The Tender For Law

Volume 4

Oct 30, 2013 12:30 PM

David Vilaca

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LiveLeak.com - Police officer shot dead after pointing stun gun at man's dogs as he attended...

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A police officer killed while responding to a domestic disturbance in a small eastern Pennsylvania borough had pointed a stun gun at two dogs before being shot, court records reveal. Freemansburg

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Pete Daoust

If you get to harm others with a baseball bat, because you think you can do it, at one point it would be stupid to think that you won't get hit one day, by a baseball bat ! :/

I have seen this......often, !! :(

Pete Daoust

Daniel, Denis, Patrick, R�mi, Sylvain, Richard, Jacques,

These are the few names that comes to mind, They all thought they could do that !! :(

3 of them are dead in a violent way, and 3 are in jail, Daniel is hiding somewhere :(

So keep going dear cops, keep HARMING others, it's up to YOU to decide...

Pete Daoust

Yep....I am having a hard time when a MAN wearing a uniform put a gun on my forehead because he thinks he has the RIGHT to do it. Even when I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG, except telling him to fuck off with his bullshit :P

Pete Daoust

That's what happen when you question those who BELIEVES having authority OVER you......they kick, slap, punch and threat you with death.....and I haven't read it in a newspaper, I was FRONT line and EXPERIMENTED it :P

Katt Watson

I just want to be extremely clear on what's being obviously advocated and actually celebrated here. I'm presuming that everyone is in possession of "all" the facts, how could they not be based on a media evidence that couldn't possibly be biased, in any way at all. Definitely not.

Not to mention this happened over two years ago and no one here has taken any time to mention that the real stand up guy who blasted Robert Lasso in the face, Mr George Hitcho Jr, was dangerously unpredictable with previous records of violence and causing harm to others (just to be very clear, other people who were not police officers). On the day in question, Mr Hitcho Jr had threatened another man verbally and had then chased him with a plank of wood. Guess the other guy should have exercised his right to shoot that crazy fucker in the face. Guess he didn't know his rights!

I just want to be absolutely certain that it's totally OK to blast someone in the face with a shotgun if I don't like what they're doing. Does it matter if they'e not a Cop? Or is killing reserved for them especially? How do we feel about Firemen or Paramedics?

"You're trying to get me out of a burning building but I want to save whatever is in my fridge... nah, fuck you. Shotgun to the face.

While observing my right not to wear a seatbelt, someone else slams into me and I'm having a super time with this steering wheel compressing my broken ribs into my lungs, so much fun that I don't want you to move me. Hey.. stop.. what are you, nah. Fuck that. Take a shot to the face you interfering fuck.

Seriously... someone reported me for a domestic disturbance? That old piece of shit down the road doesn't like me teaching my bitch what's right? He's such a pussy he can't come here and say it to my face? He's pissing his pants because he knows I can fuck him up once these shit for brains Cops have gone, maybe I'll set the dogs on him next time he's out on the street with that fuckstupid walking frame of his. Sticking his nose in where it's not wanted and HEY. WHAT THE FUCK OFFICER. You threatening my dogs with a Taser? Nah, fuck you. Shotgun to the face."

Is it OK to kill someone if they're not in any uniformed profession? What if I just don't like them and can I use a Chainsaw instead of a gun. What other weaponry is it acceptable to preserve my freedom with? Are we all agreed that it's even more acceptable to fight for freedom while we're on drugs so that we can make the best and most clearly informed decisions possible? That's fine? Awesome!

Let's all celebrate a complete lack of self control and advocate fatal violence! Whoo! Let's all keep dogs that we can't control so we can use that as excuse to blow someone in uniform away because that's the freedom we're happy to kill for and ain't that the truth.

Amen.

John Gessas

one goof dead compared to the countless innocents these fucksticks hurt every day! Its way overdue and I hope it happens every time some goof policy enforcer threatens anyone with harm! I totally agree with the dogs owner! free him! he is a hero!

Pete Daoust

It's like famine, I really never had to deal with it, I was lucky being born in the right geographic spot........but I won't say a word about it to this guy, who will get eaten ALIVE by these big birds, he KNOWS famine, I have NO CLUE about it....

Ho, but wait, maybe that's NOT TRUE, maybe that dosen't exist, kids dying from famine :/

http://www.pulitzer.org/files/highlights/1994.jpg

John Gessas

I rolled my eyes at the part where he had a family and those poor kids will have to grow up alone! not to be an insensitive sack of shit like they are but don`t the souls they kill and taser and hurt and jail have families? I have seen more damage caused by the system to not only myself but countless friends and family! My favorite phrase when dealing with them has become" FUCK OFF" ! I'm sure it means the same in legalese !

Katt Watson

Pete Daoust - you assume incorrectly, I'm seeing a lot of that at the moment. In my line of work I deal with the UK Police on an almost daily basis so if you'd like to take a minute or two to reassess your position - you're welcome to it.

I work with rough sleepers, the homeless, people who have substance and/or alcohol abuse issues, people who have mental health issues, prolific offenders, ex-offenders, sex offenders and a wider range of those who spend a lot of their time being the subjects of Police scrutiny and victims of the System. We stand up for their rights and educate so that people can stand up for themselves. I have seen members of the Police force go above and beyond their "job" to help people just as I have seen members of the Police force abuse their position to cause harm.

So. Yes. I do have a lot of experience with the Police. Both good and bad.

And, before anyone decides to blast my high horse in the face with a Shotgun, I'm arguing for the preservation of human life. Whether it wears a uniform or not. Whatever someone does to a Cop, they could do to you if you stood up to try to help someone in need. If one of you stepped in to stop someone robbing an old guy or to stop a group of teenagers kicking someone to the Kerb and you got shot for it there would be an entirely different reaction here.

There are bad Cops, there are good Cops just as there are people who do bad things and people who do good things. A shotgun blast to the face is not the solution I'd choose to recommend to people for the majority of situations.

Use your indoor words first. OK?

Nathan Morris

Police need to learn how to NOT BREAK THE LAW. After all, who are you going to call when the Law Enforcement breaks the law and commits a crime against you? You can't call the police because they are already there - they are the ones doing the law breaking.

Pete Daoust

There are bad Cops, there are good Cops just as there are people who do bad things and people who do good things.

Well, it should NOT be that way, COPS should be GOOD Man, always, and at 100%.....think about it, they should be SCREENED as well as DOCTORS are screened...IMAGINE needing an BRAIN surgery, and I tell you, well, there is BAD doctors and GOOD doctors......so good luck, what would you say to me ? :/

These cops plays with guns, these doctors play with scalpels.....to me, it's the same.....you can stick with your way of thinking, it's your right, I am NOT trying to make you change your mind, I am just saying: Just think about it for 1 minute :(

Pete Daoust

I have seen members of the Police force go above and beyond their "job" to help people

THAT IS JUST NORMAL....nothing special in this, this is the WAY it should be......a good cop is NORMAL, nothing is suppose to be SPECIAL in this ?

Think about it ! :(

Nathan Morris

> "IMAGINE needing an BRAIN surgery, and I tell you, well, there is BAD doctors and GOOD doctors......so good luck, what would you say to me ?"

Excellent point!!! And most of the time we get to pick and choose our doctor, but not our police.

Pete Daoust

And most of the time we get to pick and choose our doctor, but not our police.

NOT TRUE....sorry Nathan Morris, Some supposely PUBLIC SERVANT have the full responsibility to PICK these cops.....and it's THEIR job to PICK the RIGHT MAN to do that specific DUTY :)

Katt Watson

Pete Daoust - Screening? H'mm... Who watches the watchmen?

I would say this to you.

Cops today are screened but who by? The Corporation that pays them and that Corporation does NOT hold the people's freedom as a priority. If the people, you and I, were to screen cops what would we look for, how would you screen a Cop? How are you more qualified to screen a Cop for your area than I am. Can you prove it or does someone have to screen you first?

Screened like Doctors? No Sir, definitely not screened like Doctors. I've lost two people I love because they were misdiagnosed by incompetent medical "professionals". There is no more perfection in the medical screening process than there is for law enforcement. Why? Talk to Big Pharma about that and don't forget to mention Profit.

As long as humanity itself - every man, woman and child within it holds the capacity to do bad things, there will be Cops and Police who do bad things.

If you remove the Law Enforcement agency and every official within it completely and replace it with a democratised Peace Keeping agency - there will still be bad Peace Officers and good Peace Officers because they are human beings, just as we are. Oh, and everyone in the world will need a gun to make sure that no one individual, whether Peace Officer or not, can ever threaten another without fear of being shot in the face.

And there you have it. Fear.

Fuck that for a group of peace loving soldiers. That is what our entire Justice and Law system is based on. Fear. Fear of punishment, fear of facing violence for standing up for your rights, fear of facing violence from trying to stop people having rights, fear of not even knowing your rights and living in a world where other people can abuse, harm and shoot for not knowing them and fear that you will be shot in the face for trying to protect others whose rights are being threatened.

If you start putting an end to that fear by educating everyone and treating everyone equally then you might just have a solution that will work and a solution that doesn't need a gun to prove itself right.

Scott Duncan

Fun Fact: Educating everyone, and treating everyone equally DOESN'T WORK. It never has, and it never will.

The ugly reality is that everyone is NOT equal. This becomes VERY apparent when everyone is treated equal.

...ask Leon Trotsky

Katt Watson

"Life is not an easy matter... You cannot live through it without falling into frustration and cynicism unless you have before you a great idea which raises you above personal misery, above weakness, above all kinds of perfidy and baseness." ~ Leon Trotsky.

At what point in our reality, in our history, in our existence has there been true equality and proper education? Leon Trotsky's entire life was a struggle through war and inequality in his homeland and throughout the rest of the supposedly civilised world until his assassination in 1940. He fought for ideals with words and without the luxury of an instantaneous global platform.

If equality for everyone has previously been an impossibility there is nothing to say it shall continue to be so. It is my hope for the future that equality and education can be achieved but I am not under the illusion that it will be an easy thing to accomplish or that we will experience an entirely peaceful revolution without bloodshed to reach it.

But in saying that and also, in adamantly expressing my pacifist tendencies, I am advocating educating people to stand up for their rights by being armed with knowledge, the truth, information and persuasion. Not. With. Guns.

If you take a school playground as an example, there's an interesting social observation to be made.

Kids make friends with a bully because the arguments in a playground can be easily solved with a punch to the face or peace can be tentatively held with the mere threat of violence. That playground bully, for a price, can provide you with security.

We're still paying that price as adults, in our desire to be safe we created a bully with a taste for power and when that bully grew up, he got a job. Where's he employed now? Where are "they" employed now? Oh, our entire Government? Well, shit.

What about the kid who could talk his way out of a situation? Clever kid, that one. Could go far. Not quite as effective as the Bully in the Playground but he had his own way of keeping the peace.

Some of those clever kids are in the Government too, some of them are Politicians. And some of them are posting in this group and helping other to understand the current situation of enforced servitude.

Both of those childhood stereotypes grew up, as did we, but some of us aren't being lead by words and the truth. Some of us are still cheering on the kid who was, and still is, quick to resort to violence because they're too scared to stand up for themselves with any other means.

You don't need a gun to use the internet. If you're using one to type, you need to redo your firearm training. There's a multitude of ways to educate people without violence and there's certainly a possibility for a future where people are equal, educated and without the need to resort to violence.

Cole Parker

thats fucking bullshit k im not freinds with cops or anything in fact iv had my problems with them but not all of them are out to get people some are just doing there job and get shot for it and killed theres right and theres wrong and this is clearly wrong the guy who shot the cop should be hung by his nuts and if i were the cop fuck the stungun i would pull a real gun out and blow a hole in tht fucking dog if it was gonna bite me

Scott Duncan

Then what you advocate is for the first wave of people who will be rounded up.

There is no "Standing up" without violence. History/REALITY has proven this to be the case COUNTLESS times.

All you advocate is rationalization for being a martyr... or just painfully naive, and will likely end up being a cautionary tale for the next pacifist that thinks they live in reality.

Cole Parker

i dont kno law talk like u guys im just a 17 year old boy tht dosent like cops bc of being a kid and getting in trouble on dirtbike and other things but i kno right from wrong and i read this and it pisses me off tht people think its all right the guy shot the cop for going to stun gun some dogs which is not and i woulda done the same if i were the cop and knew the history of the guy that i was going to deal with there and no grey area in this is black and white there is no way at all to diffrent the guy who shot tht cop

Derek Moran

"He was assassinated on Stalin's orders in Mexico, by Ram�n Mercader, a Spanish-born Soviet agent in August 1940.[2] (Most of his family members were also killed in separate attacks.)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky

Nathan Morris

Cole, you are a violent and dangerous man: "if i were the cop fuck the stungun i would pull a real gun out and blow a hole in tht fucking dog if it was gonna bite me"

Here is your future, shooting dogs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw60xpDbpns

Cole Parker

fuck u buddy is people have dogs tht are dangerous dogs then its there fault for doing something wrong for cops to come and in this case the cop obvisly had a resion to be there i love dogs i have alot of dogs of my own but if i was worried about them getting shot i would kill a cop over it i would go get my fucking dog and put it away so i could deal with the situaiton like a man

Nathan Morris

Cole, you didn't watch the video. The man did put his dog away but it got loose. Cops are just normal people with no badges when they are in the shower. No different than you or me or anyone. It's the "fucking badge" that makes them go ape-shit power hungry killers.

Cole Parker

yeah but what im saying is tht iv delt with cops tht are power freaks but there are some iv met tht are very resionable and are doing there job i have a cousin tht is a cop and he can be resionable and has family to support with his job

Scott Duncan

So you think that because you wear a costume and carry a gun, you can trespass, and threaten people?

Obviously had a reason? BASED ON WHAT? The Police report in your ass?

Here in reality, they are municipally hired thugs with guns, nothing else. They have no "special rights" and your slave mentality is set in nicely.

You are also too stupid for my venue.

...you really need to be going now.

Scott Duncan

Why do people think views counter to mine are wanted here? That's not what this group is for.

Katt Watson presents an opposing view in a well thought out (albeit, stupidly naive)manner. She supported her positioning with her reasoning (which is why I can dismiss it so easily) and states WHY she holds this position. That is worth discussing.

Cole's position can be dismissed for its content. Just a shit stain that needs to be cleaned up.

Compare the two.

Derek Moran

I talked to a Municipal By-Law officer with the City of Toronto, who actually seemed decent, he didnt try to bullshit me at ALL. I said to him- "Compared to these other City of Toronto-lackeys, you actually seem to know something about 'the law'"....."Thats because this is my 'second-career;' i used to be a police-officer, im retired now, and im getting set to retire for good...im going to move i think to Barbados"

I asked him- why?...his response: "I have to move out of Canada...its getting too oppressive, theres just waaay too many laws here" - LMAO, i just about damm near fell out of my chair

Stuart Stone

Scott tosses up a perfect home run opportunity, I play straight man & you let that one slip through to the catcher...c'mon Derek Moran, you've done standup, you just can't pass up an absolute gimme from the straight man :D

Stuart Stone

oooh now Scott takes the curve ball tossed up by Derek Moran & hits it out of the park...courtesy of Tim Minchin & the combined insults of several theists that used to walk the halls of TFLG...

and I thought intelligent humour died with George Carlin & Bill Hicks...thankfully I was wrong

Pete Daoust

Just to make sure we are on the same page with the word ACCIDENT :D

Accident

The word accident is derived from the Latin verb accidere, signifying "fall upon, befall, happen, chance." In its most commonly accepted meaning, or in its ordinary or popular sense, the word may be defined as meaning: some sudden and unexpected event taking place without expectation, upon the instant, rather than something that continues, progresses or develops; something happening by chance; something unforeseen, unexpected, unusual, extraordinary, or phenomenal, taking place not according to the usual course of things or events, out of the range of ordinary calculations; that which exists or occurs abnormally, or an uncommon occurrence. The word may be employed as denoting a calamity, casualty, catastrophe, disaster, an undesirable or unfortunate happening; any unexpected personal injury resulting from any unlooked for mishap or occurrence; any unpleasant or unfortunate occurrence that causes injury, loss, suffering, or death; some untoward occurrence aside from the usual course of events. An event that takes place without one's foresight or expectation; an undesigned, sudden, and unexpected event.

David Vilaca

THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT. �Every Cause has its Effect; every Effect has its Cause; everything happens according to Law; Chance is but a name for Law not recognized; there are many planes of causation, but nothing escapes the Law.��The Kybalion.

Pete Daoust

I am in a process of writing a nice letter concerning PIERRE DAOUST's revenu DECLARATION for 2013 to QRA. I am ASKING them what would be the amount they see fit, according to PIERRE DAOUST is situation. Apparently, they have a powerful software that gives the RIGHT numbers, and they will use it AGAINST PIERRE DAOUST anyway :D, so I'll save them time and effort :D

I am a NICE guy :D

Or, I'll just go ahead and declare a 600 billions revenue for PIERRE DAOUST, just to make sure I don't make an under estimate.....but that would be a lie though :(

And I hate lying :(

Derek Moran

LOL- Pierre, EXACTLY...my dad goes out every year to buy the new-fuckin' TURBOTAX-CHARGE, or whatever its called to do HIS *wink* taxes, when they got a fucking-supercomputer that was probably designed by Scott to begin with that can spit the shit out that you supposedly owe to them out in less than a MILLISECOND!

Pete Daoust

I sign like this

BY:______________________ Sole Authorized Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST 2XX-XXX-XXX

And if another PERSON is not happy with it, just send me a NOTICE about it, I'll administrate that NOTICE.....no problem :P

Pete Daoust

I picked up, in PIERRE DAOUST's mailbox, a Bill of Exchange with a debt attached to it back in july, from QRA :D, that debt was $1900.00 :D

I asked QRA for ALL the payment method available to clear that debt

Sign:

BY:______________________ Sole Authorized Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST 2XX-XXX-XXX

They did not answer :(

So I sent another one, they did not answer :(

So I discharged that debt this past October the 21st, using PIERRE DAOUST's surety.

I am waiting for the confusion/controversy part as we speak, I gave them 30 days to REFUSE the payment method used.....I will post the whole story here, well, if the story is longer than what I've just said :/

BY:______________________ Sole Authorized Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST 2XX-XXX-XXX ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

:D

Pete Daoust

You see Derek Moran, I wish I could have likes from non-participant in here, so I could KNOW who works for CRA in here....that was the goal, but since I had to EXPLAINE that to you, now the GOAL won't work :/

HELLOSSS!!! :D

Pete Daoust

Anyway, here is the Notice....

I NOTICE them that I have been attacked by QRA some three years ago, and for the first time in my whole life, I really felt defenseless, at 44 I, for the first time ever, felt like I could NOT defend myself, so I've got a little pissed off....

So, Since January 2010, I spent AT LEAST, 3 hours a day to educate "ME", against that kind of attack....to make sure I won't have this weird feeling again in my life....

So, from some information received recently, I have good reasons to BELIEVE that, for Quebec Person's, FEDERAL income taxes is voluntered since 1968.....but since I don't automaticaly BELIEVE everything I hear and/or read, I am ASKING you, CRA, if it's TRUE or NOT TRUE....

So, before I go and ADMINISTRATE this BoE you've sent to the person I happen to have in my pocket, I will NEED to get an answer from YOU on this matter, you must be the BEST source of information for it.

You have 30 days to send me a CLEAR answer, if you don't answer, I will have to go with what I HAVE LEARNED.

BY:______________________ Sole Authorized Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST 2XX-XXX-XXX ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

:P