit.


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 3:55 PM
An unrebutted one at that Lou


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Lou Manotti

Nov 28, 2013 3:56 PM
An unrebutted affidavit stands as a PUBLIC RECORD as TRUTH in LAW and COMMERCE.


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Nov 28, 2013 3:58 PM
Ceit Butler, where can I find the duty and responsibilities of a court clerk for Ontario? and thanks for the gold :)


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Robert Cormier

Nov 28, 2013 3:59 PM
Scott told me/us to study notaries.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 4:00 PM
It's right here David Vilaca, you have it ALL here... :/


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 4:00 PM
Ceit Butler: It is the CLERK's responsibility to enter all DOCUMENTS into the file.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 4:02 PM
Send them to both, CLERK and PROSECUTOR.


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David Vilaca

Nov 28, 2013 4:04 PM
Pete Daoust, its as good as it gets but I still like to read the club rules, it helps my brain digest who is bound and who is not bound.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 4:21 PM
As a BONUS, we have an object lesson! Eamonn O Brien, you just failed the SURETY TEST! :p "Please don't let one member's comments deter you from sharing Ceit. It's MUCH appreciated..." At NO point did I mention YOUR name, you just responded to "you" and accepted SURETY. ;) Try to get your mind into the habit of spotting that when it happens, and it will seve you well.


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 4:24 PM
That goes for Bobis, Chris, Aladdin and Robert also... How could you like my failure! :(


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 4:26 PM
When an admin posts a similar post to yours Ceit in which they are clearly frustrated with a member/members I tend not to assume surety as a liable party... I didn't want your posts to suddenly stop due to another's comments. Point taken though! Again, fair play tya ;)


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 4:29 PM
Hey man YOU said it... When I like something, it is an acknowledgement of reading... That is all. I actually sometimes even actually like what is being said. The point Eamonn is pay attention when addressed as you... Train Ourselves in a Knee jerk response " Are YOU addressing me?.." Listening for the subtleties of surety.... and rebutting that assumption promptly.


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Harold Austerman

Nov 28, 2013 4:33 PM
Is there a CUSIP # for Dean's arrest???


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Antony Mac Phiarais

Nov 28, 2013 5:17 PM
here in ireland the clerk wont take aff. for the file , " it has to be given to the judge on the day " so the manager of naas court says ,


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 5:38 PM
Send everything, notarized copies, by REGISTERED MAIL. No return address.


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Nov 28, 2013 5:47 PM
http://www.careerdirections.ie/ShowJobFull.aspx?job_id=551 Registered mail, proof of receipt.. I know it's only a FAS website Antonin but there ya go...


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Antony Mac Phiarais

Nov 28, 2013 5:49 PM
why thank you , but im well able to handle judges and courts , i was only adding to the tread ,


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Antony Mac Phiarais

Nov 28, 2013 5:50 PM
did you even read my comment properly ??


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 5:56 PM
Yes, you said the clerk won't take affidavits for the file. Then you quoted a court manager...


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Antony Mac Phiarais

Nov 28, 2013 5:57 PM
i didn't say it never made it to the file , this is for learning here yes ...


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 5:58 PM
I know you didn't say that, yes here is for learning...


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Antony Mac Phiarais

Nov 28, 2013 5:58 PM
maybe others will have that problem , anyways as Adim says Reg. mail .. so we have learned and people reading the tread will see what is best .. good one ..


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Eamonn O Brien

Nov 28, 2013 6:01 PM
Ok, good talk, see ya out there... :D


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Antony Mac Phiarais

Nov 28, 2013 6:02 PM
i know most the staff down the court house form been down there getting affidavits sworn out , now they took the clerks ability to swear out affidavits from him , but i can still get them done elsewhere , i was going into court with affidavits sworn from the same court ..


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Derek Moran

Nov 28, 2013 7:08 PM
It's a GOLD thread like this where i LONG for my old admin-capabilities to pare down-and-edit a great thread such as this...*long sigh* *goes to check notifications-feature* Hey, wait a second.....


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Derek Moran

Nov 28, 2013 8:01 PM
"[YOU] all need to understand the power of an affidavit." Does this have anything to do with THIS Maxim-of-law, Lou? Qui non negat fatetur. A person who does not deny admits. p.s. you saw what i did there, right? ;)


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 8:05 PM
What do maxims of law have to do with a private agreement? Where as, an affidavit is the document, instrument that creates the validity of the law set out in the exhibits; that only can be recognized under an affidavit. It is what creates understanding. It is the the Truth - Law of that particular ACT, of truth telling - law making.


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Nov 28, 2013 8:17 PM
Ahh fuck, ok- i guess i was DREAMING the other day then, when somebody on Scott's boat was pointing-out this very Maxim to me in regards to Affidavits- oh thats right, he said exactly - "He who does not deny, admits"...my bad, i guess i got the exact wording he used wrong, so everybody else is right and im wrong ..did i mention i was reminded of this Maxim on Scott's BOAT?


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 8:18 PM
One thinks the most benefit can be derived from ones own creation. Create an affidavit that is the truth of the matter. The laws of which benefit the author. It is taking your creation into their creation. Gaining recognition and settling the matter. According to the terms and conditions set out in proper notice- Exhibit A....


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 8:21 PM
Ok... So.. Maxims are important? I am thinking it is the only way to get things recognized in their courts but creating the circumstance to which it is heard. If there is more to it ... I am listening.


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 8:22 PM
I mean that maxim I hear loud and clear that is why proper notice is so important.


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 8:23 PM
But to recognize the notice their court requires it be attached to an affidavit as an exhibit. I am thinking about process and the impact and power of acting under an affidavit that legalizes the documentation created for that particular case.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 8:32 PM
HHAAAAAAAA......shut the fuck up Bobis or I'll ban you on the spot.... Oh, wait......wrong fucking group :/ Sorry Bobis...... :(


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 8:34 PM
There is no one to deny it is a trust. They are administrating their creation; the new name derived from the birth certificate to account for the new charges. Surety is created by the creator, create your own surety that benefits you. It cannot be denied, if proper notice is given. I am wanting to comprehend this fully. I am looking for feed back to discuss it... It is important. I do not want to miss the point.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 8:35 PM
I would really like to help you Bobis, but I have no clue what you're talking about :(


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Nov 28, 2013 8:39 PM
There are a NUMBER of spots in their OWN CLUBHOUSE RULES where they discuss/mention about the TRUST, because you KNOW that THEY will play dumb at some point and FEIGN IGNORANCE about what you are talking about...anybody who has ever dealt with the Government knows, this is what THEY DO BEST :D


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 8:39 PM
The ability to be recognized in their court without ever having to be in their court by proper administrative process when dealing with their accounting department: when presented with charges by their administrators.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 8:43 PM
...did I not just describe the "proper administrative process", step-by-step?


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 8:43 PM
YES !!! :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 8:44 PM
But it was freaking SIMPLE Ceit Butler, that may cause a problem :(


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 8:44 PM
Yes... excuse me, going to review.


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Derek Moran

Nov 28, 2013 8:51 PM
This just off Norah's page: "Norah Holloway Someone just got a call from Dean Clifford. He was brought before the Chief Justice Chartier first thing this morning! Dean dropped his two sentence A-bomb stopped them in their tracks! Thanks Christopher Sosnowski for the update."


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 8:52 PM
What does that mean ?? :/


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 8:54 PM
I was also addressing the why of the affidavit, Why its important to understand it. The truth of the matter. It establishes credibility. Also thinking about the relationship between the concepts and the said Maxim and the application of the affidavit itself.


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Derek Moran

Nov 28, 2013 8:55 PM
Knowing Dean, "his two sentence A-bomb" probably included: "I AM REQUIRED TO INFORM YOU THAT FORCED COMPLIANCE TO ORDERS BY YOURSELF, AND/OR YOUR AGENTS, IS IN FACT, ACCEPTANCE of my Terms and Conditions." Second sentence = "Fellas...you're gonna want that cowbell"


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 8:59 PM
If I recall good Bobis, it was mention that it's important to understand the POWER of an affidavit....THE POWER of it.....not it.....


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 9:01 PM
That is what I am pondering, the power of it...


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:01 PM
I KNOW the answer :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:02 PM
:P


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 9:02 PM
Uhh...so where was this "two sentence A-bomb" in the first place? If he can get himself out of this situation so easily. how is it he couldn't avoid getting INTO it?


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:03 PM
It's CODED Ceit Butler :(


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:03 PM
A SECRET :P


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:04 PM
For 3 easy py.....nevermind :/


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 9:04 PM
Because, as Lou ALSO just said early, the power lies in the fact that :" An unrebutted affidavit stands as a PUBLIC RECORD as TRUTH in LAW and COMMERCE."


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 9:04 PM
power n. the right, authority and ability to take some action or accomplish something, including demanding action, executing documents, contracting, taking title, transferring, exercising legal rights, and many other acts.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:05 PM
Fuck.....I could have SELL that Ceit Butler :(


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Derek Moran

Nov 28, 2013 9:07 PM
Here's a question, Norah...the lady that won the 2-hour consultation with Dean...any idea on what her problem was, and is she on facebook...methinks her reading this thread; and for greater certainty, the breakdown Ceit's provided, will probably help her out in the meantime while Dean is back in the KLINK


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 9:07 PM
And does this mean that Dean is out?


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:08 PM
Another secret for now :(


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:08 PM
But for 3 easy...... :D


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 9:09 PM
truth, noun: accuracy, actuality, authenticity, candor, conformity to fact, correctness, exactness, fact, honesty, integrity, precision, probity, realism, reality, right, sincerity, veracity, veritas, verity Associated concepts: credibility of a witness, reputation for truth, truth in lending laws Foreign phrases: Error fucatus nuda veritate in multis, est probabilior; et saepenumero rationibus vincit veriiatem error.Error artfully disguised is, in many instances, more probable than naked truth; and frequently error overwhelms truth by argumentation. Veritas nimium allercando amittitur. Truth is lost by too much altercation. Sacramentum habet in se tres comites,-veritatem, justitiam, et judicium; veritus habenda est in jurato; justitia et justicium in judice. An oath has in it three components,-truth, justice, and judgment; truth in the party swearing; justice and judgment in the judge addinistering the oath. Fictio cedit veritati. fictio juris non est ubi veritas. Fiction yields to truth. where truth is, ficcion of law does not exist. Qui non libere veritatem proounciat proditor est veritatis. He who does not freely speak the truth is a betrayer of the truth. Veritas, quae minime defensatur opprimitur; et qui non improbat, approbat. Truth which is not sufficiently defended is overrowered; and he who does not disapprove, approves. Veritas nihil veretur nisi abscondi. Truth fears nothing but concealment.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:09 PM
Fuck Bobis ??? :(


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 9:10 PM
... the last few lines...


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:11 PM
concealment n. fraudulent failure to reveal information which someone knows and is aware that in good faith he/she should communicate to another. Examples include failure to disclose defects in goods sold (the horse has been sick, the car has been in an accident), leaving out significant liabilities in a credit application, or omitting assets from a bankruptcy schedule to keep them from being available for distribution to creditors. Such concealment at minimum can be a cause for rescission (cancellation) of a contract by the misled party or a civil lawsuit for fraud. (See: fraud) :D


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 9:12 PM
Fiction yields to truth, the truth of the affidavit stops the fiction of their creation.


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Ceit Butler

Nov 28, 2013 9:13 PM
Silence is aquiescence. If the court does NOT rebut any of the facts stated in your affidavit, then they have TACITLY AGREED with them. If you DO end up in the courtroom, reading your Affidavit out loud gets it on the PUBLIC RECORD. State afterwards that "For the record, the COURT has tacitly agreed that I <insert previous statements>".


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:13 PM
The truth of an affidavit jams their fucking lies :P


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:17 PM
I will CREATE a nice AFFIDAVIT this week-end, and notarize a bunch of copies, and make them FLY all around :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:19 PM
The government just sent PIERRE DAOUST a form, for PIERRE DAOUST to go in their building to take a NEW picture of MY face......they think the last one looks like too much as Stalin, :(


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Derek Moran

Nov 28, 2013 9:19 PM
The City of Toronto already has a few Affidavits of mine, ESTOPPELS, too! ..nothing in them rebutted by them, ta'BOOT :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:20 PM
They want to put MY face on a PUBLIC thing :(


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Derek Moran

Nov 28, 2013 9:21 PM
Whose, yours...or French Elvis'?


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:21 PM
:D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:23 PM
But this shit gets me to THINK a lot, why would MY face would appear on a PERSON's piece of paper ?....


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 9:24 PM
here it comes...


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:24 PM
I can ONLY see: They want to know WHO is the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:24 PM
So I'll send them AFFIDAVITS, before I go and take that picture..... :D


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:26 PM
I AGREE to put my face on this, but for the ONLY purpose to identify the ADMINISTRATOR of that person


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:27 PM
It will WORK.....beautifuly :D


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Derek Moran

Nov 28, 2013 9:27 PM
OOH- regarding Affidavits, on Scott's boat it was made CLEAR.....ONLY, send, the court, PHOTOCOPIES WE keep the ORIGINAL...the court gets a PHOTOCOPY.....has to do with COPYHOLD, you dont want the court getting their hands on the ORIGINAL...the AUTHOR is the AUTHORITY...so handing over the ORIGINAL to the court is BAD - would you concur, [Ill]Lou Manotti?


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:27 PM
Unless, of course, they want to swear back to me an affidavit saying something else :/


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August le Blanc

Nov 28, 2013 9:29 PM
Not freedumb, autonomy.


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Lou Manotti

Nov 28, 2013 9:31 PM
only send THEM photocopies of your documents (certification unnecessary).You retain ALL original documentation.


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Pete Daoust

Nov 28, 2013 9:32 PM
:D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Nov 29, 2013 12:48 AM
Hey !!!....my group rocks :P


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Pete Daoust

Nov 29, 2013 12:51 AM
It's filled with semi-evolved chimps that spewing bullshit all over :D


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Chris Evan

Nov 29, 2013 12:52 AM
Where? I don't see it all over!


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Chris Evan

Nov 29, 2013 1:34 AM
Ceit, in the case that I signed incorrectly, I would think that getting a certified copy of the Recog and writing "New Original" at the top of it and writing "VOID" over the signature would work in lieu, yes?


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Steve Lemieux

Nov 29, 2013 4:27 AM
All HAIL MEGATRON!!


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Tom Davies

Nov 29, 2013 4:28 AM
What happened to Scott, people ???


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Pete Daoust

Nov 29, 2013 4:31 AM
Keep your greasy hands in you pocket Chris Evan :-P


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Pete Daoust

Nov 29, 2013 4:34 AM
Who's Scott, Tom ? :/


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Tom Davies

Nov 29, 2013 4:38 AM
OK...I see. Thanks.


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Tom Davies

Nov 29, 2013 5:14 AM
To any and all CIA, CSIS, and/or Police reading this...... FUCK YOU !


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Blake Gardner

Nov 29, 2013 8:04 AM
Pete Daoust - while your at it you may as well request your title (sole authorized administrator) be placed under the signature - I mean you got the affidavit if they're unwilling but they may oblige


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Pete Daoust

Nov 29, 2013 12:10 PM
Of course Blake Gardner, that's the core idea


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Blake Gardner

Nov 29, 2013 12:14 PM
Don't get your hopes up though:-)


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Pete Daoust

Nov 29, 2013 12:19 PM
I do and will see the results, whatever the results, I am happy :-)


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Pete Daoust

Nov 29, 2013 12:59 PM
I have it all planned ;-)


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Pete Daoust

Nov 29, 2013 1:00 PM
I am NOT an idiot :-D


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Derek Moran

Nov 30, 2013 5:30 AM
"GET AWAY from there...!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ2DIILfDPY


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Robert Cormier

Nov 30, 2013 6:26 AM
Rope lassoing the chattel/cattle.


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Robert Cormier

Nov 30, 2013 6:32 AM
My grandmother said...Give them enough ROPE and they'll hang themselves. :P Some PERSON might lose a house or a vessel.


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Steve Lemieux

Dec 01, 2013 1:02 AM
ALL HAIL MEGATRON!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 01, 2013 1:03 AM
HAHA!!!.....you have one heck of a huge vocabulary package :D


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Harold Austerman

Dec 01, 2013 5:00 PM
Have you seen this Man????? Helllloss! ;)


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Pete Daoust

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Harold Austerman

Dec 01, 2013 5:03 PM
Uncanny resemblance!


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Janick Paquette

Dec 02, 2013 2:35 AM
You don't look as much like Antonio in this one Pete! :P


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Lee Edgely

Dec 05, 2013 9:58 PM
Antonio Piercy You said " i know most the staff down the court house form been down there getting affidavits sworn out , now they took the clerks ability to swear out affidavits from him , but i can still get them done elsewhere , i was going into court with affidavits sworn from the same court" Is there a conflict with the Clerk and the Court or are they just being awkward?


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Antony Mac Phiarais

Dec 05, 2013 10:04 PM
must be .... im told most the clerks who were able to swear out aff. are not able to any more .... its very strange indeed


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Lee Edgely

Dec 05, 2013 10:50 PM
Is it only affidavits they will not lodge? How did you manage to get the affidavit into the file, other than being in court on the day?


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David Johansen

Dec 06, 2013 10:45 AM
"to take a NEW picture of MY face." counter offer for a million in gold! nay a trillion! maybe you can get some special affects makup and go as an alien!


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Pete Daoust

Dec 09, 2013 9:35 PM
Dean's website is under maintenance, and last news was a tennis game of some sort.....any news Norah Holloway ? :/


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Andrew D'Aragon

Dec 09, 2013 9:37 PM
It worked for me.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 09, 2013 9:38 PM
Me I get this: Website Under Maintenance Sorry for the inconvenience


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Andrew D'Aragon

Dec 09, 2013 9:40 PM
they changed the layout, but all the links work I havent tried to log in.


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Pete Daoust

Dec 09, 2013 9:42 PM
Will try......will get back...


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Pete Daoust

Dec 09, 2013 9:43 PM
I am in....sorry, the page really says : Website Under Maintenance Sorry for the inconvenience


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Pete Daoust

Dec 09, 2013 9:44 PM
But no news....


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Pete Daoust

Dec 09, 2013 10:07 PM
LOL :D


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Andrew D'Aragon

Dec 10, 2013 1:39 AM
http://whois.domaintools.com/178.236.0.58


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