Scott what is it you say about money?...'you only need it when you want to spend it'? I'd love to hear others comprehension of this statement :)
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August le Blanc
Money of Account or Money of Exchange?
Pete Daoust
Well, when you are ready to spend it, you pull it out, and you spend these suckers :D
Gail Marie
I think one of the points of the statement, relates to saving or hoarding money...and the negative impact it has?
Gail Marie
Im thinking money of account Jay...money of exchange is limited and hard to come by lol
August le Blanc
Money of Account is definitely more versatile and can be created thru the B O E process...
The currency defines the jurisdiction..
Gail Marie
I've been thinking about this, Scott Duncan has mentioned it a few times. He has also said his corp can get unlimited credit. What is interesting is that credit for the legal name is a bad thing (which I think because its creating more debt, but having liened the legal name and getting credit based on that is that actually decreasing the debt?
Scott Duncan
Wow, you are just not capable of ANY thought that isn't supervised.
MONEY OF ACCOUNT, can only buy MORE MONEY OF ACCOUNT. Why would you want to spend that?
Personally I prefer to EAT.
August le Blanc
Yes but then you convert it to money of exchange when you need it correct?
Gail Marie
I'm thinking outloud...not looking for supervision but welcome input :)
Scott Duncan
How? Does the money-of-exchange fairy flutter down and "bless" it?
Pete Daoust
And where do you keep this money of account ???.....in transit ?? :D
August le Blanc
Corporate Bank card... from digital currency..
August le Blanc
Ok so what then?
Scott Duncan
So hit the books and start learning what money is, and why, what YOU described is HARD CORE ILLEGAL. :P
August le Blanc
Well I thought I had it...
Fuck...
Chip Douglas
Is it ok to purchase things with Money-of-Account by way of Set-Off?
Chris Evan
hmmmm....Money of Account converted to Money of Exchange. Seems like a bank or corporation would be needed to make this conversion
August le Blanc
My bank accounts are in digital canadian dollars..
A currency, Credits were created from the bill of exchange ... contract, invoice.. cheque, deposited in account.. withdrawal with bank card...
Scott Duncan
You need to read a few more of my articles. You aren't even close :P
Scott Duncan
Banks do ONE THING ONLY: Act as a currency exchange.
August le Blanc
Fuck.. I remember talking about this...
back to the drawing board...
its in my notes somewhere...
Pete Daoust
My bank accounts are in digital canadian dollars..
You can't have bank accounts
Pete Daoust
The corp should accept it's own currency as payment method, when the corp receives Canadian currency, the corp EXCHANGES it in the currency the corp wants to work with, and then, when you are READY to spend MONEY, you exchange it in whatever the currency you need at that specific TIME....
Something like that :D
Chris Evan
Can't the corp leverage the MoA held in Trust for "working capital", or MoE?
August le Blanc
Cool, so the corp can do the same.
We generate revenue...
and thru a promise to pay are granted credit.
when we spend actual physical dollars or whatever choice of particular currency, it is debt of those dollars...
All money is debt, question becomes who is surety and how is it accounted for.. so ones own or bit coin currency is advantageous but to convert that you need a medium which is the corp
We need Money of exchange, which is spendable.
fuck my melons going to explode again ...
Learned this once already fuck.
August le Blanc
So to do business with the trust the corp accepts money of exchange and issues its currency according to that days rate...
August le Blanc
and buys groceries and a boat...
Scott Duncan
This would be the part where you find you have no value.
Gail Marie
I figured that out a while back :/
August le Blanc
Yes the value part..
Scott Duncan
You can create all the credit uou wish, but there is NO party ENDORSING it, and NO TRUSTEE executing the exchanges.
THOSE are what determines your VALUE
Scott Duncan
The value part is easy: You have none.
August le Blanc
Hahahahaha
August le Blanc
Scott Duncan did a thing a while ago
average income per year 40k X 65
Times 65 years productivity = 2.6 million...
could that be considered a hypothetical average legal persons's value? Is this a correct approach?
Gail Marie
who is YOU?
August le Blanc
A trustee corporation endorsed by corporate seal does not that meet the requirements?
Gail Marie
you = legal person....so the corp is the trustee that executes the exchanges ? and trust endorses it?
Chris Evan
Scott mentioned before how his marriage was recognized. Anyone remember specifically?
Chris Evan
I think that matters here
August le Blanc
See...
This is where I get messed up, valueless in confusion.
I know that to put a capital figure on a lien, a value needs to be established
One needs to to a skills assessment an Inventory.
In my case I go thru all of that and come up with a figure, but as I am explaining this to the Admiral on the phone a while back...
I get the Klaxon of wrong....
So I reevaluate everything once again and have reached this exact point once before.
I have some actions to take, I will have that nailed in a bit. I am still pondering. I think about everything.
I do need some value ...
The skill set and wisdom sheesh... who can put a price on that...
I'll tell ya who, accountants :-D
Events are happening.
Value is important but fucking how does one establish it... or is this the wrong direction?
Jeff Roggers
you've just remove the surety off the man/woman people that's all you've done
August le Blanc
I am fried G night.
Gail Marie
night Jay Le B thanks for your input
Blake Gardner
2 signatures and willing trustee...sounds like offer, acceptance and enforcement of contract:-)
Robert Cormier
Gail = why are we subjected to need A TENDER FOR LAW to live and PAY "BILLS"?
Robert Cormier
^^ Guessing and trying hard
Robert Cormier
some are so "RICH' (in knowledge) they don't need "money" to get on with their lives. They can LAWFULLY create their own commercial answers (read CURRENCY). <---educated guess
Robert Cormier
I don't know what he is omitting, but, I know he doesn't lie (when he speaks): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzHsIRpl8IE
Robert Cormier
RE: REMITTANCE addressed to ROBERT E. CORMIER (account # 481770 � 001) by WATERLOO NORTH HYDRO INCORPORATED through CANADA POST.
To whom it may concern:
I have come to learn that the number 96, which is prominently printed on the bottom right hand corner of the REMMITTANCE you sent, identifies consumable goods and services, and, that it is an EXCHANGE CODE for CANADIAN BANKING NEWORKS. It is provided to identify consumable goods and services.
Additionally, I have also come to learn that the CANADIAN PAYMENT ASSOCIATION is the body which governs Rules Pertaining to the Inter-financial Institution Exchange and Settlement of Bill Payment Remittances.
On page 18 of the CANADIAN PAYMENT ASSOCIATION document entitled:
H6
RULES PERTAINING TO THE INTER FINANCIAL INSTITUTION EXCHANGE OF BILL PAYMENT REMITTANCES FOR THE PURPOSE OF CLEARING AND SETTLEMENT, which is identified as being BASED ON ASC X12 VERSION RELEASE 003030, section 2.0, 2.1, and, 2.2, reads in part, as follows:
2.0 SPECIFICATIONS FOR INTERCHANGE OF PAPER-BASED REMITTANCES
2.1 INTRODUCTION
This section describes the specifications for the application of CPA Standard 006: "Standards and
Specifications for MICR Encoded Documents", to paper-based Remittances. As such, it should be read in conjunction with CPA Standard 006. The following additions/exceptions shall be
followed:
2.2 MICR ENCODING ON REMITTANCES
Detailed diagrams of the placement of information to appear in the MICR reserved area appear in
Appendices I and II of Part II of this Rule. All specifications contained in CPA Standard 006
remain applicable; however layout changes are as follows:
(a) Amount Field: Character positions 11-2 inclusive shall be reserved for the Remittance Amount.
(b) On-Us Field: �
Pete Daoust
Scott Duncan says I have NO value, but the corp is NOT liening me !..the corp is liening the person, and I am the ONLY one that can give value to that person.....give value, but I have no value....mm.hhhhh
Pete Daoust
Projected value ?....like the stock exchange ? :-D
August le Blanc
Man = No value... legal person =no value.
( accounts which currency pass thru SIN... BC)
All money is DEBT.
The corp can create its own currency.
We have no Value. PERIOD.
So what the fuck?
Jeff Roggers
now do you want to create your own crypto currency and become valuable
Jeff Roggers
are at least at the opening gate of one?
August le Blanc
I would but I fucking suck at algorithms and code... ffs
Jeff Roggers
then learn what Scott is teaching to set up for it
August le Blanc
Fuck off, for fuck sakes what the fuck do you think I am fucking doing here?
August le Blanc
fuck thats just a stupid fucking answer.. obvious for fuck arrrrrgh....
Pete Daoust
Robert Cormier, you are complicating stuff buddy.....just send a request to this Hydro company ASKING if there is any OTHER method for ROBERT CORMIER to discharge that debt they are send to ROBERT CORMIER
THAT'S IT.......it works, I have done it....a 1 page letter, with a simple question.....and tell them that you ABSOLUTLY need an answer from them
Jeff Roggers
sorry
August le Blanc
So ... then What did Jeffsbee actually mean?
Jeff Roggers
we need to get setup for the coin mining of the second type of currency coming out
Jeff Roggers
also I was thinking about that ticket you receive the other night why isn't the other guy suing for infringement of the use of his name on a document?
August le Blanc
Yes , that makes sense, I have not heard that from the Admiral. I have heard him talk about bit coin and its advantages. He has mentioned the Crypto currency that is not a test and still being worked on. I have read TT4L, mostly.
That is Private matter for now... and its a simple fucking void. No contract.
Robert Cormier
Pete Daoust - Do you send it by registered mail to make it "official", or do you send it by regular mail?
August le Blanc
See now I don't need to take it to the system....
I am isolated in admiralty law.
This thread is about what we think money is and the resulting development of Value, which at this point is worthless. So I know that this all ties together.
So money is not what I thought it was before coming here.
Remedy is the past. The Present is all that matters.
So my melon is melting. .
Pete Daoust
I SEND EVERYTHING by registered mail.....why this question Robert Cormier ? :/
Robert Cormier
I had assumed as much, but, now at days, I DO NOT ASSUME anything. :)
Robert Cormier
Thanks
Jeff Roggers
actual money equals time
Pete Daoust
You don't need to assume Robert Cormier, if you read here, you will find that EVERYTHING need to be sent registered mail, without return address on the envelop :D
August le Blanc
Hmmm "TIME is MONEY" heard that all my life...
Jeff Roggers
I am a vessel. my value is cargo. which is my time
August le Blanc
holy shit.... fuck ... simple...
Jeff Roggers
I am a fabricator of metals. I charge $100 per hour. 300 per hour under water.
Jeff Roggers
or the equivalent in Bitcoin
August le Blanc
Yes, I get the principle of contracting...
However,
I am only valuable to me at this time...
August le Blanc
Robert Cormiert the registered mail thing has been asked and answered at least twice int TT4L...
read for fuck sake.
Jeff Roggers
using the format above you can excess what would be the value on the legal title entity. the only intrinsic value of a lien is that it must be satisfied if an infringement violation in public occurs. Any party that is held in contempt of violating this. Has their bond seized by the corporation. That holds the lien
August le Blanc
What? it is some what unclear...
Pete Daoust
Anyway, MULES can make your life so fucking easier :P
Pete Daoust
:D
August le Blanc
Do tell...
Robert Cormier
Scott Duncan said that in our Proper Notice, we ONLY list our HOURLY rates. <--- This confuses me. Am I not entitled to charge for cuts or bruises I may receive if "cops" act like gangsters? Example= every millimeter of any cut my body receives by them costs $500,000.00. Each bruise less than 5cm = $500,000.00, Bruises between 5cm and 10cm = $1,000,000.00. etc.
August le Blanc
Just charge a flat rate per day or any portion thereof...
Chris Evan
I love MULES
Jeff Roggers
using whatever method of payment format you choose such as damages to the body of $5,000 for plus blah blah blah blah it's our contract people we get to make it
Jeff Roggers
everybody please listen up everything that we mail is certified registered return receipt requested. Does anybody know why?
August le Blanc
Snail mail Yes but no historical record... signature.
No I have not read that. The registered mail thing has been covered a few times it has been asked and answered...
This thread is about money and value not the fucking mail.
August le Blanc
And clubhouse rules are for the club for fuck sake... :-D
Jeff Roggers
back to the value of the lien
Chris Evan
Anyone ever done this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnlLFMd3iiQ
Jeff Roggers
please give me a minute I hate being interrupted
August le Blanc
Make a fucking Registered Mail thread... this thread is value, money and mules :-D
August le Blanc
Hellos....
August le Blanc
Facebook won't let me bring up any ones name highlighted with a link... to call them to a thread. About 4 days now.
Pete Daoust
Yes, indeed, you are extremely confused Robert Cormier :D
Chris Evan
Are you new? All these threads are missmashed!
August le Blanc
Shitstain=off topic post on thread... my facebook not working proper could be considered a shit stain...
the threads are mismashed sure... but I know when I post something on a thread...
Robert Cormier
So, cuts to my body can not have VALUE attached to them?
August le Blanc
you can also do up a rated sheet for bodily harm... its up to you it is yours... you determine the rates.
August le Blanc
CREATE something...
Robert Cormier
Scott Duncan instructed us : HOURLY RATES ONLY. :(
August le Blanc
Grant, some one you trust to hold it for you...
August le Blanc
Oh... I missed that.. I do day rate and portion thereof...
Robert Cormier
Don't you fucking read Jay Le B? For fuck sakes! :)
Chris Evan
Dude...we are the kings of shitstains
August le Blanc
Yes but with the mishmashedness of the threads , dodging cops and making a living ... I miss shit...
:-D
August le Blanc
Yes, the kings of shit... Chris Evan and CSIS loves you guys :-D
August le Blanc
Registered mail is one of those topics that shows up in multiple threads... we miss shit yes...
Can we go back to talking about establishing value, money and mules please.
Chris Evan
Mules is most important
August le Blanc
So...
August le Blanc
ah fuck this... I am going to read some articles that Scott wrote... I fucking hate missing shit. see y'all later.
Stuart Stone
I tend to think wrong & value the wrong things...but now I'm going to think outside the box & backwards about how corporations create 'book' value in the current system:
eg: a mortgage company/credit company:
Book value may be calculated by accounts outstanding + accounts received + cash reserves + other assets (plant & equipment).
Accounts outstanding can be calculated as the book value of the mortgages they hold a charge/lien over.
Using this logic, (in the current system) we can extrapolate our value to be the charges & liens & amounts outstanding that we hold against others.
Consequently, we can borrow against the book value, money of exchange as & when required.
So, to borrow from Scott Duncan, 'you have no value'...is it reasonable to add to this statement 'until you create liens/charges against others' ie: salvage property abandoned on the 'sea of commerce' and/or the property of those who have caused you harm?
In other words, we add value by seizing value that already exists:
ie: pirates & privateers seize value as opposed to creating our own?
Is this why we identify Captain Jack Sparrow, or have I just managed to create a massive shitstain here?
If so, that would be a mistake, so please forgive me :D
Pete Daoust
That is beautiful Stuart Stone :)
August le Blanc
I am going in large circles :-p
Pete Daoust
As long as there is no shit in that circle :D
August le Blanc
no shit in circle.
Catch 22...
still processing....
Maddog Wonfeyeve
I prefer to trade the debt notes of legal tender in for gold and silver bullion; but that is just me... Something so satisfying about trading debt for precious metal(I actually prefer silver for the medicinal properties). Debt for tangible value... what a concept... ;)
Pete Daoust
Do you eat silver Matthew Barton Stoddard ? :/
Maddog Wonfeyeve
Of course... Wow, are you a French caveman Pete Daoust?
Pete Daoust
No, a French dumbass TOKEN....
Pete Daoust
I never saw no one eat silver in these past 47 years :/
Maddog Wonfeyeve
Lol ok... Do you know how the upper class survived the Black Plague in Europe? Google colloidal silver son...
Pete Daoust
Ha....I knew it was bullshit.....what do I fucking care about the black plague, and any upper fucking class......why do you always bring this kind of stupid back up when you write something stupid in here.....fuck off with that shit....bye !
Maddog Wonfeyeve
Lol; you claim to be studying law; but you have not studied the very people that invented the deception? They run eugenics too Pete Daoust; and they hate french people a lot. That is why their Royal Bloodline takes so much shit and abuse from the rest. If you want to survive when these shitbags try to pull the plug on us; you best learn what they do to survive... Like understanding real medicine; not the chemical based one they provided to you after the WWII need to use their chemicals somewhere to keep making money. Sorry buds, but much of what you post is in fact closer to "stupid" than anything I post. One track minds are for the ignorant and controllable... Broaden your fucking horizons; or be an ignorant retard... your choice, not mine... ;)
Pete Daoust
you claim to be studying law: Where did you saw me saying this ? :/
Pete Daoust
You've said:
I prefer to trade the debt notes of legal tender in for gold and silver bullion; but that is just me... Something so satisfying about trading debt for precious metal(I actually prefer silver for the medicinal properties). Debt for tangible value... what a concept...
I said: DO YOU EAT SILVER
And then you answered me like EVERYONE should know that EVERYONE is eating silver.....
And backed this up with some stories that I was not even alive when it happened...
Pete Daoust
And then followed up with : Sorry buds, but much of what you post is in fact closer to "stupid" than anything I post
:/ :/ :/ ?????
Maddog Wonfeyeve
are you only aware of what has taken place in the world here during the time in which you were alive?
Maddog Wonfeyeve
Not everyone is eating silver Pete Daoust; just people who know how it works...
Pete Daoust
You see, you will NOT admit that what you've said was stupid in the first place, but you will continu to try to make me look stupid by asking a general question like:
are you only aware of what has taken place in the world here during the time in which you were alive?
Now, think about that question you've just asked, and ask your self if this is in fact, one heck of a stupid question :/
Maddog Wonfeyeve
But you have to actually "know" about stuff that happened "before you were even alive"... kinda like the legal system "happened" before you were alive... ;)
Maddog Wonfeyeve
It wasn't a general question, you fucking said it!
Maddog Wonfeyeve
And backed this up with some stories that I was not even alive when it happened...
Maddog Wonfeyeve
sounds like you are admitting to it to me...
Pete Daoust
And you keep putting these stupid ;) like if everything you say is pure WISDOM from your ass
Maddog Wonfeyeve
just asked to be sure
Pete Daoust
You remind me freezebee....and now I am fed up...bye !!!!
Maddog Wonfeyeve
really Pete Daoust; after all the :( from your posts... wow...
Pete Daoust
Now....you will feel a tingly nothing, and you will no longer see my stupid posts
Pete Daoust
see you in jail and/or in hell
Pete Daoust
:D....fresh air.... ;d
Maddog Wonfeyeve
cool and I don't do jail jail, just this current jail... and since you obviously haven't noticed Pete Daoust; we are already in HELL... hahaha
Chris Evan
I love watching a good ole fashioned French Canadian temper tantrum!
Pete Daoust
You've haven't seen nothing :D ....this was NOT a tantrum at all Chris Evan
Pete Daoust
I just can't take that shit no more Chris Evan, I can't smell that freetard on the land mentality, it's not for me....
Pete Daoust
And it's not for this group....there is plenty of group for them.......and jail :D
Sosena K
http://youtu.be/jqvKjsIxT_8
You can try watching that
Sosena K
its simple and accurate.. and if you don't get it, just watch it til you do.. :P
Scott Duncan
This is an OFFICIAL Scott Duncan CumBunny, so you can trust what she says! :D
Sosena K
I didn't know there are fake wannabe's out there..
Scott Duncan
There are. It diminishes the beauty and status of Scott Duncan CumBunny. It really does.
Sosena K
Gail Marie, stop liking these posts and just watch the damn video.. pay attention.. it is 45mins long,. I doubt you finished already...
Gail Marie
I'm on it :P
Sosena K
*sigh* and she replies... FOCUS! You ask a question, there's your answer.. if you REALLY wanna learn.. then pay attention..
BTW, I AM NOT A CUMBUNNY Scott Duncan!!!
Scott Duncan
LOVEYOOLONGTIME!
Sosena K
Never long enough :)
Scott Duncan
9 inches is MORE than enough.
Sosena K
I am referring to your :LOVE... not your 9inches Mr!
It has been established: no value, got it.
Value comes from what we spend money on.
We only need money when we spend it.
Money is created out the banks by a signature on a contract.
The Govt is a Trust
The Govt borrows from the bank.
In Canada, The Bank of Canada.
The Crown and its many forms is/are the administrator, We are the Beneficiary,
We are cargo inland and Trustee and holder of the Bill of Lading.
The legal person, once all accounts and NAME associated with, are liened, the govt and bank no longer have access to create more debt...
No eleventy billion dollars ...
more liKe 3
So Creating Value by leining the name just adds to Debt and further fucks the situation. All the lien does is Cut The Govt Trust off from the revenue stream of the person.
Commerce is only on land.
So crypto currency, on the Ocean Blue, sounds pretty good considering the options around.
Close?
Robert Cormier
Jay Le B - You might find this worthy of note regarding your statement that commerce is only on land: Oceans Act (S.C. 1996, c. 31) Exclusive Economic Zone
Marginal note:Exclusive economic zone of Canada
13. (1) The exclusive economic zone of Canada consists of an area of the sea beyond and adjacent to the territorial sea of Canada that has as its inner limit the outer limit of the territorial sea of Canada and as its outer limit
August le Blanc
My presumption from my comprehension is that the exchange/conversion happened at withdrawal, must be from the out of my ass department..
Deposit one form and withdraw another...
A withdrawal accounted for by receipts and transaction records... backed up by a B O E.. line item in books of corp- the exchange... How is that wrong?
Chris Evan
Money of Account buys more money of Account. So, if I liened the Account, i would be the Creditor!
August le Blanc
aha
August le Blanc
Value =
Services/Goods in Demand + Reliability of Promise.
Subject to the transaction at hand. ( spending it )
Chris Evan
Again I am thinking....I signed some document that CREATED the Account that holds this Money of Account. There is no other signature on the document. I should be able to just lien this with out an Administrative Process because MY signature and no other is evidence that I am the only one with standing in the matter. Or am I thinking through this wrong?
Jeff Roggers
The hundred million dollar Value Placed upon the lien of the legal title entity Is arbitrary.
Chris Evan
Scott, I am hearing a lot about this 1099OID form. It is an Original Issuer form that is a statement of who created the money and is filed with the IRS. If I write a check or sign a Promissory Note and never get the cancelled check back, I can issue this form to say I am the creator of X amount of securities (credit). It is my understanding that these are filed once a year as a cumulative total. Is this relevant?
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