Just keep asking if they are asking you to extend credit. If they answer "yes", then inform them there is an outstanding balance to be paid first. Make them owe you money. :P

Ah... once again simple. In the heat of the moment, one truly needs to have this ingrained. Old programming pops up Unexpectedly under duress. For me any way. Must cement the knowledge so it is a reflex, Like a Knee jerk " "Who are you to attach any name derived from a public document to me..." Agent :What's your name? Me: Why do you not have one? Public Notice... Is the basis of this. So not any one thing we learn here is important but the whole starting with an understanding of what Money Is, the ability to avoid surety and to account for it..the ability to apply knowledge and maintain life... and to BENEFIT from said knowledge..

You will get nowhere by looking for phrases to parrot to them. An armed thug is trying to shake you down because you are wearing "gang colours" (your name).

:)

Not wanting to be a parrot at all. Phrases were example's of possible answers to a thug with a gun... Truly seeking to think my way through this.. It solves nothing parroting... The gang colours analogy is perhaps the best I have heard so far.. It is not MY name... It was given to me.. by a trust established at birth by parents and Government.. So it is truly theirs... I have no rights to their creation until I stop them from benefitting via lien... then there is the Whole VALUE question. Which once one does this (Lien), the person assigned to us has no value other than what my labour of a lifetime is determined by accounting, at birth, so the Govt then can borrow against my lifetime ( collateral), creating more debt... Ah shit.... smoke is coming out of my ears as the sawdust burns away... Being a Director via A Private Trust insulates me from their offers... however the trust take no actions it is done through the administrator ( corporation) which is accountable to the sole shareholder, and is directed to issue currency to its shareholder thru the offices of Chief administrator. Is that a correct way of stating it? Of course Sole Authorized Administrator says a lot...

Of course questions negate understanding this has been covered many times... Fuck I hate bumbling.

I sent my Revocation of Consent to the Min. of National Revenue (Canada). She wrote back that she doesn't accept it. I wrote back saying it wasn't sent for you to accept or not - it's a statement of fact...like the law of gravity ...you stupid ho'....

Cop: Paper Please Me: Which one Cop: Dl, Insurance and Registration Me: I can show you the Insurance and Registration of this car, (Company Car), but unfortunatly, the DL is not WITH me :( Cop: you know I can give you a ticket since you don�t carry a DL with you ? Me: YES :D Cop: can you give me your name, address and blab la bla ? Me: I think you want the name of the person I should have in my pocket ? yes officer? :D I should follow up with the rest of the story at my next administration process regarding traffic ticket :/

I am also clearing freedom bullshit from my internal drive... It has been a source of confusion to me.

Your "freedumb" bullshit ? :/

When I first arrived here I had reviewed most of Dean Clifford's material... after having viewed other related material... Including but not limited to Menard in his garage writing on a stamp... Until Scott Duncan posted the Dean Kory article, I was having a difficult time grasping concepts cause of conflicting ideologies... I arrived here mis-informed on so many levels, it has taken me a while to grasp the differences... We are being shown how to Be a NOBLE ( commercial class ). The freedumbers are making claims against something ( Person) that is not theirs to begin with... it is a tricky, slippery slope with out the truth found here.. So no I am not a freedumber at this point... Just a guy who runs his own life... As President of the corp that administers the trust granted by me and the Gov't upon creation of the Trust, By A covenant... and The corporate charter which grants the President = the powers of a Charted accountant in the trustee corporation... So in essence it creates sanctuary... Not free but My will as Beneficiary is what matters in any situation that Me finds myself in. As Beneficiary... of my will which is communicated thru the charter...

As President of JAY LE B....What is JAY LE B... ? :/

I was having a difficult time grasping concepts cause of conflicting ideologies... Me, it was more a DEFECTING thoughts process issue :D (still there sometimes :( )

Jay Le B is taken name for now... I edited for accuracy. The numbered corporation is the trustee of me. I am the beneficiary of the trust.. Facebook won't let change it back as I have changed it to many times... :-P

I think the word is defective... :-D

So you are the PRESIDENT of a taken name ? :-o

The numbered copy is the trustee of me. I wouldn't do that :/ I am the beneficiary of the trust: What trust ? :/

Nope... taken Name is just that, taken... The person of the corporation administers to my benefit.. I am the president of the corp that administers to will of the sole beneficiary. (ME) acting as, president...

Oh my fucking god !!! :D

I created a trust to act in my stead in all affairs of me... February 27 of this year... via trustee corporation... I am not claiming to be Master at this point, I have bypassed that, simply because the NAME/Person/ ACCOUNTS created at birth are not mine...

I may posses them but they are not property that belongs to me.. I have been trusted to hold them.. and administrate for free... sounds wrong to me now..

The benefits of their creation has nothing to do with me.

Beneficiary An organization or a person for whom a trust is created and who thereby receives the benefits of the trust. One who inherits under a will. A person entitled to a beneficial interest or a right to profits, benefit, or advantage from a contract. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com

The will of the trust is dictated by the corporate charter... as well as the trust covenant created at its inception.

Nice stuff !! :D

Me, I just administrate shit... :(

Me too... through a third party... benefits without liability :-D

OK, explane me in details HOW you do it, let say you happen to pick up a fine in the person, you happen to have in your pocket, is mailbox.....show me how you do it :/

Instead of continuing to use their instrument in commerce... MASTER/MISTER... enabling them to still create debt.. To achieve autonomy one must create something to counter... of their OWN...

Ok... do you have your void stamp? :-D or you can administrate through liens and public notice... All property title is held by the trustee corporation... I administer trust property acting as president... If it is things like utilities and such one thinks you pay the bill, now the method of payment I think you are familiar with. :-D One would administer at arm's length so to speak..

I have NO payment methods.....only REMITTANCE methods......these are DEBTS this person is receiving... :/

Ok... so it is a way of settling the account right? You have administrated a number of remittances...as Master to date Correct? It would be the same thing just under a different title.. President or Vice president, Chief Financial Officer etc...

You as Master is still using their creation to your benefit... However if one makes a mistake in dealing with a clubhouse that has it's own governance, the consequences could be serious. I do not know the rules nor am I inclined to learn statutes, acts and laws... However to administrate I need a working knowledge.. The Trustee corporation assumes the liability, in dealing with the affairs of things that once examined and dissected do not concern me... If It is not my will... which is directed through the corporate charter... My own charter of rights and freedoms... that recognizes and respects other trusts to insure my recognition and respect acting As President.

as Master to date Correct?...as ADMINISTRATOR

You have repeatedly stated you are Master of ..... So in this case Master Administrator :-D

I am the Sole authorized administrator for PIERRE DAOUST. So far, I haven't USE the Master DUTY :D

It's about who benefits... I am making sure the right being Benefits from me... I do not like the benefit of jail, the benefit of taxes, the benefit of them tazering me, which is within their rights as administrator 's and trustee's of something created by strangers and has nothing to do with me the human being...

All titles do is act under laws ... " all the world is stage and we are merely players" Created by them, any title created by them is not mine. Creation is key... A trust once established creates it's own... the Importance of " whatever the fuck I say it is " comes to the forefront of ones mind... As long as I do not infringe upon others causing harm. I am free to conduct business as acting officer of the corporation that administers the Trust... The trust itself does nothing... it is a creation.

You take this shit too much dramatically Jay :P

So we see horrendous crimes perpetrated under the guise of commerce, I used to wonder how they got away with all the injustice... by using a corporation to take the hits... Officers are not personally liable acting under title... Unless they breach the trust.

I take it seriously ... the drama is preconditioned... breaking out of the mould takes work.. :-P

Seriously Definition a) Deeply interested or involved b) Being of such import as to cause anxiety I choose a) :P

Me too... however sometimes it goes the other way for me... :-\

And I choose "EASY" :D

Don't get me wrong, I may throw a laptop out the window every now and then, but what the heck, it's only a laptop !! :D

Once a being, gets past all of the bullshit of ones own thinking, yes... "If it is hard your doing it wrong" I find it hard sometimes and then figuring out where one went wrong.. well its a full time gig.. the ability to not repeat mistakes.... Cause if I keep repeating them then they are choices.. I wish it was easy,for me. I am not as smart as I think I am... but not as stupid either... The whole self esteem falsehood fucks with me. :-(

:'(

HAHAHAHA!!!! :D

No tissue needed just a harsh reality :-D

It would be a good start if you would stop calling yourself "one" :D

One negates liability...

It is supreme...

It is a defence against banishment... :-D

that being said I am honest in my learning process even if I can be a moron... :-D

Plus I truly mean no harm. It will be my downfall, If ones wits are not about...

I am honest in my learning process even if I can be a moron... I believe you ALMOST (50-50) :D

Is that your opinion? English expression " opinions are like assholes... everybody has one" :-D

Opinions ?...Am I even QUALIFIED for that ? :D

o�pin�ion (-pnyn) n. 1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: "The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion" (Elizabeth Drew). 2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion. 3. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts. 4. The prevailing view: public opinion. 5. Law A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the court.

You tell me... I am the only one with knowledge about me, for me, of me... My history... No one else is qualified to have an opinion of my business... Makes perfect sense to me.

I am the only one with knowledge about me: Are you sure ? :) No one else is qualified to have an opinion of my business: Mmmhhh ?? :D

Thats just it... others opinions do not matter to me in my business... It is just white noise :-D People may have knowledge of the person... but that is not me... People may have a opinion on whether or not services provided are of value, still not me... and opinions maybe used as reference based on their experience of the corporation in engage with... I am the judge of me. No one else, unless I engage in business and terms are agreed upon.

others opinions do not matter to me in my business.....that must be why you have NO business :D

Its private anyway... The business of living is enough. :-D

I have business to administrate...

Having no business with any person is sometimes preferable. :-D

You seems to have a squirrel up there that spins at speed of light buddy :D

You have no idea... :-D

I can't keep up with half of what you are saying :D

Lots of contradistions :D

hmmm... not clear?

How so?

Well, just this "The business of living is enough." think about it.... :D

And this.... :D Thats just it... others opinions do not matter to me in my business... It is just white noise People may have knowledge of the person... but that is not me... People may have a opinion on whether or not services provided are of value, still not me... and opinions maybe used as reference based on their experience of the corporation in engage with... I am the judge of me. No one else, unless I engage in business and terms are agreed upon. For shit sakes !!!!! :D....HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Now, put yourself in my shoes, the French Token, and try to imagine how in the fuck I can make something that makes sense with this !!! :D

I have and do... It is all semi-evolved chimp business. We have been quantified and inventoried... I had no business at the time it happened, now they try and make it my business... to which I say " My business is none of yours " So where are the contradictions? All of that stuff is not ME. Oh Kay point taken.. Trying to keep it simple.. :-D

We have been quantified and inventoried...The person, not me :P " My business is none of yours ": So How in the fuck you think "your" business will be PROFITABLE ? :D So where are the contradictions?: EVERYWHERE :D

Ok... the person created from the birth event and given to me to hold as trustee... is none of my business It is the item that was quantified and inventoried and It was forced upon me without whole disclosure = The business of living... Profitability is only a benefit to which I am not entitled to under their creative commons. I have insured they do not profit form the entity created at my so called birth ( lien). It is not my business anymore. I create tomato patches to profit :-D

the person created and my birth and given to me to hold as trustee: Where in the fuck have you read this ? :(

It was forced upon me without whole disclosure = The business of living... FORCES ??? :(

Fuck !!! :(

The birth certificate is evidence of that.. we are entrusted with it person / account plus the federal sin number to wrk at 14 = Minor It was handed to me, my ignorance then makes it seem forced now... It is presented like there is no other choice...

It is accounting and surety without whole disclosure. Agreeing to the fine print without reading what is being signed or if reading it ... it is in legalese which basically means they make up meanings to words to bamboozle and confuse.. It is very effective. Forced- poor choice of word... coerced perhaps?

I was born IGNORANT, and stayed that way for 45 years.....period :D

Now, at 47, I am a little bit LESS ignorant :P

So, lets start from here, today, let see if I can go to sleep tonight a little less ignorant !! ?? :D

BIG CHALLENGE !!!!! HAHAHAHA!!! :D

It is much better not being ignorant. It helps understand that knowledge is power. The power to set one free to engage/not engage in matters as one sees fit. I am almost 50... and I am feeling every year these days..

Fuck, I thought you were in your sixties :D

Bobis Youruncle is there any case law for using "Consent" that's locks you into a contractual Nexxus???

I am looking at definitions and how they apply. I don't study case law as I do not plan to go to their clubhouse. Consent is the key to the lock... ( notice of mistake effectively counters their presumptions) However to have consent one must be in agreement... They are tied together but the first post by Scott is clear and simple. I have learned to value that. I am looking at fundamental concepts these days as I think I am missing things.

One of the most empowering things I have learnt that If a Private trust has a covenant and the trustee corporation has a charter. Those are the laws that apply... essentially you have your own court... Just like theirs except it is for the exclusive benefit of the sole Beneficiary. The terms and conditions of commerce are with the trustee corporation, through its chartered mandate, that administers the affairs for the benefit of the sole shareholder and the benefit of the sole beneficiary of the Trust.. a Trust itself doesn't act it is A TRUST.. Private makes it a law maker unto itself.. through by-laws, which the current courts use on land (which is the only place commerce exists. ) based in Admiralty Law... So a trust in reality is its own admiralty so to speak. Terms and conditions = laws

I wonder if that's what John D Rockafellar meant by,Own Nothing-Control Everything?

From all appearances yes... it is a simple statement with the ring of truth.. We cannot really own anything anyhow.. all titles are granted by the state... Unless you create one. using the same methods.

MISTER D. Rockafellar must have been a very good Administrator ! :D

I still think of Conrad Black and the fact that he needed to renounce his citizenship in Canada to be Given a Title (Knight Of something) from the crown... which looks like the queen, who in fact, just implements her duties according to charter... of which she has no control or say as a beneficiary of the state. The gilded cage.

going to cook a lamb ... ttyl

Cook a lamb ? :-o

no metaphors or analogies... just dinner.

You have no MULES to do that for you ? :(

I like to cook, I am really good at it... I have a tendency to feed the mules to make them happy... It is a great way to earn trust. :-D

Up to you !! :D

Me, I like it better when Jose do it, he is a freaking qualified cook :D

I think we will meet one day. It would be good to discuss things over a great meal. I am qualified as well... school of hard knocks :-D

Meet? Great Meal???

Possibly... food is good and I will be traveling ...

Jay, do you live in Toronto?

Is this not a custom to break bread... it is very hard to make an enemy out of someone a meal is shared with... In Naval tradition breaking bread... ( no one cuts bread at sea) is a time honoured tradition. It is a big deal... Everyones gotta eat. :-D

Nope... out west by the rockies.