consolidate all what you just posted thusly. I have a person I am NOT a person

What evidence do you have to suggest you have a person?

Good question, Roger... I'd like to find that out myself, so I can better prepare. :-)

You possess a person, you do not own a person, it is your part to play in the game of TRUST the Gubbinit has set up... starting with the Birth Certificate and the creating debt from your person based on your productivity of a lifetime.... proof, SIN number...

and other such things designed for you to take it up the hoop by accepting surety.

by being part of the Gubbinit Trust as trustee of the Birth Certificate and employee number...

Roger you know that thing they call a birth certificate with all CAPS name on it similar to ours? that's the person

Ask those who say you are that "person" to provide evidence to prove that you are that "person" they say you are - then ask them who "you" is.......?????

I don't have to the notice of mistake clarifies this subject

Or something Like I am me who the fuck are you..

I sent my Notice of mistake to the Deputy Registrar of the Courts here in NZ and got told they don't and won't accept it and they'll issue a warrant to arrest me if I don't pay their fines.....then told them they can't arrest anyone who doesn't exist in reality only exists in govt computers and on govt forms... so go ahead issue the warrant then I'll lay charges of kidnapping and if any weapons involved it will be aggravated kidnapping...then he said well you better sort out some form of payment .....I laughed and hung up....lol...morons

I think sending it as an appendix to an affidavit is key because an affidavit they must accept...I'm thinking the NOM standing alone is likely seen by the the same as if you sending them your birthday wish list? they can't/won't compute until they have to

An affidavit is recognized , documents attached to said affidavit as exhibits are also recognized.

It's like speaking french to someone who only understands english....the NOM attached to the affidavit is like having a built in translator

I sent it to them with the letter they tried to get me to acknowledge joinder to the all caps identity....

Scott Duncan if you send in a notice of mistake alone, but have it notarized, does that help them understand?

how did they get you to acknowledge jonder with all CAPS

Gail come on now

they addressed the letter in upper lower case....and when I opened it they had addressed me in same then changed the name to all caps part way thru when they quoted legal file numbers....

thats when I returned the letter with the NOM

that was just another offer to contract.

K....sent it certified mail but not in affidavit form - is it too late to do that now .....???? In NZ our "birth certs" are written in Upeer,lower case...not in all caps

oops typo error

it don't matter if its in all caps or not it's on the birth certificate they created it they own it so surety is attached to the man the notice of mistake removes the Joinder of the surety people come on

I think that is joinder... not john deere.... and surety... sure D

tell that to my dragon

no.

... stood in front of judge in court relating to IRD(TAX DEPT) trying to get me ... got the judge to acknowledge the all caps name on the summons wasn't my name so I walked out of the courtroom after he failed to convict me

you still don't own the BC no matter how they spell it. they gave you an offer to not accept it, counter offer them with the affidavit and NOM?

In order for any documents to recognized they have to be attached to the affidavit as exhibits, resend if you have to in proper format. If no room on affidavit you say on affidavit see appendix A or whatever..

An affidavit is the key to them seeing things...

thankyou everyone - much much appreciate the advice and direction

They should have affidavit forms on line thru the queens' printer..they are simple to use...

when I write my own app for a dragon I'm going to include a window that lets me see the whole message before putting it out there