The Tender For Law

Volume 3

Sep 23, 2013 3:28 AM

Steve Lemieux

Forgive me, as I STEP ONTO MY SOAP BOX, I�ve had several (strong) drinks�

A friend of mine forwarded this link to me. It APPEARS to me that Mario Antonacci, AKA, Andreas Pirelli, of the Calgary Embassy is a complete PIECE of SHIT.

You would think that a greater understanding of public & private jurisdictions, contracts and trusts would instil compassion & responsibility in so called "FREEMEN" but obviously, SOME just don't get it.

Behavior like this only HURTS our quest to be intelligently heard. I am NOT a fucking �FREEMAN ON THE LAND� and I certainly am NOT a fucking �SOVEREIGN�. I am nothing but a BENEFICIARY. My inability to �PAY� debt PRECLUDES me from being a responsible trustee so what else can I be, but a beneficiary? That fucking justice on the bench can be trustee; who gives a fuck about the decedent�s public account anyway? Certainly not I.

Problem is, idiots like Andreas Pirelli fuck shit up for the rest of us. Those kinds of fucking RETARDS have made it very difficult to interact with the public in a nice and calm manner. Almost every time we step into a face to face with public officials, whether on the street or in court � we are considered FREEMEN/Terrorists. That makes it VERY tough to have an intelligent conversation and/or be taken seriously.

If you�re still chasing DOLLAR BILLS and/or recklessly using liens for billion of dollars against your fellow men/women, you just don�t GET it; you�re a fucking TOOL and have a lot left to learn.

If you�re still making statements like � I�m a FREEMAN on the LAND! You just don�t get it and have a lot left to learn. STOP making statements/arguing and start ASKING questions.

Yes, there is a time and place for liens - once agreement of the parties has been established. If you file and can�t hold your shit, sucks to be you. You deserve what you get.

With knowledge comes responsibility. If you use your knowledge to harm, you are no better than those you hurt. As far as I�m concerned, sorry, I just don�t have time for you.

As I STEP OFF MY SOAP BOX, I say, learn your trust structures people. This whole pursuit for freedom thing is not going to get any easier any time soon. Public perception is that we�re all cut from the same FREEMAN cloth�

If you give a shit and/or have a few minutes to burn, you can read all about that fucking Andreas monkey here.... Peace�

Alberta woman fights to reclaim home from 'Freemen' renter who declared it an embassy

edmontonjournal.com

SYLVAN LAKE, Alta. - An Alberta pensioner says she feels like a prisoner after her rental property was claimed as an "embassy" by a man she says identified himself as a Freemen-on-the-Land, a growing movement of so-called sovereign citizens that is raising concerns with authorities both north and so...

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Dean Clifford

This is also bullshit. This story should be renamed "Landlord has trouble evicting bad tenant.", but of course that does not have the right spin on it. As a former landlord of several properties, I can tell you RIGHT now that tenants are fucking impossible to get out. They go crying to residential tenancies, and next thing the same fucking assholes trying to steal our lives, Her Majesty acting through agents and offices, shows up telling you that you cannot evict people just because they refuse to pay you rent for 6 FUCKING MONTHS, and they are protected and you have to go to court and get a FUCKING COURT ORDER to have them removed....and if they are on welfare, they will not grant you a court order.

Fuck these lying pricks. If this was a welfare shit heel who refused to work, the story would be "EVIL LANDLADY tries to evict POOR, IMPOVERISHED man who is down on his luck."

THIS is why I want to smash this system.

David Vilaca

I hear there's a freetard seminar coming to Toronto, the freetard s can't even get the poster right, Hamilton is not Toronto. Enjoy your complimentary pen and paper kids. Dean may have the right intent, to bad the format is for dummies style. Where's the value Dean, at least with John Spirit you get to take value home by truly understanding his position and how to apply it.

Dean Clifford

Feel free to not come, David Smile. Also, feel free to fuck off and keep your opinions to yourself if you don't like something. You are who again? How about I come and shit on your cornflakes, huh? You don't like my attempts to help the world, fill out a complaint form.

Odd, I continue to get emails daily from people that have applied what I taught and won....as I do. Sorry you are not intelligent enough to proceed without a template. Sucks to be you.

David Vilaca

Mind you, Johns method may or may not provide relief, Johns method depends on placing the onus on the court and it only works under certain conditions. Johns method will never provide an equitable remedy for the fraud and criminal breach f the trust.

David Vilaca

You mad bro, that's what happens when gurus get exposed to the truth, they loose their countenance and want to shit in your breakfast food. Will there be free pens and and paper or not? Will it be in Toronto or Hamilton, will the freetards be in fancy dress, tinfoil hats and fucks the puppy motivation. Remember the article is about freetards not men and women exercising the right not to contract. Your not much help to the world when you create clowns. When I saw Andrew at your seminar I knew it was a scam for money. Put the seminar on at your own expense and I will be more likely to believe you want to help the world and not take from it

Chris Evan

Dean, 3 of us from the States are planning on coming. We are willing to spend the money for the tix, airfare, accommodations, etc to hear you speak. I wonder how much a boat ride across the lake costs..Scott? So regardless what others think, we KNOW you have VALUE.

Jason Wettstein

we are making a documentary about becoming food independent its been 2 years in the making and 3 homes we have been chased off 2 properties by the city this year we held are ground and lost to the landowner.

we don't know what was said to the landowner but he had no problem evicting us because we owed him back rent

we will post some rough edits on a few select pages for critiques likely here ;)

David Vilaca

Dean Clifford is a very little person, angry w/zero spirit he don't much like my attitude nor my right to free speech, tell us again how you work so hard to protect my right to express my opinion. I guess only freetards and our criminal Government have the right to revoke others rights

Scott Duncan

Meanwhile here in REALITY:

In this forum you have the rights I CHOOSE to give you... and that shit's fluid at best.

You PRIMARY right is to HAVE A SHARP TINGLING SENSATION, FOLLOWED BY...

BANNED!

I am proud to serve as enforcer for YOUR RIGHTS! :D

Scott Duncan

Seriously... "Little People" are not TRUST RATIFIED.

...and if Dean Clifford or I present the appearance of people who think they are better than you...

...IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU!

That is all. Carry on! :D

Derek Moran

Yeah, DEAN- you havent helped me enough to understand just what exactly the Birth Certificate is, either!.....oh- wait a second, actually, i meant to say the complete opposite of what i just said

What i just said wasnt WARRANTed Dean... ;)

Beverly Berta Braakschmack

This is John Spirits latest "Gathering" info September 28th and 29th - 400$ donation Canada Inns Destination Center Polo Park 1405 St Matthews Avenue Winnipeg MB R3G oK5 204-775-8791

RSVP below 50$

Howard Posehn

I think it's just the pressure that is being put on the Courts here by people who are standing as a MAN to them. I've never heard of these names that this guy uses, (but then again, who am I?)but I have a good memory to faces, and this woman who claims victim, looks familiar. (And is batshit crazy, which is why I'm leaning to a psychopath I interacted with at the Crown prosecutors office, or the psychopath who claimed to be a justice of the peace at the Court house.) There have been 2 or 3 phony bomb scares here in the last year. What ever happened to the truck that was to have been driven into the Court house? I now wish that I would have gone down there to see if it did happen. Jason claimed it didn't happen and I had no reason to dispute his claim. I'll use this as a gauge to see how many fools are taking the bait and talking shit now. Time to speak loud and firm to those fish.

Gail Marie

An embassy is just a building?

embassy. (1534) 1. The building in which a diplomatic body is located; esp., the residence of the ambassador. 2. A body of diplomatic representatives headed by an ambassador; a diplomatic mission on the ambassadorial level. 3. The mission, business, and function of an ambassador. Cf. LEGATION. [

ambassador. 1. A diplomatic officer of the highest rank, usu. designated by a government as its resident representative in a foreign state. - Ambassadors represent the sovereign as well as the nation and enjoy many privileges while abroad in their official capacity, including immunity. Ambassadors are distinguished from ministers and envoys, who represent only the state where they are from and not the sovereign. Ambassadors are also generally distinguished from certain legates who have only ecclesiastical authority. But the papal nuncio and some legates, such as the legate a latere, bear the rank of ambassador.

Gail Marie

Wouldn't you need a sovereign country to represent before you could build an embassy and benefit from immunity etc? which then means you would have to have some sort of agreement or treaty with the country where your embassy is situated?

Daslow Aizelasi

this article pretty much is on point they are leaving a few thing out though like how he has fucked over almost everyone he contacts this guy is my neighbour rebekkah is my LL who is a very sweet and kind last she is an emotional wreck. He also screwed over a mutual friend who helpedhim out lent him $ to purchace his vehicle at an auction and never paid it back this guy is a destructive force.I could go on and on

Pete Daoust

Guess who sent me this email, a year ago :D

I read you document it is well done , the way you express what you understand.

There is a problem with it, you need to inform them about all the articles of the international covenants and the domestic laws, that apply to your situation and the facts of the matter.

You are missing a few steps to go along with this whole process,

you need to obtain your registration of live birth this is very important it shows that you are a living human being without it, it is hard to get recognition.

were you born in Quebec?.

You also need to draw up a claim of right and have it affidavit.

then you send them a notice and demand calling on your articles of law.

ok,

I am willing to do this with you and help you learn all this. I can draw up all the documents you need and teach you were to obtain your registration of a live birth.

To make a claim of rights for you will take me two days of my time To correctly make a notice and demand will take me a day. You would have to send for your registration of live birth it takes 14 days and is Free of charge.

I can do this for you and meet you later this week if you are interested.

I would ask 1800$ donation for my time and energy to do all this, much cheaper then a lawyer..LOL..

Let me know if you are interested :D

Pete Daoust

Now, don,t get me wrong, I am not MAD at this guy, and I would spend $150 anytime to attempt one of Dean Clifford's seminar, so as soon as he is booked at the Bell Center, I'll be there ....I've spent more than that on Hockey games :D, I am not stupid, I know the cost of doing these things.....

But Scott Duncan has a little advantage from MY point of view :D

He is FREE and PRICELESS :D

And as a BONUS, he is telling the truth !!!!.... O.o

I am not the smartest guy around, but I KNOW how to count, well, my calculator knows :D

And the irony, MONEY is the fucking issue....it is the MONEY...!!! :D

But the FIRST time I felt that FEAR going away from me, it was Dean Clifford on my screen, I will NEVER forget that :D , because I was big time scared of these fuckers.....

My two cents :D Pierre

Steve Lemieux

As I said, he's a complete piece of shit. His background has been revealed to me by several people I trust. There's no honor there whatsoever. Anyways, he better watch his back, there are angry people out there who want their cash returned.

Far as gurus go, we get fucked up the ass enough in the "public", no need to start fucking each other up the ass in the private, especially for information. For a "guru" to charge 400 legal tenders a head to teach whatever is a fucking money/LABOR grab, nothing more.

From what I hear, Dean's seminars charge just enough to cover expenses, which is reasonable. I was actually bugging Beverly to check out the next one with me. I do not understand why someone would bash Dean and would ask - Well, what the FUCK are YOU doing to help out people??? No comment? Then shut your fucking mouth. Running your mouth on facebook ain't helping anyone.

Stuart Stone

Hmmmmm, I'm guessing Pete Daoust that it was the John of the Spiritual kind (as opposed to the John of the non Spiritual kind) that Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma wrote about above....

My only question being, what does a Spirit require $1800 or $400 donations for???

That's also one of my ongoing lingering questions about a Christian God...all knowing, all seeing, created the universe & everything in it, yet is so bad with money that He needs donations totalling into the millions worldwide, EVERY Sunday...

This God guy definitely needs to learn how to administrate his affairs properly ;-)

Mick Parker

the TFL is a unique experience, Scott gives his time & knowledge freely. The fact is nobody owes us anything, unfortunately many have a huge sense of entitlement. This is scotts page on scotts terms until you can row for yourself. Nobody is forcing anybody to attend any seminar or part with any money they dont want to, its free choice. Having spent time here & scott making himself available to our every question has some of us SPOILED :D cheers dude!!!

Howard Posehn

Stuart Stone: My only question being, what does a Spirit require $1800 or $400 donations for??? Purgatory. A purification must be done before you enter into la la land. Heard that there was a cover charge too!

Harold Austerman

My comments: DEAN CLIFFORDS RESPONSE!!!

ALSO, why has nobody questioned this woman's story as being authentic? There is, no doubt, MUCH information being left out. Nobody guts and renovates a house for no reason. And apparently it has been 2 years, and she JUST went by if he has not been paying rent the whole time? Also, if he claims that it is his house, why is he still offering to pay $775 a month in rent? This whole story stinks from top down period. I bet she doesn't want to pay for renovations that she asked for, so it's being taken out in half rent, and she's a greedy old woman living in her poor "Sylvan Lake" retirement property. I'm a contractor, I've seen the stories people make up when they try to get out of paying for work done.

File a civil claim then if he's damaged your house. I bet you won't, because you don't want the real facts coming out. Instead you prey on people's good nature and pull on their heart strings, then use a clearly biased media who cannot wait to attempt to discredit the law reform movement to push your agenda.

And:

This story should be renamed "Landlord has trouble evicting bad tenant.", but of course that does not have the right spin on it. As a former landlord of several properties, I can tell you RIGHT now that tenants are absolutely impossible to get out. They go crying to residential tenancies, and next thing the same people trying to steal our lives, Her Majesty acting through agents and offices, shows up telling you that you cannot evict people just because they refuse to pay you rent for 6 MONTHS, and they are protected and you have to go to court and get a COURT ORDER to have them removed....and if they are on welfare, they will not grant you a court order.

Lying pricks. If this was a welfare bum who refused to work, the story would be "EVIL LANDLADY tries to evict POOR, IMPOVERISHED man who is down on his luck." Provincial legislation makes evicting people next to IMPOSSIBLE. The laws that Freemen teach would have this bum out on the curb immediately. They are LYING to you, because what we are teaching is the truth. They want you hating us, and us hating you all instead of watching all the lies, crimes and thefts of their de facto regime. THIS IS DEAN CLIFFORDS RESPONSE TO THE STORY!!!!!

Mick Parker

very true Harold (Y) freeman is the buzzword in Canada, here in Ireland everybody who raises the slightest contempt for the state is labeled "dissident republican" as a way to immediately rubbish what they're saying.

Stuart Stone

Try prorogued...I think that's the term you're looking for:

www.thefreedictionary.com/prorogued tr.v. pro�rogued, pro�rogu�ing, pro�rogues. 1. To discontinue a session of (a parliament, for example). 2. To postpone; defer.

Stuart Stone

Ok, I may be having a blonde moment here: If parliament has been prorogued, what's it replaced with?

Is it where a corporate/de facto entity (eg: corporate government, agents and officers) then takes over with a chief executive in power or what is the impact/extent of such a decision?

Derek Moran

Pierre, as you read it, one page at a time (thats how you read it, btw), think about things in terms of the BC and as you as the Beneficiary with how he explains thing...you will see how things start clicking ;)

Derek Moran

Basically, what i think ive learned, is that when you look at the BC, you are looking at an agreement between HER MAJESTY and the Registrar General, in which the Registrar General has PROMISED, to keep HER MAJESTY's promise to us, that the 'RG' will eventually TRANSFER 'HM's' GIFT to us, upon a CONTINGENT EVENT...

Gail Marie

dissent (di-sent), n. (16c) 1. A disagreement with a majority opinion, esp. among judges. 2. See dissenting opinion under OPINION (I). 3. A Withholding of assent or approval. 4. The act ofa surviving spouse who, as statutorily authorized in many states, refuses a devise and elects instead a statutory share.

assent, n. (14c) Agreement, approval, or permission; esp., verbal or nonverbal conduct reasonably interpreted as willingness. See CONSENT. assent, vb. "The requirement of 'assent,' which is fundamental

Derek Moran

Derek Moran: WHOA..... have i just figured-out that my/the Birth/Stock Certificate is waiting for me to claim as soon as i show them the RECEIPT my mommy and daddy were given for it 2 weeks after i was born? (Scott clicked Like on this)

Scott Duncan: Derek Moran RE:"...as i show them the RECEIPT my mommy and daddy were given for it 2 weeks after i was born? " - It's even simpler than that. A sworn affirmation is all you need. Who's to challenge it. 3 witnesses and/or notarized, and that pretty much covers YOUR obligation.

Derek Moran: AFFIRMATION OF Derek Moran

I am Derek Moran, and 42 years ago you guys gave my parents a Revenue Receipt for DEREK MORAN, to wit, i now claim it for Derek Moran.

..simple that simple?

Pete Daoust: what rigths should I claim ????

Scott Duncan: The PERSON (DuuuH!)

Scott Duncan: The government is not a PERSON. You have a PERSON and YOU are responsible. You contracted with a TRUST, not a PERSON. The signature PROVES you UNDERSTAND.

There's ONLY ONE PERSON INVOLVED, YOURS!

THE PERSON (There IS only one in the transaction) is ALWAYS responsible.

GOVERNMENT is a TRUST.

Scott Duncan: BIRTH CERTIFICATE = BILL OF LADING

Glad I could help

Scott Duncan: Parents were the GRANTOR (one of the parties that created the bill of lading).

Listen up and pay attention.

YOU ARE THE CARRIER!

A Truck ACTING AS CARRIER is NOT "120,000 RonCo Turnip Twaddlers"!

IT IS, IN FACT, A CARRIER THAT HAS "120,000 RonCo Turnip Twaddlers"!

It's delivering it to YOU (The Beneficiary). It just hasn't arrived yet.

You don't know that YOU own the CARGO. If you OWN the cargo you are transporting you are no longer in commerce. You are transporting PROPERTY.

Derek Moran: OWN the cargo = TRANSPORTING, TRANSPORTING = no longer in commerce. . . . .CARRIERing cargo = engaged in commerce

Scott Duncan: The NAME is the CARGO, and the BIRTH CERTIFICATE is the BILL OF LADING. It's valueless on it's own. Hence the term "Sold a bill of goods".

Scott Duncan: You are letting the world know that the cargo is in fact YOURS. Nobody has the right to presume your cargo is for commerce now.

Scott Duncan: That is ALL a Lien is.

Cara Small Atherton: has the queen taken on the protector of the trusts and must make sure they answer?

Scott Duncan: No. the keeper is just the placeholder "person" for the trust.

Derek Moran

The operative-word in everything Scott wrote there is "OBLIGATION"...the RG did what he was supposed to do by sending the BC to our parents...now the monkey is on-OUR-back, the ball has been thrown-into-our-court so to say, the next move is on us:

Officers not bound to see to trust

32. No officer or person employed in the inscription, registration, transfer, management or redemption of any securities, or in the payment of any interest thereon, is bound to see to the execution of any trust, expressed or implied, to which such securities are subject, or is liable in any way to any person for anything so done by the officer or person so employed.

http://www.search.e-laws.gov.on.ca/en/isysquery/3ec9316f-d2b8-4924-b38c-abf81d92e39b/2/doc/?search=browseStatutes&context=#BK86

Mick Parker

i have a daughter your age & if she came home spouting any of that shit she would get it far worse, we dont want you growing up deluded causing more pain & suffering to the world. your hatred for christians & jews seems already fairly advanced, where did you learn that at the tender age of 16 :(

Mick Parker

bible /Quran/statute book, if you are gonna fall for shit because its written in a book & not because you worked things out based on observable & repeatable facts this forum will be of no use to you.... its the law! muslim, christian, jew & govt... all false law for the sake of manipulation! created to divide & delude you!

Mick Parker

your young age & future silence on these issues might be your Saviour here, belief has no place in law/life. we observe the facts only. none of the religions can substantiate themselves & so will turn to violence when they cant possibly prove how their imaginary friend is better than their neighbours.

Todd Keller

I didn't read all comments posted in this thread so sorry if I'm repeating here but my take on this story is....fake! This is a made up.story to smear. I bet this guy doesn't even exist. Anyone in the area care to.drop by and see if this story has any merit?

Howard Posehn

Ha! CBC is looking for a freeman to interview. I sent them a quick response. I was wondering if Anna-Maria Tremonti would like to take up my challenge. I will pay her, or anyone else, one thousand Canada dollars if they can get a certified true copy of the income tax act from the Queens printer. Maybe that should be the first thing that you try before you attempt to interview anyone who stands up for their RIGHTS! Or, better yet, contact Dean Clifford either on his facebook page, or at Dean Clifford.info. Also, I have one question for you or Anna-Maria. CBC showed a truck that had driven into the Calgary Court house about 2 months ago, yet, I can not find any evidence of this ever happening. Did this really happen, or is CBC promoting hatred towards anyone who stands for the truth? Thankyou for your time:

Howard Posehn

This radio show is, "The Current" on CBC and is to air tomorrow. (I do not know what time) I'll post the contact info for all who want to ask any questions of these people before the show, or want to participate: 1-866-306-4636 ext: 2824 or emailing nuruddin.qorane@cbc.ca

Jason Wettstein

i emailed them a brief story on the 2 years of harassment and downright stocking we suffered in trying to be free from the food industry. I am certainly not a free man I have not yet found a way to escape my debt slavery but I am working very hard to do so.

Its sad that people think Canadians are free and who the fuck owns a home if they don't pay tax then what they take your home so does that not mean you are a renter?

I have 2 years of video documenting harassment and the struggle to just grow and raise our own food. I will wait and see if they get back to me I doubt they will but should they be interested we will give them some footage that will make most Canadians head spin and there is nothing like a 7 year old girl crying to some big dumb ass RCMP why are you taking my rabbits and chickens!

Howard Posehn

I responded to the original post by the CBC producer as follows: Anna-Maria has wasted 30 minutes of my valuable time which I will never recover. No integrity to be found in listening to this advertisement for your local just us department. CBC, YOU DISGUST ME! Anyone who wants to hear some GOOD RESPECTABLE JOURNALISM, I invite you here: www.youtube.com/BreakingTheSet This woman has integrity!

Howard Posehn

I had to share this with Anna-Maria: Hey, Anna-Maria, It would appear that you are the one who has the closest association to this fool. A former colleague of yours perhaps? Is he just doing the job that he is being paid for? Any reason that you did not inform us that this fool is in the entertainment business? The same entertainment business you are part off. CBC really is disgusting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEf6U3_Ny8s

Pete Daoust

This happen RARELY....so I thought I might add it here....

David Smile

Notice of public apology. Dean Clifford I ask that you forgive me for the harsh words I expressed in this forum and TTFL forum. There are those who claim to be freemen that are in fact destroying the good work you do on our behalf. When I see these shit stains going against everything you and the others in the freeman movement have created it fills me with anger. That anger was directed at the wrong individuals and for that I am truly sorry. I humble myself before you and the other individuals whom I offended. I ask that you forgive my ignorant and outright asshat behaviour.

David Smile....

Howard Posehn

I had to respond as well: Well now, Anna-Maria, I could sense the pain that you were going through as the TRUTH was being presented. Couldn't get off the air fast enough. You gave the two paid for, "Useful Idiots", 30 minutes to spew all the hatred and lies that they could, and Dean Clifford just over 5 minutes. What can I say, CBC is totally DISGUSTING!

Adam Thomas

Well why don't a heap o ye tarded tards on the tardis go around & lien his tardcass out of this embassy shit & reverse the damage that this kunt has caused....my gut feel is he is a Statist kunt & provocateur. ..off with his head...chop chop....